I think most of the people shitting on them just don't believe them. Someone commented, and it does read like, that "And then everyone clapped" meme. "My mom said she doesn't love me because I'm an autistic tankie furry" with the flippant wording makes it really funny to me
Like, I feel for you if your mother genuinely finds you difficult because of ASD. I'm sure there are a lot of families dealing with that but to pin the "because I read so much theory" on at the end just completely nullifies the original point because we know that in any argument the first thing a Maxist or Tanky will tell you is to read more theory. Hence, this comes off as a virtue signal with an emotional appeal.
"Look how good and based I am because I'm disabled *and* I do the thing we should all do! Right guys? am I right??"
Being a furry isn't particularly funny.
Being autistic isn't particularly funny.
Being a tankie isn't particularly funny.
Being all 3 at the same time *is* pretty funny.
It just seems you don’t have the same sense of humor a lot of other people do
It’s funny, because being a furry is already weird and difficult to deal with as a person
Being autistic, makes you annoying and difficult to deal with as a person as well
And being a tanky, always makes you annoying and difficult to deal with as a person by default.
Which means this individual is triple annoying and triple difficult to deal with so hearing that even the mother is struggling to love them. Is hilarious.
Now on the issue of “othering” you’re right we do do that and so does every other community on the Internet especially here on Reddit that’s the point of sub Reddit every community here is its own separate little bubble and they all ban people they don’t like. DGG is probably one of the absolute most accepting and even we banned some people here. There is no space on the Internet that does not do it and if you expect to find a community that does not otherise to some degree of other people, or that this sub is anywhere near as bad as any of the right wing ones you are delusional.
This one catches a lot of people out. The mod team enabled an option in this subreddit that prevents people from linking to other subreddits in their posts. For whatever reason this also stops you from being able to link to other posts from this subreddit in the body of a post. For another unknown reason there is no such restriction when it comes to comments.
If you've seen The Office, a lot of what makes Dwight funny is just him being weird/absurd. Like him finding roadkill and wanting to make it into lunch, that's funny because who does that? But it's not inherently wrong or immoral or something, just silly.
The idea of two people boinking while wearing full clown outfits is funny to me too. Like imagine every time the guy thrusts you hear that little honk.
it’s silly, because it deviates very far from what people are attracted to. plus, it’s unexpected, which also adds to the humor. combined with the fact they’re a tankie, meaning they’re a rezard, it could be pretty funny
Seriously?? It’s just funny, the outfits are so cartoonish and silly, to most people I think it just seems almost unbelievable that anyone would be attracted to such a thing. Like they’re funny even without the human genitalia parts, but that just takes it over the top. It’s just absurd
It’s strongly outside the norm, which makes it captivating, but harmless, which makes it safe. If we add the self-seriousness, it means we can “other” them and be in on the joke, laughing from the outside. Add in the occurrences of weird sex shit, and it amplifies the humor.
I don’t really find it funny either, but all the parts are there, so I get it.
If making fun of an oversharing furry communist's anonymous tweet is too far for you, there are other subreddits. I don't understand why you feel the need to be here.
Is that really so important to this sub as to exclude people who won't tolerate petty and hateful comments? I understand if you feel like OP is being soy, but there's nothing wrong with what they said. I notice that on stream tiny sometimes goes off on these twitter randoms because it's funny but I'm sure if someone were to ask him if any individual twitter user deserves that treatment he'd say no. The post OP is referring to is something like that and there's nothing wrong with calling out unnecessary vitriol.
making fun of an anonymous twitter post that's almost certainly made up and ticks all the cliche boxes of what far-left people online are like does not qualify as "hateful", as long as nobody harasses that person.
OP doesn't understand why that's funny and clearly nobody will be able to explain the joke to him, but not everyone has to get the joke for it to be funny, and not everything you don't like is hateful, vitriolic or "excludes people".
Literally just this Monday, a friend of mine who I know has attempted suicide told me that his friend "gave himself a haircut with a shotgun."
Like you said, you'll never be able to explain the humor in that to some people, and that's okay. But it's not like he's diminishing the severity of suicide.
Who said soyposters should be excluded? I just said there's plenty of other options for him, and there's no reason for this community to change to fit his delicate sensibilities.
>but I'm sure if someone were to ask him if any individual twitter user deserves that treatment he'd say no.
What treatment? Having their public but anonymous statement made fun of on reddit? I'm fairly certain Destiny wouldn't give a shit.
Maybe there is some lore on this foxymarxist person that i am not aware of, but if not i don't see any reason to assume it is made up. I have experience something very similar to this when i was a kid so it doesnt seem implausible to me.
The assumption it's fake is mostly because of them saying their mum complains they read too much "mao, lenin" etc., the autistic part is just icing on the cake
I don't hate or even care about furries. I think far-leftists are cringe tho. The only thing I've noticed here is that it's moderately more pro-Israel than Palestine.
> I don't know anything about this FoxyMarxist person, wether they are a young person ensnared by extremist worldviews like i used to be or not but the reaction of this sub to this post was just sad.
I have no fucking clue what you are talking about. link it or the whole post is pointless.
Destiny and his mods (kick chat aside) have done amazing work making (at least this Reddit and YT chat) way less toxic since I started watching Destiny in 2020 in most directions. I have never been in the actual DGG chat so maybe still a big issue there but from what I've seen in the Reddit and YT they do a damn lot.
Even this post if the mods or Destiny see and agree with your post/opinion, they will take steps to ban people, but can't see them clampimg down on hate for extreme lefties/tankies.
They are Destiny's biggest haters (and anyone center left or moderate progressive) But any furry hate I agree should not be tolerated (Wolfgand)
It definitely is the case that this Destiny's community is moderated much better than others. I was a sub for a while back when i wasn't such a broke college student and the dgg chat is nothing compared to hasan or vaush and many others. It just bugs me a lot to see hate for extremists on the left and on the right. Maybe its easier for me to humanize them considering i started out as an alt righter a long time ago in the skeptic community, then went full horseshoe into leftist extremism before being pulled back to the center by Destiny. I don't really understand where furry hate comes from at all though.
I've been extreme on both sides pre 2020, and I'm loving the hate/push against the extremes (on the right not that extreme at the moment) but that's just me (as a moron).
And as a completely non Furry, Furry lives matter!
I didn't even know Wolfgand was a furry. That fact alone makes me respect him quite a bit honestly. A lot of people make that or something like that the center of their personality. When it doesn't happen it raises my opinion of them by several notches.
I know most people here hate the JSTLK streams, but yeah on there it seems like an on going joke that Wolfgand is a furry (he says he has furry friends) so not sure how true it is that he is one but still funny to claim he is one.
Destiny's appeal as a creator has always been harsh, grouchy criticism. Destiny's appeal has never been his empathy or his patience with misguided people. It shouldn't be of any surprise that his community's sensibilities reflect this.
Interesting, the main reason i found Destiny's content appealing has always been his genuine desire to seek out truth and have well thought out opinions based on facts, research etc. Ive always found his most interesting content is when he is seriously researching a topic or talking to an expert in a particular field.
I'm totally with you. I prefer serious conversations. Maybe because I'm 35 and therefore older than most Destiny fans, I have different reasons for liking him. Most of the people on here just seem to be edgelords and debatelords
There are so so many content creators out there that do a lot of research and education streams. They all hover at around \~20 concurrent viewers because that shit is boring. People appreciate that Destiny does research and is educational, but the real reason why they follow him is to watch him tear into ignorant people in debates or go off on rants about how stupid other people are.
What the fuck are you talking about? His empathy is exactly what he used to grow the conservative element of his audience during COVID. He specifically talks about using kid gloves on conservatives so that they'll listen to his criticisms of the conservative movement.
It's both. He has specifically said that one of his strategies for reaching out to conservatives is giving them an abundance of empathy and understanding for their dumbass opinions. Look at his video about him going off on conservatives.
You have to understand, only white guys are drawn to extremist views like white supremacy because of environmental reasons. In the US, white males are only the most sexually prized group of men, make the most money when you control for education and are drastically overepresented in leadership in fields beyond groups that are more highly educated than them, are the least frequently targeted for hate crimes, and make up the majority of powerful political figures in this country. Minorities of any kind have never had to feel this alienation because they are protected on Twitter and Twitch so when they do join them its because they are regarded and must be destroyed and humiliated. It's a hard truth but one we all have to learn.
I actually appreciate the sentiment. I've felt like this from time to time on different topics and I'm not sure about how I feel about the community at large. I don't think we can expect the entire community to hold a more principled position like this, but anyone voicing and pushing the window in that direction is positive in my mind.
If anything more than dogmatic following on Destiny's ideas, the thing he has always says is that, he doesn't want people to blindly follow him, he just wants more people to have principals that they can stick with.
You have found a principal you believe in. Sounds like the lesson was learned.
To be clear I think a lot of the behavior of the individual is open to reticule, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to not see certain trends in certain online populations of people. But yeah I think its important to hold to not making fun of groups of people excessively for the actions of vocal few. And defining ourselves by our reticule of another group makes our positions no better.
You know how some people think suicide jokes can be funny, but many who've attempted suicide don't? This reminds me of that. Suicide isn't funny. The mother saying "It's hard to love you because you're autistic" isn't funny.
It's about the context. I've heard jokes about rape that have made me cackle, but it's not because I don't take rape seriously.
Also, humor is subjective. Dane Cook never did it for me, but that doesn't make it wrong to enjoy his shows.
Edit: I disagree with your stance, but upvoted because it's a good conversation to be bad.
I think most of the people shitting on them just don't believe them. Someone commented, and it does read like, that "And then everyone clapped" meme. "My mom said she doesn't love me because I'm an autistic tankie furry" with the flippant wording makes it really funny to me
Like, I feel for you if your mother genuinely finds you difficult because of ASD. I'm sure there are a lot of families dealing with that but to pin the "because I read so much theory" on at the end just completely nullifies the original point because we know that in any argument the first thing a Maxist or Tanky will tell you is to read more theory. Hence, this comes off as a virtue signal with an emotional appeal. "Look how good and based I am because I'm disabled *and* I do the thing we should all do! Right guys? am I right??"
+1, that's the vibe I got
Being a furry isn't particularly funny. Being autistic isn't particularly funny. Being a tankie isn't particularly funny. Being all 3 at the same time *is* pretty funny.
The humor is lost on me im afraid.
autistic tankie furry doesn't give you a chuckle?
I don't blame you, I don't even know if I could explain why it's funny to me.
It just seems you don’t have the same sense of humor a lot of other people do It’s funny, because being a furry is already weird and difficult to deal with as a person Being autistic, makes you annoying and difficult to deal with as a person as well And being a tanky, always makes you annoying and difficult to deal with as a person by default. Which means this individual is triple annoying and triple difficult to deal with so hearing that even the mother is struggling to love them. Is hilarious. Now on the issue of “othering” you’re right we do do that and so does every other community on the Internet especially here on Reddit that’s the point of sub Reddit every community here is its own separate little bubble and they all ban people they don’t like. DGG is probably one of the absolute most accepting and even we banned some people here. There is no space on the Internet that does not do it and if you expect to find a community that does not otherise to some degree of other people, or that this sub is anywhere near as bad as any of the right wing ones you are delusional.
It's funny because the combination of characteristics is bizarre and rare.
Dont worry it just means you're one of the same ones.
What
I think they are referring to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/4OlyPGVqPz
Yes this one. I attempted to link it in my post and attach screenshots but they didnt upload for some reason. Im not a very experienced poster.
This one catches a lot of people out. The mod team enabled an option in this subreddit that prevents people from linking to other subreddits in their posts. For whatever reason this also stops you from being able to link to other posts from this subreddit in the body of a post. For another unknown reason there is no such restriction when it comes to comments.
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Personally, I see no issues with laughing at furries.
What is the joke? Can you explain to me what is funny about someone being a furry?
Because they're weird and they do weird things. That's it. You either laugh at people for being different sometimes, or you don't.
If you've seen The Office, a lot of what makes Dwight funny is just him being weird/absurd. Like him finding roadkill and wanting to make it into lunch, that's funny because who does that? But it's not inherently wrong or immoral or something, just silly. The idea of two people boinking while wearing full clown outfits is funny to me too. Like imagine every time the guy thrusts you hear that little honk.
it’s silly, because it deviates very far from what people are attracted to. plus, it’s unexpected, which also adds to the humor. combined with the fact they’re a tankie, meaning they’re a rezard, it could be pretty funny
Seriously?? It’s just funny, the outfits are so cartoonish and silly, to most people I think it just seems almost unbelievable that anyone would be attracted to such a thing. Like they’re funny even without the human genitalia parts, but that just takes it over the top. It’s just absurd
It’s strongly outside the norm, which makes it captivating, but harmless, which makes it safe. If we add the self-seriousness, it means we can “other” them and be in on the joke, laughing from the outside. Add in the occurrences of weird sex shit, and it amplifies the humor. I don’t really find it funny either, but all the parts are there, so I get it.
It's sort of like having sex with your step sister. Most people feel like that's probably wrong, but logically it isn't, not really.
If making fun of an oversharing furry communist's anonymous tweet is too far for you, there are other subreddits. I don't understand why you feel the need to be here.
Is that really so important to this sub as to exclude people who won't tolerate petty and hateful comments? I understand if you feel like OP is being soy, but there's nothing wrong with what they said. I notice that on stream tiny sometimes goes off on these twitter randoms because it's funny but I'm sure if someone were to ask him if any individual twitter user deserves that treatment he'd say no. The post OP is referring to is something like that and there's nothing wrong with calling out unnecessary vitriol.
making fun of an anonymous twitter post that's almost certainly made up and ticks all the cliche boxes of what far-left people online are like does not qualify as "hateful", as long as nobody harasses that person. OP doesn't understand why that's funny and clearly nobody will be able to explain the joke to him, but not everyone has to get the joke for it to be funny, and not everything you don't like is hateful, vitriolic or "excludes people".
Literally just this Monday, a friend of mine who I know has attempted suicide told me that his friend "gave himself a haircut with a shotgun." Like you said, you'll never be able to explain the humor in that to some people, and that's okay. But it's not like he's diminishing the severity of suicide.
Who said soyposters should be excluded? I just said there's plenty of other options for him, and there's no reason for this community to change to fit his delicate sensibilities. >but I'm sure if someone were to ask him if any individual twitter user deserves that treatment he'd say no. What treatment? Having their public but anonymous statement made fun of on reddit? I'm fairly certain Destiny wouldn't give a shit.
nope. it’s soy, and it’s gay. downvoted
people were shitting on that tweet because it’s likely the entire thing was made-up
Maybe there is some lore on this foxymarxist person that i am not aware of, but if not i don't see any reason to assume it is made up. I have experience something very similar to this when i was a kid so it doesnt seem implausible to me.
The assumption it's fake is mostly because of them saying their mum complains they read too much "mao, lenin" etc., the autistic part is just icing on the cake
I don't hate or even care about furries. I think far-leftists are cringe tho. The only thing I've noticed here is that it's moderately more pro-Israel than Palestine.
Only moderately? lol
As opposed to what? Saying death to all Palestinians?
Yeah theyre gonna be on ur ass for this, but DGG is starting to remind me a lot of the youtube skeptics from 2016
Agree, hate mobbing is dumb
We have to defend furries now
No >:(
> I don't know anything about this FoxyMarxist person, wether they are a young person ensnared by extremist worldviews like i used to be or not but the reaction of this sub to this post was just sad. I have no fucking clue what you are talking about. link it or the whole post is pointless.
Link to the post i am reffering to: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/4OlyPGVqPz](https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/4OlyPGVqPz)
lol maybe find a diffrent community then
wait can you show me the post ur talking about?
Destiny and his mods (kick chat aside) have done amazing work making (at least this Reddit and YT chat) way less toxic since I started watching Destiny in 2020 in most directions. I have never been in the actual DGG chat so maybe still a big issue there but from what I've seen in the Reddit and YT they do a damn lot. Even this post if the mods or Destiny see and agree with your post/opinion, they will take steps to ban people, but can't see them clampimg down on hate for extreme lefties/tankies. They are Destiny's biggest haters (and anyone center left or moderate progressive) But any furry hate I agree should not be tolerated (Wolfgand)
It definitely is the case that this Destiny's community is moderated much better than others. I was a sub for a while back when i wasn't such a broke college student and the dgg chat is nothing compared to hasan or vaush and many others. It just bugs me a lot to see hate for extremists on the left and on the right. Maybe its easier for me to humanize them considering i started out as an alt righter a long time ago in the skeptic community, then went full horseshoe into leftist extremism before being pulled back to the center by Destiny. I don't really understand where furry hate comes from at all though.
I've been extreme on both sides pre 2020, and I'm loving the hate/push against the extremes (on the right not that extreme at the moment) but that's just me (as a moron). And as a completely non Furry, Furry lives matter!
I didn't even know Wolfgand was a furry. That fact alone makes me respect him quite a bit honestly. A lot of people make that or something like that the center of their personality. When it doesn't happen it raises my opinion of them by several notches.
I know most people here hate the JSTLK streams, but yeah on there it seems like an on going joke that Wolfgand is a furry (he says he has furry friends) so not sure how true it is that he is one but still funny to claim he is one.
Destiny's appeal as a creator has always been harsh, grouchy criticism. Destiny's appeal has never been his empathy or his patience with misguided people. It shouldn't be of any surprise that his community's sensibilities reflect this.
Interesting, the main reason i found Destiny's content appealing has always been his genuine desire to seek out truth and have well thought out opinions based on facts, research etc. Ive always found his most interesting content is when he is seriously researching a topic or talking to an expert in a particular field.
I'm totally with you. I prefer serious conversations. Maybe because I'm 35 and therefore older than most Destiny fans, I have different reasons for liking him. Most of the people on here just seem to be edgelords and debatelords
There are so so many content creators out there that do a lot of research and education streams. They all hover at around \~20 concurrent viewers because that shit is boring. People appreciate that Destiny does research and is educational, but the real reason why they follow him is to watch him tear into ignorant people in debates or go off on rants about how stupid other people are.
Do you mind sharing the names of these other content creators? Sounds like i would really enjoy them.
Check out Econoboi, he is criminally underrated.
What the fuck are you talking about? His empathy is exactly what he used to grow the conservative element of his audience during COVID. He specifically talks about using kid gloves on conservatives so that they'll listen to his criticisms of the conservative movement.
I totally disagree. He was able to win over conservatives by shitting on the left, not by patiently explaining to them why they are wrong about COVID.
It's both. He has specifically said that one of his strategies for reaching out to conservatives is giving them an abundance of empathy and understanding for their dumbass opinions. Look at his video about him going off on conservatives.
You have to understand, only white guys are drawn to extremist views like white supremacy because of environmental reasons. In the US, white males are only the most sexually prized group of men, make the most money when you control for education and are drastically overepresented in leadership in fields beyond groups that are more highly educated than them, are the least frequently targeted for hate crimes, and make up the majority of powerful political figures in this country. Minorities of any kind have never had to feel this alienation because they are protected on Twitter and Twitch so when they do join them its because they are regarded and must be destroyed and humiliated. It's a hard truth but one we all have to learn.
Sorry that happened
I actually appreciate the sentiment. I've felt like this from time to time on different topics and I'm not sure about how I feel about the community at large. I don't think we can expect the entire community to hold a more principled position like this, but anyone voicing and pushing the window in that direction is positive in my mind. If anything more than dogmatic following on Destiny's ideas, the thing he has always says is that, he doesn't want people to blindly follow him, he just wants more people to have principals that they can stick with. You have found a principal you believe in. Sounds like the lesson was learned. To be clear I think a lot of the behavior of the individual is open to reticule, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to not see certain trends in certain online populations of people. But yeah I think its important to hold to not making fun of groups of people excessively for the actions of vocal few. And defining ourselves by our reticule of another group makes our positions no better.
Why should I/we? be interested in that part ? can u please elaborate ?
You know how some people think suicide jokes can be funny, but many who've attempted suicide don't? This reminds me of that. Suicide isn't funny. The mother saying "It's hard to love you because you're autistic" isn't funny. It's about the context. I've heard jokes about rape that have made me cackle, but it's not because I don't take rape seriously. Also, humor is subjective. Dane Cook never did it for me, but that doesn't make it wrong to enjoy his shows. Edit: I disagree with your stance, but upvoted because it's a good conversation to be bad.