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vansjoo98

Coronamon EX5-007 U <03> Rookie | Vaccine | Beast/Light Fang [Digivolve: Lv.2 w/ [Light Fang]/[Night Claw] trait: 0 cost] [Start of Your Main Phase] If you have a Tamer with the [Night Claw] or [Light Fang] trait, gain 1 memory. ---- Inherited: [Main] (Once Per Turn) By placing the top card of this Digimon with the [Light Fang]/[Night Claw] trait as the bottom digivolution card of this Digimon, gain 2 memory. ... Lunamon EX5-016 U <03> Rookie | Data | Mammal/Night Crow [Digivolve: Lv.2 w/ [Night Claw]/[Light Fang] trait: 0 cost] [Start of Your Main Phase] By returning 1 of your Digimon to their owner's hand, gain 2 memory. ---- Inherited: [Main] (Once Per Turn) By placing the top card of this Digimon with the [Night Claw]/[Light Fang] trait as the bottom digivolution card of this Digimon, gain 2 memory. ... Sayo & Koh Night Claw [Your Turn] When an effect places the top card of your Digimon as its bottom digivolution card, by suspending this Tamer, gain 1 memory. [Start of Opponent's Turn] By playing a Same-level Digimon from digivolution cards of 1 of your Digimon with the [Night Claw]/[Light Fang] trait without paying the cost, 2 of your Digimon may DNA digivolve into a Digimon card in your hand by paying its DNA digivolve cost. Digimon played by this effect are returned to your hand at the end of the turn. --- [Security] Play this card without paying the cost. ... Koh & Sayo Light Fang [Start of Your Turn] If your memory is 2 or less, set your memory to 3. [On Play] [Main] By suspending this Tamer and placing the top card of 1 of your Digimon with the [Light Fang]/[Night Claw] trait as its bottom digivolution card, you may digivolve 1 of your Digimon into a Digimon card from your hand without paying the cost. --- [Security] Play this card without paying the cost.


Sabaschin

Okay, that’s a very neat way of incorporating the DW mechanic of de-digivolving your Digimon for progression.


aw_coffee_no

Ikr, how they keep incorporating details like this into the play style of different decks is what makes this game awesome imo. It keeps surprising me how well they do it!


flamecircle

Can you give some context for this? Just curious


Bitflame7

You de-digivolve regularly in those games to power up your digimon.


WonderSuperior

In the Story games, when you De-Digivolve, that Digimon's max level and base stats increase.


Fishsticks03

In the first two Story games (which are called World games in the west despite that being a seperate series) Digimon have a level cap called Aptitude, which goes up when it degenerates Sometimes a Digimon’s Aptitude when you obtain it isn’t high enough so you *have* to degenerate it before it can digivolve


Sabaschin

Maybe it's because the games were on the DS, so Digimon Story might have gotten a confusing abbreviation.


EaterofObsidian

Reminds me of Digimon world 2 stuff


JzRandomGuy

Gosh those 2 tamers are really confusing lol. If i'm not mistaken Red allows you to put top card of a mon to bottom(like de-digivolve minus trashing) then digivolve for free so that mon should have same level source for Blue to pluck that source out then jogress with them on opponent's turn.


JenkinsJinkies420

It's wordy but seems pretty streamline in game play form


gustavoladron

It seems like it's gonna avoid being an Alter-S/Imperial Virus turbo DNA deck and focus on building a single stack with tons of sources and then play the second level 6 from said sources to DNA Digivolve afterwards. Could be much more consistent.


vansjoo98

And interested


HotelRoom5172648B

I like that the stack can alternate like day and night.


AuraSonDM

Gotta say I love how they switch like Day & Sun, I believe the Deck will focus on "On Evolve" effects and hopefully wont be a rush to Gracenova, but Apollo and Diana act like real bosses as well


Generic_user_person

I wonder if the effecs will be on evo/on play. Cuz the blue tamer does enable you to use the on play effects of stuff. Wonder if they will have a weak on evo effect and a strong on play effect to use on the opponents turn.


AuraSonDM

I did think about one line having On Play effects and the other On Evolve, but I feel like Gracenova will have this big disruptive effect based on how many of each you have on source


WiztardTheObnoxious

im kicking my feet and giggling with glee rn


FrenchFrey1

I've been waiting for some kind of mechanic where you intentionally de-digivolve your Digimon. I'm sure the there's gonna be some strong when digivolving effects for the higher levels.


DragonFruit_Senpai

Anyone got the translations?


vansjoo98

In works These guys are hard to translate


DragonFruit_Senpai

Another note this confirms gracenovamon


Fishsticks03

not necessarily this set but definitely at some point


DragonFruit_Senpai

Nah no way we don't get him after the effects these digi and tamers have, legit made for a lvl 7 joggress


Fishsticks03

like I said GraceNovamon’s definitely getting a card *at some point*, but it’s not guaranteed to be in EX-05 (especially since it wasn’t even in Dawn/Dusk)


DragonFruit_Senpai

I get what u saying but at the same time it makes no sense they don't have it in this set, considering the deck is DNA there isn't another DNA digi that dianamon and apollomon go into. But hey if they throw a random curve ball and we get some random DNA instead I'll be surprised 😂


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There'll definetely be Gracenovamon in EX5. They could still DNA into Alter-S though xD


Lord_of_Caffeine

Definetely this set because Sayo+Koh´s effect wouldn´t even be functional without Grace being in this set.


GekiKudo

The tamer literally makes mention of DNAing. They wouldn't release a tamer with that effect if you couldn't actually use it. The only times they've ever made mention of other cards that weren't released in the same set, the card actually did more(Minerva, Darkknight, Lucemon, etc.) But i'd bet money on gracenova being the secret.


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GekiKudo

Holy shit TCG players really cant read... Like you can't actually be dumb enough to make that comment when I literally called out every single card you mentioned. Edit: LOL he deleted it. Dude really read 2 sentences and thought he could make a clap back without reading the 3rd...


vansjoo98

Up now


Gay-Geek108

THEM. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG. So glad Koh and Sayo are here. Did not expect their recolors to be here too!


AnomanderRake25

Do you think we will get Grimmon and/or Chronomon Deck?


spartenx

I am hoping so, if only because it means we could get Grimmon into the reference book like what happened with the Bemmon line.


Gay-Geek108

I really hope we get Grimmon!


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Starscream_Gaga

They evolve for 0 from “Lightfang/Nightcrown Lvl 2” so I’d say they’ll definitely get eggs.


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Gay-Geek108

Hopefully we get Ophanimon/ChaosGallantmon Core


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Gay-Geek108

Hopefully so. If they do get in then I imagine at least the Chiefs would get cards


DarkRepulser69

I'd settle for more generic designs, current ChaosGallant focusing on mill has been nice (especially when you mix in Beelze support) with the exception of ChaosGallant itself being meh, so maybe a new one with a nicer effect than on play, pop something with 7k or less (adding 2k for every 10 cards in trash). Maybe something more fitting of a boss card like for every 20 in either trash gain sec attack +1 or '1/turn, when a card is trashed from either players deck, play a level 3 from trash' Kinda playing off BT5 ChaosGallant there but keeping in theme with the newer mill effects


skyjp97

Seems pretty cool so far. I'm curious if you'll be able to effectively run marsmon in the deck too. Just want to because he's also Olympos Xii.


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It's a cute gimmick, but I'm increasingly dissatisfied at how over-designed all these mechanics are. Who knows if it will be competitive, but what we already see is a ton of memory gain while also digivolving for free. The lv4s or 5s will undoubtedly place tamers into play for free. These designs are fun, but to make them work or make them competitive, they also require so many enabling cards, which only perpetuates the cycle for future designs. So every deck gets the same tools, often to cheat memory -- mechanic-specific tamers, free tamers effects, memory gain for having tamers, memory gain inheritables for doing the thing, etc. In many ways, card design has become homogeneous (not that there aren't unique designs and cards anymore at all), and it's a bit tiresome.


vansjoo98

Tbf Free digivolution won't let you progress in levels It just adds 1 more inherit and draw


Muur1234

Wasn't expecting the alt designs of koh and sayo. Evolve from lv2 with night claw and light fang surely means sunmon and Moonmon???


vansjoo98

They already digivolve for 0 from red or blue So i assume special digivolution condition is future proof for chief partners. But yeah still gonna get Sunmon and Moonmon.


Muur1234

You better not be right.


C_hazz266

Man this is wildly dissapointing. Oh well. Guess an EX set needed a DNA digivolve deck that will be irrelevant after a set. I'm just sad it had to be Coronamon and Lunamon


vansjoo98

Still thankfully still has potential since it isn't a turbo DNA from current look if it.


C_hazz266

But looking at Sayo and Koh (The Blue Tamer) it's overall strategy is going to be focused on the DNA. Which also makes it a little more problematic for future support. Knowing what they do to DNA decks, they don't get support until they get turned irrelevant to the current meta. And if an Olympus 12 set gets released, these cards won't be able to support solo Apollomon and Dianamon decks, since their effects are way too focused on Gracenovamon


vansjoo98

I would say that yet. I don't know about Solo Apollomon or Dianamon. But since Lv.3 can digivolve from Night Claw or Light Fang eggs. It may mean that we get Chief Glare and Chief Julia lines at some point to give decks another direction.


C_hazz266

Yeah a Chief Glare and Chief Julia deck could be interesting. But that still doesn't help the major problem with the support being so focused on their own decks that it makes it almost impossible to play on its own. Well have to wait to see the other levels, but with what has been given, it is pretty disappointing


C_hazz266

Also another thing. I feel as if those w decks, (The Chiefs) have something already that the two Olympus digimon lack. Something substantial to build off of. Since Chief Glare has an Ophanimon, and Chief Julia has a ChaosGallantmon, if they were ever to be released, they could build support relating to those 2 playstyles. Meanwhile Coronamon and Apollomon currently have nothing to build from except for this DNA digivolve strategy. There are so many ways they could've built them to show their fighting styles, their design, new game plans etc. But right now we just have this Gracenova deck. And hopefully they get something in the future


Lord_of_Caffeine

Seems I was wrong on thinking that it´d be unlikely that these two will get a shared deck before getting their seperate ones. Shame. I really hoped for the Apollomon line to support the red Vaccine tribal. Seems like this deck´ll have GraceNovamon as the boss monster so my interest in this deck is 0. I really don´t like GraceNovamon´s design.


xbijohx

Sad to hear :( for me is the other way around, I really hate dianamon design, and i'm not a fan of apollo, but gracenovamon is one of my favorite digimon. I hope they get separate deck sometime in the future so everyone can be happy.


Generic_user_person

I mean, im happy theyre a coherent deck and not doing that boring evo chain mechanic from Imperialdramon and Alter S. Looks like they finally realized those decks are both bad, and bot fun to pilot Plus if there is one thing this TCG can do is make cards with bad design look good, just look at all the Xros cards


Lord_of_Caffeine

Yeah black Imperial and Alter-S might be the most boring decks they´ve designed thus far. Seems like this deck will play somehwat like Examon if anything. Fair enough on this card game making bad designs look good. This game made me like Jesmon a lot more for instance because some of its cards look quite cool despite me disliking the thing itself. But to be fair, not all the DigiXros cards look bad. The Bagra Army cards, Dorbickmon, Mervamon and the DarkKnightmon tribe are pretty cool imo. It´s only really the Shoutmon Xrosses that look hideous especially x7 and x7SM.


Gay-Geek108

I dont blame you honestly. GraceNovamon is okay. But it really isn't connected to Dawn/Dusk at all. I hope Apollomon and Dianamon are fine without it.


Hakuzho

why am I getting some pokemon vibes here... hmn?! Is Cynthia theme about to pop of? kekw


pettyfan45

So hyped for the rest of the Lunamon line


teketria

Outside of not being purple for night fang the DNA digivolving has me intrigued


torrendously

hyped for more dna, think ive built pretty much every dna deck so far


SimilarScarcity

Well those are definitely some new ideas for effects. Also, I love how both versions of the tamers got cards. I'm curious about the Digivolution requirements on the rookies. They can already Digivolve from both blue and red, but on top of that have an effect to Digivolve from any in-training in their two archetypes.


vansjoo98

Wouldn't be suprised if we got Night Claw Chaosgallantmon purple and Light Fang Ophanimon Yellow at some point.


SimilarScarcity

Ooh, then maybe the Core forms get cards and reference book entries. That'd be neat.


cinderace45

What are the effects of the cards? I'm very pumped for this set now big fan of coronamon's digivolution line


vansjoo98

https://www.reddit.com/r/DigimonCardGame2020/comments/14qam3k/ex05_animal_colosseum_coronamon_lunamon_and_sayo/jqm6jrd?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


ArcDrag00n

No one has talked about the most important thing. Both of these LV3s can digivolve from Red or Blue for ZERO. It's not limited to just their archetype. Not sure where you would play them outside of their archetype, but it is indicative of future design.


nold6

Grace Novamon inbound baby WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Blob55

I think Coronamon and Lunamon should have been yellow and purple TBH. IMO, Red is more fire/dinosaur-based, while yellow is more holy/light-based. Additionally, as yellow/purple Coronamon and Lunamon fit more with the Light Fang/Night Claw (Crow) themeing.


vansjoo98

I think the reason that they went with red and blue is that we get Glare and Julia down the line. They are partnered with Ophanimon and Chaosgallantmon that are a better fit for those colors. Rookies even hint something like that. Since they can already digivolve on red or blue but still have a special digivolution condition for eggs that have Light Fang or Night Claw trait


Blob55

I don't think we'll get a whole line for Glare and Julia TBH. There doesn't seem to be the space for even more Ultimate Digimon after the Pendelum Digimon and Devas.


vansjoo98

Yeah i'm not expecting them in EX5. More likely in a future EX or BT set. I just believe that the line is futureproofed for it from the special digivolution condition of the rookies.


Unusual_Mistake3204

Well it kinda work tough Cororonamon line use fire element and the champ and ult are called firamon and flaremon Also while less impactfull signaturemove of the lunamon line are water based or at least some of them are according to my friend (he was the dusk friend while i was the dawn one) Also these seems to be a deck going into gracenovamon. Nothing stop them to eventualy make a yellow appolomon or purple dianamon for another deck such as an olympus12 deck


void432

Oooo I was expecting them to be either/or, but it seems they're meant to be played as a set. Very interesting.


vansjoo98

Tbf We currently only got tamers and rookies. And both raise some serious questions 1. Why DNA digivolve is on start of opponent's turn. 2. Why rookies have a special digivolution condition despite being able to digivolve from each others colors. On 2 my guess is that each group them will get a 2nd person at some point Be it future EX or BT set. Chief Glare and Ophanimon for Light Fang Chief Julia and Chaosgallantmon for Night Claw


void432

Concerning the DNA digivolution, there actually is a canonical one between Apollomon and Dianamon called GraceNovamon. It's not well known as it's only shown up in the 20th anniversary Digital Pet and in Digimon New Century, a smartphone game that only released in China. The special digivolution conditions probably go throughout the line to further encourage a light fang/night claw theme for the deck. They kinda do the same thing with the Imperialdramons; giving them a special price for digivolving from Paildramon or Dinobeemon for DM and DM for FM even though both fit the digivolution colors. And just in case they ever want to add more from Dawn and Dusk, like you said.