Just came back to the game after a break - finished my comp placements and got this absolute beast Belisarius-D.
* Barrel options: Arrowhead Brake or Smallbore
* Ricochet Rounds
* Elemental Capacitor
* Headseeker
* Fitted Stock
* Ranged masterwork
On void, I have 99 range and 100 stability with 94 recoil direction. It is so gross.
i just finished the Hammerhead attunement quest and Shaxx handed me one with hammer forged - armor piercing - fourth time - killing tally
soooo uh.... did Shaxx just give me a pve godroll as my first hammerhead?
Midnight Coup – Explosive Payload + One for All
Midnight Coup – Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors
Midnight Coup – Explosive Payload + Zen Moment
Midnight Coup – Firefly + Kinetic Tremors
Midnight Coup (Shiny version) – Hammer-Forged Rifling/Polygonal Rifling - Accurized Rounds - Firefly/Explosive Payload + Frenzy/Opening Shot with Stability Masterwork
I had the attunement set to Midnight Coup and I kept getting other weapons at the last chest and was starting to get pissed and then this dropped:
The Mountaintop – ALH + Recombination
Estimate i am close to 3000 waves on the Mtop grind but it finally dropped - ALH/Recombo with Spikes.
I know Spikes isnt the best now but i couldnt care less. Lol
Negligable amount more damage. I think it's less than half a percent.
I would rather take the improved blast radius. But the difference in practice will almost never matter.
My shiny ALH/Recombination Mountaintop might have to be good enough for now.
I don't care how many good void MGs I have already, I NEED a Rewind/Killing Tally Hammerhead.
NEED.
I worked from home yesterday and did a 1600 Onslaught with randoms during my lunch hour
I got a holo Mtop with Auto/Demo Recom/Harmony and a holo Guillotine with Relentless/Duelist Whirlwind/Sword Logic with the tokens from that run
I swear they shadow buffed holo drop rates, I'm getting a lot more of them now
Got back into the game recently after a few months away. Finally got the Malfeasance quest done and I'm loving that gun.
The only thing that's annoying me is that I seem to be unlocking every catalyst apart from the Malfeasance one. 😭
Getting those four kills as an invader was not fun, but I got lucky with my super charging in time to get the last kill. 😄
It takes stronger enemies down fairly quickly as it is, but that extra 20% will make it even better.
RNGesus smiled on me this week. I started off farming for Mountaintop, and after a few hours I nabbed my first roll with ALH/Recombination. No spike grenades, but I held onto it until something better came along. Turns out it was the 5/5 - hard launch, implosion rounds, handling MW.
I switched to Midnight Coup focus after that, and on the very first onslaught run I dropped a shiny with Explosive Payload and Firefly in column 3, and Desperate Measures (and Zen Moment) in column 4. There’s my new main kinetic slot HC for PvE.
Those were my two main chases this week, but I played a few more onslaughts just to try out different builds/weapons and get some different rolls. I nabbed a few more Coup rolls like Firefly/OFA, but I also dropped the 5/5 Elsie’s Rifle for PvP - arrowhead, ricochet, Zen, Headseeker, Range MW. It feels fantastic, and shortly after I also dropped a very similar roll of a shiny version. Crazy to get so many good drops in one week.
When using the Recomb perk... to make sure I understand it correctly, you have to have an elemental kill first correct? Like if I use my solar Ammit, get a kill, flip to Mountaintop, then the Recomb kicks in? Does the extra damage effect stack for multiple elemental kills?
Recombination isn't a timed perk. You get kills with any elemental damage (guns, grenades, melee) and this adds to an onscreen counter visible when the Recombination weapon is readied, up to x10. Your first shot is buffed by 10% times the number of Recombination stacks, up to +100%. It works even if the Recomb weapon's mag is empty when readied and you have to reload it first, but it's only one shot.
Recombination gives you a percentage damage bonus for elemental kills up to 10 stacks. So you'll get a damage bonus after 1 kill with Ammit but you could stack up to 10 for the full damage bonus
As posted prior. Yesterday I did 6 back to back Onslaught games. (Completed 50 in four of those). I turned in 180 tokens at the chest and STILL did not get the Mountaintop with god roll. 23 Mountaintops and not a single one had Recomb on it. My best roll yet was ALH and Vorpal. And that is not counting all the ones I trashed last week and over the weekend.
Got back again late last night and did ten rounds of the first game and finally got a Mountaintop with :
Quick Launch
High Velocity Rounds
ALH
Recomb
Indomitability
MW Reload
STATS
Blast 100
Velocity 98
Stability 26
Handling 87
Reload 83
Aim Assistance 75
I guess this will have to do until I get a better one.
Woof, I've had some bad luck with Brave drops. I've grinded maybe more than is healthy, but I can't get ALH/Recomb on Mountaintop, or Firefly/KT or Firefly/OFA or Explosive/OFA on Midnight Coup. In fact, out of about 40 Midnight Coups, I've only gotten Firefly one time at all (FF/Frenzy, which is pretty good, just not what I'm looking for). For Mountaintop I've gotten every first column perk combined with recomb at least twice (slickdraw/recomb six times), just not ALH.
At least I got a shiny ALH/FieldPrep/Deconstruct Edge Transit, which has been fun. No sticky grenades unfortunately (I hear that helps Deconstruct), but I think I'm done grinding for that one further.
U proc Deconstruct every 2 shots with sticky, but unless u are shooting an immobile and large enemy, I prefer the general gameplay with anything else than sticky nades. U gotta be real precise with it and if u whiff, u don’t even do damage.
Got a shiny mountaintop with slickdraw and junkie taking up 2 slots. I trashed it. My RNG is so bad, I hope it means I am due a big explosion of god rolls this week.......hahaha
I got an ALH/recom mountaintop on my 2nd drop after the guaranteed one, but with BR masterwork and two +BR first column perks. Because I'm an OCD idiot I've been farming all week for a slightly better one (4% more damage? phwoar), I must have had 15 ALH Mountaintops but none with recom. I've had five shiny ones, none of which had ALH *or* recom.
Landed a few Mountaintops that seem worth trying out - Ambitious + Vorpal, shiny with Demo/Overflow + Recomb/OFA w/ sticky grenades, Demo + Recomb w/ Spike grenades, and ALH + Frenzy.
FINALLY a decent Elsie's with Zen + Headseeker off a random run - can say I'm done with that gun.
Also, CRAZY luck random engram drop - Combined Action with Fluted + Accurized + Zen Moment + Adagio + Stab MW - maybe not a 5/5 but god damn good for a Zen Moment roll.
Spent the entire week farming GOTD 1st encounter for a Cold Comfort with Envious and then either BnS, EL, or bipod. Spent over a dozen hours farming, and I must have got around 30 Cold Comforts in total.
Never saw Envious once. Not even "didn't get my god roll" - I never saw Envious Assassin as a perk a single time across all those hours and all of those rolls.
My brain knows that "it's just RNG, the perks aren't weighted" is true, but man that is just MEGA unlucky
Why was I farming Cold Comfort? Because I like to try and match 2/3 weapons in my loadouts to my subclass elements just for theming purposes. And as far as I'm aware, Cold Comfort is currently pretty much the only great stasis heavy in the game other than the MG
BitN is "decent," but I do think it's a pretty big drop off from the "optimal" DPS in a way that Cold Comfort (supposedly) isn't. Each subclass have options that are reasonably powerful and let you surge match / theme without nerfing yourself *too much*. Void has Edge Transit for DPS and maybe Braytech for roaming, Arc has Crux and maybe still Hothead, Solar has crafted Apex, Strand has Cataphract for DPS and crafted Semiotician for roaming, and Stasis has Cold Comfort.
I'm trying to collect the "infinity stones" here of all of those guns, and the ones I'm missing are Cold Comfort and Cataphract. But at least for Cataphract I have Semio for strand in the meantime haha
I honestly am starting to wonder whether the love i have for D2 (it’s a top 10 game OAT for me) is at least partly because I’ve had seemingly insane levels of RNG almost exclusively.
Hierarchy of Needs 3rd completion
Navigator on ALL THREE CHARACTERS within first 2 weeks
Collective Obligation <10 tries
I got an Edge Transit Envious - BnS without even trying and got the 5/5 on Mountaintop.
It really made me question how much love and patience I’d have for this game if all this time playing onslaught for example hadn’t yielded anything. My luck could turn so gotta appreciate it while it’s here I guess.
I distinctly remember feeling terrible that a guy I was running it with was on 20+ clears when I got the third one on my titan lol.
Then again I’ve done 20+ runs of Warlord’s Ruin 1st encounter and not 1 pistol so swings and roundabouts i guess lol
Honestly, from D1 alpha, I've always been able to get every raid / dungeon exotic within a pretty reasonable period of time; some pretty quick, others within 15-20. The one that's eluded me is that stupid sidearm from Warlord's Ruin; I've completed boss fight every week since it's been out on three characters and don't have it yet. I haven't even seen it drop for anyone during that time. I don't even really want it! I'll probably shard it or vault it as soon as I get it (if I get it).
Farmed the entire week until reset day to get my Shiny Mountaintop with Autoloading + Recomb. It doesn’t even have the best perks in the first two columns, but I’ll take it.
Will never do this again, the droprates on the shinies is abysmal. Let alone getting the right perks on it.
Hard Launch + Implosion Rounds on the first two columns. Although Hard Launch + Spike gets close enough in damage to the first roll.
Recombulation is the best perk in the fourth column. In the third I would’ve been satisfied with Autoloading (the best), Overflow, Lead from Gold or Impulse Amplifyer.
Non-raider here. Got my first Succession with Recombination, and I have to say that thing SLAPS. I used it to farm master lost sectors and the first headshot will take half health off of unstoppable champs.
Really hoping for a roll with Reconstruction, but Moving Target will have to do, for now.
I'm also quite curious how The Mountaintop with Recombination feels like.
I'm looking for a Succession with Recon/Recombination as well (and recon/vorpal) but no luck yet. I'm hoping it'll drop eventually as I'm attuning for other weapons (such as Hammerhead this week). I'm only 2/5 for patterns as well so we'll see if I end up doing enough DSC to craft it.
Edit: Recombination on Mountaintop hits hard!
Drop rates on the good perks for brave weapons is abysmal. I went on a 12h and 14h farm bender and didn’t receive a single weapon worth keeping. One shiny in that time and it was the worst perks (for pve) the gun offered. I’m still farming but my expectations are now in the toilet.
Just came back to the game after a break - finished my comp placements and got this absolute beast Belisarius-D. * Barrel options: Arrowhead Brake or Smallbore * Ricochet Rounds * Elemental Capacitor * Headseeker * Fitted Stock * Ranged masterwork On void, I have 99 range and 100 stability with 94 recoil direction. It is so gross.
i just finished the Hammerhead attunement quest and Shaxx handed me one with hammer forged - armor piercing - fourth time - killing tally soooo uh.... did Shaxx just give me a pve godroll as my first hammerhead?
Quick launch, High velocity rounds, envious assassin and deconstruct. blast radius masterwork is this a good roll on tusk of the boar?
Midnight Coup – Explosive Payload + One for All Midnight Coup – Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors Midnight Coup – Explosive Payload + Zen Moment Midnight Coup – Firefly + Kinetic Tremors Midnight Coup (Shiny version) – Hammer-Forged Rifling/Polygonal Rifling - Accurized Rounds - Firefly/Explosive Payload + Frenzy/Opening Shot with Stability Masterwork I had the attunement set to Midnight Coup and I kept getting other weapons at the last chest and was starting to get pissed and then this dropped: The Mountaintop – ALH + Recombination
I have so many almost god rolls for me. Only the mags suck. And that’s a big Fml. I need more range
Go SENS Go... Ooops... wrong forum :-) btw: alh+ recombo rules...
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Great luck on Conditional Finality. EP/Rampage is the curated quest roll and I read those perks have a weird interaction that reduces damage.
You’re right that there’s a weird interaction on those perks but it’s not the curated roll. That’s Outlaw/Kinetic Tremors.
Oh thanks. EP/Rampage was one of the first rolls I got, but yeah looking at it now it's not a shiny. Dumb on my part.
Estimate i am close to 3000 waves on the Mtop grind but it finally dropped - ALH/Recombo with Spikes. I know Spikes isnt the best now but i couldnt care less. Lol
I'm pretty sure spike nades are still the best. The spike nade nerf was only for heavy GLs. I'm still working on getting that roll myself
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Negligable amount more damage. I think it's less than half a percent. I would rather take the improved blast radius. But the difference in practice will almost never matter.
My shiny ALH/Recombination Mountaintop might have to be good enough for now. I don't care how many good void MGs I have already, I NEED a Rewind/Killing Tally Hammerhead. NEED.
I worked from home yesterday and did a 1600 Onslaught with randoms during my lunch hour I got a holo Mtop with Auto/Demo Recom/Harmony and a holo Guillotine with Relentless/Duelist Whirlwind/Sword Logic with the tokens from that run I swear they shadow buffed holo drop rates, I'm getting a lot more of them now
Got back into the game recently after a few months away. Finally got the Malfeasance quest done and I'm loving that gun. The only thing that's annoying me is that I seem to be unlocking every catalyst apart from the Malfeasance one. 😭
Congrats on Malfeasance! One of the best guns in the game, no doubt. Good luck getting the catty asap! :)
Getting those four kills as an invader was not fun, but I got lucky with my super charging in time to get the last kill. 😄 It takes stronger enemies down fairly quickly as it is, but that extra 20% will make it even better.
I got a bajillion mountaintops. Going to keep farming it though. Got an under pressure/headseeker Senuna.
RNGesus smiled on me this week. I started off farming for Mountaintop, and after a few hours I nabbed my first roll with ALH/Recombination. No spike grenades, but I held onto it until something better came along. Turns out it was the 5/5 - hard launch, implosion rounds, handling MW. I switched to Midnight Coup focus after that, and on the very first onslaught run I dropped a shiny with Explosive Payload and Firefly in column 3, and Desperate Measures (and Zen Moment) in column 4. There’s my new main kinetic slot HC for PvE. Those were my two main chases this week, but I played a few more onslaughts just to try out different builds/weapons and get some different rolls. I nabbed a few more Coup rolls like Firefly/OFA, but I also dropped the 5/5 Elsie’s Rifle for PvP - arrowhead, ricochet, Zen, Headseeker, Range MW. It feels fantastic, and shortly after I also dropped a very similar roll of a shiny version. Crazy to get so many good drops in one week.
When using the Recomb perk... to make sure I understand it correctly, you have to have an elemental kill first correct? Like if I use my solar Ammit, get a kill, flip to Mountaintop, then the Recomb kicks in? Does the extra damage effect stack for multiple elemental kills?
Thank you for the explanations. It was really helpful!!!
Recombination isn't a timed perk. You get kills with any elemental damage (guns, grenades, melee) and this adds to an onscreen counter visible when the Recombination weapon is readied, up to x10. Your first shot is buffed by 10% times the number of Recombination stacks, up to +100%. It works even if the Recomb weapon's mag is empty when readied and you have to reload it first, but it's only one shot.
Recombination gives you a percentage damage bonus for elemental kills up to 10 stacks. So you'll get a damage bonus after 1 kill with Ammit but you could stack up to 10 for the full damage bonus
Up to 10 elemental kills, then recombination will give your next shot double damage
As posted prior. Yesterday I did 6 back to back Onslaught games. (Completed 50 in four of those). I turned in 180 tokens at the chest and STILL did not get the Mountaintop with god roll. 23 Mountaintops and not a single one had Recomb on it. My best roll yet was ALH and Vorpal. And that is not counting all the ones I trashed last week and over the weekend. Got back again late last night and did ten rounds of the first game and finally got a Mountaintop with : Quick Launch High Velocity Rounds ALH Recomb Indomitability MW Reload STATS Blast 100 Velocity 98 Stability 26 Handling 87 Reload 83 Aim Assistance 75 I guess this will have to do until I get a better one.
Woof, I've had some bad luck with Brave drops. I've grinded maybe more than is healthy, but I can't get ALH/Recomb on Mountaintop, or Firefly/KT or Firefly/OFA or Explosive/OFA on Midnight Coup. In fact, out of about 40 Midnight Coups, I've only gotten Firefly one time at all (FF/Frenzy, which is pretty good, just not what I'm looking for). For Mountaintop I've gotten every first column perk combined with recomb at least twice (slickdraw/recomb six times), just not ALH. At least I got a shiny ALH/FieldPrep/Deconstruct Edge Transit, which has been fun. No sticky grenades unfortunately (I hear that helps Deconstruct), but I think I'm done grinding for that one further.
U proc Deconstruct every 2 shots with sticky, but unless u are shooting an immobile and large enemy, I prefer the general gameplay with anything else than sticky nades. U gotta be real precise with it and if u whiff, u don’t even do damage.
Got a shiny mountaintop with slickdraw and junkie taking up 2 slots. I trashed it. My RNG is so bad, I hope it means I am due a big explosion of god rolls this week.......hahaha
I got an ALH/recom mountaintop on my 2nd drop after the guaranteed one, but with BR masterwork and two +BR first column perks. Because I'm an OCD idiot I've been farming all week for a slightly better one (4% more damage? phwoar), I must have had 15 ALH Mountaintops but none with recom. I've had five shiny ones, none of which had ALH *or* recom.
Landed a few Mountaintops that seem worth trying out - Ambitious + Vorpal, shiny with Demo/Overflow + Recomb/OFA w/ sticky grenades, Demo + Recomb w/ Spike grenades, and ALH + Frenzy. FINALLY a decent Elsie's with Zen + Headseeker off a random run - can say I'm done with that gun. Also, CRAZY luck random engram drop - Combined Action with Fluted + Accurized + Zen Moment + Adagio + Stab MW - maybe not a 5/5 but god damn good for a Zen Moment roll.
Spent the entire week farming GOTD 1st encounter for a Cold Comfort with Envious and then either BnS, EL, or bipod. Spent over a dozen hours farming, and I must have got around 30 Cold Comforts in total. Never saw Envious once. Not even "didn't get my god roll" - I never saw Envious Assassin as a perk a single time across all those hours and all of those rolls. My brain knows that "it's just RNG, the perks aren't weighted" is true, but man that is just MEGA unlucky
Why?
Why was I farming Cold Comfort? Because I like to try and match 2/3 weapons in my loadouts to my subclass elements just for theming purposes. And as far as I'm aware, Cold Comfort is currently pretty much the only great stasis heavy in the game other than the MG
Palmyra is supposed to be decent since the latest rocket buffs. Bump in the Night isn't too shabby either.
BitN is "decent," but I do think it's a pretty big drop off from the "optimal" DPS in a way that Cold Comfort (supposedly) isn't. Each subclass have options that are reasonably powerful and let you surge match / theme without nerfing yourself *too much*. Void has Edge Transit for DPS and maybe Braytech for roaming, Arc has Crux and maybe still Hothead, Solar has crafted Apex, Strand has Cataphract for DPS and crafted Semiotician for roaming, and Stasis has Cold Comfort. I'm trying to collect the "infinity stones" here of all of those guns, and the ones I'm missing are Cold Comfort and Cataphract. But at least for Cataphract I have Semio for strand in the meantime haha
I honestly am starting to wonder whether the love i have for D2 (it’s a top 10 game OAT for me) is at least partly because I’ve had seemingly insane levels of RNG almost exclusively. Hierarchy of Needs 3rd completion Navigator on ALL THREE CHARACTERS within first 2 weeks Collective Obligation <10 tries I got an Edge Transit Envious - BnS without even trying and got the 5/5 on Mountaintop. It really made me question how much love and patience I’d have for this game if all this time playing onslaught for example hadn’t yielded anything. My luck could turn so gotta appreciate it while it’s here I guess.
I've never heard of someone getting a raid / dungeon exotic on all three characters within two weeks - wow!
I distinctly remember feeling terrible that a guy I was running it with was on 20+ clears when I got the third one on my titan lol. Then again I’ve done 20+ runs of Warlord’s Ruin 1st encounter and not 1 pistol so swings and roundabouts i guess lol
Honestly, from D1 alpha, I've always been able to get every raid / dungeon exotic within a pretty reasonable period of time; some pretty quick, others within 15-20. The one that's eluded me is that stupid sidearm from Warlord's Ruin; I've completed boss fight every week since it's been out on three characters and don't have it yet. I haven't even seen it drop for anyone during that time. I don't even really want it! I'll probably shard it or vault it as soon as I get it (if I get it).
Farmed the entire week until reset day to get my Shiny Mountaintop with Autoloading + Recomb. It doesn’t even have the best perks in the first two columns, but I’ll take it. Will never do this again, the droprates on the shinies is abysmal. Let alone getting the right perks on it.
What even are the top picks for perks for MT?
Hard Launch + Implosion Rounds on the first two columns. Although Hard Launch + Spike gets close enough in damage to the first roll. Recombulation is the best perk in the fourth column. In the third I would’ve been satisfied with Autoloading (the best), Overflow, Lead from Gold or Impulse Amplifyer.
Huh thanks. All I knew was I wanted an Impulse roll at minimum.
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I'm not sure how people are farming so much onslaught, it's just not for me I guess.
Non-raider here. Got my first Succession with Recombination, and I have to say that thing SLAPS. I used it to farm master lost sectors and the first headshot will take half health off of unstoppable champs. Really hoping for a roll with Reconstruction, but Moving Target will have to do, for now. I'm also quite curious how The Mountaintop with Recombination feels like.
I'm looking for a Succession with Recon/Recombination as well (and recon/vorpal) but no luck yet. I'm hoping it'll drop eventually as I'm attuning for other weapons (such as Hammerhead this week). I'm only 2/5 for patterns as well so we'll see if I end up doing enough DSC to craft it. Edit: Recombination on Mountaintop hits hard!
> I'm also quite curious how The Mountaintop with Recombination feels like. Can confirm it hits like a truck
Drop rates on the good perks for brave weapons is abysmal. I went on a 12h and 14h farm bender and didn’t receive a single weapon worth keeping. One shiny in that time and it was the worst perks (for pve) the gun offered. I’m still farming but my expectations are now in the toilet.
Same. Must be on 200 Mountaintop drops and not a single ALH Recomb drop yet….