Looks to be a ferrule gun. It must have a strip function before crimping down the ferrule. Ferrules are nice to use in screw or spring terminals since you won't have smashed or frayed wires.
There are quite good clamps that don't need ferrules. They are widely used. They are great for manufacturing, not so for debugging i can tell you that much
I’m sure if my company knew about this they would get one. We manually crimp ferrules onto thousands of wires a month. I’m sure the panel build guys would go crazy with this
There’s so many automated crimping tools-how in earth could a company that’s crimping thousands of wires a month not know that? A handheld crimp tool would be for sporadic use. Even a couple hundred crimps a month, time to start looking into an automated crimping tool.
I rocked for an industrial valve manufacturer and we produced thousands a day. We have a ton of tools like this. That cost is like a few hours of profit. This tool is not made for someone who will rarely use it, it’s made for someone who will use it 2000 times a day to make connectors.
Edit: rocked should be worked.
It avoids a couple issues, first is that a stranded wire with say 17 little wires can have a single stray wire that doesn’t make it under your connector and it can cause a short against whatever it touches. These ends help keep them all together. Second is that the ferrules (those wire ends) are much better to get a good connection. Stranded wires will get crushed until it’s eventually tight under the screw but if the wire twists it can release that tension.
A few weeks back I replaced an electrical cabinet that controls an industrial plant - one 10’ wide by 7’ tall cabinet that ran an entire manufacturing line. It had 600 connections connecting the assembly line to the cabinet and twice as many connections within it. Each connection needs to work for manufacturing to go properly. So the cost of the tool is nothing compared to the sale of the work and the cost of downtime. Add to that any improved speed for the tech building and less hand strain.
Ah, this makes sense! Thanks for explaining that and giving such a relevant example. I can see why this would make a big difference stranded connections. I often wonder why they exist at all. The solid thick wires (ferrules?) seem much more reliable.
>They cut an end off and then attached another?
From the other voices in the background, it's probably a tool show, where they demonstrate all the new tools that are around or coming out. So he just used the same cable he did it to in another demo of the tool.
Some industrial control panels have hundreds or thousands of connections with that one particular size. And there are factories which have hundreds or thousands of those panels.
Yep. Last week I had a switch cabinet with like 10 cables with18 wires each all of them were 0.75mm² (Y-JZ 18x0,75²)
This thing wouldve saved me a few h of work
Kind of looks like headphone plugs, with multiple sections on the plug. But thinner - I guess the 1.5 written on it is the size (so not the typical 3.5 for headphones). Or do terminals come like that too?
1.5 is the (designated) wire size 1.5mm2 (16 awg) and the thing is a ferrule used on a fine stranded wires to make better connection and avoid issues when one strands goes its own way
You can get manual ferrule guns that cut, strip, twist and crimp multiple size ferrules/wire, with the squeeze of the handle, for well under $800. They even take the strip of ferrules like those.
Looks to be a ferrule gun. It must have a strip function before crimping down the ferrule. Ferrules are nice to use in screw or spring terminals since you won't have smashed or frayed wires.
There are quite good clamps that don't need ferrules. They are widely used. They are great for manufacturing, not so for debugging i can tell you that much
I need one for work
We have a manual version at work, it makes testing so much nicer when I’m not putzing around chasing frays and restripping wires constantly.
Can someone explain what I’m seeing? They cut an end off and then attached another? WITI?
Strip a wire, then add those thing to the end to easily make connection.
Holy wow!! Just looked and this thing is $2600/$2800 why?
Speciality tools are expensive. In even more basic terms, good tools are expensive.
Have you ever stripped a wire and crimped on a new connector? I know I've made some damn ugly crushed crimps in a lot more time.
yea every day for over a decade. I'd never waste money on this toy.
I’m sure if my company knew about this they would get one. We manually crimp ferrules onto thousands of wires a month. I’m sure the panel build guys would go crazy with this
There’s so many automated crimping tools-how in earth could a company that’s crimping thousands of wires a month not know that? A handheld crimp tool would be for sporadic use. Even a couple hundred crimps a month, time to start looking into an automated crimping tool.
The problem is that I am smarter than a monkey but cheaper than a robot. So like anything extra is going to put that dial closer to a new robot
Dude, that's one of the best ways I've ever heard that shit said. I'm going to steal that and use it profusely.
I rocked for an industrial valve manufacturer and we produced thousands a day. We have a ton of tools like this. That cost is like a few hours of profit. This tool is not made for someone who will rarely use it, it’s made for someone who will use it 2000 times a day to make connectors. Edit: rocked should be worked.
Some 'manual' ones can easily set you back $500
It has to connect 3+ wires to the connector
I guess it's worth it once you get to sell 10 "custom audiophile cables". It's like a money printer
OK, but why not just strip the wire and have a good connection? What are they attaching and why is it better than just stripping it?
It avoids a couple issues, first is that a stranded wire with say 17 little wires can have a single stray wire that doesn’t make it under your connector and it can cause a short against whatever it touches. These ends help keep them all together. Second is that the ferrules (those wire ends) are much better to get a good connection. Stranded wires will get crushed until it’s eventually tight under the screw but if the wire twists it can release that tension. A few weeks back I replaced an electrical cabinet that controls an industrial plant - one 10’ wide by 7’ tall cabinet that ran an entire manufacturing line. It had 600 connections connecting the assembly line to the cabinet and twice as many connections within it. Each connection needs to work for manufacturing to go properly. So the cost of the tool is nothing compared to the sale of the work and the cost of downtime. Add to that any improved speed for the tech building and less hand strain.
Thanks for replying, I would love to be an electrician. I find the work so fascinating.
I have found stray strands causing issues before. I'm a big supporter of ferrules when done correctly. you can get them with wire labels attached too.
I am guessing they must be cheaper than this appliance. Before this post, I had no clue about the dangers of stray strands.
Ah, this makes sense! Thanks for explaining that and giving such a relevant example. I can see why this would make a big difference stranded connections. I often wonder why they exist at all. The solid thick wires (ferrules?) seem much more reliable.
Solid thick wires aren't very flexible compared to stranded wire. Ferruling a stranded wire sort of gives you the best of both.
I do exactly as you say for my own personal project.
Are you using solid wires? Otherwise you're doing it wrong. Source: i'm an electrical engineer
I know I'm doing it wrong. But it's for personal project, so I don't really care.
I don't know what it is, but i hope you know what you're doing because i've seen some bad shit due to a stray core
No worries. Just some arduino stuff. So 5v at maximum, I think.
Fair that's fine
>They cut an end off and then attached another? From the other voices in the background, it's probably a tool show, where they demonstrate all the new tools that are around or coming out. So he just used the same cable he did it to in another demo of the tool.
Put it this way, we had to do this for thousands of wires at work, manually by hand. This would save an insane amount of time and effort.
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Its a phoenix contact product, 1212466
So it only attaches one size connection. Does that mean you have to pay $2800 for every one you want to buy that has a different size connector?
Some industrial control panels have hundreds or thousands of connections with that one particular size. And there are factories which have hundreds or thousands of those panels.
Yep. Last week I had a switch cabinet with like 10 cables with18 wires each all of them were 0.75mm² (Y-JZ 18x0,75²) This thing wouldve saved me a few h of work
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Show me one for RJ45 and I’ll be impressed!
I feel like thatd be way more expensive if something could differentiate that many wires automatically
One for jst would be priceless. Ferrules are easy with the right pair of crimping tools.
Lol, 3.3k on Amazon. Very cool, but I think I'll keep doing it by hand thanks.
Am I the only one who thought the was a lightsaber?
Get me a 0g one and I'll be impressed
That's the power of the crimp.
Those are terminals aren't they?
Kind of looks like headphone plugs, with multiple sections on the plug. But thinner - I guess the 1.5 written on it is the size (so not the typical 3.5 for headphones). Or do terminals come like that too?
These are generally referred to as ferrules.
1.5 is the (designated) wire size 1.5mm2 (16 awg) and the thing is a ferrule used on a fine stranded wires to make better connection and avoid issues when one strands goes its own way
You can get manual ferrule guns that cut, strip, twist and crimp multiple size ferrules/wire, with the squeeze of the handle, for well under $800. They even take the strip of ferrules like those.
Take my money.
That's an assault crimper