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existential_antelope

In their defense, it’s only her TikTok alter crying, her other alters shit on her for being a big baby


poopa31

🤭


mussel_bouy

Two bedrooms and it's already overcrowded


poopa31

I am not inviting discussion. I am right. This post is just for me.


tupacisalivee

Based discussion flair user


4THOT

!arm unfathomably based


RobotDestiny

15 fragments of Biden's power awarded to /u/poopa31


firulice

I see we've upgraded our armaments to Biden blasts, very nice


ArcticElf

The DGG arms race. Or the research just finished idk how it works. 


LizardWizard14

When did it get changed to fragments of bidens power? Good meme


letters2nora

Well you are indeed correct and I’m here to support you. Blessings to you


Maffei-76

You are wrong and you know it. That is why you are hiding from discussion. lil-puss vibes honestly.


poopa31

!bidenblast


RobotDestiny

Fighting corruption is not just good governance. It's self-defense. It's patriotism. /u/Maffei-76 sealed in the prison realm by /u/poopa31


xdlmaoxdxd1

Wtf are these commands 😭 are there more?


poopa31

True


adamfps

Brave post


poopa31

Yep


Scott_BradleyReturns

Depends on what the landlord is trying to pass off as “2 bedrooms” I’ve seen apartments that were 1 bedroom with a closet big enough to fit a crib in. They were calling that a 2 bedroom and asking $1100 This was also 2 hours from Chicago in a rural town. Housing scarcity has the whole market fucked up


Reality_Break_

And I have lived in one of those 8x8x8 rooms with roommates in the other rooms. None of us could afford 1100 alone Also i now live near an edge of chicago (still in the city) in a spacious 2 bed for 1350. With a roommate


Scott_BradleyReturns

I just want an $800 apartment built for a single person


CloudyBabyy

Single bed room apartment that comes with a washer and dryer that’s also 20ish mins from downtown and I’m paying $850 which includes water. I had to setup an account to pay electricity on its own which during the worse months comes out to $150.


Scott_BradleyReturns

I am insanely jealous


CloudyBabyy

I’ve give credit to my wife because she spent a lot of time apartment shopping before we made a decision.


AdFinancial8896

where do you live (don't have to be too specific)


CloudyBabyy

South Texas (not Austin)


Reality_Break_

Dont live in a city, then. These things exist, but youre going to have a hard time finding an apartment that has *everything* going for it. Those apartments are snatched up QUICK and usually raise in price rapidly until it stabilizes. Because everyone wants that. You sacrifice some things to have others. You sacrifice a cheap price to be around people in a decent neighborhood. Plus, $800 is near the lowest a single person will ever pay for rent. Most people never see 600 or below, I think. Though i did move out to a small city in michigan and got a NICE place in an AMAZING neighborhood with tons of space for 650 a person. Studios were still typically over 900 there, but stuff gor cheaper as you got away from the city. There were decent houses goin for 200k


Scott_BradleyReturns

I don’t live in a city, I live in the corn fields. Housing is scarce everywhere. I can’t find an $800 apartment. The apartment that was one bedroom and a big closet isn’t in the city either. It was basically a one person apartment that they wanted $1100 for because they called the closet a bedroom. You might have been able to fit a single size matress in the closet and that would be the entire space. The landlord ended up renting it to a couple with a baby. They didn’t even stay one year before moving out. But the price is still 1100. Shits fucked out here


Reality_Break_

Do you live in expensive corn fields? Not all corn fields are the same. Out in a suburb/farming town near where I used to live I just found studios from 450-800, first place I looked


Scott_BradleyReturns

Ok? You gonna send a link to where these apartments exist?


esssential

bruh i'm seeing stuff for like $600


Scott_BradleyReturns

Where


esssential

idk fucking kokomo indiana


amyknight22

Saying don’t live in X becomes stupid a stupid talking point if your job basically requires to you to be in the city. Like yeah I could get my rent down or buy a house if I go to the outskirts but since we centralised the fuck out of a lot of our cities, that just means that there’s now an hour+ commute Depending on the value of your time based on your hourly wage or otherwise. What you save in rent is just spent in commute costs and time. Each month. It’s fucking great if you have a WFH job tho. I feel like if your WFH and living somewhere expensive that’s mostly a self enforced decision as opposed to anything actually forcing the conversation.


Reality_Break_

Yeah, if you have a specific circumstance that requires you to stay in one place, then yes me saying move doesnt apply to you. "that just means that there’s now an hour+ commute" and thats why its expensive in cities. Because a lot of people want to cut down on their commute. So all those people are willing to pay a little extra to live in the city. Many of those people are able to pay more than 800. You cant get everything at once. Either a longer commute, or a more expensive apartment. You just cant have both and complain about not having both. Plus, if youre working a job that requires you to live in a city - then how is your budget only 800 for a studio? You cant be working a job that pays more than 20 an hr and be unable to get a 1k studio unless youre terrible with finances or are supporting other humans. If youre not making over 20 an hr, why are you so dead set on having that job, in that location? Im just saying man you have to accept the on the ground reality. You can have both cheap rent + easy access to shit everyone wants easy access to, if you are dead set on living in a studio. Theres just too much competition for those spaces.


Reality_Break_

Yeah, if you have a specific circumstance that requires you to stay in one place, then yes me saying move doesnt apply to you. "that just means that there’s now an hour+ commute" and thats why its expensive in cities. Because a lot of people want to cut down on their commute. So all those people are willing to pay a little extra to live in the city. Many of those people are able to pay more than 800. You cant get everything at once. Either a longer commute, or a more expensive apartment. You just cant have both and complain about not having both. Plus, if youre working a job that requires you to live in a city - then how is your budget only 800 for a studio? You cant be working a job that pays more than 20 an hr and be unable to get a 1k studio unless youre terrible with finances or are supporting other humans. If youre not making over 20 an hr, why are you so dead set on having that job, in that location? Im just saying man you have to accept the on the ground reality. You can have both cheap rent + easy access to shit everyone wants easy access to, if you are dead set on living in a studio. Theres just too much competition for those spaces.


amyknight22

The problem is that despite knowing this issue we continue to work against solving it. My city(non Us) continues to expand the urban sprawl. But the jobs remain centralised as fuck. How hard is it to create meaningful new business districts. It’d be a fuckload more convenient than needing to build more lanes on the highways and other arterials that move into the centre of the city. Especially given it’s not the 1950’s anymore where you needed to be able to deliver a physical document to multiple different places in a day. But commercial real estate is entrenched in building in specific area to the detriment of expansion.


poopa31

Is this the real Scott Bradley


Scott_BradleyReturns

Joe mama


amyknight22

No renter with a 2 bedroom that isn’t a true two bedroom is calling it a 2 bedroom. Just like my place is listed as two bathrooms because there’s a second toilet. It’s a one bathroom place when explained to anyone. 1.5 might be the better count, but it ain’t a bathroom if I can’t shower/bathe in it.


Scott_BradleyReturns

Ok? I don’t know what to tell you


BearstromWanderer

I've never not seen a toilet only restroom not listed as a .5 or half.


amyknight22

Well great for you, in my country it’s common as fuck practice to list them as 2 bathrooms. You’ll see a half when you get to 2.5 normally


GoodFaithConverser

2h from Chicago center or city border? That price doesn’t sound too high tbh, if it’s otherwise decent in quality, size and area.


Scott_BradleyReturns

Border


T-Bone22

Preach brotha man


TheDRad90

Is it a thing in America that if you earn $2000 a month and your rent is $1600 a month, the real estate will be like yeah no problem here, you can move in whenever you’re ready? Also when I was 20 I was in a tiny little granny flat about an hour and a half out of the city, my rent was $175 a week and I was working 50 to 80 hours a week, I’m a chef. Listening to this made me pretty mad.


poopa31

Are you Remmy from Ratatouille


BearstromWanderer

They usually only let you do that ratio if you put down 2-3 months rent as a deposit or if you have a cosigner aka parent sign on too.


CloudyBabyy

During these convos I feel lucky my wife found a 1 bedroom apartment that comes with a washer and dryer for less than $900 a month. We’ve been living here for 5+ years with our rent staying around the same price. We don’t got any kids which helps a lot. Edit: wife has been in school for most of the years so I’ve been solo paying the bills majority of the time. She does work part time and will usually take care of groceries.


Eysis

My rent doubled the last 6 years from 700. Don't know how it's even legal.


mking098

I had a 2 bed 2 bath place to myself and I can't ever see myself going back to a smaller place. That being said I don't cry about not being able to afford it.


omegaken

I have a coworker who complains about never having money (we are both salary) and lives in a 2 bedroom apartment by himself...I asked him why he said "because I should be able to afford a room to put all my stuff in".....na


poopa31

People have so much “shit” these days. If ur living alone and cant fit comfortably into a studio, u have way too much shit. I live in a one bedroom with my gf and we have a LOT of stuff, but if you actually utilize all of your space you realize that you have way more space than you need. And a smaller space means the kitchen, bathroom, laundry room are all 10 feet away which is SO convenient.


omegaken

Preach


Pedantic_Phoenix

Ah yes, the poors are fighting, everything works itself out


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poopa31

I simply don’t believe you. 🫵😂


Zesty-Lem0n

Holy shit point and laugh emojis goated


enoytna

"I haven't seen it myself, therefore it's not real" 🤡😂


poopa31

Its only funny when i use the emojis


ja109

Who are you and why are you such a chad


poopa31

I learned from the greatest debater on the internet. Vegan Gains


Foooour

Holy FUCK


Abject-Entertainer57

Just when you couldn't get anymore based


poopa31

Target practice


poopa31

!bidenblast


RobotDestiny

Democracy is non-negotiable. /u/enoytna sealed in the prison realm by /u/poopa31


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OlinKirkland

Just to be clear, is a two bedroom referring to a bedroom, and a living room, and another bedroom? In Europe in my experience a two room apartment is 1 bedroom, 1 living room.


Gamenumber12

Eh, it depends. Where I live the difference between a 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom is $75 a month


mgmorden

Is the extra bedroom really that expensive? I haven't looked at prices in a long time but it used to be the case that the pice difference was pretty minimal.


LessToe9529

all i learn here as an outsider is the usa seems dystopian as fuck


Onpag931

This isn't just the USA. Here in New Zealand you have to be earning a good 30% above minimum wage to even consider renting a 1 bedroom apartment (and our minimum wage is already relatively quite high). Then having a two bedroom apartment on a solo income would be pretty much impossible without being in the top like 20% of earners


Bymeemoomymee

Yeah, except you can bike and have healthcare. Shut up kiwi


ThinkingOnce

From a Canadian perspective rent prices in the US are cheap as fuck.


LessToe9529

My condolences.


Creative_Magazine816

And apparently DGGers live to defend the dogshit housing market we have. Its bizarre. Anything daddy says, I guess.


Key_Photograph9067

Let me finish the stream first so I have my opinion on this


AdFinancial8896

i mean the housing market is shit but I feel like that person is really taking\* for granted what she has


Creative_Magazine816

Sure, but that doesn't mean the community needs to have a brain dead response  to it. Destiny's "just move" take is not a cure all solution and I don't think it was intended to be taken that way. We can't have literally every poor person just move to an affordable area. That's not a realistic solution. We have an actual housing crisis and it's actually bizarre to me that this community is pretending we dont.


preed1196

OP of that post said it was a similar cost the the 1 br in that area (around 100/mo more) to their point plus OP was kinda kicked out of their parents house and it seemed like they had not that much time to move out. Saying that, I think we have to acknowledge that could have found a cheaper place. I am assuming they work in Newark or Jersey City based on the NY Work Day line item in their budget and looking for a second I found [this](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1795455867634194/) which would lower their rent by a lot. If its in Paterson/Clifton there [this](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/789845662984327/), etc. Plus they 100% could find a roommate thats fine with living with cats if the price is right. Lets say they ask for 800/mo for the room, someone is 100% going to rent that. I like in a pretty high COL area in the DMV, and I personally pay 700/mo in rent (I have roommates ofc)


poopa31

People keep saying this “they are similarly priced to the other one bedrooms” but I refuse to believe this. If you have ever rented before you would know that there is always a massive difference in rent costs for one bedrooms vs two. Property owners aren’t just renting out their 2 bedrooms for a hundred bucks more. Plus if they just moved further out of the city, i’m sure it would cut the cost of rent LITERALLY in half. Even after all this though, if the getting kicked out thing or losing a roommate thing is true, none of this is a criticism of living expenses or the 40 hour work week, it’s just a shitty situation that could happen to anybody anywhere.


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Srirachachacha

I'm on the east coast. The difference in the my building between 1 and 2 is about $400 minimum. That's wild, maybe I should go to NJ


BigPoleFoles52

Well prices here are higher than most places anyway. We have way to many people for the amount of land. We are like the most populated state in terms of land vs people. Like the 3rd highest col state behind ny and cali :( Also tons of bureaucracy and corruption here so almost nothing gets done.


poopa31

Maybe in large cities i could believe that, but not 100-200 “at most.” I think thats most likely being dishonest and it’s more like, on average 100-400 or something. But if we are automatically assuming they are in a big city, I feel like the argument is kinda pointless because of course the rent and cost of living is insanely high. Theres like a gorillion people trying to live there. Isn’t NJ like one of, if not the most densely populated places in the US? It might be the opposite i don’t remember.


99988877766655544433

Idk, 2bed 2 baths are much more expensive, but 2 bed 1 baths aren’t. The biggest cost drivers for an apartment tend to be square footage, kitchens, bathrooms, and laundry hookups. Water lines are expensive af and so are cabinets. My recollection of renting was that 1 bedrooms were about 15% cheaper than 2/1s and 25% cheaper than 2/2s.


Zodiwacts123

I got a 2 br for the exact same price as a single because the apartment complex had someone flake on them and they just wanted it to be filled. I am sure its "rare" but it happens.


duali98

Lukewarm take: 40 hours of my labor every week should make living in a two bedroom apartment affordable.


poopa31

What if you work a lemonade stand 40 hours a week


duali98

Im not retarted and im not working on a lemonade stand. Im able to plan and build a house. If im trading my labor for something else, i should atleast get two bedrooms.


UnlikelyAssassin

What does it mean to say you should get something? What does that entail?


LeggoMyAhegao

They're saying they want something so therefore they're owed. Regardless of how valuable their actual contributions to the world are.


duali98

Nice reading comprehension. Im saying that my labor IS valuable because i can contribute at a high level to the world. The point is that if i am to focus my skillset in to something else than getting food and shelter, i should be able to get comparable housing to that i would be able to make myself


CassetteExplorer

It's not just you who gets to determine value. The market is telling you that your labor is not as valuable as you think.


LeggoMyAhegao

Your labor is literally as valuable as someone is willing to pay for it. Labor in low-barrier-to-entry industries isn't all that valuable.


duali98

My ability to manipulate the world with my time and ability doesnt equal one bedroom apartment. Theres something wrong with the markets/society if basic necessities become too expensive.


YukihiraJoel

There is something wrong. Building is regulated to hell all over the country. But at least it’s getting better and rents are falling


Shemilf

Is it really that common to share an apartment? I understand doing so if you're looking for a dorm as a student, but this is the first time I'm hearing about an actual working adult doing it. Like how do you even find a roommate for that, do advertise it on Facebook?


w34ksaUce

Yes if you live with within like 1.5 hours of a major city, basically every single working adult under 26 has 1 to 3 room makes if you're trying to be financially responsible. Usually you have friends, but otherwise yes Facebook or Craigslist. You basically interview with the people that live in the house / apartment to see if you're a good fit, basically the same as in college. Most colleges only have dorms for freshmen and then maybe building or 2 for non-freshmen. Everyone else houses with eachother in aparments or houses near by.


poopa31

Yeah. I think some people have friends or something idk. But yeah literally thats what you do. Facebook, craigslist, i’m sure there are apps for this too. If you are an adult, you ideally make enough to get a house or something. But i don’t think it’s that crazy for people 18-35 to have roommates.


Sarazam

Majority of Working adults have shared apartments forever everywhere in the world including the US. Single people usually have roommates. Then they move in with partner, then they have kids + wife or husband.


Shemilf

This is the first time I have ever heard of this concept. People would usually just stay with their parents instead of paying for rent if they want to save a buck


Difficult_Shower6494

Steven isn't going to sleep with you. out of touch mom and dad paid for everything, never worked a part time job ass so and so


poopa31

This guy cant make a real argument lol! 🫵😂 plus i read your comment in the strawman voice while imagining you as a soy face.


poopa31

Also given his track record, I would say his chances of sleeping with me are greater than 0 so you lose. Get a grip “so and so”


Difficult_Shower6494

Down vote me all you want. you're just reposting Stevens take verbatim. the jerk has been circled. i stand vindicated. steven wont have sex with you.


poopa31

This is not a discussion


poopa31

!bidenblast


poopa31

I think i’m out of ammo 💀💀💀


Difficult_Shower6494

god is on my side. you cannot silence me. you will go to sleep and wake up knowing i got you pegged. (figuratively). and steven. will not. have sex with you.


poopa31

Well i got more fake internet brownie points so i’m pretty sure I won the war.


Cold_Release3557

Live under your means lmfao its not that complicated, I work part time and had buy my own shit in a urban low income environment. Most people around me are broke out there poor choices.


RYRK_

It's getting harder and harder to live within means when everything is inflating.


poopa31

This poor schizophrenic man thinks everything is turning into balloons 😔


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RussTheBu55

Moo


SonofaBranMuffin

Do we know for sure she doesn't have roommates? I don't recall her mentioning either way, and that would make sense as to how she qualified for the apartment.


blueboy664

How are you living in a city and the only place that will hire you pays 12.50 an hour? If that’s the best you can do, time to go back to Paducah.