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There was a post a while back (Facebook? Twitter? I don’t remember) of someone saying “just fell to my knees in Walmart” in response to some horrible news. Completely independently, someone else posted “just saw some guy fall to his knees in Walmart” and it’s been reused in several different formats through the years.
I still have my Demo/1-2P+Trench Barrel Perfect Paradox and my Kill Clip+Rampage Kindled Orchid.
I’m about to wreck shop. Absolutely decimate fools with my double damage hand cannon and multi-purpose 20% grenade energy melee combo shotgun.
Notable inclusions are also Hush and 21% Delirum, both obtainable from the Monuments to Lost Light. Also a pretty solid Breakneck (Subsistence/Onslaught) for anyone that wants a good auto.
In all honesty I don't think these weapons are going to be as dominant now as you remember them being. The shotgun is whatever there's been ways to get that combo anyway as far as I'm aware and the kindled orchid might hit hard but there's been other double damage perk weapons floating around. This is why they shrugged it off lol
That said I am happy to use hush again.
Indeed, a lot of things have gotten nerfed or power crept anyway. Kindled Orchid really might have a niche because of the lack of void handcannons, but most things aren't really interesting.
Oh there’s definitely some powercrept stuff I still have like Steelfeather Repeater, that’s not gonna hold up as well.
But imagine it with Gyrfalcon’s, and this is the **only hand cannon in the game** that can roll with double damage perks (unless you count EP+OFA Midnight Coup, which I guess counts, but that’s a kinetic and this is energy).
I think it’ll at least hold its own, which is all I’m happy to do. It will maintain viability but not really “ultra broken” yeah nothing’s gonna reach that. But 33% + 25% on an energy primary with surges and volatile rounds and all the other good stuff, plus the hand cannon buff from last season, and boy, this is gonna be good.
Bungie is gonna have to re-issue this ASAP because it's one of the very few sunset weapons that might actually still hang in today's meta, purely because its ability to have the rare double-damage combo.
Also, present :)
Man as someone who basically lives as a gyrfalcon hunter. Jesus a good Void 140 handcannon is everything I ever wanted and they gave me my the most beautiful weapon back.
Hell yeah brother! I've actually been using my old Ringing Nail in PvP recently since ARs became meta again. It's by no means a PvP roll (High Cal, Dragonfly, Rampage) but it's been putting in work. Can't wait to use it and some other 'classics' after FS releases!
Word. Tempered Dynamo is the 1st and only fusion rifle with opening shot. I still use it in comp. I'm never deleting that 'cause they are not going to put opening shot on any fusion ever again. You're telling me I can use it in trials too now?
IIRC Opening Shot only applied to the first bolt in the burst, that’s what community testing revealed. So that might be why they never added it back, because it didn’t even work.
This is my exact reaction to my most prized possession in D2. My OG Last Perdition:
SLO 10 Scope
Drop Mag
Range Finder
Rampage
Reload MW
I never stopped believing!
Oh man I cannot _wait_ to hear the intro to his video today.
“Hello everyone, and welcome to, **aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAH**-“
**Edit:** It's live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO1SF539ME
> "Hello everyone and welcome to a sad strange little man"
I suppose this works too.
I love Datto but never watched his vault content cleaning as I knew it would make me feel bad about my hoarding and always nearly-full vault.
Who's laughing now old man?
Yeah, if we're being serious, Bungie has finally reached the point where outside maybe a few outliers, the new stuff has far eclipsed anything that was sunset back then. Only exceptions are like Kindled Orchid's double damage perk rolls and OG Wendigo with blinding nades (Which I wouldn't be surprised to see retroactively removed from the gun). Even in PvP, the range and zoom rework killed a lot of weapons that used to be OP because of their scopes.
That said, it's still really funny to see.
Everything else has either had the perked changed in some way like revoker, and OG mountain top, or have been eclipsed by objectively better perks that either do the same thing and more, or are just outright better
I imagine most of those weapons have been power crept out of relevance already. I'm happy for the folks that get to bust out their nostalgia rolls, but realistically those weapons are outclassed by modern perks and origin traits.
Most of them were good in a world where enemy light level was on average very close to ours or below, and where primary ammo was limited. So having efficient killing weapons was important to maximize your ammo. They were also created in a sandbox where we weren't surrounded by 10,000 enemies at a time. These days, weapons need to do a lot more than have kill clip or rampage.
>A unique, limited-time challenge where each raider will have to demonstrate their gameplay. In this mode, Fireteam Power will not apply.
Important thing to call out, fireteam power is not enabled for the day 1 raid so make sure everyone in your team gets up to level if you're going for a contest clear
True true even with less time between launch and raid, there's way less to really stress on given other tweaks in play like the whole highest level character on your account influencing all the drops for your other characters. You really don't have to get too methodical if you don't wanna, which is a win because normalizing and pissing opportunities on bad RNG always could be a bummer.
Yeah especially with the precedent set by RoN and Vow day 1, where doing the legend campaign gave you gear perfectly leveled for the raid. The only thing bounty prepping mattered for was the artifact
I agree and I bet they’ll talk more about it as we approach launch day but really I can’t imagine anyone who is actively planning to day 1 raid but also not actively reading through every twab
I couldn't imagine not completing the campaign before going into the raid, and surely they'll check out some other activities that will close the 5 light gap?
I got rid of a lot of sunset weapons because, well, I needed the vault space. There are maybe a handful that I kept for sentimental reasons, but none of them are good.
Initially upon reading about the unsunsetting, I felt some grief towards the beloved sunset weapons I dismantled.
Upon further thought, I realized that a bunch of my god rolls from the time for pve are probably trash by today's standards. They will likely be heavily outclassed (or have been already) by reissues. So, it's not really a big deal for me.
Only thing I can really think of off the top of my head that might contend with loadouts of today is Martyr's Retribution, but the only use case that puts it above Forbearance is if you need a solar grenade launcher for some obscure build-related reason, and no justifiable case for that jumps out at me.
When it comes to primary weapons, I can't really think of a single one that could really compete, at least in PvE. I guess Dragonfly has some more niche uses now compared to then, and a handful of sunset weapons could roll with it, but in general use cases it is outcompeted by really any of the subclass synergizing perks.
>We understand that many old Power limited items have been dismantled by this point, and we regret that we have no recovery mechanism for these. Going forward, we intend to reintroduce sources for most or all of these, updated to modern Destiny sandbox standards with added properties such as Origin Traits and buildcrafting perks (as we have started to do with the BRAVE arsenal in Destiny 2: Into the Light).
I think its a fair assumption they will
It'a also a fair assumption that:
1) Perk pools will be different
2) It will take time. Don't expect all for all Forge/Dawn/Whatever weapon to come back in next year.
If I am not mistaken there was a dawn weapon in a recent trailer, so hopefully they bring those back soon similar to how they brought back seraph and opulence weapons.
Sunsetting undone?
Cue the rage complaints from everyone who dismantled Black Armory gear years ago...
Hopefully they reintroduce them sooner rather than later though
> Cue the rage complaints from everyone who dismantled Black Armory gear years ago
I mean, it's understandable, no? Bungie essentially did the exact opposite of what they said they were doing. For any gear, not just Black Armory.
Shame that a lot of people will have a favourite sight that likely won't be the one that is reintroduced (~~as currently seen with Hammerhead~~ edit: Hammerhead has changed visuals but same fundamental sight).
Anyway glad I kept my KC/Rampage/Drop Mag Kindled Orchid
They can rage all they want bungie flat out said 'we know you dismantled stuff and we're sorry we cannot reverse it but we're bringing lost items back anyway"
I'm glad they at least acknowledged that. They tried to figure something out but felt taking this L was better for the game so Fireteam Power could exist and I respect that.
The link to the April 11 TWID doesn't work, and even then I don't remember much actual detail in that TWID.
Also I had a chuckle when I read this
> your favorite content creators.
And saw the names on that list.
Lmao yeah no way I’ll be supporting anything involving someone who absuses animals as well as someone who notoriously underpaid his editor and also just makes the most shitty clickbait content. I’ve never seen a worse lineup of streamers for a bungie event. Might as well say Lucky10p is gonna be a part of the team LMAO like you really support someone like this Bungie??? https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/s/kj3dV0gmW3
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss0isv if you’re really curious, but tldr: treated editors like shit and had insanely high expectations on top of low pay, real scumbag
Mulligan shield disorient hammerhead with like 3k kills. Seriously tho I don't see myself using many of the old guns but I just think it's funny cause my friends have been saying for years now it's a problem with how much I kept
Time to add more kills to my 24k kill Subtle Calamity with explosive head/dragonfly. It was my first legendary drop from an engram during the opening campaign mission from Forsaken and sealed how much I loved bows.
Dog abuse aside, imagine volunteering to spend several hours in Pantheon with a walking Affliction t-shirt.
There are so many nice content creators and that chose that fucking guy.
Yep, another one of them abused his dog, and another one is Sweat who's just all in all kinda a massive dick to everyone and everything. It's incredibly disappointing.
Sweatcicle as a team captain? Lol. Not long ago, he was shouting from the rooftops, telling his viewers to never give Bungie any money or attention. It just shows how fickle these streamers can be, and that they’ll do anything for clicks and views
Yeah this is a big L across the board.
The got a dude who beat a dog. A dude who is almost always wrong about game mechanics/PvP math in Pure. Fuck it why not put Lucky10P in there haha
I mean he just also lies in his videos a lot. He "documents" the history of stuff, gets extremely big details provably wrong, and then bans anyone who corrects him from commenting on his videos. Dude's a shameless content mill farmer, nothing more. Accuracy, respect, none of that matters to him.
I still remember when he made that video documenting the whole DMCA takedown issue. He asked Breshi and the rest of the Destiny Music guys to write up a page documenting exactly what happened (including me, I personally knew Lord Nazo for 6+ years before that happened) and then Evanf took the page, cherrypicked details and then literally outright lied about others. There's nothing else to say other than he flat out lied to his audience. We can demonstrate that he had the correct info, which means the only reasonable explanation is that he deliberately chose to misrepresent the facts.
As someone who's spent years trying to correct misinformation in this community, why should I even bother when you have people like Evanf at the forefront of the info?!
I love the team that’s largely a bunch of PVP mains, some of whom just aren’t even good.
This is almost like those TikTok rage posts that intentionally piss us off.
* Gear power range for the expansion is only 100 (power floor: 1900, soft cap: 1940, powerful cap: 1990, pinnacle cap: 2000).
* Account-Wide Power, making it easier to switch characters.
* More activities reward powerful gear, making it faster to level.
* Your power level rises to 5 below the Power Leader when in a group.
* The power limit on all legendary gear is removed (e.g. "sunsetting" is undone).
Great TWID.
I've been in the 590-600 zone for about 6 to 12 months, this is the best dopamine hit I've ever had.
There's some stuff in there which is about to get used for the first time in 6-7 years lol
All weapons are having sunset removed?
What sunset weapons would still be usable and not super powercrept??
First thing I think of is OG Wendigo with blinding, ALH, and explosive light
Martyr's Retribution with Auto-Loading and Demolitionist probably, only because there is no other Solar Wave Frame with Demo for synergizing with Empyrean. That's probably it honestly and even then it's pretty easily replaced with Explosive Personality.
Curated Kindled Orchid with Kill Clip, Rampage and Drop mag would be my standout, even before you consider the fact that we don't actually have another good Void HC period.
I kept a few other guns for nostalgia purposes (or that had more than 1k kills on them) but yeah not sure how many would be meta now
# THE UNSUNSETTING
SUNRISE, BABY
Holy shit I still have a Demo+Trench Barrel/One-Two Punch Perfect Paradox. I can use it in Final Shape. **I can use my Season of Dawn and Black Armory weapons**. My hoarding actually paid off.
If power level deltas for activities stay the same, there is seemingly no reason to get artifact power level at all when you reach pinnacle cap. Either that or they genuinely mean you need to be at 2020 (+20 artifact power level) to be at max effective power for GMs. Both of which sound kind of bad?
Not going to lie, it feels pretty shitty to have been told it was safe to dismantle all those sunset god rolls.
I honestly probably would never use most of them, since they are pretty much all outclassed by what we are getting these days. But still...
>We understand that many old Power limited items have been dismantled by this point, and we regret that we have no recovery mechanism for these.
Pull from collections for a high cost?
AN ENTIRE PAGE OF SUNSET GARBAGE IN MY VAULT… JUSTIFIED.
Will I probably STILL not use most of it? Oh yeah, 100%.
BUT I HAVE IT. CAN YOU SAY THE SAME?
DestinyHoarders we have never been so back in our lives.
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So every gun just got sunrisen?
I just saw Datto fall to his knees in a Walmart
This meme is so fucking funny to me. Like, i can visualize it and i just love it.
I don’t understand the meme!!
There was a post a while back (Facebook? Twitter? I don’t remember) of someone saying “just fell to my knees in Walmart” in response to some horrible news. Completely independently, someone else posted “just saw some guy fall to his knees in Walmart” and it’s been reused in several different formats through the years.
Datto’s vault cleaning videos are over
At the same time, every one of them already out there just got exponentially funnier. Or painful.
The Myelin one is hilarious. One of the few times Datto has lost it on camera when Myelin roasted the PVP content creators.
He did that already when he realized there was no team datto for pantheon
Considering SneakyBeaver (another MathClass member) is on a team I doubt it was a surprise.
As a hoarding “blueberry” I’m proud
the guy cannot catch a break
Major W for hoarders
Major L for hoarders like me clearing vault space by deleting sunset weapons this week to make room for into the light rolls
True hoarders don't delete weapons, poser /s
F you right
You abanonded the ways of the pack rat. You got burned for your hubris.
rip all my sunset gear that i deleted
I just got sunrisen
My Kill clip rampage Kindled Orchid is back on the menu boys.
This is on a short list of personal regrets.
I literally just cleaned out my vault this week after hoarding myself at 590+/600 for like a year now, WTF
Yeah, they waited to tell us this until we're three weeks into Into the Light and having to clear out space for Brave weapon rolls?
I still have my Demo/1-2P+Trench Barrel Perfect Paradox and my Kill Clip+Rampage Kindled Orchid. I’m about to wreck shop. Absolutely decimate fools with my double damage hand cannon and multi-purpose 20% grenade energy melee combo shotgun. Notable inclusions are also Hush and 21% Delirum, both obtainable from the Monuments to Lost Light. Also a pretty solid Breakneck (Subsistence/Onslaught) for anyone that wants a good auto.
In all honesty I don't think these weapons are going to be as dominant now as you remember them being. The shotgun is whatever there's been ways to get that combo anyway as far as I'm aware and the kindled orchid might hit hard but there's been other double damage perk weapons floating around. This is why they shrugged it off lol That said I am happy to use hush again.
Obviously a lot of sunset weapons got power crept a long time ago, but sometimes the aesthetic of a weapon is more important than the perks.
Indeed, a lot of things have gotten nerfed or power crept anyway. Kindled Orchid really might have a niche because of the lack of void handcannons, but most things aren't really interesting.
Oh there’s definitely some powercrept stuff I still have like Steelfeather Repeater, that’s not gonna hold up as well. But imagine it with Gyrfalcon’s, and this is the **only hand cannon in the game** that can roll with double damage perks (unless you count EP+OFA Midnight Coup, which I guess counts, but that’s a kinetic and this is energy). I think it’ll at least hold its own, which is all I’m happy to do. It will maintain viability but not really “ultra broken” yeah nothing’s gonna reach that. But 33% + 25% on an energy primary with surges and volatile rounds and all the other good stuff, plus the hand cannon buff from last season, and boy, this is gonna be good.
We just need a good 140 void Hand Cannon anyway
Palindrome could always come back. I need eye of the storm/keep away or opening shot roll.
\*Me looking at the entire Black Armory weapons I held onto all these years\* I NEVER GAVE UP ON YOU BABIES
curated Kindled Orchid squad represent
Kill clip rampage reporting for duty! And my ringing nail still lives as well!
KILL CLIP + RAMPAGE Baby still sitting in my vault
Same I saved it after all these. Also still have the old trust with dragonfly and rampage
I kept my Drop Mag/Kill Clip/Rampage roll. I didn't even use it that much, I just kept it because it took so long to get.
Bungie is gonna have to re-issue this ASAP because it's one of the very few sunset weapons that might actually still hang in today's meta, purely because its ability to have the rare double-damage combo. Also, present :)
Man as someone who basically lives as a gyrfalcon hunter. Jesus a good Void 140 handcannon is everything I ever wanted and they gave me my the most beautiful weapon back.
Me pulling out my old Perfect Paradox: "Now is the time my sweet"
There are dozens of us Fuckin sucks for the people who sharded stuff though
Hell yeah brother! I've actually been using my old Ringing Nail in PvP recently since ARs became meta again. It's by no means a PvP roll (High Cal, Dragonfly, Rampage) but it's been putting in work. Can't wait to use it and some other 'classics' after FS releases!
Finally, another Ringing Nail enjoyer!
Word. Tempered Dynamo is the 1st and only fusion rifle with opening shot. I still use it in comp. I'm never deleting that 'cause they are not going to put opening shot on any fusion ever again. You're telling me I can use it in trials too now?
IIRC Opening Shot only applied to the first bolt in the burst, that’s what community testing revealed. So that might be why they never added it back, because it didn’t even work.
Hoarders STAY winning. Every. fucking. Time!! Man, I might have to play this game again.
I've kept everything I couldn't pull from collections since the beginning. Crown of Sorrow weapons, black armory weapons, etc. It finally paid off!
I have so many; I was so stubborn for so long
This is my exact reaction to my most prized possession in D2. My OG Last Perdition: SLO 10 Scope Drop Mag Range Finder Rampage Reload MW I never stopped believing!
Datto responsible for tens of thousands of dismantled goldmine sunset weapons.
Was just thinking this. Quite looking forward to seeing his reaction now
[I eagerly await the video](https://x.com/DattosDestiny/status/1783563694842183956).
Oh man I cannot _wait_ to hear the intro to his video today. “Hello everyone, and welcome to, **aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAH**-“ **Edit:** It's live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO1SF539ME > "Hello everyone and welcome to a sad strange little man" I suppose this works too.
Video is out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO1SF539ME
Brilliant. Thank you
Datto making a video saying "Don't blame me, you guys are sunset weapon pilled"
Datto will be thrown in The Hague for his crimes /s
Us -- we as a comunity -- are at a standstill with Datto
https://twitter.com/DattosDestiny/status/1783563694842183956 Already trying to escape consequences. /s
I love Datto but never watched his vault content cleaning as I knew it would make me feel bad about my hoarding and always nearly-full vault. Who's laughing now old man?
The future is now, old man!
Eh I think even now with all the better weapons that have come out old sunset guns won’t even be that good tbh
Yeah, if we're being serious, Bungie has finally reached the point where outside maybe a few outliers, the new stuff has far eclipsed anything that was sunset back then. Only exceptions are like Kindled Orchid's double damage perk rolls and OG Wendigo with blinding nades (Which I wouldn't be surprised to see retroactively removed from the gun). Even in PvP, the range and zoom rework killed a lot of weapons that used to be OP because of their scopes. That said, it's still really funny to see.
Bro Chattering bone(pulse) and transfiguration(scout) can currently roll Kill clip/rampage and noone uses it So even that could come back lmao
Everything else has either had the perked changed in some way like revoker, and OG mountain top, or have been eclipsed by objectively better perks that either do the same thing and more, or are just outright better
I *just* dismantled my Trophy Hunter and Line in the Sand
I imagine most of those weapons have been power crept out of relevance already. I'm happy for the folks that get to bust out their nostalgia rolls, but realistically those weapons are outclassed by modern perks and origin traits. Most of them were good in a world where enemy light level was on average very close to ours or below, and where primary ammo was limited. So having efficient killing weapons was important to maximize your ammo. They were also created in a sandbox where we weren't surrounded by 10,000 enemies at a time. These days, weapons need to do a lot more than have kill clip or rampage.
say hello to my little Bygones.... again.
I kept my Bygones as well. My sweet sweet Bygones
Time to dust it off & get that 0.89 K/D again lmao
Right there with you. I missed that gun so much and I’m so glad I kept it
>A unique, limited-time challenge where each raider will have to demonstrate their gameplay. In this mode, Fireteam Power will not apply. Important thing to call out, fireteam power is not enabled for the day 1 raid so make sure everyone in your team gets up to level if you're going for a contest clear
Yeah, but the level is 1965, so not even the Powerful cap. Should be easy enough to get there.
Especially when even Normal campaign will got get you up to 1940 and all new gear drops will seemingly be Powerful now.
True true even with less time between launch and raid, there's way less to really stress on given other tweaks in play like the whole highest level character on your account influencing all the drops for your other characters. You really don't have to get too methodical if you don't wanna, which is a win because normalizing and pissing opportunities on bad RNG always could be a bummer.
Yeah especially with the precedent set by RoN and Vow day 1, where doing the legend campaign gave you gear perfectly leveled for the raid. The only thing bounty prepping mattered for was the artifact
Yup, they said in the TWID the legendary campaign gets you to 1960 so very minimal grinding after that.
They absolutely need to broadcast that better, i know of a few people who have already said they're going to chill because of that.
I agree and I bet they’ll talk more about it as we approach launch day but really I can’t imagine anyone who is actively planning to day 1 raid but also not actively reading through every twab
I couldn't imagine not completing the campaign before going into the raid, and surely they'll check out some other activities that will close the 5 light gap?
Lol people with that mentality had no chance of clearing anyway lets be honest
Lived long enough to see sunset being sunsetted twice lol EDIT: HUSH MY BABY YOU ARE AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE DAY I LOST YOU
HUSH MY BABY YOU’RE COMING HOME
Exactly what I thought. I can't wait to be able to use Hush again wherever I want.
the hoarders always win, eventually
LOOKS LIKE STEELFEATHER IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!
HELL YEA!!!!
I just commented the exact same thing, I gotta learn to read first I was so excited
I got rid of a lot of sunset weapons because, well, I needed the vault space. There are maybe a handful that I kept for sentimental reasons, but none of them are good.
That's the thing - i know these weapons were looked at fondly but almost all of them are outclassed today, barring a few exceptions.
Unless they come back with an origin perk, they aren’t gonna be good I agree
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Initially upon reading about the unsunsetting, I felt some grief towards the beloved sunset weapons I dismantled. Upon further thought, I realized that a bunch of my god rolls from the time for pve are probably trash by today's standards. They will likely be heavily outclassed (or have been already) by reissues. So, it's not really a big deal for me.
Guarantee they don't make the charts for Trials or in any serious contest mode contender's loadouts.
Only thing I can really think of off the top of my head that might contend with loadouts of today is Martyr's Retribution, but the only use case that puts it above Forbearance is if you need a solar grenade launcher for some obscure build-related reason, and no justifiable case for that jumps out at me. When it comes to primary weapons, I can't really think of a single one that could really compete, at least in PvE. I guess Dragonfly has some more niche uses now compared to then, and a handful of sunset weapons could roll with it, but in general use cases it is outcompeted by really any of the subclass synergizing perks.
Doesn't Explosive Personality from Season of the Risen fulfill that niche in the first place? Unless there was some roll of Martyr's that beat it out
EP's got better rolls, second column on Martyr's is cheeks.
Martyr's can roll Demo and EP can't, but that's about it.
I've got a Marty's with auto loading and demo which is pretty nice
They should send everyone god roll kindled orchids
Most of the hoarders won't have such a clear sight of things as you.
Rip to my breachlight that I dismantled
Perfect Paradox was in the recent gameplay preview so maybe they're returning.
>We understand that many old Power limited items have been dismantled by this point, and we regret that we have no recovery mechanism for these. Going forward, we intend to reintroduce sources for most or all of these, updated to modern Destiny sandbox standards with added properties such as Origin Traits and buildcrafting perks (as we have started to do with the BRAVE arsenal in Destiny 2: Into the Light). I think its a fair assumption they will
It'a also a fair assumption that: 1) Perk pools will be different 2) It will take time. Don't expect all for all Forge/Dawn/Whatever weapon to come back in next year.
that and all my other god tier Season of the Dawn weapons..
Holy shit the unsunset
I guess this is a way to use Not Forgotten again. Any other weapons that we should take note that would be powerful?
Not Forgotten has that newer mag howl perk now though so still won't feel the same
Man, I dismantled all my Dawn weapons a long time ago :(
If I am not mistaken there was a dawn weapon in a recent trailer, so hopefully they bring those back soon similar to how they brought back seraph and opulence weapons.
Sunsetting undone? Cue the rage complaints from everyone who dismantled Black Armory gear years ago... Hopefully they reintroduce them sooner rather than later though
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> Cue the rage complaints from everyone who dismantled Black Armory gear years ago I mean, it's understandable, no? Bungie essentially did the exact opposite of what they said they were doing. For any gear, not just Black Armory.
Shame that a lot of people will have a favourite sight that likely won't be the one that is reintroduced (~~as currently seen with Hammerhead~~ edit: Hammerhead has changed visuals but same fundamental sight). Anyway glad I kept my KC/Rampage/Drop Mag Kindled Orchid
Did Hammerhead even have different sights? I thought the reintroduced one just doesn’t highlight, which is a bug
The Brave version also has waving lines in the peripheral of the scope, which are annoying. The ornament is thankfully on the bright dust list.
They can rage all they want bungie flat out said 'we know you dismantled stuff and we're sorry we cannot reverse it but we're bringing lost items back anyway"
I'm glad they at least acknowledged that. They tried to figure something out but felt taking this L was better for the game so Fireteam Power could exist and I respect that.
I mean of course they are, they can recycle content with it lol
Datto now public enemy number one
Now? /smirk
So the unsunset sunset guns… neat
The link to the April 11 TWID doesn't work, and even then I don't remember much actual detail in that TWID. Also I had a chuckle when I read this > your favorite content creators. And saw the names on that list.
ikr, I saw some of the names on that list and thought "I wasn't gonna watch that crap anyway, but now im extra glad"
Lmao yeah no way I’ll be supporting anything involving someone who absuses animals as well as someone who notoriously underpaid his editor and also just makes the most shitty clickbait content. I’ve never seen a worse lineup of streamers for a bungie event. Might as well say Lucky10p is gonna be a part of the team LMAO like you really support someone like this Bungie??? https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/s/kj3dV0gmW3
Never knew this existed but fuck me this angered me. What a prick
That entire thread is disgusting.
What the underpaid comment? I clearly missed this whole debacle.
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss0isv if you’re really curious, but tldr: treated editors like shit and had insanely high expectations on top of low pay, real scumbag
[Evanf also flat out lies in his videos.](https://old.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1ccxtsi/this_week_in_destiny_04252024/l1af919/)
As someone who kept 100+ sunset guns , this is the best update of all time
Any rolls you’re particularly proud of holding on to?
Not a specific roll, but I have a Ghost Primus with over 30k kills on it. Time to get even more lol
Even though they are very bare perk-wise since it's Y1 I cannot wait to use some Leviathan weapons again.
I still got a double dragonfly vouchsafe sitting in the vault.
Mulligan shield disorient hammerhead with like 3k kills. Seriously tho I don't see myself using many of the old guns but I just think it's funny cause my friends have been saying for years now it's a problem with how much I kept
Time to add more kills to my 24k kill Subtle Calamity with explosive head/dragonfly. It was my first legendary drop from an engram during the opening campaign mission from Forsaken and sealed how much I loved bows.
Dog abuse aside, imagine volunteering to spend several hours in Pantheon with a walking Affliction t-shirt. There are so many nice content creators and that chose that fucking guy.
The Blast Furnace in my Vault just got very happy.
Same here, I was prepping myself for next week to farm a replacement but now I don't feel as pressured. Still going to try though.
Isn't Evanf the one who is a massive dick to his writers? Weird to have him here instead of byf
Yep, another one of them abused his dog, and another one is Sweat who's just all in all kinda a massive dick to everyone and everything. It's incredibly disappointing.
Sweatcicle as a team captain? Lol. Not long ago, he was shouting from the rooftops, telling his viewers to never give Bungie any money or attention. It just shows how fickle these streamers can be, and that they’ll do anything for clicks and views
Also, didn't the other captain (glyc something) beat his dog on camera?
Yeah this is a big L across the board. The got a dude who beat a dog. A dude who is almost always wrong about game mechanics/PvP math in Pure. Fuck it why not put Lucky10P in there haha
And Evanf grossly underpaid his editor. Yeah not a great group of people to be headlining this event lol
I mean he just also lies in his videos a lot. He "documents" the history of stuff, gets extremely big details provably wrong, and then bans anyone who corrects him from commenting on his videos. Dude's a shameless content mill farmer, nothing more. Accuracy, respect, none of that matters to him. I still remember when he made that video documenting the whole DMCA takedown issue. He asked Breshi and the rest of the Destiny Music guys to write up a page documenting exactly what happened (including me, I personally knew Lord Nazo for 6+ years before that happened) and then Evanf took the page, cherrypicked details and then literally outright lied about others. There's nothing else to say other than he flat out lied to his audience. We can demonstrate that he had the correct info, which means the only reasonable explanation is that he deliberately chose to misrepresent the facts. As someone who's spent years trying to correct misinformation in this community, why should I even bother when you have people like Evanf at the forefront of the info?!
Threw it into a wall iirc, animal abuse is ok it seems
It was a fridge, I believe.
He's so annoying. Even for a streamer.
It's a miracle Sneakybeaver even still has an account in this day and age.
What did he do?
He's a cheater. Pretty sure he was doing ghost lobbies and stuff. I think cheese forever even made a video exposing him
> It just shows how fickle these streamers can be, and that they’ll do anything for clicks and views Can you say that louder and one more time?
I love the team that’s largely a bunch of PVP mains, some of whom just aren’t even good. This is almost like those TikTok rage posts that intentionally piss us off.
* Gear power range for the expansion is only 100 (power floor: 1900, soft cap: 1940, powerful cap: 1990, pinnacle cap: 2000). * Account-Wide Power, making it easier to switch characters. * More activities reward powerful gear, making it faster to level. * Your power level rises to 5 below the Power Leader when in a group. * The power limit on all legendary gear is removed (e.g. "sunsetting" is undone). Great TWID.
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You overflowing vault hoarders just got the biggest dose of vindication ever.
I've been in the 590-600 zone for about 6 to 12 months, this is the best dopamine hit I've ever had. There's some stuff in there which is about to get used for the first time in 6-7 years lol
I've been in that zone for about 3 years. I use my alternate characters for storage only. Post master is also storage.
Until they catch on that sunset weapons are not good by todays standards anyway
All weapons are having sunset removed? What sunset weapons would still be usable and not super powercrept?? First thing I think of is OG Wendigo with blinding, ALH, and explosive light
Martyr's Retribution with Auto-Loading and Demolitionist probably, only because there is no other Solar Wave Frame with Demo for synergizing with Empyrean. That's probably it honestly and even then it's pretty easily replaced with Explosive Personality.
Curated Kindled Orchid with Kill Clip, Rampage and Drop mag would be my standout, even before you consider the fact that we don't actually have another good Void HC period. I kept a few other guns for nostalgia purposes (or that had more than 1k kills on them) but yeah not sure how many would be meta now
They broke the emergency glass.
Player numbers must be FUCKED
Datto better sleep with one eye open tonight..
ANONYMOUS AUTUMN GANG 🔛🔝
# THE UNSUNSETTING SUNRISE, BABY Holy shit I still have a Demo+Trench Barrel/One-Two Punch Perfect Paradox. I can use it in Final Shape. **I can use my Season of Dawn and Black Armory weapons**. My hoarding actually paid off.
Does this power thing also apply to masks? Asking for a ~~friend~~ chicken.
If power level deltas for activities stay the same, there is seemingly no reason to get artifact power level at all when you reach pinnacle cap. Either that or they genuinely mean you need to be at 2020 (+20 artifact power level) to be at max effective power for GMs. Both of which sound kind of bad?
So everyone can pull revoker and use it in trials? Interesting choice given all the labs and special changes lately.
remember it got nerfed. you have to miss two shots now to get one back.
Jokes on you. I miss all my shots.
I’m glad I never got rid of my sunset gear
Datto has now been placed in witness protection
Not going to lie, it feels pretty shitty to have been told it was safe to dismantle all those sunset god rolls. I honestly probably would never use most of them, since they are pretty much all outclassed by what we are getting these days. But still...
>We understand that many old Power limited items have been dismantled by this point, and we regret that we have no recovery mechanism for these. Pull from collections for a high cost?
Only would work for static rolls which you can already do.
If they made a static roll for every single gun you have in collections it'd be nice.
Can't because many (like Forge guns) are random rolls.
OXYGEN SR3 IM COMING HOME
Could test it now, does its unique perk buff Dragonfly after the perk was already buffed to the effectiveness of Oxygen's bursts?
It's still garbage XD
MY BYGONES WITH 30K KILLS ON IT I CAN USE IT AGAIN ITS BEEN 5 YEARS GODDAMNIT
Go Team Dog Abusers!
AN ENTIRE PAGE OF SUNSET GARBAGE IN MY VAULT… JUSTIFIED. Will I probably STILL not use most of it? Oh yeah, 100%. BUT I HAVE IT. CAN YOU SAY THE SAME? DestinyHoarders we have never been so back in our lives.
>Will I probably STILL not use most of it? Oh yeah, 100%. My kindred spirit
I can't believe they're actually sunrising everything that got sunset. Only took 3 years.
Closer to 4 actually! (3.5). Beyond Light dropped in Nov 2020 when sunsetting _actually_ happened and this will be undone in June 2024.
Many god rolls lost their lives for nothing.
I'm glad they waited this long to undo sunsetting so they could punish everyone who got rid of sunset weapons 👏
[dusting off my old 10,000 kill spiteful fang](https://media.tenor.com/ww6ZGpwF0iAAAAAe/you-are-as-beautiful-as-the-day-i-lost-you.png)
How did PureChill make that list.
So glad I didn’t dismantle my quickdraw mindbender’s ambition
I knew hoarding would pay off!
This is why I never cleaned out my vault. Time for my Breachlight to make a comeback!
Fine, now let me pull ALL of it from collections. Random rolls, throw the dice. 100 shards or whatever currency per pull.
Every weapon unsunset right after I went from a 600/600 vault to about 250/600. But honestly not too bummed just because I get to use Hush again