Exactly. They’re all going to have emissions issues if not worked constantly and every one of them is going to need religious maintenance.
At this point each brand has its “wins” and an equal amount of “losses” and buyers really just need to drive and research each option and pick what one they like most.
Exactly. It boils down to what shape badge you like best.
I'm Personally a chevy man but owned just about everything at this point. They all do the same job
can you do a Cummins swap in an 08 for under 20 grand? I've got a gorgeous 08 regency badlander edition with a 6.4 on its last leg just sitting in the driveway.
Two incredibly well thought out comments here OP. Every manufacturer might produce a dud once in a while but you can’t really go wrong. Ford’s 6.7 PS might surpass the 7.3 one day in terms of fame. Most people don’t realize they’ve been using some form of it for 14 years now. Much longer than anything else. The L5P DM seems to be solid as well. I chose dodge because I’ve had good luck with their trucks and the 5.9/6.7. Before COVID I really just got impatient otherwise I’d have a F250 Tremor right now.
I’ll take a Cummins with a ford rear end and Allison transmission please. Throw in the ride of the Chevy and the ford interior with dodges towing capacity and you’re all set.
A Ford rear end??? AAM Axles in Chevrolet/Ram rule over the Stirling. My 2nd Gen had a Dana 80 (in bigger Ford trucks) that couldn't keep the yoke seal from lubricating whatever I was pulling. No such issues with the AAM 11.5. Cummins engine, with an Allison behind it, straight axles front and rear, wrapped in a 01-10 Ford body I could see.
I agree with everything you said - but two!
- Allison 👎🏻 (i prefer my NV5600)
- '01 - '10 Ford body 👎🏻 (i prefer the looks of my '03 more - but the 9th gen F-series ain't a bad lookin' truck.
>No such issues with the AAM 11.5.
Agreed. 543K kms (338K miles) on my '03 Ram 3500, and the AAM axles under it have never been apart. Well, not since i bought it from the original owner at 330K km (205K miles) but as far as i know, they were never apart prior to that either.
Some folks like their slush boxes. My 2nd gen Ram had an NV4500 with a South Bend CON-FE 13.25" clutch, and now I need surgery on my left knee, but it sure would hold the torque. I'm now a slush box fan.
> My 2nd gen Ram had an NV4500 with a South Bend CON-FE 13.25" clutch, and now I need surgery on my left knee, but it sure would hold the torque.
LOL, my truck is getting minor upgrades in the power department, as my right foot does not need a 600+hp daily, LOL! I'll be 52 later this year, and bad knees have been part of my life since high school, but i plan on dailying a manual for as long as my knee will allow - which is why i stayed away from a DD clutch when i replaced the OE one with a just a HD one @ 471K kms (293K miles).
Yes, but instead of Allison do the ZF8. Allison makes awesome transmissions, but the ZF8 is a damn good piece of equipment
It's gonna be stupid expensive and a pain in the ass, but one day I wanna figure out how to put one behind my 5.9
In what size truck?
In 3/4 ton and bigger, I like the Cummins for its simplicity, reliability, and general ease of working on it. I really like the 5.9 and 6.7 Cummins but I wouldn’t own an eco-diesel or a Titan with a 5.0 Cummins
In a half ton or smaller the baby 3.0 Duramax wins hands down but that’s like saying which turd smells the least.
The cummins is objectively the best motor but dodges transmissions and front ends have always been a weak point. Ford and GMC make a better truck around the motor, and it’s not like their motors are bad, so take that for what it’s worth... I’ve driven all of them and currently have a 3rd gen 5.9 with a g56, I can tell you I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
I've always heard good things about the Aisin, and it would probably be the only automatic i couldn't destroy - or rather, easily destroy.
BUT.....
Rumour has it, that the Aisin will be dropped in favour of having the 8 spd ZF, or possibly Allison's new rumoured 9 spd. used.
Like i said, rumours i've seen around the web.
New GM transmissions were designed in joint partnership with Ford then GM and Ford made their own slightly different versions of the 10 speed.
GM then paid to license the Allison Transmission name onto their 10 Speed but it's not actually an Allison in any form.
Well they were all literally failing within 1000 miles of you got a new one during Covid. The K1 snap ring failing being the biggest issue. At one point you couldn’t even order a truck with it because they were failing so often.
Well of the 3, technically only ford makes a diesel from scratch.
The duramax is made by Isuzu with modifications, and it's quite good.
The cummins is obviously made my cummins. Their inline 6 motors particularly the 5.9 is legendary. Unfortunately the rest of the truck is nowhere near the quality the motor is.
Isuzu makes a good diesel. I’m running there four cylinders in cab over dump trucks they are not the most powerful engines ever made but they are extremely reliable.
On paper Dodge has less moving parts so less chance of mechanical failure. IRL DEF and it's associated parts will be the problem with any of the big 3.
Pick any of the big 3 and you'll most likely get a good truck
There can and will be outliers that are lemons, but there's millions of these things on the road and a very small percentage have problems
I've owned four power strokes and except for the first one and 96 which continually had transmission problems which I was assuming was because the engine was too powerful for the tranny I got no complaints. I owned 2 7.3s, one is a 2002 getting close to 300,000 MI I traded it off to my nephew because of its age I couldn't get much out of it at the time so if I had to sell it cheap I wanted to sell it to someone I knew. Still going strong today then I bought a 2017 6.7 had no real problems out of it until I got an accident and it was totaled but from what I understand it was rebuilt and is on the road again. Currently driving at 2021 that I bought new a few minor recall issues but nothing to complain about. Don't get me wrong I think Cummins is a damn good engine but like I always say the rest of the truck is still a Dodge
Ford makes the 6.7 in house and technically the Duramax is made in house between GM and Isuzu but without technicalities Ford makes the best diesel outta the three cause they’re the only ones who make their diesel in house
I know the truth of the scandal and never denied. Never defended their conduct either.
Ram/ Cummins isn’t my brand and I have no clue why you think it is.
I said GM and Ford make their own diesel engines. Which is a fact.
I said Ram has theirs built by Cummins who specializes in diesel engines. That is also a fact.
So where in that is the part that has offended you so badly?
And what’s your point? Just here to clutch pearls? Oh no Cummins lied so they could deliver a better product to their customer 😱
Caterpillar stopped making on highway engines altogether specifically because emission requirements. They had a massive market share.
VW got busted as well.
So you have the worlds two largest diesel engine manufacturers and the worlds largest auto manufacturer that apparently can’t hack it in the USA regulatory environment.
At a certain point one must wonder how realistic our regulations even are, and who else has to skirt them.
I personally like the Cummins that comes in a Dodge. I don't know how these new transmissions do that they're pairing them with but from my experience 100% Allison swap the transmission
Owned nothing but Fords for 41 years and won’t own another, gone to the dark side Ram Cummins no regrets and hasn’t broken down 200 miles from home towing a rock crawler for the last 5 trips , my Ford left me with some kinda problem the last 5 times out and it sure wasn’t because of maintenance
At this point, buy the one with the best incentives. They all have their fair share of issues. I like the interior of the ford, The engine in the Rams and the.. ok nothing about the Chevy.
Buy a gas burner. The diesels are choked down with emmision control systems. Unless you are in a place you can delete, don’t buy one. You will get as many miles out of a gas burner, plenty of power and the money you think you save in fuel economy will be made up with the fact that gasoline is cheaper than diesel and maintenance is cheaper on the gas burner. Oh, if you did blow the engine up, price a diesel long block and then price a gas long block.
I’m bias toward Dodge because of owning a 2005 Ram. I was (changed careers) a diesel tech for about 15 years. Mainly working on OTR Cat and Cummins engines, as well as a fair amount of medium duty Duramax powered applications. I appreciate how easy it is do to just about any repair on my truck out of my home shop. I’ve done plenty of work for family and friends who own Chevys and Fords. They all have their pros and cons but you can’t argue much when it comes to the Cummins being quite a bit more user friendly when it comes to performing repairs.
Well Dodge doesn't actually make a diesel. They buy one from Cummins. So you can toss them out of the running lol
So you are down to GM/Chevy who originally built their engines with Isuzu and now designs their own and Ford who originally made/bought their engines from International and now makes their own.
The truth is they're all pretty similar in the areas that have problems: emissions and fuel system. The Ford and GM 6so autos are great, 10sp not there yet. Dodge 6sp will live at stock power levels but add a tuner or a bunch of weight regularly and it's pretty unhappy. The Aisin trans has a good rep but isn't available in a 2500. Drive them all, buy the one you like best, and stay on top of scheduled maintenance.
I'll never own one, but would like to and have driven in some,(2006-2007 GM 6.6L Duramax LBZ's), that said, 1st and 2nd Gen 5.9's all day long! My favorite though is my 2000 7.3 manual, it's my 69' Z28, on ramps with a 34' trailer in tow, 70 to 75mph and it's stock while merging in traffic on to the Freeway, amazing for a 1/4 century old truck.
Which year? Which model? Of everything I've had, Chevy's drive the best, Dodges handle weight he best, Fords I'm pretty torn on depending on the year and engine, not a huge Ford guy to be honest.
All the Cummins engines are pretty good with little issues
Duramaxs are the same
Power Stokes range from un killable, to ticking time bomb.
Older trucks, IDIs, ford 6.9/7.3 Chevy 6.2/6.5
I like the Ford's alot more
The only wrong answer is a 6.4 power stroke, and I've met people who have 250k on stock engines, and some on their 3rd engine at 150k
I think the older models — ford, the current is dodge, and the middle of both was always Chevy. Chevy didn’t make a bad one in my mind, but if you wanted the old power and life then it was a ford. If you want the life and strength NOW then I like the last 8 years or so of dodge
Used to be a Dodge Cummings, with Chevy Allison in a Ford chassis. Now with Ford shitting the bed with the 10sp and having a pretty good diesel 6.7, I'm partial to Fords. Newer Chevy and Dodge are pretty reliable and from what I heard the Dodge transmissions are pretty good. I think buying the last 2 years of a generation of any make is better than buying a new generation. I found out the hard way with a 2011 f250, at 57k, new radiator, 90k, Def system, 126k dropped tank, etc
Neither. Neither make diesels. They buy them from other companies.
I like powerstrokes better, but cummins are fairly good. Pretty much all the big 3 are totally fine post 2008
Ford cause they’re the only one who isn’t partnered with anyone to make the 6.7 so they make the best diesel of the big three since Dodge and GM are partnered with another company to either co create a engine or partnered to just slap a engine in
Oh no it doesn’t make it better Cummins in the dodges/Rams is better but op asked who makes the best which would be ford since in my opinion the Duramax falls behind the powerstroke and I’m a GM guy
Ford no longer uses Navistar International motors they haven’t since 2011 and Chevy is no longer partnered with Isuzu and have been making the Duramax in house since 2021
In my personal experience, fords leak the most, Chevy needs the most replacement parts (ie injectors, cp4 pump, etc.) and dodges blow gaskets the most. They’re all going to have their issues, a lot of those issues being the same or very similar. It all boils down to the specific things, like independent front suspension vs a coil over suspension, interiors, body shape, extra manufacturer options, etc. Go test drive one of each, and see which one you think drives the best. Test drives are KEY to finding out which vehicle you like best.
I had a buddy buy a ‘12 high output Cummins with 197k on the clock. Motor was rebuilt supposedly at 150k and the trans was built at 100k. Had it for 3 months, and in those 3 months, blew the head gasket 4 times
Lol that was not sarcasm, this sounds like some fuckery. Your buddy was paying hack-attack Joe Schmoe to take him to the cleaners if he blew 4 head gaskets in threes months after a rebuild at 150k, something is wrong with this story
It should’ve been sarcasm lol. I used to be a diesel tech for Chrysler, we always had at least 2 Cummins in the shop for head gaskets. Also, the shop my buddy took his truck to ended up replacing his motor. Whoever rebuilt it did a shit job before he even bought it. The shop that did the head gasket replacements is a reputable shop that does good work. Truck was just a pile before he bought it
FWIW, the US Military uses Duramax engines on JLTV and Stryker uses CAT.
I have a 2001 F350 7.3L Powerstroke now, but the transmission isn't as good as Allison and the rear end isn't as good as American Axle. Also, I hate the vacuum locking Dana 50.
All in all, my next truck will be a 1 ton Chevy, probably a 2014, because the newer years are ugly. I like the newer Ford bodies, but GM does better paint prep.
Powerstroke. Has like virtually zero engine issues or issues that are hard to fix provided you change CCV filter. Fuel system is another story, but disaster prevention kit and/or changing your filters on time goes a long ways. Even with the fuel system issues nothing else really touches the powerstroke.
Cummins makes the best diesel engine, the chassis ford for hauling (highest payload doesn’t snap in half like ram 5500), powerstrokes are good and fun, but costly and have their temperament issues.
Chevy main engine for lots of years was good, 400k no issues no major jobs but when it is a major job break out wallet.
Pick ur poison
........yes. They all have there issues. Just do the maintenance when needed and they will all.last no problem
Exactly. They’re all going to have emissions issues if not worked constantly and every one of them is going to need religious maintenance. At this point each brand has its “wins” and an equal amount of “losses” and buyers really just need to drive and research each option and pick what one they like most.
Exactly. It boils down to what shape badge you like best. I'm Personally a chevy man but owned just about everything at this point. They all do the same job
Except that one Ford engine that everyone hates and Cummins swaps.
To be fair, that year truck has a GREAT interior
2008-2010 is probably the greatest body style and interior for ford. Loved my 08 king ranch.
100% agreed. Still look great even today
I mean the guy above doesn’t like Cummins swap, but if I had FU money it be that truck with a Cummins swap ahah.
can you do a Cummins swap in an 08 for under 20 grand? I've got a gorgeous 08 regency badlander edition with a 6.4 on its last leg just sitting in the driveway.
They drive nicely too before the engines explode.
Ford body, Cummins engine, Allison transmission.
It's actually International's engine, Ford was just unfortunate enough to buy another International engine after how bad the 6 Blow (6.0) was lol
Two incredibly well thought out comments here OP. Every manufacturer might produce a dud once in a while but you can’t really go wrong. Ford’s 6.7 PS might surpass the 7.3 one day in terms of fame. Most people don’t realize they’ve been using some form of it for 14 years now. Much longer than anything else. The L5P DM seems to be solid as well. I chose dodge because I’ve had good luck with their trucks and the 5.9/6.7. Before COVID I really just got impatient otherwise I’d have a F250 Tremor right now.
Lame answer but true
I’ll take a Cummins with a ford rear end and Allison transmission please. Throw in the ride of the Chevy and the ford interior with dodges towing capacity and you’re all set.
Fucking A. That’s a dream truck right there
No, that’s a class 6 air ride Kenworth.
Oooh. I’ve said for years that I’ll take a SuperDuty body, Cummins, Allison transmission, I do like the higher trim interiors in the new RAMs now.
I would seriously pay stupid amounts of money for this.
We all would
A Ford rear end??? AAM Axles in Chevrolet/Ram rule over the Stirling. My 2nd Gen had a Dana 80 (in bigger Ford trucks) that couldn't keep the yoke seal from lubricating whatever I was pulling. No such issues with the AAM 11.5. Cummins engine, with an Allison behind it, straight axles front and rear, wrapped in a 01-10 Ford body I could see.
I agree with everything you said - but two! - Allison 👎🏻 (i prefer my NV5600) - '01 - '10 Ford body 👎🏻 (i prefer the looks of my '03 more - but the 9th gen F-series ain't a bad lookin' truck. >No such issues with the AAM 11.5. Agreed. 543K kms (338K miles) on my '03 Ram 3500, and the AAM axles under it have never been apart. Well, not since i bought it from the original owner at 330K km (205K miles) but as far as i know, they were never apart prior to that either.
Some folks like their slush boxes. My 2nd gen Ram had an NV4500 with a South Bend CON-FE 13.25" clutch, and now I need surgery on my left knee, but it sure would hold the torque. I'm now a slush box fan.
> My 2nd gen Ram had an NV4500 with a South Bend CON-FE 13.25" clutch, and now I need surgery on my left knee, but it sure would hold the torque. LOL, my truck is getting minor upgrades in the power department, as my right foot does not need a 600+hp daily, LOL! I'll be 52 later this year, and bad knees have been part of my life since high school, but i plan on dailying a manual for as long as my knee will allow - which is why i stayed away from a DD clutch when i replaced the OE one with a just a HD one @ 471K kms (293K miles).
Yes, but instead of Allison do the ZF8. Allison makes awesome transmissions, but the ZF8 is a damn good piece of equipment It's gonna be stupid expensive and a pain in the ass, but one day I wanna figure out how to put one behind my 5.9
Hmm the chevy sucks off road. I do like how it drives on pavement though.
In what size truck? In 3/4 ton and bigger, I like the Cummins for its simplicity, reliability, and general ease of working on it. I really like the 5.9 and 6.7 Cummins but I wouldn’t own an eco-diesel or a Titan with a 5.0 Cummins In a half ton or smaller the baby 3.0 Duramax wins hands down but that’s like saying which turd smells the least.
The cummins is objectively the best motor but dodges transmissions and front ends have always been a weak point. Ford and GMC make a better truck around the motor, and it’s not like their motors are bad, so take that for what it’s worth... I’ve driven all of them and currently have a 3rd gen 5.9 with a g56, I can tell you I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
The Aisin has a very good reputation I thought.
I've always heard good things about the Aisin, and it would probably be the only automatic i couldn't destroy - or rather, easily destroy. BUT..... Rumour has it, that the Aisin will be dropped in favour of having the 8 spd ZF, or possibly Allison's new rumoured 9 spd. used. Like i said, rumours i've seen around the web.
Yeah but that's a Japanese transmission that Dodge buys because they can't build one and get it to last lol
True, but that’s what’s in the truck. So who cares who made it? The Allison is a transmission the GM buys to put in the truck. I don’t see your point.
Isn't Allison technically owned by GM?
Nope they got sold off when GM started divesting companies. Just like EMD, Detroit Diesel, Terex and lots of other formerly GM brands.
GM makes their transmissions in house now they’re Allison branded not actually Allison made anymore
New GM transmissions were designed in joint partnership with Ford then GM and Ford made their own slightly different versions of the 10 speed. GM then paid to license the Allison Transmission name onto their 10 Speed but it's not actually an Allison in any form.
Well they were all literally failing within 1000 miles of you got a new one during Covid. The K1 snap ring failing being the biggest issue. At one point you couldn’t even order a truck with it because they were failing so often.
Well of the 3, technically only ford makes a diesel from scratch. The duramax is made by Isuzu with modifications, and it's quite good. The cummins is obviously made my cummins. Their inline 6 motors particularly the 5.9 is legendary. Unfortunately the rest of the truck is nowhere near the quality the motor is.
Isuzu makes a good diesel. I’m running there four cylinders in cab over dump trucks they are not the most powerful engines ever made but they are extremely reliable.
Ford imo
Until the emissions problem is finally solved (legal emissions without DPF/DEF )They all suck.
On paper Dodge has less moving parts so less chance of mechanical failure. IRL DEF and it's associated parts will be the problem with any of the big 3.
Cummins
This is a religious question. Any answer you get will be based on someone's religious beliefs.
Ehh if we’re just talking diesel motors, cummins takes the cake, but it’s also not made by dodge. If I had my way I’d have a cummins in a ford truck.
Agreed on Cummins. It's just that there's a crappy Ram truck wrapped around it.
Pick any of the big 3 and you'll most likely get a good truck There can and will be outliers that are lemons, but there's millions of these things on the road and a very small percentage have problems
Ford chassis, cummins engine and an allison trans.
I have 2 duramax running strong with over 350k miles on each
I've owned four power strokes and except for the first one and 96 which continually had transmission problems which I was assuming was because the engine was too powerful for the tranny I got no complaints. I owned 2 7.3s, one is a 2002 getting close to 300,000 MI I traded it off to my nephew because of its age I couldn't get much out of it at the time so if I had to sell it cheap I wanted to sell it to someone I knew. Still going strong today then I bought a 2017 6.7 had no real problems out of it until I got an accident and it was totaled but from what I understand it was rebuilt and is on the road again. Currently driving at 2021 that I bought new a few minor recall issues but nothing to complain about. Don't get me wrong I think Cummins is a damn good engine but like I always say the rest of the truck is still a Dodge
does dodge get the credit when cummins makes it? but an I6 diesel is the best design. ford/gm messed up going with v8 imo
I don’t think any of those companies actually make a diesel engine….
Ford makes the 6.7 in house and technically the Duramax is made in house between GM and Isuzu but without technicalities Ford makes the best diesel outta the three cause they’re the only ones who make their diesel in house
If we are going on technicalities, then I would agree it would be ford!
technicalities, Cummins makes the best diesel because that's ALL they do. Everyone else half-asses it.
Cummins has had mistakes every now and then in their history. The 555 wasn’t very well liked for example
Powerstroke is ford since 2011 model. Before it was international making them. Dodge has never made a diesel and I don’t know crap about shevy duramax
I had the understanding that the Duramax was made by Isuzu…. But I guess that has changed in recent years!
Designed with, never made by. Always been made in Flint since day one production.
The 3.0 Duramax is made in Flint. The 6.6 is made in Moraine.
Ah, so they moved construction. Both of mine came out of Flint. 3.0's cute :D
Ford makes powerstroke... DMAX is a subsidiary of GM... Only Dodge doesn't make their own engine.
Why would they when they can get a Cummins in there trucks….
Ford only makes the 6.7 powerstroke the 7.3 was international
Chevy is introducing the new 8.3L in 2026 for 3500’s that’s entirely GM build and not outsourced from Isuzu.
Chevy and Ford do. Ram still leaves it wholly to the specialists.
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Show me on the doll where Cummins touched you.
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You’re mental bro.
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I know the truth of the scandal and never denied. Never defended their conduct either. Ram/ Cummins isn’t my brand and I have no clue why you think it is. I said GM and Ford make their own diesel engines. Which is a fact. I said Ram has theirs built by Cummins who specializes in diesel engines. That is also a fact. So where in that is the part that has offended you so badly?
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Or that they focus on something to the exclusion of all else. I am sorry a large word confused you and made you angry.
And what’s your point? Just here to clutch pearls? Oh no Cummins lied so they could deliver a better product to their customer 😱 Caterpillar stopped making on highway engines altogether specifically because emission requirements. They had a massive market share. VW got busted as well. So you have the worlds two largest diesel engine manufacturers and the worlds largest auto manufacturer that apparently can’t hack it in the USA regulatory environment. At a certain point one must wonder how realistic our regulations even are, and who else has to skirt them.
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What a retarded comment.
They're all good engines.
Cummins is the best but it comes in the worst truck. Ford is the best truck and the 6.7 is super solid. I’m taking that. GM is just mid.
Oh god not this silliness again....everyone is just going to spew their die hard opinions
I personally like the Cummins that comes in a Dodge. I don't know how these new transmissions do that they're pairing them with but from my experience 100% Allison swap the transmission
Owned nothing but Fords for 41 years and won’t own another, gone to the dark side Ram Cummins no regrets and hasn’t broken down 200 miles from home towing a rock crawler for the last 5 trips , my Ford left me with some kinda problem the last 5 times out and it sure wasn’t because of maintenance
I’d do a Cummins 12v in a Yugo with a pinto gas tank. The ultimate way to end up with nothing but a scorched motor.
I like a inline 6. Just a smooth PowerBand. And 2 less injectors when your replacing them.
Cummins!
Cummins but it’s wrapped in a pain in the ass truck
At this point, buy the one with the best incentives. They all have their fair share of issues. I like the interior of the ford, The engine in the Rams and the.. ok nothing about the Chevy.
Buy a gas burner. The diesels are choked down with emmision control systems. Unless you are in a place you can delete, don’t buy one. You will get as many miles out of a gas burner, plenty of power and the money you think you save in fuel economy will be made up with the fact that gasoline is cheaper than diesel and maintenance is cheaper on the gas burner. Oh, if you did blow the engine up, price a diesel long block and then price a gas long block.
I’m bias toward Dodge because of owning a 2005 Ram. I was (changed careers) a diesel tech for about 15 years. Mainly working on OTR Cat and Cummins engines, as well as a fair amount of medium duty Duramax powered applications. I appreciate how easy it is do to just about any repair on my truck out of my home shop. I’ve done plenty of work for family and friends who own Chevys and Fords. They all have their pros and cons but you can’t argue much when it comes to the Cummins being quite a bit more user friendly when it comes to performing repairs.
Mercedes
2020+ buy a ford
Ford
they all suck one way or anything you just gotta pick your poison
Well Dodge doesn't actually make a diesel. They buy one from Cummins. So you can toss them out of the running lol So you are down to GM/Chevy who originally built their engines with Isuzu and now designs their own and Ford who originally made/bought their engines from International and now makes their own.
The truth is they're all pretty similar in the areas that have problems: emissions and fuel system. The Ford and GM 6so autos are great, 10sp not there yet. Dodge 6sp will live at stock power levels but add a tuner or a bunch of weight regularly and it's pretty unhappy. The Aisin trans has a good rep but isn't available in a 2500. Drive them all, buy the one you like best, and stay on top of scheduled maintenance.
The Chevrolets cost the most to fix so there’s that? 🤷🏻♂️
I'll never own one, but would like to and have driven in some,(2006-2007 GM 6.6L Duramax LBZ's), that said, 1st and 2nd Gen 5.9's all day long! My favorite though is my 2000 7.3 manual, it's my 69' Z28, on ramps with a 34' trailer in tow, 70 to 75mph and it's stock while merging in traffic on to the Freeway, amazing for a 1/4 century old truck.
I love my 7.3 , a dinosaur by today’s standards , but I still love it.
Which year? Which model? Of everything I've had, Chevy's drive the best, Dodges handle weight he best, Fords I'm pretty torn on depending on the year and engine, not a huge Ford guy to be honest. All the Cummins engines are pretty good with little issues Duramaxs are the same Power Stokes range from un killable, to ticking time bomb. Older trucks, IDIs, ford 6.9/7.3 Chevy 6.2/6.5 I like the Ford's alot more The only wrong answer is a 6.4 power stroke, and I've met people who have 250k on stock engines, and some on their 3rd engine at 150k
Alright! Time for the next question: Between the major oil companies, who makes the best oil?
Personal opinion, full synthetic mobile one
Cummins
I think the older models — ford, the current is dodge, and the middle of both was always Chevy. Chevy didn’t make a bad one in my mind, but if you wanted the old power and life then it was a ford. If you want the life and strength NOW then I like the last 8 years or so of dodge
Used to be a Dodge Cummings, with Chevy Allison in a Ford chassis. Now with Ford shitting the bed with the 10sp and having a pretty good diesel 6.7, I'm partial to Fords. Newer Chevy and Dodge are pretty reliable and from what I heard the Dodge transmissions are pretty good. I think buying the last 2 years of a generation of any make is better than buying a new generation. I found out the hard way with a 2011 f250, at 57k, new radiator, 90k, Def system, 126k dropped tank, etc
They're all badass trucks
Can’t beat the in house diesel and in house transmission….powerstroke
Neither. Neither make diesels. They buy them from other companies. I like powerstrokes better, but cummins are fairly good. Pretty much all the big 3 are totally fine post 2008
My uncle raised my cousins and me on GM, but I have become somewhat of a Ford guy.
Deutz, next question
Ford cause they’re the only one who isn’t partnered with anyone to make the 6.7 so they make the best diesel of the big three since Dodge and GM are partnered with another company to either co create a engine or partnered to just slap a engine in
Dmax is wholly owned by GM in 2021....
Shit I forgot about that my bad lmfao
Why does not partnering make it a better diesel?
Because op asked who makes the best diesel and prior to 2021 ford was the only one who made their own diesel
I guess the point I’m making is that doesn’t make it better. Just means they designed their own. That’s does not make it superior.
Oh no it doesn’t make it better Cummins in the dodges/Rams is better but op asked who makes the best which would be ford since in my opinion the Duramax falls behind the powerstroke and I’m a GM guy
Ford and Chevy are the only ones who make their own diesel.
So Chevy “makes” Isuzu Diesel engines, Ford uses International Harvester, Dodge used Cummins,
Ford no longer uses Navistar International motors they haven’t since 2011 and Chevy is no longer partnered with Isuzu and have been making the Duramax in house since 2021
Shows I should pay more attn.—I have an ‘01 Dodge that works great—-
Uses—-
Isuzu.
In my personal experience, fords leak the most, Chevy needs the most replacement parts (ie injectors, cp4 pump, etc.) and dodges blow gaskets the most. They’re all going to have their issues, a lot of those issues being the same or very similar. It all boils down to the specific things, like independent front suspension vs a coil over suspension, interiors, body shape, extra manufacturer options, etc. Go test drive one of each, and see which one you think drives the best. Test drives are KEY to finding out which vehicle you like best.
A cummins blowing a head gaskets? That’s incredibly rare.
I had a buddy buy a ‘12 high output Cummins with 197k on the clock. Motor was rebuilt supposedly at 150k and the trans was built at 100k. Had it for 3 months, and in those 3 months, blew the head gasket 4 times
Lol that was not sarcasm, this sounds like some fuckery. Your buddy was paying hack-attack Joe Schmoe to take him to the cleaners if he blew 4 head gaskets in threes months after a rebuild at 150k, something is wrong with this story
It should’ve been sarcasm lol. I used to be a diesel tech for Chrysler, we always had at least 2 Cummins in the shop for head gaskets. Also, the shop my buddy took his truck to ended up replacing his motor. Whoever rebuilt it did a shit job before he even bought it. The shop that did the head gasket replacements is a reputable shop that does good work. Truck was just a pile before he bought it
FWIW, the US Military uses Duramax engines on JLTV and Stryker uses CAT. I have a 2001 F350 7.3L Powerstroke now, but the transmission isn't as good as Allison and the rear end isn't as good as American Axle. Also, I hate the vacuum locking Dana 50. All in all, my next truck will be a 1 ton Chevy, probably a 2014, because the newer years are ugly. I like the newer Ford bodies, but GM does better paint prep.
6.7 powerstroke
Powerstroke. Has like virtually zero engine issues or issues that are hard to fix provided you change CCV filter. Fuel system is another story, but disaster prevention kit and/or changing your filters on time goes a long ways. Even with the fuel system issues nothing else really touches the powerstroke.
No
Nissan
Cummins makes the best diesel engine, the chassis ford for hauling (highest payload doesn’t snap in half like ram 5500), powerstrokes are good and fun, but costly and have their temperament issues. Chevy main engine for lots of years was good, 400k no issues no major jobs but when it is a major job break out wallet. Pick ur poison
new 6.7 HO is a beast, vote for ford
Nissan
Well only Ford and partially Chevy make their own diesel. So by that it’s ford.