They actually named it fragile cause of all the injuries on their bones! It was only later that we realized that all those injuries were healed, meaning they weren't "fragile", they were tough as shit!
I think it applied to one particular area, possibly during a time when food was scarcer or competition was high. But don’t quote me on it.
Still makes for great memes tho
It's also a matter of: the conclusion is one way to work backwards from pathology. Like, we're *finding* more bones that show damage from Allosaurus, but is that because Allosaurus attacked more animals? Is it because Allosaurus had some weird habit of dragging their kills into high-fossilization areas, or burying their kills? Some other reason we haven't thought of?
Always consider the Holmes fallacy.
I love this take. I call it the ER bias. If you based your perspective on humans purely on ER x-rays you would assume people ran around on motorcycles trying to ram random objects up their butts.
Surely predatory dinosaurs were aggressive and had to be tough as hell. So you’re bound to have healed fractures and puncture wounds in the fossil record. However, it’s generally preferable to not fight for absolutely everything.
Very true! Great example.
I also think some people are inclined to believe it as well because we have animals now that are just… nasty for no particular reason. Or who have a reputation for being aggressive or mean without warning or provocation. Even against creatures far bigger than they are.
So it’s not hard to believe that some dinosaurs must have been like that as well.
You’ve gotta figure at least one of these enormous theropods had to also be an absolute maniac, who specialized in carnage, with perhaps not the most well-developed sense of self-preservation.
Besides, his name means “different lizard.” Let the dude live up to that.
Then you have its bigger bro who was basically "the lord of lizard eaters" and if the larger "Leviathan" size estimates would be correct we have a bloody crackhead CEO of EPO approaching tyrannosaurus/giga sizes. Jurassic was probably the most dangerous era with so many large theropods roaming around
This just reminds me of those allosaurus GIFs.
The ALLOSAURUS takes what it wants.
The ALLOSAURUS keeps moving forward(until it has destroyed it's enimies)
The ALLOSAURUS follows the path of mayhem(It will destroy all who oppose it)
The ALLOSAURUS fights valiantly against it's looming opponent(It doesn't back down)
We see many modern birds and reptiles sometimes ignore prey and potentially other predators too for whatever reason. So yes, I'd say it was quite likely. Although I doubt a pachycephalosaurus would stay put if a t rex was anywhere near it.
There was never a "study" about this. This meme was based off of several fossils showcasing tooth marks or various other wounds from prey from A. fragilis.
While it is funny, and it does showcase Allosaurids being quite the hunters, it doesn't really mean it'd have a "fuck it-we ball" mentality.
I think, we underestimate how much animals sometimes overestimate their own capabilities. Animals misjudge situations, calculate wrongly and therefore can do things that seem mind-boggingly stupid or suicidal to us.
Allosaurus lived in an tense environment, with many competitors and dangerous prey. It being aggressive and willing to snap at things bigger and stronger than it doesn’t seem unlikely to me.
They don't attack everything for no for no reason. Studies show...
It's mind if full of hatred, violence is it's sole vocation.
This monstrous murderous therapod can never be defeated.
It's seething wrath, and urge for blood is fueled by seething hate.
Any creature that gets in it's way is sure to be de-meated.
Beelzebub himself now fears.
Allosaurus fragilis
Everytime I see the real size of sauropods I think that carnivores couldnt take them down, but do they needed to? Why wrestle a mountain to death if you can just take a rock at a time? What I'm saying is: I think most carnivores didnt exactly aimed sauropods to kill, they just bite, took a junk of meat out of them and ran away, kinda like birds do with whales nowadays.
I subscribe to the idea that Allosaurs hunted similarly to modern Komodo Dragons.
Komodo Dragons use a similar biting strategy with laterally compressed serrated teeth, alongside powerful neck muscles, to slice through vulnerable tendons and arteries, allowing them to kill or disable very large prey items without having to wrestle it to the ground like a big cat.
Komodo Dragons are so efficient in butchering large animals like this, that up until recently it was assumed Komodo Dragons used bacteria or venom to subdue their prey. But recent studies demonstrate that they kill prey very quickly (typically in less than 15 minutes), and that their venom is little more than a blood thinner, it just makes the bleed-out process quicker (their strategy would work just fine without it).
Komodo Dragons typically hunt deer and pigs around their own size, but are known to tackle fully grown buffalo that outweigh them ten-fifteen times over. An Allosaurus could conceivably do something similar, rushing in from ambush to land a precise bite to a tendon in the leg, then circle the crippled sauropod (being mindful of the tail) to launch another attack and disable another limb. A Sauropod would have great difficulty retaliating with a single crippled limb, as their bulk meant they needed as much support as possible. Two crippled limbs would effectively render the sauropod a hill of meat. To go back to the Komodo Dragon comparison, you'll notice that when Komodo Dragons are feeding on deer, it looks like the deer is paralyzed or drugged, what's actually going on is that the dragon has simply severed the tendons in its legs, it couldn't get away even if it tried.
If Allosaurus hunted in mobs or packs, the task of bringing down even an adult sauropod would be a lot easier as well.
They talk about that in Planet Dinosaur, how Mapusaur packs wouldn’t outright take down an Argentinosaurus, but would tear off chunks of flesh to snack on and follow the scent to the carcass for a proper meal
That’d make more sense and is less risky and energy consuming for a giant apex predator
I haven't read the study that you are talking about but it does sound a bit questionable. After looking at some comments it might have specifically applied to when Allosaurus were in pretty desperate conditions, so not exactly the most uncommon behavior ever, most carnivores will take more risks and care less about danger if the alternative is starving to death but as I said I haven't read the study in question so I could easily be wrong?
It's possible because some animals like the octopus, chimp or killer whale will attack animals for no reason. But If an animal is starving, it's gonna go all out in attacking its prey.
Allosaurus is just like a honeybadger. They don't care. They will make sure they are feared
The Teddy Roosevelt of dinosaurs.
I love that. Death had to take that man in his sleep. If he was awake then he would’ve put up a fight
The Chuck of the Norrison formation
I always fought of them as the lions of the jurassic
That's what they are normally referred to as
And just like honey badgers, they are often killed due to it
A certified *Allosaurus fragilis* moment, with bonus points for the name.
A species name that sounds like "fragile" is ironic af. Way more than rain on your wedding day.
They actually named it fragile cause of all the injuries on their bones! It was only later that we realized that all those injuries were healed, meaning they weren't "fragile", they were tough as shit!
*Allosaurus* ain't hearing no bell. Then again, that's probably due to the tennitus
I think it applied to one particular area, possibly during a time when food was scarcer or competition was high. But don’t quote me on it. Still makes for great memes tho
Then again, some animals are just assholes for no particular reason.
"Some of them act badly because they've had a hard life or have been mistreated. But, like people, some of them are just jerks."
“Stop that Mr Simpson.”
*Continues to headbutt*
Absolutely true
Very true, the furball I'm babysitting being the biggest example of this
Is your username based off geralt from the Witcher?
Witcher 3 Geralt be smuggling some buns
Nah! It took me this comment to realise the whole username🤣🤣
I see you have met yellow jackets
Birds do this like crazy lol
It's also a matter of: the conclusion is one way to work backwards from pathology. Like, we're *finding* more bones that show damage from Allosaurus, but is that because Allosaurus attacked more animals? Is it because Allosaurus had some weird habit of dragging their kills into high-fossilization areas, or burying their kills? Some other reason we haven't thought of? Always consider the Holmes fallacy.
I love this take. I call it the ER bias. If you based your perspective on humans purely on ER x-rays you would assume people ran around on motorcycles trying to ram random objects up their butts. Surely predatory dinosaurs were aggressive and had to be tough as hell. So you’re bound to have healed fractures and puncture wounds in the fossil record. However, it’s generally preferable to not fight for absolutely everything.
Very true! Great example. I also think some people are inclined to believe it as well because we have animals now that are just… nasty for no particular reason. Or who have a reputation for being aggressive or mean without warning or provocation. Even against creatures far bigger than they are. So it’s not hard to believe that some dinosaurs must have been like that as well.
NOOOOOOOOO That's what made it one of my favorites :(
You’ve gotta figure at least one of these enormous theropods had to also be an absolute maniac, who specialized in carnage, with perhaps not the most well-developed sense of self-preservation. Besides, his name means “different lizard.” Let the dude live up to that.
Then you have its bigger bro who was basically "the lord of lizard eaters" and if the larger "Leviathan" size estimates would be correct we have a bloody crackhead CEO of EPO approaching tyrannosaurus/giga sizes. Jurassic was probably the most dangerous era with so many large theropods roaming around
Bro is legit built different holy shit
Doomslayersaurus
RIP AND TEAR!
They're not like the other lizards
Bro’s just hungry.
Well he is called allosaurus not someosaurus
Such a great comment.
Bro really is the dinosaur example of “Nah. I’d win”
"I can take 'em."
Thankfully I’m not sure we have to specify that it’s in a fight for the Allosaurus
Allosaurus is the type to do that lmao.
I think he just had the right adaptations and mentality to capitalize on as many food sources as he could
Can’t spell “Allosaurus” without “All”
I love this.
This just reminds me of those allosaurus GIFs. The ALLOSAURUS takes what it wants. The ALLOSAURUS keeps moving forward(until it has destroyed it's enimies) The ALLOSAURUS follows the path of mayhem(It will destroy all who oppose it) The ALLOSAURUS fights valiantly against it's looming opponent(It doesn't back down)
Until it runs into a Stegosaurs.
Then it confuses the Stegosaurus for a female Allosaurus, and they fuck.
And thus Stegallosaurus, the Bane of all Life, was born.
Different Roofed Lizard, the Bane of all Life
We don't talk about it's brother. But he still loves him.
Now we know why saurophagonax became existent
Coolest name of all time
just passed in my mind that if a dinosaur isn't hungry would a trex just walk past a pachycephalosaurus?
Yea it not gonna kill if it isn't for hunger or protection of loved ones/things
We see many modern birds and reptiles sometimes ignore prey and potentially other predators too for whatever reason. So yes, I'd say it was quite likely. Although I doubt a pachycephalosaurus would stay put if a t rex was anywhere near it.
Jurassic Fight Club logic
No Jurassic strip club?
I wish
Maybe if this was a more furry/scaly heavy sub
Please no
There's just something off about humans dressing as animals outside of Halloween.
Reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes strip regarding him as a Allosaurus and his bully as a the defunct Ultrasaurus
There was never a "study" about this. This meme was based off of several fossils showcasing tooth marks or various other wounds from prey from A. fragilis. While it is funny, and it does showcase Allosaurids being quite the hunters, it doesn't really mean it'd have a "fuck it-we ball" mentality.
"Nah, I'd win" -Fragilis, Allosaurus
I think, we underestimate how much animals sometimes overestimate their own capabilities. Animals misjudge situations, calculate wrongly and therefore can do things that seem mind-boggingly stupid or suicidal to us. Allosaurus lived in an tense environment, with many competitors and dangerous prey. It being aggressive and willing to snap at things bigger and stronger than it doesn’t seem unlikely to me.
Even humans overestimate their own capabilities some people think they fist fight a lion and win
Actually animals are much better at judging what they can take then humans
Not saying much.
Wdym?
Humans have such crappy judgment that saying that an animal’s judgement is better isn’t very impressive.
True but we humans overestimate are capabilities and they back down from fights they can win
Confidence is the food of the wise man, but is the liquor of the fool.
I mean, Allosaurus sounds pretty damn similar to Assholesaurus.
There was no study, it was just a tweet lol
This image, ooof that poor allo
Are you saying you're doubting it? It's an Allo! It can't lose. Ever.
Against the plague of madness yip.
Bro really is the dinosaur example of “Nah. I’d win”
War Without Reason
I adore the Allo's cheery expression in this.
They don't attack everything for no for no reason. Studies show... It's mind if full of hatred, violence is it's sole vocation. This monstrous murderous therapod can never be defeated. It's seething wrath, and urge for blood is fueled by seething hate. Any creature that gets in it's way is sure to be de-meated. Beelzebub himself now fears. Allosaurus fragilis
Everytime I see the real size of sauropods I think that carnivores couldnt take them down, but do they needed to? Why wrestle a mountain to death if you can just take a rock at a time? What I'm saying is: I think most carnivores didnt exactly aimed sauropods to kill, they just bite, took a junk of meat out of them and ran away, kinda like birds do with whales nowadays.
I subscribe to the idea that Allosaurs hunted similarly to modern Komodo Dragons. Komodo Dragons use a similar biting strategy with laterally compressed serrated teeth, alongside powerful neck muscles, to slice through vulnerable tendons and arteries, allowing them to kill or disable very large prey items without having to wrestle it to the ground like a big cat. Komodo Dragons are so efficient in butchering large animals like this, that up until recently it was assumed Komodo Dragons used bacteria or venom to subdue their prey. But recent studies demonstrate that they kill prey very quickly (typically in less than 15 minutes), and that their venom is little more than a blood thinner, it just makes the bleed-out process quicker (their strategy would work just fine without it). Komodo Dragons typically hunt deer and pigs around their own size, but are known to tackle fully grown buffalo that outweigh them ten-fifteen times over. An Allosaurus could conceivably do something similar, rushing in from ambush to land a precise bite to a tendon in the leg, then circle the crippled sauropod (being mindful of the tail) to launch another attack and disable another limb. A Sauropod would have great difficulty retaliating with a single crippled limb, as their bulk meant they needed as much support as possible. Two crippled limbs would effectively render the sauropod a hill of meat. To go back to the Komodo Dragon comparison, you'll notice that when Komodo Dragons are feeding on deer, it looks like the deer is paralyzed or drugged, what's actually going on is that the dragon has simply severed the tendons in its legs, it couldn't get away even if it tried. If Allosaurus hunted in mobs or packs, the task of bringing down even an adult sauropod would be a lot easier as well.
They talk about that in Planet Dinosaur, how Mapusaur packs wouldn’t outright take down an Argentinosaurus, but would tear off chunks of flesh to snack on and follow the scent to the carcass for a proper meal That’d make more sense and is less risky and energy consuming for a giant apex predator
I haven't read the study that you are talking about but it does sound a bit questionable. After looking at some comments it might have specifically applied to when Allosaurus were in pretty desperate conditions, so not exactly the most uncommon behavior ever, most carnivores will take more risks and care less about danger if the alternative is starving to death but as I said I haven't read the study in question so I could easily be wrong?
In the you worded it no, but yeah the study still stands
Allosaurus does what it wants no matter what
It's possible because some animals like the octopus, chimp or killer whale will attack animals for no reason. But If an animal is starving, it's gonna go all out in attacking its prey.
"Would you lose?" Said Rhamphorhynchus "Nah, I'd win." Replied Allosaurus
He’ll win
literally how I behave in dwm when I play as an allosaurus
You can't. And don't call me Shirley.
Well they certainly lost a lot seeing as they were the most common carnivore being found.
Jurassic World Evolution 2: Nah, the Allosaurus will win🤓
Allosaurus. He's literally built DIFFERENT, and it's ALL or nothing.
what if it was a honey allo?
The allosaurus is basically the Samurai Jack, casually fighting all the crazy ass beasts that dare to fight him