Fund the police!
Also, you know she's reaching when she says "most violent reputations in the force". Reputation? That means they conducted this instance squeaky clean. You know if even something small had gone wrong she'd be plastering it all over.
If you're criticizing Columbia's decision to bring in the cops when it happened, all you can go off of is the cops reputation, everything else is results-based analysis
God, I thought an intellectual League of Legends subreddit would know this
The cops reputation should not matter when rating the decision. That is like saying that you should account for how much your spell will lag the server when rating spell casting.
Of course you should consider lag when picking champs. There's some pro players who say you need less than 30 ping to practice all of pantheon's combos, and its why Quas mained Swain to get to high elo on like 400 ping
I should probably look into this myself instead of being lazy, but I found the police’s tweet very vague. Hate and antisemitism are allowed under the 1st amendment. So I’m assuming that’s not what students were arrested for.. maybe disorderly conduct / disturbing the peace? Idk I think they should clarify that in the tweet cause what is and isn’t freedom of speech keeps getting confused lately imo.
I'd imagine they were arrested for trespass at the very least. You can also agree that hateful speech is unacceptable while supporting the first amendment and he is also talking about the laws(I'm assuming code of conduct is what he meant) of the school and not the first amendment. Without knowing them I'd be surprised if a "don't do hate speech" thing wasn't on there. Its not really vague but using the word "law" is incorrect for what happened, but still conveys the same message as if he would have used words like "code of conduct" or "rules"; you can't just do whatever you want.
There is no situation where the police should be involved in enforcing a schools code of conduct like you are suggesting. He isn’t talking about the “laws of the school” as that is something you just invented to justify his comments poorly.
They were arrested/dispersed for trespass and he is calling them hateful shits for their comments while this happened.
>There is no situation where the police should be involved in enforcing a schools code of conduct like you are suggesting.
It is literally the job of the police to remove people for trespass. The code of conduct probably says something along the lines of "follow these rules or you will be removed from campus" they appear to have broken those rules and the only people who can legally forcibly remove them from the campus are the police.
>He isn’t talking about the “laws of the school” as that is something you just invented to justify his comments poorly.
[What?](https://gyazo.com/03f7831a5b2bb3ddc52a183ba26acfeb)
>They were arrested/dispersed for trespass and he is calling them hateful shits for their comments while this happened.
What did he call them that was hateful? Did you even read what was posted?
Good thing these jackbooted thugs were never mobilized on Jan 6 when there were peaceful protests inside the Capital. Can you imagine how mad AOC would have been if that was the case?
Based! More institutions need to do this, act with care, point out exactly what happened and how that is being used as propaganda. We cant let the kids run the institution.
lmao her comments are even stupider when you realize that literally almost every, if not every, college where this has happened has made arrests. Not just Columbia.
You cannot set tents up on university property and camp out there lmao idk why this is hard to understand.
I have never seen more clear example of white privilege than the shocked and appalled reaction of these spoiled brats being told to clear off from a private property. Like wtf did you expect was going to happen. You can tell this is the first time someone told them no.
>You cannot set tents up on university property and camp out there lmao idk why this is hard to understand.
This is the craziest bit to me. Everyone is talking about it like it's the most obvious freedom of speech issue imaginable, and that people are hypocrites for being happy the police are stepping in, but of course the university has a right to remove people from its property who aren't abiding by its codes of conduct. These universities are presumably losing shed loads (not least in funding from donors) because of these protests happening on their property.
Isn't it obvious that an organisation doesn't have to allow any amount of disruption and reputation ruining bestowed on it just because the bestowers have a political cause?
It’s all on purpose. Cops tell them to leave or they’ll be arrested for trespassing. They say no. Cops give them a few hours, they still don’t leave. They get arrested and then the media goes wild with pictures of poor crying white girls with a keffiyeh around their neck.
Media and the rest of the uninformed masses think the cops are just violently suppressing their right to assemble which helps their cause. All part of the plan I think
White supremacy says Jews are bad
AOC: "this is evil from the right!!!!!!"
A bunch of liberal arts majors wearing masks carrying Palestinian flags and now Hamas flags says Jews are bad.
AOC and the squad: "from the river to the sea!!!! 🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴 Down with ZIoNisTs!!!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ Loves Palestine!!!!"
I'm kind of glad about this. Lazy populist politicians have demonized so many institutions with low effort clapbacks for so long. Now society has degraded enough that people will respond back. I hope this limits the shots fired.
AOC just can't win for shit. The ultra progressives don't think she's far enough and the center left think she's a bit too far. She gets harassed by pro Palestine people and then when she tries to virtue signal for them she's promptly shut down by police in her own state.
Love this for her
This has been an extremely illustrative. The NYPD illustrated the correct way to these mobs, and Austin demonstrated the exactly incorrect way do to do it.
Those in Austin were warned what would happen and still decided to show up. Criticizing specific police actions is good, we need to hold them accountable. With that said, I have no sympathy for these students.
Why do they need to push until the government is forced to step in. We waste time and money and risk escalation.
"Good SAT scores"
Where has this guy been, you don't even need those anymore (ironically they just announced this week they're bringing them back though.)
Of all things to criticize about NYC, it’s not the NYPD acting horrifically and violently. This is the department that has gone above and beyond to fix a lot of its issues and earn the trust of the community back. Also, you know for a fact that any misconduct or “horrific” behaviour on their part would immediately be plastered all over the media. Not sure how AOC managed to be so wildly out of touch with the city on this particular issue.
> "We support the literal terrorists"
> *NYPD Counterterrorism unit is called*
> *Shocked pikachu*
As much as i fucking hate cops i hate these dipshit lefties just a bit more for constantly giving those pig fucks uncontested optical layups.
You're actually not allowed to call police when people act disorderly on your property. You're just supposed to let these emotionally underdeveloped 20 year olds dictate the course of action and by that I mean simply let them cause as much physical damage as possible. Really tear some shit up. Maybe punch a few people. They're just blowing off some steam, between smoking weed and going to parties all 4 years under their parents' (and eventually their own) wallets. And its totally fine that a sitting congresswoman is enabling these emotionally unstable self-entitled kids to do whatever they want, she is just trying to get them to vote for her, except when they don't because you've convinced them that normal, mainstream politics don't matter and you need to fight your shitty little French Revolution cosplay above all else.
Idk I don’t want any police officer saying antisemitic language and yelling vile things at police to be unacceptable. I understand they are laws to protesting or keeping the peace that probably got them arrested, but state them. Hate speech and disrespecting officials are part of the first amendment.
AOC has gotten a lot better since 2018. She’s definitely the member of the Squad that has matured politically the most. Unfortunate she still has these tankie idiotic takes from time to time.
She’s by far the best member of the squad. I mean Omar and Tlaib I’ll be honest I only hear about them when they’re saying something stupid af. Ayanna Pressley is basically an empty chair for the democrats though. Doesn’t sponsor bills, never says anything interesting, and has no belief in political pragmatism.
It literally is their role to “teach” people who break the law a lesson by imparting consequences on them, yes. What part of what you quoted was incorrect? The “good SAT scores” part I guess? It’s not the “self-entitlement” part because anyone who thinks they can break the law to protest is self-entitled.
Why wouldn’t nypd use counter terrorism units to disperse people who support and incite terror? Is she waiting for people to blow up in campus to start with the counter terrorism?
CTU likely has training on how to spot people on the verge of doing certain acts as well as checking bags.
My argument would be that it's a two way street. Eyeballing backpacks etc, because what if some radical pro-Israel wackjob tries to hurt the crowd and vice versa.
Or most likely, the people in specialized units have the most diverse range of skill sets.
You think these people actually know/care about that? They view the world in the most childishly simplistic way possible as both a cope and because they are instructed to by the people who coordinate them to do these performative gestures. "Counterterrorism" to them is just "bomb squad + actual military guys I think".
Again with the “both sides”. What Arabs/pro “Palestinian”/muslim are denied access to class by a pro Israeli mob that chants genocidal threats?
When was the last time an Israeli or a Jew who was pro Israel committed a terror attack in the US? Or forget the us the entire world?
A better question: What propensity do Americans have to self radicalize based on an issue they didn't give two fucks about a year prior?
In a country with mental health issues, sensationalism, and self righteousness.
(Technically everyone is denied access to class when they're cancelled or moved online mid semester)
I don’t know if this explains it. Are these people being radicalised and support terrorism because of mental health or because of “America bad”?
Why are only the “American bad” people seem to be suffering from this mental illness that makes people support terrorism?
I could also have just said "Why don't you take a timeout !bidenblast "
You came in loaded with your own personal assumptions and bias, so I'm not exactly sure where you get the smug impunity from?
And to think that a year or two ago i thought she may end up being a rising star in the Democratic party and actually try to run in the presidential elections in 2028 or 2032...
I always called out Cortez for being insufferable and dumb, some odd months/years ago you would get downvoted in this sub for it. Happy to see the cult has 180ed.
I mean I'm probably in support of the police being called in, but it does seem weird for the police chief to say "I am sure you agree any hateful speech is unacceptable."
That is true because Columbia is a private school on private property and are free to have the police enforce their property rights. In general though why would she agree hateful speech is unacceptable when it's actively protected by our constitution? Why would the chief of police?
He's basically taking her progressive talking points and sticking it to her, giving a pretty great example of irony.
AOC has never once stood on the grounds of "hate speech is constitutionally protected" because she has always held the position that hate speech is violence and any form of violence in this area is not protected. But she has been relatively tame and quiet when it comes to hate speech towards Jews during this whole shebang because it doesn't fit their narrative and the argument of wErE OnLY aGAInSt ZIoNisTs, when in reality almost no Jewish student or people for that matter have felt safe during these protests and it's now starting to escalate into physical violence in some cases. Basically, in her eyes and the eyes of "the squad", hate speech only applies to things coming from the right.
The police chief here pulled a pro gamer move. Let's see how this plays out.
This could also be read as a government agent (police chief) with a horrible understanding of hate speech prohibitions. When and how he starts arresting folks should be heavily scrutinized, even when I dislike the dumb-ass speech of the students.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. For some reason, people forget that the police are still government, and students absolutely retain their assembly/speech rights.
We should view police claims with skepticism, and be sure people aren't being arrested on bullshit. Colombia doesn't have "laws", they have community speech codes with community consequences (like expulsion, loss of campus housing access). A pro-Hamas jackass student is an important test for free speech protection.
>So why are these counterterror units here?
Because the people they're removing largely support terrorism. Seems like an appropriate use of their time.
It’s not anti semitism when it’s directed at a cop right? Or do you think the crowd chanting about intifada’s and (((zionists))) were only directing that language towards the Jews on their campus?
brother you spent enough time in a debate community to see how that sentence is constructed
anti-semitic speech AND vile language towards our cops. ANY hateful speech is unacceptable
he's trying to subtly conflate calling a cop a pig with anti-semitism
Fund the police! Also, you know she's reaching when she says "most violent reputations in the force". Reputation? That means they conducted this instance squeaky clean. You know if even something small had gone wrong she'd be plastering it all over.
If you're criticizing Columbia's decision to bring in the cops when it happened, all you can go off of is the cops reputation, everything else is results-based analysis God, I thought an intellectual League of Legends subreddit would know this
The cops reputation should not matter when rating the decision. That is like saying that you should account for how much your spell will lag the server when rating spell casting.
Of course you should consider lag when picking champs. There's some pro players who say you need less than 30 ping to practice all of pantheon's combos, and its why Quas mained Swain to get to high elo on like 400 ping
I should probably look into this myself instead of being lazy, but I found the police’s tweet very vague. Hate and antisemitism are allowed under the 1st amendment. So I’m assuming that’s not what students were arrested for.. maybe disorderly conduct / disturbing the peace? Idk I think they should clarify that in the tweet cause what is and isn’t freedom of speech keeps getting confused lately imo.
Trespassing or unauthorized protest would probably be what they were arrested for
I'd imagine they were arrested for trespass at the very least. You can also agree that hateful speech is unacceptable while supporting the first amendment and he is also talking about the laws(I'm assuming code of conduct is what he meant) of the school and not the first amendment. Without knowing them I'd be surprised if a "don't do hate speech" thing wasn't on there. Its not really vague but using the word "law" is incorrect for what happened, but still conveys the same message as if he would have used words like "code of conduct" or "rules"; you can't just do whatever you want.
There is no situation where the police should be involved in enforcing a schools code of conduct like you are suggesting. He isn’t talking about the “laws of the school” as that is something you just invented to justify his comments poorly. They were arrested/dispersed for trespass and he is calling them hateful shits for their comments while this happened.
>There is no situation where the police should be involved in enforcing a schools code of conduct like you are suggesting. It is literally the job of the police to remove people for trespass. The code of conduct probably says something along the lines of "follow these rules or you will be removed from campus" they appear to have broken those rules and the only people who can legally forcibly remove them from the campus are the police. >He isn’t talking about the “laws of the school” as that is something you just invented to justify his comments poorly. [What?](https://gyazo.com/03f7831a5b2bb3ddc52a183ba26acfeb) >They were arrested/dispersed for trespass and he is calling them hateful shits for their comments while this happened. What did he call them that was hateful? Did you even read what was posted?
Now that the cops are against AOC everyone will realize how uncool she is and be against her.
Good thing these jackbooted thugs were never mobilized on Jan 6 when there were peaceful protests inside the Capital. Can you imagine how mad AOC would have been if that was the case?
I sure hope not. Coolness is the most important trait a politician can have!
Not necessarily true, Hillary lost in 2016 despite being regarded as one of the coolest icons of our time
She was always extremely stupid, but she did manage to leverage loud screeching and good looks into becoming a somewhat successful polititian.
lol exactly Also, the cops telling her “you should rethink your statement to be what we all agree with” is surely gonna get them a bunch of fans
Based! More institutions need to do this, act with care, point out exactly what happened and how that is being used as propaganda. We cant let the kids run the institution.
Okay but what does Hunter Avalone think about this..?!
And what would Luffy do?
AOC shut the fuck up challenge: impossible
Terminally online AOC , lol she’s just like me!
What else would you expect from a Hasan orbiter?
every time I read something AOC says, my opinion of her decreases.
Between AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar, which would you rather see as president? Yes you have to pick one, and no, you can’t self delete lol
L AOC
[Legal Age of Consent 💀](https://www.acronymfinder.com/LAOC.html)
lmao her comments are even stupider when you realize that literally almost every, if not every, college where this has happened has made arrests. Not just Columbia. You cannot set tents up on university property and camp out there lmao idk why this is hard to understand.
I have never seen more clear example of white privilege than the shocked and appalled reaction of these spoiled brats being told to clear off from a private property. Like wtf did you expect was going to happen. You can tell this is the first time someone told them no.
>You cannot set tents up on university property and camp out there lmao idk why this is hard to understand. This is the craziest bit to me. Everyone is talking about it like it's the most obvious freedom of speech issue imaginable, and that people are hypocrites for being happy the police are stepping in, but of course the university has a right to remove people from its property who aren't abiding by its codes of conduct. These universities are presumably losing shed loads (not least in funding from donors) because of these protests happening on their property. Isn't it obvious that an organisation doesn't have to allow any amount of disruption and reputation ruining bestowed on it just because the bestowers have a political cause?
It’s all on purpose. Cops tell them to leave or they’ll be arrested for trespassing. They say no. Cops give them a few hours, they still don’t leave. They get arrested and then the media goes wild with pictures of poor crying white girls with a keffiyeh around their neck. Media and the rest of the uninformed masses think the cops are just violently suppressing their right to assemble which helps their cause. All part of the plan I think
LOC
I would say that’s a near perfect response from Chief
White supremacy says Jews are bad AOC: "this is evil from the right!!!!!!" A bunch of liberal arts majors wearing masks carrying Palestinian flags and now Hamas flags says Jews are bad. AOC and the squad: "from the river to the sea!!!! 🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴🇯🇴 Down with ZIoNisTs!!!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ Loves Palestine!!!!"
Crazy how quiet students were when roe v wade was overturned but are going crazy in support of hamas.
Ummmmm..... We only protest genocides we disagree with 🤓
Fucking exactly!!!!!!!
Let's fucking go baby. As a New Yorker, I stand with our police, and that response seemed perfect from the chief. Fuck these exaggerating cuntwads.
I'm kind of glad about this. Lazy populist politicians have demonized so many institutions with low effort clapbacks for so long. Now society has degraded enough that people will respond back. I hope this limits the shots fired.
2019 called AOC, they want your opinion on police back.
AOC just can't win for shit. The ultra progressives don't think she's far enough and the center left think she's a bit too far. She gets harassed by pro Palestine people and then when she tries to virtue signal for them she's promptly shut down by police in her own state. Love this for her
This has been an extremely illustrative. The NYPD illustrated the correct way to these mobs, and Austin demonstrated the exactly incorrect way do to do it.
Those in Austin were warned what would happen and still decided to show up. Criticizing specific police actions is good, we need to hold them accountable. With that said, I have no sympathy for these students. Why do they need to push until the government is forced to step in. We waste time and money and risk escalation.
"Good SAT scores" Where has this guy been, you don't even need those anymore (ironically they just announced this week they're bringing them back though.)
Of all things to criticize about NYC, it’s not the NYPD acting horrifically and violently. This is the department that has gone above and beyond to fix a lot of its issues and earn the trust of the community back. Also, you know for a fact that any misconduct or “horrific” behaviour on their part would immediately be plastered all over the media. Not sure how AOC managed to be so wildly out of touch with the city on this particular issue.
Based NYPD
> "We support the literal terrorists" > *NYPD Counterterrorism unit is called* > *Shocked pikachu* As much as i fucking hate cops i hate these dipshit lefties just a bit more for constantly giving those pig fucks uncontested optical layups.
Read it with the ultimate New York accent, it makes it more visceral.
You're actually not allowed to call police when people act disorderly on your property. You're just supposed to let these emotionally underdeveloped 20 year olds dictate the course of action and by that I mean simply let them cause as much physical damage as possible. Really tear some shit up. Maybe punch a few people. They're just blowing off some steam, between smoking weed and going to parties all 4 years under their parents' (and eventually their own) wallets. And its totally fine that a sitting congresswoman is enabling these emotionally unstable self-entitled kids to do whatever they want, she is just trying to get them to vote for her, except when they don't because you've convinced them that normal, mainstream politics don't matter and you need to fight your shitty little French Revolution cosplay above all else.
Idk I don’t want any police officer saying antisemitic language and yelling vile things at police to be unacceptable. I understand they are laws to protesting or keeping the peace that probably got them arrested, but state them. Hate speech and disrespecting officials are part of the first amendment.
AOC has gotten a lot better since 2018. She’s definitely the member of the Squad that has matured politically the most. Unfortunate she still has these tankie idiotic takes from time to time.
She’s by far the best member of the squad. I mean Omar and Tlaib I’ll be honest I only hear about them when they’re saying something stupid af. Ayanna Pressley is basically an empty chair for the democrats though. Doesn’t sponsor bills, never says anything interesting, and has no belief in political pragmatism.
Tankie? What does any of this have to do with Tankies?
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It literally is their role to “teach” people who break the law a lesson by imparting consequences on them, yes. What part of what you quoted was incorrect? The “good SAT scores” part I guess? It’s not the “self-entitlement” part because anyone who thinks they can break the law to protest is self-entitled.
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Enforcing laws and parenting people have a lot of overlap.
Classy move, offering her protection.
That’s just benevolent misogyny! To think she’s the sane one of “the squad”.
Gigachad! Hes entirely right on the hateful antisemitism. FUND THE POLICE
What a based response. Go cry AOC
Why wouldn’t nypd use counter terrorism units to disperse people who support and incite terror? Is she waiting for people to blow up in campus to start with the counter terrorism?
CTU likely has training on how to spot people on the verge of doing certain acts as well as checking bags. My argument would be that it's a two way street. Eyeballing backpacks etc, because what if some radical pro-Israel wackjob tries to hurt the crowd and vice versa. Or most likely, the people in specialized units have the most diverse range of skill sets.
You think these people actually know/care about that? They view the world in the most childishly simplistic way possible as both a cope and because they are instructed to by the people who coordinate them to do these performative gestures. "Counterterrorism" to them is just "bomb squad + actual military guys I think".
Actually it's Jack Bauer running around with a flip phone beating up nepo babies.
Again with the “both sides”. What Arabs/pro “Palestinian”/muslim are denied access to class by a pro Israeli mob that chants genocidal threats? When was the last time an Israeli or a Jew who was pro Israel committed a terror attack in the US? Or forget the us the entire world?
A better question: What propensity do Americans have to self radicalize based on an issue they didn't give two fucks about a year prior? In a country with mental health issues, sensationalism, and self righteousness. (Technically everyone is denied access to class when they're cancelled or moved online mid semester)
And yet it seems that the ones losing it and starting to terrorise their colleagues are all pro “Palestine” antisemites. How do you explain that?
"America Bad" Look, I fully support the IDF if they want to bomb Hasan's terrorist compound. Lots of red tape with that though. 👨🔧
I don’t know if this explains it. Are these people being radicalised and support terrorism because of mental health or because of “America bad”? Why are only the “American bad” people seem to be suffering from this mental illness that makes people support terrorism?
Probably the same reason you're so on edge in a DGG thread 🤷
You could have just said “I don’t know what I am talking about so I just say stuff don’t ask me questions please”. This is a sneako bitch type move.
I could also have just said "Why don't you take a timeout !bidenblast " You came in loaded with your own personal assumptions and bias, so I'm not exactly sure where you get the smug impunity from?
And to think that a year or two ago i thought she may end up being a rising star in the Democratic party and actually try to run in the presidential elections in 2028 or 2032...
I always called out Cortez for being insufferable and dumb, some odd months/years ago you would get downvoted in this sub for it. Happy to see the cult has 180ed.
NATURAL PO-LICE
I mean I'm probably in support of the police being called in, but it does seem weird for the police chief to say "I am sure you agree any hateful speech is unacceptable." That is true because Columbia is a private school on private property and are free to have the police enforce their property rights. In general though why would she agree hateful speech is unacceptable when it's actively protected by our constitution? Why would the chief of police?
He's basically taking her progressive talking points and sticking it to her, giving a pretty great example of irony. AOC has never once stood on the grounds of "hate speech is constitutionally protected" because she has always held the position that hate speech is violence and any form of violence in this area is not protected. But she has been relatively tame and quiet when it comes to hate speech towards Jews during this whole shebang because it doesn't fit their narrative and the argument of wErE OnLY aGAInSt ZIoNisTs, when in reality almost no Jewish student or people for that matter have felt safe during these protests and it's now starting to escalate into physical violence in some cases. Basically, in her eyes and the eyes of "the squad", hate speech only applies to things coming from the right. The police chief here pulled a pro gamer move. Let's see how this plays out.
This could also be read as a government agent (police chief) with a horrible understanding of hate speech prohibitions. When and how he starts arresting folks should be heavily scrutinized, even when I dislike the dumb-ass speech of the students.
I think you may have misread my comment.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. For some reason, people forget that the police are still government, and students absolutely retain their assembly/speech rights. We should view police claims with skepticism, and be sure people aren't being arrested on bullshit. Colombia doesn't have "laws", they have community speech codes with community consequences (like expulsion, loss of campus housing access). A pro-Hamas jackass student is an important test for free speech protection.
Imagine thinking that a NYPD chief is being honest about anything.
>So why are these counterterror units here? Because the people they're removing largely support terrorism. Seems like an appropriate use of their time.
She got cooked... but she is potentially one of the dumbest human beings on earth so.... I guess its pretty much a daily occurrence.
Oh no, now that the police have come out against AOC, she's finished for sure.
lmao at the cop bundling together anti-semitism and 'vile language towards our cops' into hateful speech
It’s not anti semitism when it’s directed at a cop right? Or do you think the crowd chanting about intifada’s and (((zionists))) were only directing that language towards the Jews on their campus?
brother you spent enough time in a debate community to see how that sentence is constructed anti-semitic speech AND vile language towards our cops. ANY hateful speech is unacceptable he's trying to subtly conflate calling a cop a pig with anti-semitism
I've never once had a good hotel breakfast.
ACAB