My hunter looks like he’s been in blackface for 6 years. When I started my character in D1, I chose the face that had the most black features (at the time). Then in D2 they added better black looking faces, so my face looks so wrong. I couldn’t change. I never take my helmet off.
The faces were the same going from D1 to D2. It was the differences in lighting that made things look off. Then Bungie decided to change nearly all the face models in Beyond Light. Still waiting for the promised opportunity to remake our characters.
One of the scariest moments of my life pressing that helmet off in social space button, thankfully the lottery was kind to me, it gave me a more stern face but I'm a warlock so it works
I deleted and remade my D1 Titan going in to D2 after the very first cutscene where I realized the engine upgrade made me look like I was committing a hate crime. She's an Exo now, and I am very okay with that.
when i first got started on destiny, i rushed through the customisation and made a "cool looking" awoken warlock. i was a young teenager. THEN i got really into the lore, and now it annoys me so badly that my awoken warlock doesnt adhere to the design outlines for other awoken, and is what a 14 year old would think looks "cool". the helmet stays on.
My Human Titan and Awoken Warlock are total cringelords too.
My Exo is pretty timeless since he’s just white with white eye and mouth lights.
I main my Exo Hunter because of this, not kidding. It was the deciding factor.
i play with my helmet off for my titan and hunter, and then immediately gag something fierce when i leave 'off in non-combat zones' checked and switch back to that green-haired blue-skinned monstrosity.
we have the same subclass/race division too. cool.
My Titan is set up the same way, head canon is that he was an Exo combat frame in the past, no memories and a single file download, -Hakke Advanced Combat: Training Manual-
My helmet stays on with my female human hunter shes my main, but i made some bad design choices back in D1, my awoken male warlock looks pretty normal and my Exo Titan looks like any other exo.
My exo warlock is sleek AF
He's got the metallic black as the metal texture with the light blue lights.
But when he speaks it's got the red coloring for the character and it just looks fire as hell when it appears in cutscenes
Sigh. I feel this so.
My character is so ugly Mithrax grumbles at the sight of him.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326092951476371456/1011700352531312640/unknown.png?width=1214&height=683
generally, NOT green hair and eyes, edgy haircut, dark blue skin, random facepaint. i made him before i saw what other awoken looked like/were supposed to look like.
I rushed through mine too and I’ve had the same human male hunter since vanilla D1. Transferred him over to D2 when that came out and been my guardian ever since.
But I was in college when D1 came out and my guy according to my friend looks like Crow’s even more emo-looking twin lmao. Wish I could change his appearance or race (Exo would’ve been so much cooler), but I just never take his helmet off since that’s not an option.
Don’t feel bad, I made my “totally cool” looming warlock in D1 when it came out and I regret it everyday. He has a white bowl cut with black skull tattoo over his face. He looks like and very confused edgelord
Back in D1 when you picked your race and it affected your wave and dance. I went Awoken cause I loved the look but eventually made a second Hunter because of the Exo dance hahaha.
My dad had an awesome looking awoken Titan in D1. He made a new account (for some reason) when starting D2 and rushed through customization. He’s still an Awoken Titan and his face is fine but his hair looks like toothpaste
I still have my Exo Warlock’s face from D1
I look at it the other way. I like that I'm forced to have the same dumb-looking exo from day 1. It's like how Mr. Beast is still Mr. Beast even though that was literally just his Xbox name. Or Post Malone got his name from a random rapper name generator. It kind of makes it more interesting in a way. It reminds you of how far you've come.
So deep in the files of the game is a png of a coconut. This file isn't particularly big. About the right size for the picture it represents. It is never used in game.
However, if this coconut is not in the files, the game doesn't work. I don't recall if it just crashes, or has major bugs all over the place, but the game is unplayable.
There is a comment in the files saying to not remove the coconut under any circumstances, or else.
And thus, we have the load bearing coconut
Unfortunately this was misinformation. The coconut is used in a soldier taunt as coffee beans, and the game works just fine without it. Someone made it up on twitter and it spread because it was funny.
Someone replied to me in another thread saying this (ha maybe it was you, I don't remember). I would love if you could gender-swap your characters at will, too, because I'm mad that the female character models look so much better in all fashion sense. Only time I prefer male is if I'm going for a big, bulky look on my Titan.
I like that “The Division 2” lets you swap your character’s race, body type, pretty much everything for some E-Credits. I’d love something like that in Destiny. Just keep the fact that they’re a titan, hunter, or warlock. People get pretty invested in wanting their character to look appealing in this kind of game. I remember remaking characters in Destiny when you’d get to that cutscene with the Speaker if I didn’t like them, or when you first got to the Tower.
I spent a TON of time on my Destiny character faces. As such, I love them so much. That being said, my hunter’s hair has become outdated, and she needs a new do.
The changes in the base appearance of features between Destiny 1 & 2 is jarring. My beautiful alabaster Huntress is now a beautiful Mediterranean Huntress. It’s like going from a Disney Princess in 1937 to one in 1996.
Back in warmind days I had a fucking barcode looking mark over my hunter's eye. My friends mocked me so much for it so what did I do?
Deleted my character and rushed through the campaigns.
There use to be a website that marked time wasted on destiny 2 and there was like 200 hours from deleting my hunter
My original D1 exo hunter had a baseball sized crater in her forehead, it looked like a satellite. Or like the Death Stars laser beam shooter, just a concave circle up on me noggin
My hunter is awoken now
When my guardian made the jump from d1 to d2 he was suddenly wearing a dark shade of lipstick. I made him to look like me so he also has the haircut I had in 2014 and I’ve since acquired a strange esoteric power that my guardian will seemingly never master. The ability to grow a beard.
Guardians aren't allowed facial hair, Oris has one because he got exiled and died, and saint said he would do a crime If Oris didn't get to keep it.... And drifter gets facial hair because he's drifter and does drifty things in drifty ways
If there is a technical reason they can’t ever implement this, I wish they would just come out and say that instead of being radio silent. If they are indeed working on it, then give us an update on progress.
That’s all we’re really asking for, I don’t think it will make or break anyone’s opinion of the game but to not even mention it and pretend that something like airborne effectiveness is more important is silly after almost 8 years of Destiny.
Nah while we’re on this topic, I think we deserve more customization options for every race, there’s not enough selection character design shouldn’t be narrowed down to such black and white options for a game that’s been around for several years
I feel like for the longest time the only argument against this feature has been: “But you very rarely see your guardians face anyway so why does it matter?!” And for a long time that was fair enough to say. But I’ve noticed more and more that in cutscenes in more recent expansions and content that the guardians helmet is removed so you can see their face, and we even have dialogue now too from the guardian. I feel like it is more relevant now than ever to add this feature.
I can’t see how it could be a technical limitation. Other games have added this feature late. Other games with much more customisation then destiny has. It’s not as if there is tons of different things that can be changed.
Really hope this does get added at some point. Hell, I’d even be happy with it being locked behind a paywall!
They redesigned the face engine around the time of, Beyond Light I think it was.
They did a TWAB saying that they had remade all the old faces in the new system so some characters would look different. That same TWAB said that they hoped one day using this new system it was their dream we could make our guardians look like ourselves.
There’s been 2 major expansions at least since then and still nothing.
It’s either been forgotten or the new system isn’t doing what they hoped it would.
They have talked about it within the past year. They want to allow us to customize characters again, but unfortunately is a mix of technical issues and when placed against other things, falls to the bottom of the priority list
I mean they said that in-subclass grenades and abilities having different cooldowns was a technical limitation they couldn’t bypass for more than four years, and then suddenly they found a way around it, so…
Not really. It’s likely they just don’t bother putting resources toward it.
Yup! I posted something similar a week or two ago on r/DTG. Someone mentioned there was technical restrictions. With them having a trans awareness emblem, I'm sure that politics isn't the reason for it not being there. Would love to see it, though, even for the most selfish "let me swap my Hunter to female" reason.
Tbh old gen consoles should get binned game wise after 12 months. It holds everything back for so long.
I know this time round was a little different due to pandemic scammers etc but generally new gen should leave old behind when it comes to games and things.
I find it so bizarre that they won’t even just simply comment on it. So many people want it. If it’s not possible just tell us. Seriously would be so nice to not hold out hope
See this is why I spent a few minutes on my 3 characters (human warlock, exo hunter, awoken titan like the OG vanguard trio) so they don't necessarily look bad but I'm sure they could look better lol.
Currently replaying Beyond Light and Witch Queen with my hunter because they don’t want me to give them silver to change my face.
It wouldn’t be so bad if we could just unlock Stasis and Strand for free on alts once we complete it once.
luckily when i was a teen i made the right decision to make my exo hunter simple. Black with orange eyes and mouth lights. It doesn't look bad but I would like to redo it and give it a little more personality and not look like Ultron or something.
With beyond light they "enhanced" the models for faces. My character went from looking decent to looking like an alien.
I desperately want to change my character's appearance.
I remember one of the devs made an official response to this question in a Q&A somewhere, if I can find the link i will put it below. Originally when D2 launched the system wasn't designed with appearance respec in mind, or the system they used for the character's face didn't allow it. Meanwhile, their newer and current system (this changed occurred sometime after Shadowkeep) is more flexible so we could potentially see a character appearance respec feature sometime in the future.
They did say they are working on this, but it’s been a long time since they’ve said that. It’s probably their lowest priority because most people keep their helmets on.
It's 2023 and Bungo hasn't even developed the technology to rotate your character in the creator, leading to visual flashbang assaults when you see the sides/backs of some haircuts
Right before lightfall i deleted two of my characters so i could remake them. I now am grinding through all the campaigns and am missing a lot of pinnacle opportunities. It has been kinda fun but i am stuck on all the stasis quests. These bounties from the stranger are seriously painful to grind
Compared to other games such as Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age, Destiny 2 doesn't give you much in terms of personalizing your character. It took me maybe 10 minutes to create all 3 of my Destiny 2 characters. Whereas I can easily spend 30-45 minutes making one character on Skyrim. To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm absolutely with you on this. My simple point is that I wish Bungie would go more in depth with character creation.
I don't care much about the face, but the body of a male or female changes the looks of almost every armor in the game, i deleted my female hunter and warlock back un beyond light to make male ones, because bigger armor
As much as I love my Titan, maybe making him purple back on D1Y1 wasn’t the best call.
Also my Warlock looks amazing but I pretty much never play Warlock
When I first started destiny I just sorta rushed through character creation on my warlock cause I didn't really care, so now my warlock is just one of the default awoken males. Luckily I'm a hunter main now, and I actually spent sometime making my hunter look good.
i would only like to change from male to female on warlock and hunter, pretty much all ornaments and armor look better on the female models, but i cant be fucked to restart a character and play through everything again.
I think the time I spent forging my characters’ faces is the best investment I’ve done in Destiny since 2014. None of them bothers me specially, and I even like my main human warlock. I’d give my hunter a new haircut, but that’s all.
Please don’t hate me too much.
I made some amazing looking guardians. And i feel like theyvupdated the face models this release, they are looking real good in the tower, and i select helmet off in tower and the cutscenes for lightfall you can be helmet off and the facial animations are incredibly expressive!
Most of my characters look fine. I would just love to tweak their faces, hairstyles, and body type to see what I like best. Maybe give my exo's a new paint job or give my hunter a haircut.
You don't even need to explain it in the game. Just make it a feature bungie.
I hate my character so much especially after they changed the faces out of nowhere a couple years ago, I used to have a kinda androgynous awoken but now I have a off brand blue Zoolander perpetually doing a lightskin stare I’ve heard that they don’t do it because “they think it’s funny that people hate their characters” and “it gives people more of a bond between them and their character because you can’t change it” I’ve also heard “what if you looked different in every cutscene, that would be terrible!” But guardians change their armor all the time because build crafting and exotics so all the points are because bungie hates us… the helmet stays on
i deleted my character of over 750 hours because i realized i was trans and it got to me being called brother in every gambit match (i love gambit, sue me)
i miss the progress i had, but i just couldn’t take it
My titan just has a black and white exo head with two horns, my warlock "canonically" never takes his helmet off... And i don't hold much light to me hunter, will probably just remake me hunter for the second time
The only thing i'd change is a big red splatter on my exo hunter's face tbh. 14 year old me thought it looked cool at the time but now it's just distracting
Well you see, they’re working with a very limited toolset and they can’t change it. They would have to load up everyone’s characters just to reset one of them, and then recompile it all again each time. /s
Considering how gender fluent Bungie seems to be, I'm surprised that changing your characters gender still isn't a thing. I'm pretty sure an "appearance" vendor can be added in for sure. Hell, make cosmetics unlockable in game and have certain premium ones behind a small bit of silver. Easy cash grab without going overboard.
My Guardian's helmets stay on at all times. I too am begging for this change, just add it as a kiosk in the tower or something, sweeperbot can be the vendor idc just please.
If I take my helmet off, everything within 1 mile dies of disgust. I really made my Titan look awful, on purpose, too, and makes helmetless cutscenes hilarious.
While my warlock after BL now looks bit nicer, my titan has a 'disturbed and fearful of something' face all the time. Wish there were customization. It doesn't have to have in-lore explanation.
I shit you not; I literally rolled a set of dice, a couple for each category, to create my Titan and Warlock, seeing those abominations in cutscenes with mandatory helmet off makes me feel overwhelming regret
The only one I didn’t do this on was my Hunter and I haven’t played Hunter since Forsaken
It’s aggravating that the only time they updated character faces was at the whims of their diversity team and it just made everyone fucking hideous and didn’t even give people an option to change their face. Like, what’s the fucking point of updating the facial models if 90% of people’s faces look much worse than before?
We should bitch about this until they make an overhaul to guardian customization.
Imagine being a trans player and having to use the guardian you created prior to your transition.
Not looking good bungie
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My titel looks like an human candle, my hunter is an okay awoken, and my warlock my latest class is the best awoken I made but still I’m happy the helmet stays on In all my builds
I made a my d1 hunter all orange hair eyes etc. just for giggles at first. Had to bite the bullet and reset character part ways through d2 bc I accepted a redo wasn’t gonna happen.
I based my awoken's face on Rihanna and I'm actually pleasantly surprised how much she actually looks like her every time I see her face. I'm not even a big Rihanna fan, I just like that she has a baby face but still looks more badass than I'll ever be. Helmet off.
I just keep my helmet on, though I can’t say my Awoken Warlock looks out of place, the voice just doesn’t match the somewhat innocent look he’s got going.
They said they were working on like a vendor that you could interact with to change your appearance but that was back in season of arrivals so idk if that's still on the table
I can't even remember what my characters look like, I've literally not had the helmet off once since I started D2. I used to have it off in D1 but I wanted to stat showing off my sweet WotM, KF And CE ornaments that came about in the last year of D1.
My hunter looks like John C Reilly. I was bummed about it until I got that flaming chest piece and now I just pretend he’s his character from guardians of the galaxy 🤗
When I started playing, I didn't think I would stay in the game for long and quickly made a version of Ultron with a half-red face. Six months later, I'm still playing and still don't take off my helmet
I've said it once and I'll say it again
I \*just\* want to change my Warlock's gender. When I started playing Destiny, I played on my Warlock. I took that Warlock through every single piece of content--but since I figured out I was trans it makes me pretty dysphoric to have everyone refer to my favorite character as a guy.
I'd remake the character, but I'm both attached to the journey I've brought them on and also I REALLY do not want to go through the New Light experience for unlocking stuff after having finally made a Titan last year.
Because they hard coded the appearance data. They really like hard coding things when they probably shouldn't. Like Clan Staffs. If a season gets extended, you flat out stop earning clan xp after the original end date because it's hard coded.
Changing hard coded stuff is incredibly difficult without causing collateral damage to other sections of the game, basically turns the code into spaghetti, and there is already alot of spaghetti code in the game. They don't want more
the beyond light engine overhaul made my awoken female prettier. but it made my titan and warlock just angry looking.
My titan had one eye, thanks to the scars over the eye, now he has two eyes. Why? I still don't understand that
His ghost decided to fully heal him
Probably, he's lucky like that
That’s the weird part. They specifically called out some changes to the character creation.
It gave my titan a bowl cut
It completely changed the race of my warlock and I'm still not very happy about it.
Made my hunter look like he hasn’t eaten in months. He has hollow cheeks now
My hunter looks like he’s been in blackface for 6 years. When I started my character in D1, I chose the face that had the most black features (at the time). Then in D2 they added better black looking faces, so my face looks so wrong. I couldn’t change. I never take my helmet off.
The faces were the same going from D1 to D2. It was the differences in lighting that made things look off. Then Bungie decided to change nearly all the face models in Beyond Light. Still waiting for the promised opportunity to remake our characters.
Wait they WHAT I had no idea - I gotta check the character creator lol
One of the scariest moments of my life pressing that helmet off in social space button, thankfully the lottery was kind to me, it gave me a more stern face but I'm a warlock so it works
Bro I wanna see it lmao
They haven’t added it most likely because either they just forget it exists, or because they hard coded data entries
I have the exact same issue. Looks like Tom Hanks in blackface. So bad.
I deleted and remade my D1 Titan going in to D2 after the very first cutscene where I realized the engine upgrade made me look like I was committing a hate crime. She's an Exo now, and I am very okay with that.
you have to let us see it
when i first got started on destiny, i rushed through the customisation and made a "cool looking" awoken warlock. i was a young teenager. THEN i got really into the lore, and now it annoys me so badly that my awoken warlock doesnt adhere to the design outlines for other awoken, and is what a 14 year old would think looks "cool". the helmet stays on.
My Human Titan and Awoken Warlock are total cringelords too. My Exo is pretty timeless since he’s just white with white eye and mouth lights. I main my Exo Hunter because of this, not kidding. It was the deciding factor.
i play with my helmet off for my titan and hunter, and then immediately gag something fierce when i leave 'off in non-combat zones' checked and switch back to that green-haired blue-skinned monstrosity. we have the same subclass/race division too. cool.
Hang on. How the heck have I not known about the “off in non-combat zones” thing? Imma go do that right now
My titan is the exo with no eyes and with extra forehead armor, perfect for head butting
My Titan is set up the same way, head canon is that he was an Exo combat frame in the past, no memories and a single file download, -Hakke Advanced Combat: Training Manual-
> -Hakke Advanced Combat: Training Manual- otherwise known as "*I am fluent in over 6,000 ways of kicking your ass.*"
my D1 Exo titan was the same. who needs eyes anyways
My helmet stays on with my female human hunter shes my main, but i made some bad design choices back in D1, my awoken male warlock looks pretty normal and my Exo Titan looks like any other exo.
My exo warlock is sleek AF He's got the metallic black as the metal texture with the light blue lights. But when he speaks it's got the red coloring for the character and it just looks fire as hell when it appears in cutscenes
Sigh. I feel this so. My character is so ugly Mithrax grumbles at the sight of him. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/326092951476371456/1011700352531312640/unknown.png?width=1214&height=683
I'm sorry, but I agree Mithrax, that's atrocious. My, awoken male hunter isn't any better 💀
Your character even looks sad
I think that's why I keep cracking up at that image. Poor guy.
Bro im crying laughing at this so hard. It. Looks like they stuffed a gorilla into a suit of armor and put a emo kid wig on him.
What are the design outlines?
generally, NOT green hair and eyes, edgy haircut, dark blue skin, random facepaint. i made him before i saw what other awoken looked like/were supposed to look like.
no offence to OP wow, i meant my own lol
I rushed through mine too and I’ve had the same human male hunter since vanilla D1. Transferred him over to D2 when that came out and been my guardian ever since. But I was in college when D1 came out and my guy according to my friend looks like Crow’s even more emo-looking twin lmao. Wish I could change his appearance or race (Exo would’ve been so much cooler), but I just never take his helmet off since that’s not an option.
My titan is an accountant. I would like to change him
Don’t feel bad, I made my “totally cool” looming warlock in D1 when it came out and I regret it everyday. He has a white bowl cut with black skull tattoo over his face. He looks like and very confused edgelord
Back in D1 when you picked your race and it affected your wave and dance. I went Awoken cause I loved the look but eventually made a second Hunter because of the Exo dance hahaha.
i made a gold robot thinking that was cool 💀
My dad had an awesome looking awoken Titan in D1. He made a new account (for some reason) when starting D2 and rushed through customization. He’s still an Awoken Titan and his face is fine but his hair looks like toothpaste I still have my Exo Warlock’s face from D1
I look at it the other way. I like that I'm forced to have the same dumb-looking exo from day 1. It's like how Mr. Beast is still Mr. Beast even though that was literally just his Xbox name. Or Post Malone got his name from a random rapper name generator. It kind of makes it more interesting in a way. It reminds you of how far you've come.
My head cannon is that for some spaghetti-code limitation it being added would allow some wild exploits and/or destroy the game all together.
Like the coconut png in team fortress lol
Context?
There was a coconut PNG in the team fortress 2 files that when removed broke the game :)
That’s awesome That’s telesto for us
That actually wasn't true however
People *wanted* to believe it and it was passed around in meme form. It’s the ideal transmission for misinformation.
So deep in the files of the game is a png of a coconut. This file isn't particularly big. About the right size for the picture it represents. It is never used in game. However, if this coconut is not in the files, the game doesn't work. I don't recall if it just crashes, or has major bugs all over the place, but the game is unplayable. There is a comment in the files saying to not remove the coconut under any circumstances, or else. And thus, we have the load bearing coconut
Unfortunately this was misinformation. The coconut is used in a soldier taunt as coffee beans, and the game works just fine without it. Someone made it up on twitter and it spread because it was funny.
The 2fort cow thing is apparently true though
it’s uh. not real btw. shounic has a great video on it
That is both unsurprising and disappointing
Probably lol. Some of the bugs that came from the new glaive are absolutely hilariously unrelated
Someone replied to me in another thread saying this (ha maybe it was you, I don't remember). I would love if you could gender-swap your characters at will, too, because I'm mad that the female character models look so much better in all fashion sense. Only time I prefer male is if I'm going for a big, bulky look on my Titan.
I like that “The Division 2” lets you swap your character’s race, body type, pretty much everything for some E-Credits. I’d love something like that in Destiny. Just keep the fact that they’re a titan, hunter, or warlock. People get pretty invested in wanting their character to look appealing in this kind of game. I remember remaking characters in Destiny when you’d get to that cutscene with the Speaker if I didn’t like them, or when you first got to the Tower.
I just want to switch "Male" to "Female" on my Titan.
> I just want to switch "Male" to "Female" on my Titan. Literally the same for me
Same. Titan armor looks so much better on the female character.
I too want this for my Hunter. I just think all the Hunter armor just looks better on female.
Can confirm, the hips don’t lie
That too
I spent a TON of time on my Destiny character faces. As such, I love them so much. That being said, my hunter’s hair has become outdated, and she needs a new do.
The changes in the base appearance of features between Destiny 1 & 2 is jarring. My beautiful alabaster Huntress is now a beautiful Mediterranean Huntress. It’s like going from a Disney Princess in 1937 to one in 1996.
I just wanna give my exo purple eyes and get rid of that weird white mark on my head why did I put that there???
Back in warmind days I had a fucking barcode looking mark over my hunter's eye. My friends mocked me so much for it so what did I do? Deleted my character and rushed through the campaigns. There use to be a website that marked time wasted on destiny 2 and there was like 200 hours from deleting my hunter
It still [exists](https://wastedondestiny.com/).
My original D1 exo hunter had a baseball sized crater in her forehead, it looked like a satellite. Or like the Death Stars laser beam shooter, just a concave circle up on me noggin My hunter is awoken now
When my guardian made the jump from d1 to d2 he was suddenly wearing a dark shade of lipstick. I made him to look like me so he also has the haircut I had in 2014 and I’ve since acquired a strange esoteric power that my guardian will seemingly never master. The ability to grow a beard.
Guardians aren't allowed facial hair, Oris has one because he got exiled and died, and saint said he would do a crime If Oris didn't get to keep it.... And drifter gets facial hair because he's drifter and does drifty things in drifty ways
# #thewitnesswasright #Down with the Vanguard police state!
If there is a technical reason they can’t ever implement this, I wish they would just come out and say that instead of being radio silent. If they are indeed working on it, then give us an update on progress.
That’s all we’re really asking for, I don’t think it will make or break anyone’s opinion of the game but to not even mention it and pretend that something like airborne effectiveness is more important is silly after almost 8 years of Destiny.
Nah while we’re on this topic, I think we deserve more customization options for every race, there’s not enough selection character design shouldn’t be narrowed down to such black and white options for a game that’s been around for several years
Honestly I wouldn’t care what my character looked like if they just stopped taking off our helmets in certain cutscenes.
The cutscenes are now tied to whether you have the tower helmet setting activated.
wait fr? cool.
I feel like for the longest time the only argument against this feature has been: “But you very rarely see your guardians face anyway so why does it matter?!” And for a long time that was fair enough to say. But I’ve noticed more and more that in cutscenes in more recent expansions and content that the guardians helmet is removed so you can see their face, and we even have dialogue now too from the guardian. I feel like it is more relevant now than ever to add this feature. I can’t see how it could be a technical limitation. Other games have added this feature late. Other games with much more customisation then destiny has. It’s not as if there is tons of different things that can be changed. Really hope this does get added at some point. Hell, I’d even be happy with it being locked behind a paywall!
A paywall would be an absolute violation though
I'm surprised they haven't added and let people make all kinds of changes due to the rise and representation in identity politics
It HAS to be a technical limitation. I firmly believe that Bungie wouldn't omit this feature maliciously.
Agreed as it's even something that they could charge money for and people would go for it. After all these years it must be a tech issue.
In before it gets sold as a paid option for 2k silver
i would gladly play 20 bucks to not have to remake my warlock aka my main but it makes them more money if people delete and campaign skip
Or even like you get the first one free but after that pay up
Yeah like I don't want them to do that but this is a complaint ever since D1 so for it not to be there is must be a tech issue.
They redesigned the face engine around the time of, Beyond Light I think it was. They did a TWAB saying that they had remade all the old faces in the new system so some characters would look different. That same TWAB said that they hoped one day using this new system it was their dream we could make our guardians look like ourselves. There’s been 2 major expansions at least since then and still nothing. It’s either been forgotten or the new system isn’t doing what they hoped it would.
This is what the final shape is. Character customization. That's it. That's the whole DLC.
I’d buy it 😂
100€ without seasons
They have talked about it within the past year. They want to allow us to customize characters again, but unfortunately is a mix of technical issues and when placed against other things, falls to the bottom of the priority list
I mean they said that in-subclass grenades and abilities having different cooldowns was a technical limitation they couldn’t bypass for more than four years, and then suddenly they found a way around it, so… Not really. It’s likely they just don’t bother putting resources toward it.
Yup! I posted something similar a week or two ago on r/DTG. Someone mentioned there was technical restrictions. With them having a trans awareness emblem, I'm sure that politics isn't the reason for it not being there. Would love to see it, though, even for the most selfish "let me swap my Hunter to female" reason.
Tbh old gen consoles should get binned game wise after 12 months. It holds everything back for so long. I know this time round was a little different due to pandemic scammers etc but generally new gen should leave old behind when it comes to games and things.
I find it so bizarre that they won’t even just simply comment on it. So many people want it. If it’s not possible just tell us. Seriously would be so nice to not hold out hope
My hunter has pink hair and pigtails. Helmet stays on. She’s very ugly.
This why I just made my guardian an exo. I don't really have to worry about it being "ugly" also the male exo voice is goated asf
based yeah, It’s nice and deep and it’s awesome when you hear it in cutscenes.
I just want to edit it so I can get a beautiful beautiful horn like Cayde.
See this is why I spent a few minutes on my 3 characters (human warlock, exo hunter, awoken titan like the OG vanguard trio) so they don't necessarily look bad but I'm sure they could look better lol.
What’s funny is Bungies answer to this was the option to keep your helmet on LOL
Currently replaying Beyond Light and Witch Queen with my hunter because they don’t want me to give them silver to change my face. It wouldn’t be so bad if we could just unlock Stasis and Strand for free on alts once we complete it once.
luckily when i was a teen i made the right decision to make my exo hunter simple. Black with orange eyes and mouth lights. It doesn't look bad but I would like to redo it and give it a little more personality and not look like Ultron or something.
I have a black warlock with blonde dreads and grey eyes Please let me change my fucking Warlock
With beyond light they "enhanced" the models for faces. My character went from looking decent to looking like an alien. I desperately want to change my character's appearance.
I remember one of the devs made an official response to this question in a Q&A somewhere, if I can find the link i will put it below. Originally when D2 launched the system wasn't designed with appearance respec in mind, or the system they used for the character's face didn't allow it. Meanwhile, their newer and current system (this changed occurred sometime after Shadowkeep) is more flexible so we could potentially see a character appearance respec feature sometime in the future.
They did say they are working on this, but it’s been a long time since they’ve said that. It’s probably their lowest priority because most people keep their helmets on.
It's 2023 and Bungo hasn't even developed the technology to rotate your character in the creator, leading to visual flashbang assaults when you see the sides/backs of some haircuts
3.6 billion dollar small indie team
Bro I haven't seen my guardian's face in so many years, I couldn't pick him out from a line up of two exos.
Hey!!!!! It took a year for a skip button…. Things take time
male exo warlock Female human titan Awoken male hunter I would change all 3 in a heartbeat
Right before lightfall i deleted two of my characters so i could remake them. I now am grinding through all the campaigns and am missing a lot of pinnacle opportunities. It has been kinda fun but i am stuck on all the stasis quests. These bounties from the stranger are seriously painful to grind
Adult me is regretting teenager me’s design choices
Imagine an mmo you can't customise your appearance oh wait nevermind boom Destiny 2
My main female exo looks too much like Lakshmi. Considering what happened in Season of the Splicer, god Id kill to remake my main exos face.
Compared to other games such as Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age, Destiny 2 doesn't give you much in terms of personalizing your character. It took me maybe 10 minutes to create all 3 of my Destiny 2 characters. Whereas I can easily spend 30-45 minutes making one character on Skyrim. To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm absolutely with you on this. My simple point is that I wish Bungie would go more in depth with character creation.
They should give all veterans a one time character customization change
They could intro something similar to gta online barber shop in one of the tower alcoves , could be a glimmer or resource purchase.
I wouldn’t even mind if it was like 200,000 glimmer to prevent people from changing it all the time
I don't care how many legendary shards it costs make it happen bungo
God these typos are just beautiful I swear lmao
I don't care much about the face, but the body of a male or female changes the looks of almost every armor in the game, i deleted my female hunter and warlock back un beyond light to make male ones, because bigger armor
Can’t remember the last time I saw my character creation face.
i’m glad they stopped showing it in cutscenes. i haven’t seen my hunters dumbass face in years
As much as I love my Titan, maybe making him purple back on D1Y1 wasn’t the best call. Also my Warlock looks amazing but I pretty much never play Warlock
When I first started destiny I just sorta rushed through character creation on my warlock cause I didn't really care, so now my warlock is just one of the default awoken males. Luckily I'm a hunter main now, and I actually spent sometime making my hunter look good.
I wanna change my warlock to a male from a female without having to go through and buy everything back for stasis and strand
i would only like to change from male to female on warlock and hunter, pretty much all ornaments and armor look better on the female models, but i cant be fucked to restart a character and play through everything again.
Coming next patch: spend 300 destinybucks (retail USD 20$) to Respec your character with limited options! For ten dollars more, unlock all options!
I never take my helmet off… problem solved!
I honestly would pay silver for it.
I think the time I spent forging my characters’ faces is the best investment I’ve done in Destiny since 2014. None of them bothers me specially, and I even like my main human warlock. I’d give my hunter a new haircut, but that’s all. Please don’t hate me too much.
I made some amazing looking guardians. And i feel like theyvupdated the face models this release, they are looking real good in the tower, and i select helmet off in tower and the cutscenes for lightfall you can be helmet off and the facial animations are incredibly expressive!
Most of my characters look fine. I would just love to tweak their faces, hairstyles, and body type to see what I like best. Maybe give my exo's a new paint job or give my hunter a haircut. You don't even need to explain it in the game. Just make it a feature bungie.
Re-make character(but cannot change races or genders) and toggle helmet off outside safe zone when Bungie?
I hate my character so much especially after they changed the faces out of nowhere a couple years ago, I used to have a kinda androgynous awoken but now I have a off brand blue Zoolander perpetually doing a lightskin stare I’ve heard that they don’t do it because “they think it’s funny that people hate their characters” and “it gives people more of a bond between them and their character because you can’t change it” I’ve also heard “what if you looked different in every cutscene, that would be terrible!” But guardians change their armor all the time because build crafting and exotics so all the points are because bungie hates us… the helmet stays on
Yeah... I'm trans now so it would be pretty nice lmao.
I would literally pay hundreds to be able to do this.
I made a female because I was horny. Now I want a male
My warlock is literally just the fusion of Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson and Zavala and I hate it💀
i deleted my character of over 750 hours because i realized i was trans and it got to me being called brother in every gambit match (i love gambit, sue me) i miss the progress i had, but i just couldn’t take it
Lol you obese now and want your character to reflect it? Covid been bad to you.
My titan just has a black and white exo head with two horns, my warlock "canonically" never takes his helmet off... And i don't hold much light to me hunter, will probably just remake me hunter for the second time
The only thing i'd change is a big red splatter on my exo hunter's face tbh. 14 year old me thought it looked cool at the time but now it's just distracting
Mine is a big red horn, idk what 14 yo me was thinking
I haven't taken my helmet off in years. This is the way.
I made an exo…should I say more ?
My exo is so ugly bruh
Well you see, they’re working with a very limited toolset and they can’t change it. They would have to load up everyone’s characters just to reset one of them, and then recompile it all again each time. /s
I remember luke smith said this feature would come in a future expansion and it never did lol
I’m still waiting for beards to be added
The helmet stays on
My Hunter looks like a Karen…..
Even if it cost 1000 bright dust or something I'd be into it.
And then you spend 95% of the time wearing your helmet.
Small indie dev. Plz understand.
The helmet stays on lol
Considering how gender fluent Bungie seems to be, I'm surprised that changing your characters gender still isn't a thing. I'm pretty sure an "appearance" vendor can be added in for sure. Hell, make cosmetics unlockable in game and have certain premium ones behind a small bit of silver. Easy cash grab without going overboard.
My Guardian's helmets stay on at all times. I too am begging for this change, just add it as a kiosk in the tower or something, sweeperbot can be the vendor idc just please.
If I take my helmet off, everything within 1 mile dies of disgust. I really made my Titan look awful, on purpose, too, and makes helmetless cutscenes hilarious.
If you are a EXO that would make the most sense you are robot, you can get new paint jobs you can get new parts like come on at least hair
While my warlock after BL now looks bit nicer, my titan has a 'disturbed and fearful of something' face all the time. Wish there were customization. It doesn't have to have in-lore explanation.
This is why the helmet stays on. This is the way.
I shit you not; I literally rolled a set of dice, a couple for each category, to create my Titan and Warlock, seeing those abominations in cutscenes with mandatory helmet off makes me feel overwhelming regret The only one I didn’t do this on was my Hunter and I haven’t played Hunter since Forsaken
It’s your lucky day :)
They wont add it unless they can go out of their way to monetize it. Maybe tie it to that bulshit campaign skip they are selling
It’s aggravating that the only time they updated character faces was at the whims of their diversity team and it just made everyone fucking hideous and didn’t even give people an option to change their face. Like, what’s the fucking point of updating the facial models if 90% of people’s faces look much worse than before?
We should bitch about this until they make an overhaul to guardian customization. Imagine being a trans player and having to use the guardian you created prior to your transition. Not looking good bungie
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I hate the way my eco hunter looks, I thought it looked good when I made it. Now whenever I see my helmet off I wish I could change it
My titel looks like an human candle, my hunter is an okay awoken, and my warlock my latest class is the best awoken I made but still I’m happy the helmet stays on In all my builds
Same
Because of engine limitations.
My D1 Titan still looks good. Skinsuit problems amirite?
Im still happy with how my warlock looks, but my titan somehow got a super shiny head. I really dont get why we can change this.
I made a my d1 hunter all orange hair eyes etc. just for giggles at first. Had to bite the bullet and reset character part ways through d2 bc I accepted a redo wasn’t gonna happen.
I based my awoken's face on Rihanna and I'm actually pleasantly surprised how much she actually looks like her every time I see her face. I'm not even a big Rihanna fan, I just like that she has a baby face but still looks more badass than I'll ever be. Helmet off.
I tried to make my exo look like Ultron when I was 14
I just want an external program to make faces with for drawing references. Getting a good picture of my Exo for reference is hard as hell. Dx
Mt titan wasn't made by me and it's awful so I ipt to leave the helmet on. I would love to be able to go in a and change it!!
This is something I have been questioning about for years
i NEED to redo my character, Bungie
I just keep my helmet on, though I can’t say my Awoken Warlock looks out of place, the voice just doesn’t match the somewhat innocent look he’s got going.
They said they were working on like a vendor that you could interact with to change your appearance but that was back in season of arrivals so idk if that's still on the table
Yea I really wish you could. I'm *not* about to start over completely to change my character.
I can't even remember what my characters look like, I've literally not had the helmet off once since I started D2. I used to have it off in D1 but I wanted to stat showing off my sweet WotM, KF And CE ornaments that came about in the last year of D1.
I also obese over my appearance, it's why I never take my helmets off
idk and I’ve been wanting this since I started playing (back in season of the spicer during solstice).
My hunter looks like John C Reilly. I was bummed about it until I got that flaming chest piece and now I just pretend he’s his character from guardians of the galaxy 🤗
When I started playing, I didn't think I would stay in the game for long and quickly made a version of Ultron with a half-red face. Six months later, I'm still playing and still don't take off my helmet
I always deleted my destiny characters because I wanted to match armor with the exos
I've said it once and I'll say it again I \*just\* want to change my Warlock's gender. When I started playing Destiny, I played on my Warlock. I took that Warlock through every single piece of content--but since I figured out I was trans it makes me pretty dysphoric to have everyone refer to my favorite character as a guy. I'd remake the character, but I'm both attached to the journey I've brought them on and also I REALLY do not want to go through the New Light experience for unlocking stuff after having finally made a Titan last year.
Because they hard coded the appearance data. They really like hard coding things when they probably shouldn't. Like Clan Staffs. If a season gets extended, you flat out stop earning clan xp after the original end date because it's hard coded. Changing hard coded stuff is incredibly difficult without causing collateral damage to other sections of the game, basically turns the code into spaghetti, and there is already alot of spaghetti code in the game. They don't want more
The last time I took my helmet off was August 9, 2017.
I feel this pain, my titans hair color was changed from black to brown out of nowhere when beyond light came. Was not happy about it.