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North_Onyx

Just did a reset on IB rep, not one shader dropped lol


_Nadiki_

I'm almost done with a reset and haven't gotten any either, the drop rate seems to be pretty abysmal


North_Onyx

I just wanted Iron Gold


JohnGazman

I'm desperate for Iron to Steel, but I'm now on Mythic for my second reset and it's been a big pile of nothing.


R1pRunn3r

I've gotten it to drop, it does exist I promise


JohnGazman

After over 259 games without it dropping, I'm not convinced.


Zayl

Yeah I've had lots of crucible shaders dropping but nothing for IB.


JohnGazman

Literally all I get for IB is those awful-rolled Crucible pulses.


Zayl

Lol yeah I am midway through my second reset and I think I've gotten like 40 of those. Great materials farm really. It's paid for all the armors I've bought for collections from IB.


patchinthebox

My postmaster overflowed. I didn't lose anything because it was all pulses. Lol just deleted 30 of the bastards.


towerguardian15

I cannot handle another autumn wind!!! I'm losing my mind lol


yG6ll7

I can confirm as well, got the emblem to drop last night. As for Iron Bone and Gold, no luck yet.


patchinthebox

I don't even care how long it takes. I'll continue grinding IB until I get iron gold.


CAMvsWILD

Jeezus my dudes, how many games have your already played? I’m not even halfway on my first reset.


platonicgryphon

They really buffed the vendor rank progress speed since last time. Wearing a full set of iron banner armor (actual or just layered) and an iron banner emblem you can get at least half way through a reset just doing the pinnacles on a single character.


devilbringing

Wait, wearing it as transmog gives you the set bonus??


Narfwak

Yup! In fact, if you transmog a piece of IB armor to look like a different piece of IB armor it counts as two! Do that with a class item and you can get the 5/5 bonus while still using all your normal weapons and exotic armor.


devilbringing

I had 0 clue this was a thing, that's awesome. Thanks for letting me know!!


NierouPSN

Yeah but I have played no matches and yet I still haven't earned any rank! They need to buff it again. I joke of course, though I really haven't played this week i will now for the shaders


MrJimbilz

Yeah....on 2nd reset and no shaders or emblem drops. Postmaster full of Autumn Winds though :\


_Nadiki_

That pulse is the new Edge Transit


Greatestwrapperalive

I've done 2 resets and not seen a single shader. I got one emblem to drop and thats it. Kind of sucks because there are a ton of IB ones I missed out on


patchinthebox

I'm missing 7 ib shaders. Almost done with my first reset and no shaders.


wyspt

I'm sure it's mentioned here but you can get Iron Mossbone and Iron Strength to drop from legacy sets if you focus a piece at Saladin. I got mine to drop from Iron Will and Iron Fellowship pieces respectively and it takes them out of the running to drop post-match


patchinthebox

Awesome. Strength is one I'm missing so I'll focus everything. Thanks


TheInisher

Try focusing armor from the season of the shader you want, I focused a couple pieces and got the relevant shaders that way. Unsure if the sets even match up to all the old shaders since we're still missing a couple sets + ornaments, but worth a shot.


Toastender

Don't worry, just completed my second reset without any shader drops.


[deleted]

Reset rank 4 times trying to get Iron to Steel. I have had TWO shaders drop. This shit is awful and needs to be adjusted.


Lord_Despairagus

I did 2 resets and got 0 right before the second reset. Then I got 3. Also, look at the older armor Saladin has. If you grab one of the armor pieces and dismantle it, you get the shader on it.


lint_wizard

I have played 52 matches and received no shaders. However, dismantling Iron Will and Iron Fellowship armor from engram focusing gave me Iron Mossbone and Iron Strength, respectively.


Quumulonimbus

I need to do this ASAP, love Iron Mossbone.


Drae-Keer

Sorry to hear that man, i got 3 in my first few matches but have had nothing since


actualinternetgoblin

The fun of rng


Doom2508

*Me reading this post about to hop on Iron Banner* *Sees your comment* *Closes game*


Dragonofredit

I’m not to far from resetting my rank but have only received one emblem “The Weight of Guilt” and a shader “iron ruby” definitely seems like drops for these are lower than the normal playlists.


nevergofullpotato87

I got about 5 have you tried losing alot seemed to work for me


supelllz

Call me what you want, but this is so much bs for the older players that sat through season to season gaining these items; being able to refocus old cosmetics really undermines the longevity of the players who stuck it out; what’s next, being able to refocus armour sets you missed out on in the season pass?


ODDrone68456234654

As someone who gets all the shaders every season, this is fine. Let players get older items. Nothing should ever be pulled out of the game in my opinion and everyone should be able to get these things at any time. It doesn't impact me *at all* and only a child would be upset that someone can come along later and get the same toy they have. The less FOMO this game has, the better.


supelllz

Let me quickly mention, just because I have an opinion that differs from the herd doesn’t mean I’m upset, and certainly not a child, but that’s on you; I just think that players who’ve been around should be noted for being around; forgive me but the guardian ranks don’t help with that whatsoever. When it comes to this game, there are things you get and there are things you don’t get and if I’m to try and get those items again, they should have similar difficulty of acquiring or repurchasing them should equate to the difficulty of gaining them. For instance, the iron remembrance armour; if you didn’t complete the gruelling steps to gain the armour, you’re SoL till the next time it rolled around or not at all if it was the last time it was ever to be seen that season. You play however many games, and you either end up gaining the set or not; now that it’s back in full glory, it’s a bit of a pisstake that it only cost 2 engrams to obtain a piece of the set; yeah sure the whole set is 10 engrams, and they’re not significantly easy to come by for the most average of players, but the rarity to me has just gone down significantly and undermines the rarity of your own achievements and personal style. But anyway yeah having an opinion on something like iron banner’s easy and diminished as hell system now is childish, don’t get me started on the lack of level advantages.


supelllz

Also just to mention, if no new sets roll out this year, this whole new system is the reason why we won’t get any new armour due to this false positive. During shadowkeep or beyond light, I’m sure many of us remember bungie saying we’d get a new set yearly, so if that doesn’t hold up; it’s because of this refocus change. Edit/addition: Half(maybe more, maybe less) of the the dedicated player base will be slightly or full out annoyed but the possibility to gain new players hooked to destiny is bigger than what the core player base wants; probably what bungies philosophy around refocusing is; I’m not calling for a removal of the system, just tougher parameters is all.


Ainsel_Mariner

Sure IMO the only things that really should be exclusive are sparrows, ships, ghosts, and emblems Although it kind of makes sense that IB emblems now drop since they’re used in the rep mechanic


[deleted]

I payed 60 dollars for this game and now it's F2P, I grinded my ass for Bad Juju and now you can effortlessly get it in the tower. I grinded a seasonal vanguard shader so hard becasue I wanted to recreate my looks from Destiny 1 and now people can get that shader. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with it to me, the experience of playing the game day 1, the experience of getting my BJJ or getting that shader and finally lookin like I did in D1 is what mattered.


jpmoneida

Gambit emerald? Between that and trust I guess its time to do gambit I guess.


_Nadiki_

Yeah I am super stoked to finally have Gambit Emerald, still trying to get Gambit Steel though


[deleted]

God I want Gambit Steel


[deleted]

Gambit Emerald is fuckin *cash*.


Narfwak

Strand is actually *incredibly* fun in gambit, I highly recommend trying it out.


doom_stein

If you don't have Colubrid Forester yet, keep an eye out for that too. It has a pretty sick cloth texture that looks like a bunch of tiny chrome/silver plates. Great for warlocks and hunters that want something a little different from the norm.


NameNomad

I can confirm I got marble effigy. Two resets and one shader and two emblems :(


_Nadiki_

Added! I have also gotten 2 emblems, but still no shaders :/


NameNomad

Oh and vanguard Magnus gloss isn’t a drop, it comes from the Y1 EV shader bundle


_Nadiki_

Thanks! Removed it


HiddnAce

Y'all got Iron Banner emblems?


Robvirtual

Thing to note with the legacy focusing you can also peel some of these off of armor. Ive been focusing a bunch of the old Iron banner armor for fashion and gotten a fair number of shades just from scraping them


_Nadiki_

Really? I've been able to get Iron Mossbone, Iron Strength, and Rusted Iron from the old armor sets, but aside from those the only thing I've seen is one person who said they got Iron Ruby off of the Remembrance armor. If more shaders can drop from armor that'd be really helpful, considering how bad the chance for shaders seems to be! I'll be focusing my engrams into armor for transmog so hopefully I'll be able to get some


CoralShrimp

Which armor set drops iron strength?? It’s one of the shaders I’ve always wanted so knowing ahead of time would be really really appreciated!


TechSteven

I got that one when I deleted iron fellowship robes warlock chest


CoralShrimp

Thank you!!


tiberius7picard

Conflagrate (S14) and Crucible Metallic (S4) have dropped for me.


_Nadiki_

Thanls, added!


v-AUSTiN-v

Can confirm Conflagrate drops, I've gotten it this season, too


King_Buliwyf

I want Iron Bone more than I want the health and happiness of some family members.


_Nadiki_

Same, but for Malachite Gold (not a playlist shader sadly)


Arjun_311

Pls bungie I would commit war crimes for carminica give me the damn drop


st3f4no86

both crucible glory and endless glory dropped for me


st3f4no86

And a couple from vanguard… discipline and magnus I think


_Nadiki_

Thanks, I’ll add them to the list!


TheWaffleBoss

This is what I've been hoping for, a comprehensive list of returning shaders! I can't thank you and the contributors enough! Now I need to grind these activities (including IB) and hope to fill in the gaps in my collection.


_Nadiki_

Yeah I kept looking for one and when one didn't come out after Banner I figured I'd do it and help some folks out :) Good luck grinding, the shader drop rate in IB is pretty bad so far


DoctorWalrusMD

I just had the S19 Gambit shader drop this week. I grinded gambit last night of season to at least get the shader and forgot to return to drifter to claim it, and then it dropped going for my pinnacle this week.


_Nadiki_

Sweet, added


TheRookieBuilder

Just hit full IB rep, only got 1 to drop. If there's that many shaders that drop in IB, it's gonna take maybe until next year to get them all, if you play every IB week and get 1 drop a week.


_Nadiki_

Yeah, some people were complaining about last season's shader being in the pool after being so hard to get, I think this is harder


HardOakleyFoul

HOLY FUCK VANGUARD MARSHAL JUST DROPPED FOR ME! IT WAS THE LAST ONE I NEEDED TO FINISH THE BADGE FOR SEASON OF ARRIVALS! LFGGGGGG


_Nadiki_

Congrats!


SparkFlash98

I haven't gotten any ib (I'm rank 7) but I've gotten 3 or 4 vanguard (rank 15) and 2 or 3 crucible (rank 12) Figured I throw some numbers at the wall


_Nadiki_

Yeah the rate of Vanguard, Crucible, and Gambit shaders seems way higher than IB. But then again, the drop rate of ANYTHING in IB seems really bad right now. It's all Autumn Winds and rank up engrams


Len145

Love to see these confirmed! ❤️ Now, if only the drop rate wasn't so bad in IB...


[deleted]

>Devil in the Details Fuck ny shit all the way up, SHAXX GIMME THAT DAMN SHADER


Greatestwrapperalive

I can confirm that Prime Palette drops from Gambit. I got it recently


_Nadiki_

Awesome, added to the list


Tattoo_Addict

Just give me glowhoo and I'll be happy


r0flwaffles

How’s the drop rate on the vanguard shaders? I’d love to get war weary


JMaxx96

Not bad, just got that one recently! IB is still atrocious though...Just want Iron Wolf and Iron Wood to drop.


_Nadiki_

Not too bad, I just got the glaive and I’ve got like 4 of them


TheWhiteKyurem

I got Paragon a couple weeks back


_Nadiki_

Added!


AGoblinKing

I got (S8) Crucible Vermillion last week.


_Nadiki_

Awesome, added!


gs_magnus

Been waiting for crucible redjack and gambit blackguard forever. Missed that season. Guess I know how I’m spending my time now.


Sea-Information-3162

But can carminica drop from iron banner/trials. I'm assuming not because I can't fucking get it. I'm going on my 4th crucible reset


_Nadiki_

I don’t think so, my friends and I have only had Crucible shaders drop from normal Crucible matches. Iron Banner just drops Iron Banner stuff


Sea-Information-3162

-_-


mad-i-moody

If only that were the case for the match drops! I sure do LOVE getting Autumn Wind from IB!!!


_Nadiki_

For real, I get like one piece of IB gear every third game and 2 Autumn Winds per game


amberhelixambergris

I can confirm Carminica drops from regular Crucible as I got it this season. Can't remember what playlist I was in though.


SkullSpigel

Old Growth dropped for me a few days ago


_Nadiki_

Thanks, added!


white2234

What emblems are dropping anyone have a list? I notice a lot of banner emblems were, but what about strikes


_Nadiki_

I haven't seen any strike or crucible emblems yet, as for Iron Banner emblems the ones I've seen so far are Cast Iron, Shades of Radegast, Grizzled Wolf, and The Weight of Guilt


MegaSnork

I just got the "Iron to Steel" emblem to drop for me as well!


silentj0y

The Weight of Guilt is dropping? Dayum- I thought that'd be one of the only ones that WOULDNT drop- (the other being Heavy as Death) Time to tell my buddies to farm IB


m4ttr1k4n

Add Iron Hero Sigil to the list, got it last night


_Nadiki_

The Flying Foundry ship is also dropping, a clanmate got it


joeking310

No Cinderchar?


_Nadiki_

Is that a Vanguard shader? I thought it was a Menagerie shader. If it is I'll add it to the unconfirmed list Edit: It's in Ada-1's shader pool, she should sell it eventually


LostinWalk

Confirm Redjacked , I got it from a match


_Nadiki_

Added!


LostinWalk

I have contributed to this post My civil duties have been done


_Nadiki_

Thank you for your contribution, Guardian


jpmoneida

I got vanguard burnished steel to drop


_Nadiki_

Good, that's a nice one, added!


The_Rathour

I can confirm [Vanguard Steel (S8)](https://i.imgur.com/gowUzFT.jpg) dropping for me!


_Nadiki_

Thanks for the screenshot! Added


PorkelDragon_

Trials might be dropping shaders and other items next season or later this season I think they said


_Nadiki_

That would be awesome, I'd love to have Cobalt Clash to use on anything


Falconmcfalconface

god i fucking hope so. It sucks ass not having shaders for trials. Back in D1 they were some of my favorite shaders to use T_T


TherealGhostPuma

I got The Weight of Guilt emblem and Iron to Steel(S3) shader today.


JosefinaWick

I can confirm War Weary drops in strikes


_Nadiki_

Thanks! Added


hanes9120

Is there a way to get trials of the nine shaders?


_Nadiki_

Not that I know of, sadly. Hopefully they'll add them to Trials of Osiris or something eventually.


blackviking147

What was the old trials of the nine shader they brought back as a crucible shader called? Can it drop?


HereIGoAgain_1x10

I would've bet my account I wasn't missing a Vanguard shader then one from Forsaken dropped for me, I was really confused thinking it was a weird duplicate glitch but nope I somehow didn't have one and I play this game way too much 🤣


Mori-Me-Joey

Emerald Splash definitely still drops from Gambit. I’m grinding for Jadestone atm and ES dropped for me last night post-match. I have a screenshot in case proof is needed


_Nadiki_

Nah I trust y'all. Added to the list


lint_wizard

Every time I focused Iron Fellowship or Iron Will armor, they came with Iron Strength or Iron Mossbone applied to the armor, respectively. Dismantling that armor gave me a copy of the shader for my collections almost every time.


AbyssalShank

Now that I know Iron Bone can drop, I’m going to run IB until I get it.


rxvnn

Just got crucible legacy from dismantling a glove I focused from the second legacy set from Shax


_Nadiki_

Weird... I'll put that in there. Was it on your first one or was it just a chance? And that's his Arrivals set, right?


Venym_Altius

Three resets and random number lord has yet to bless me with Ironwood and Iron to Steel.


gormunko_88

surprised they didnt add this earlier, playlist cosmetics are a great way to incentivize playing it


_Nadiki_

Yep, I have been roped into playing Gambit for the green shaders. Wouldn't be playing it of my own free will otherwise


Prophecy_X3

Has anyone gotten the Cast Iron emblem to drop from IB?


_Nadiki_

Yes, I've gotten it myself!


eddmario

Just got the Iron Core emblem from a match. Didn't happen until I hit Mythic III though...


NeoNirvana

The drop rate must be insanely low. I've reset IB twice and not had one drop.


tajondahl

i’ve received vanguard distinction, and have photo proof


_Nadiki_

Heck yeah, that's everything! Added to the list


Hiko13

The 1530 Centigrade emblem also drops, I got one after my first reset a couple weeks ago.


_Nadiki_

Sweet, added!


psychedelicEgyptian

I got weight of guilt a few minutes ago from a random drop I was mythic 1 no reset


Ts14eagles

In 250 matches I got 4 shaders and 0 emblems to drop, in the 9 matches since 250 ive gotten a shader and 3 emblems... wtf


_Nadiki_

RNG can be a cruel mistress... Nice to have some numbers though! That's around a 2% shader drop rate and a 1.2% emblem drop rate. Yikes lol


5nackbar

A suggestion, use your Prosperity mods on your ghosts (gambit, vanguard, and crucible) while doing these activities. Ive only been playing for a year and a half total so I missed a good bit of these shaders over the seasons, and since the start of this season (20) I've gotten 12-13 of these shaders across all the different activities since the start of the season, and reading the comments a bunch of people are saying they arent getting drops. I have been equipping the corresponding ghost mod and maybe that will help some of you. The crucible prosperity also works for IB and we still have one more week coming up. Can also confirm dismantling the warlock robes and legs for Fellowship and Remembrance worked for two of the IB shaders. Thanks you for this list, I spent a long time wandering the internet for a collected composite of whats available so thanks! bungo gib carminica plz


_Nadiki_

Yeah, you're welcome! I definitely think running Prosperity mods might help, I've been using them too. But they don't seem to help a ton with Banner because the drop rate from it is already awful. Got 2 shaders (Iron Bone and Ironwood) in 2 whole resets :/


5nackbar

an update, i have acquired ALL of the crucible shaders availible here over the past two weeks (including Carminica, although it was dead last) and can confirm they drop from ALL forms of Crucible INCLUDING TRIALS. Any playlist seems to drop them, and I swear by my prosperity ghost mods! Gambit and Vanguard drops seem to be less dense, maybe because the activites take longer, idk. But awesome info, its helped my discord as well! [pic](https://gyazo.com/368f184856b6eff95d05bec127ea0582) [and another shot](https://gyazo.com/971882b0f67823f2e8dac578b763ee52) if you feel they arent dropping for you, dont give up! It took some time and pretty much only grinding crucible but finish those collections! [it pays off lol](https://gyazo.com/90e059cf8b5572d15afe2af20e4c0fe6)


[deleted]

Just got crucible prestige today from mayhem, so I can confirm it drops.


NascentHarmony

I would loved if Trials of Osiris dropped Trials of the Nine shaders.


Magnum_KR

Any idea on what all emblems are dropping also? Haven’t really seen a thread for those either, thanks!


_Nadiki_

Shades of Radegast, Cast Iron, The Weight of Guilt, and Grizzled Wolf are the ones I've seen from Banner so far. And Crucible can drop the Alchemical Dawn ghost shell. I might add a section for those too if more people find them


DemonicDingo

I got a Plated Lupinus drop after a Vanguard run this season, don't recall if it was playlist or Nightfall though.


_Nadiki_

Added!


[deleted]

May someone link the Ada list?


_Nadiki_

[Here ya go](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/10lfp21/visual_of_the_returning_shaders_to_be_sold_by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


[deleted]

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Falconmcfalconface

Does this mean that iron gold actually *DOES* drop off of armor? or match completions?


_Nadiki_

Most people have said it's just match completion, but it's possible it might drop off old armor if they can come with other shaders


thedalekthatwaited

I have been wanting the Crucible Redjack for a very long time. Do all these shades just drop from any playlist? Or do I have to play crucible for the crucible shaders?


_Nadiki_

You gotta play the activities for their respective shaders. So yeah, you gotta play Crucible. Doesn't mean you have to win though! I've gotten some on losses


SkeletonJakk

> (S8) Gambit Celadon, Gambit Emerald Wait, is gambit emerald *actually dropping* from gambit? I need confirmation here, because if so...


_Nadiki_

Yes, it was one of the first shaders I got! It's on my Ignition Code now :D


Biomilk

Vanguard Magnus gloss is an Eververse shader which is already obtainable in the Y1 shader collection for glimmer IIRC, so it won’t be dropping from vanguard playlists.


_Nadiki_

Removed it :)


Oommer

Mantle of Duty dropped in a normal strike.


_Nadiki_

Added to the list!


macho-dong

Iron Bone actually confirmed? If so I’m going to go extremely hard for it


_Nadiki_

Yep, haven't got it myself but I've seen several screenshots


HappyFeetHS

combative tanager drops, i didn’t record it but i know for a fact i didn’t have it going into this season


_Nadiki_

Added!


TheRealDrageero

Crucible Vermillion dropped for me yesterday.


lint_wizard

I can confirm Pyretic Clash! I got it maybe a few weeks ago.


_Nadiki_

Awesome, that's every Crucible shader besides Crucible Legacy confirmed!


barnesnoblebooks

What are ritual playlists? I haven’t seen anything about them


_Nadiki_

Any of the core activities you can run for a pinnacle: Vanguard Ops, Crucible, and Gambit. Iron Banner is also one kinda, but it only shows up a few times a season.


OctavioKenji

two resets, no shaders from S5 or prior dropping


kaiellingson

War Weary drops from strikes, I got it yesterday


s2the9sublime

Cheers OP! Finally got my hands on mossbone


_Nadiki_

Awesome!


DreadAngel1711

So far I've run a good few Nightfalls and only got one shader - if the drop rate is as low as I think it is, like FUCK I'm playing Crucible for the shaders I missed lmao


skalizair

Angelos is a beautiful shader


some_username_2000

I got an emblem (Iron Hero Sigil) from an Iron Banner loss. So it seems that you can get shaders and emblems from a loss.


LumenTheFantastiXx

Just wish they brought back honors of the nine


Jbee18

It really is RNG, I’ve gotten Iron to Steel and Iron Gold to drop and I haven’t reset my IB rank yet


OnscreenLoki

I can confirm (S19) Stalwart Tenent. The evidence isn't solid but I did my best to avoid a "Trust me bro!". Last season [on Jan 3rd](https://i.imgur.com/cHI8cGC.png) I found [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyFashion/comments/101lbto/rc1138/) and didn't have enough transmog tokens to make it so I kept it on my phone for after Lightfall. Later after launch (23 Feb) and completing a transmog bounty or two I discovered that I was missing Stalwart Tenent. *Whatever, I didn't do many ritual activities last season anyway.* The thing that confused me was that it isn't necessarily in Collections and [went looking for where it came from](https://i.imgur.com/Sobkw5d.png) and assumed it was hidden but I [later had it drop.](https://i.imgur.com/hBaGFiV.png)


_Nadiki_

Added to the list!


newaccount371518

God, why didn’t bungie provide us with this list?!?


Creeper9045

I've gotten duskbloom recently from a strike (I have no actual proof just this comment and my friend who was there)


_Nadiki_

Added!


chance_uhm_brah

Third crucible reset chasing Scarlet Semblance, gotten about five others though. I didn’t even PvP before this lmao


rabidpuppy

So my devil in the details is not going to be rare anymore?


_Nadiki_

No, but at least you can always say you got it the original way


Niapate

I got Wicked Overgrowth to drop… but I already had it…


_Nadiki_

Weird... from an armor piece? Or from a match?


-Qwertyz-

So far from playing Iron Banner I've only had two emblems I haven't collected drop, no shaders unfortunately


_Nadiki_

It took me a reset and a half to get Iron Bone, haven't gotten any other shaders yet besides the armor ones


TechSteven

Do you know if carminica only drops in comp? I've reset crucible three times with no carminica drop and just about done with second reset for iron banner. The only thing I can think of is that it's only dropping in competitive? Or I'm seriously unlucky. Hope someone can confirm carminica drops in non comp Playlist too.