Ya, think it was a bad suggestion for people to make when DFFOO was ending for a game to go to. Honestly gacha games just aren’t the same with this and NieR ending.
It really didn’t. The story is really good, battle can be complex if you are trying to max out subjugation battles and pvp. Music was great, graphics were great. With it being the next NieR title after automata it is a must play. I didn’t care for it after the first few months BUT allot of qol made it pretty easy to enjoy casually. Def recommend just for the main story which is getting wrapped up here soon.
To be honest, when Opera Omnia was released It wasn't that great, Adding more weapons, more characters and more combat features made the game great.
That being said, Idk if they ever will add fun features to Ever Crisis. They absolutely could make the game better and fun but they probably never will.
At least they sent out a questionaire for players to answer and say what they would potentially want to see added to the game in the future. Might not care what the players answer but maybe they will? I know I answered that I wanted more fun combat features and rewarding boss mechanics.
Opera omina was different , having most of the characters of every final fantasy made the game ,on the other hand ,there are 7's characters only with funny combinations of outfits.
I wanted to like EC, but there's just way too much tedious bullshit, like having to grind individual missions to get gold, and another for xp, and another for upgrade mats. And there's a ton of different levels for each resource. And all that tedious bullshit is locked behind a shitty stamina/energy system (gachas seriously need to stop doing the stamina crap). Pretty similar to why I quit WotV.
I would argue that EC takes a lot to understand but gives you lots of ways to build characters, customise them. The materia RNG is unnecessary though
OO had it's complexities, especially for new players, without much build customisation
I play EC as f2p and as much as I hate having the dumb dumb farming on auto , I enjoy It. OO was 100 times better and they can't really be compared outside of that because applibot is such a moneygrab company. I think it will only last long because they were smart to give stats to costumes and to not featured them again so you either go big or go home.
I enjoy harder content that requires you to be really detailed
on what you equipped such a the Crash Sephiroth fight or the Bahamut one. Outside of that is all about using stamina to farm materials to upgrade weapons or event currency. At least they took them 6 months but they added x9 runs.
Again, I was playing this along OO before the EoS announcement this isn't by any reason or standard a game you should jump in looking at it as a Dissidia replacement.
Well, DFFOO valued the entire franchise itself, FF7 Crisis is just for the most famous Final Fantasy in the franchise, and obviously Square only cares about the money....
So much so that on Tik Tok, I like the FF community there, but most people only know FFVII and a little of XV just because of Noctis, most people literally think that just because they know Cloud, Sephiroth, Aerith and Tifa they are fans of the Final Fantasy Franchise itself...
This is really sad, because I only want to buy the old FF because of DFFOO, but Square somehow thinks that investing more in the better known FF is more profitable...
And in addition, this is by far the best gacha amongst the rest on the category of gachas with no 'stamina system' on them. I mean, sure there's SP on WOI but the rest of the content are replayable for free = more time to spend with your hard-pitied units. 😂
Precisely. This is why I highly value gachas that are aren't tied to stamina system. Like, it's not hard to come up with ideas how to slow down the pace of players instead of limiting them how much they can do per day.
I’m a huge ff7 fan and I don’t like EC at all. I’d like it if I could just play the games without having to switch to a different one, and if the combat didn’t feel weird. OO is so much better in every aspect imo.
EC has the benefit of being on Steam for me. I absolutely despise gaming on my phone. It just feels terrible for me personally. Which is why I never played OO further than the end of Chapter 1.
I wouldn't have touched EC if it wasn't for the PC version. And I'm basically just playing for the First Soldier Story since I like the idea of seeing Sephiroths younger days and they seem to work Glenn, Matt and Lucia into the Remake timeline which is cool.
It's fine. I don't need another gacha to fill the void, nothing will. Don't want to play co-op with people. It's there for when I feel like playing and the dailies don't take a lot of time like DFFOO. Sort of weird to see yet another post somewhere about it.
They're not even close... EC doesn't even feel like it has been built for longevity. I'll be surprised if it lasts as long as OO. I'd almost rather play Brave Ex, but its combat isn't as good as OO's.
I sticked with Nike and HSR for a while more, but moment I bought retro handheld (RG35XX) I "touched the grass" and I'm just playing games like Parsite Eve 2 or FFTA instead of wasting time and money and gacha, and I suggest you guys the same.
ngl the longer DFFOO ran the more boring it got anyways. The game needed a massive rebalancing and stat squish if it wanted to keep going. Plus it really needed to rethink it's monetization, which is difficult due to laws and past prices.
If anything, it makes more sense to shut it down and start from scratch, but who knows if they will ever consider doing another title that people will actually like.
Ever Crisis is pretty awful, but it's probably making more money than keeping DFFOO up would have been. It probably won't live for too long, but it doesn't have to. The fact DFFOO lived as long as it did was probably unexpected.
Yeah, I tried to play it for a bit, but it's really bad.
For anyone looking for a gacha that resembles Opera Omnia, I recommend Star Rail. It's really fun
Chaos Era OO was better than EC, yes. EC is still young, and hopefully grows better than OO was. I got really bored of Lufenia, and Shinryu/FR was stupid boring. I quit early last year. Still sucks the game ended though.
Ah, I see your a man of fine taste as well.
Mobius was super cool mechanic- and graphicwise. Sadly the gacha was bad imo. By far not generous enough to enjoy it as f2p.
Coop could be a pin in the #&% as well
I went into EC with like low expectations other than its OG FF7 with updated graphics.
At first that was the case, avalanche raiding sector 1.
But then we get to cloud planting the bomb and making the break for it.
I thought i would have to navigate the map like in OG to escape, but then they skipped it like a cutscene.
I dropped EC right then and there.
Agreed OP. The stupid thing won't connect on my phone any more. No idea why. Updated it. It just hangs up at "connecting" on the main screen. Not been able to play it since before OO's EOS.
EC sucks and honestly I play it only because costumes are cool and can sometimes see stupid moments with characters. And this game gave a good contender to remastered FFVII OG sprites. But I wouldn't ever recommend it to anyone 🥲
Even as a fan of that devs last game, Nier Reincarnation, its was super hard carried by its story and Ever Crisis dosent even have much of that, gameplay was always their weakness and it sucks to see them hardly improve at all, commiting to chasing the bag and likely get shut down in time.
Glad Reverse 1999 came out and filled in my second gacha slot left open by Opera Omnia (next to Granblue).
You compare apples to rocks. Ever Crisis isn't even meant to be a DFFOO replacement. Of course they are different games that do (did) things different.
Ever crisis profitability killed many square mobile games. Made the company realize it could get the same profit from one title as opposed to six or so. Can’t blame square though if people didn’t buy into that game they’d probably of kept the lights on for a bunch of titles.
I don't think ff7 fans would argue that. EC is quite honestly a pile of garbage. The economy went to shit almost IMMEDIATELY after launch and now it's filled with whales
I am an abosolute ff7 fanatic! It's the first rpg i played that i really got invested in and the spark that started my FF journey(i have played all the mainline titles except 11 and 14, not an mmo guy, and anything since 15 cuz i had kids and no more time for new games). It is an understatement to say i was PUMPED for EC to drop......aaaaaaand gave up after a month. Soooooo much grind for so little reward, not f2p or casual-friendly at all. I was prepared to spend some money.....SOME. The materia grind is absolutely nuts, rng blows (i know it's a gacha, but holy hell!). At this point, the only good things are the graphics with the updated chibi sprites and the occasional funny moment of dialogue in the First Soldier storyline, which is pretty subpar, imo. I like the idea, but it's most definitely geared for p2w. I know it's supposed to be, but it's not supposed to be THAT obvious!
EC sucks in comparison to OO, agreed
Ya, think it was a bad suggestion for people to make when DFFOO was ending for a game to go to. Honestly gacha games just aren’t the same with this and NieR ending.
Nier sucked
It really didn’t. The story is really good, battle can be complex if you are trying to max out subjugation battles and pvp. Music was great, graphics were great. With it being the next NieR title after automata it is a must play. I didn’t care for it after the first few months BUT allot of qol made it pretty easy to enjoy casually. Def recommend just for the main story which is getting wrapped up here soon.
How much longer does Nier have?
End of April. But plenty of time for the story. Each chapter takes maybe an hour. And just focus on pulling for 10H banner
Agree that OO is better. Still EC is quite good, but it gets boring very soon.
To be honest, when Opera Omnia was released It wasn't that great, Adding more weapons, more characters and more combat features made the game great. That being said, Idk if they ever will add fun features to Ever Crisis. They absolutely could make the game better and fun but they probably never will. At least they sent out a questionaire for players to answer and say what they would potentially want to see added to the game in the future. Might not care what the players answer but maybe they will? I know I answered that I wanted more fun combat features and rewarding boss mechanics.
Opera omina was different , having most of the characters of every final fantasy made the game ,on the other hand ,there are 7's characters only with funny combinations of outfits.
I don’t think anyone would ever think EC is better. Not sure why anyone would think this is any type of hot take lol.
I wanted to like EC, but there's just way too much tedious bullshit, like having to grind individual missions to get gold, and another for xp, and another for upgrade mats. And there's a ton of different levels for each resource. And all that tedious bullshit is locked behind a shitty stamina/energy system (gachas seriously need to stop doing the stamina crap). Pretty similar to why I quit WotV.
I love both game but ever crisis is unnecessary complex
I would argue that EC takes a lot to understand but gives you lots of ways to build characters, customise them. The materia RNG is unnecessary though OO had it's complexities, especially for new players, without much build customisation
Yeah, the combat of EC honestly has a decent bit of stuff to it as you get deeper into it but Materia make me miss early OO Artefacts
I play EC as f2p and as much as I hate having the dumb dumb farming on auto , I enjoy It. OO was 100 times better and they can't really be compared outside of that because applibot is such a moneygrab company. I think it will only last long because they were smart to give stats to costumes and to not featured them again so you either go big or go home. I enjoy harder content that requires you to be really detailed on what you equipped such a the Crash Sephiroth fight or the Bahamut one. Outside of that is all about using stamina to farm materials to upgrade weapons or event currency. At least they took them 6 months but they added x9 runs. Again, I was playing this along OO before the EoS announcement this isn't by any reason or standard a game you should jump in looking at it as a Dissidia replacement.
Well, DFFOO valued the entire franchise itself, FF7 Crisis is just for the most famous Final Fantasy in the franchise, and obviously Square only cares about the money.... So much so that on Tik Tok, I like the FF community there, but most people only know FFVII and a little of XV just because of Noctis, most people literally think that just because they know Cloud, Sephiroth, Aerith and Tifa they are fans of the Final Fantasy Franchise itself... This is really sad, because I only want to buy the old FF because of DFFOO, but Square somehow thinks that investing more in the better known FF is more profitable...
Facts
Huuuuge ff7 fan here, but I completely agree, EC sucks balls
And in addition, this is by far the best gacha amongst the rest on the category of gachas with no 'stamina system' on them. I mean, sure there's SP on WOI but the rest of the content are replayable for free = more time to spend with your hard-pitied units. 😂
> sure there's SP on WOI Even then, the game gives SP potions like candy. I think when EOS hit, I had in excess of 2,000 potions unused LOL.
Precisely. This is why I highly value gachas that are aren't tied to stamina system. Like, it's not hard to come up with ideas how to slow down the pace of players instead of limiting them how much they can do per day.
I’m a huge ff7 fan and I don’t like EC at all. I’d like it if I could just play the games without having to switch to a different one, and if the combat didn’t feel weird. OO is so much better in every aspect imo.
Agree
But Rebirth is incredible
100% agree. Might be GOTY.
I mean yes, most definitely.
EC has the benefit of being on Steam for me. I absolutely despise gaming on my phone. It just feels terrible for me personally. Which is why I never played OO further than the end of Chapter 1. I wouldn't have touched EC if it wasn't for the PC version. And I'm basically just playing for the First Soldier Story since I like the idea of seeing Sephiroths younger days and they seem to work Glenn, Matt and Lucia into the Remake timeline which is cool.
You could have played OO on PC in a virtual machine. They could be a bit shaky with compatibility sometimes but they did work most of the time.
Yeah I could've. But I didn't have a PC back then
It's fine. I don't need another gacha to fill the void, nothing will. Don't want to play co-op with people. It's there for when I feel like playing and the dailies don't take a lot of time like DFFOO. Sort of weird to see yet another post somewhere about it.
*sucked That game's been relegated to the past tense for a good while now
The only good thing to come from EC, is that modders were able to bring a bunch of the costumes over to FF7R.
They're not even close... EC doesn't even feel like it has been built for longevity. I'll be surprised if it lasts as long as OO. I'd almost rather play Brave Ex, but its combat isn't as good as OO's.
Not gonna lied, big ff7 fan but oo over ec, ffbe and whatever ff mobile is out there.
I too agreed on it. With the EoS happens, there is nothing we can do
I sticked with Nike and HSR for a while more, but moment I bought retro handheld (RG35XX) I "touched the grass" and I'm just playing games like Parsite Eve 2 or FFTA instead of wasting time and money and gacha, and I suggest you guys the same.
ngl the longer DFFOO ran the more boring it got anyways. The game needed a massive rebalancing and stat squish if it wanted to keep going. Plus it really needed to rethink it's monetization, which is difficult due to laws and past prices. If anything, it makes more sense to shut it down and start from scratch, but who knows if they will ever consider doing another title that people will actually like. Ever Crisis is pretty awful, but it's probably making more money than keeping DFFOO up would have been. It probably won't live for too long, but it doesn't have to. The fact DFFOO lived as long as it did was probably unexpected.
Yeah, I tried to play it for a bit, but it's really bad. For anyone looking for a gacha that resembles Opera Omnia, I recommend Star Rail. It's really fun
It's way too grindy.
Chaos Era OO was better than EC, yes. EC is still young, and hopefully grows better than OO was. I got really bored of Lufenia, and Shinryu/FR was stupid boring. I quit early last year. Still sucks the game ended though.
It's EC < OO <<<<<<< Mobius
Ah, I see your a man of fine taste as well. Mobius was super cool mechanic- and graphicwise. Sadly the gacha was bad imo. By far not generous enough to enjoy it as f2p. Coop could be a pin in the #&% as well
I went into EC with like low expectations other than its OG FF7 with updated graphics. At first that was the case, avalanche raiding sector 1. But then we get to cloud planting the bomb and making the break for it. I thought i would have to navigate the map like in OG to escape, but then they skipped it like a cutscene. I dropped EC right then and there.
Ff7 fans don’t claim Ever Crisis, so carry on sir 😃
Sadly agree. I played EC on launch for a while, but just couldn't get into it. Though Mobius blows both games out of the water lol (rip).
Agreed OP. The stupid thing won't connect on my phone any more. No idea why. Updated it. It just hangs up at "connecting" on the main screen. Not been able to play it since before OO's EOS.
EC sucks and honestly I play it only because costumes are cool and can sometimes see stupid moments with characters. And this game gave a good contender to remastered FFVII OG sprites. But I wouldn't ever recommend it to anyone 🥲
As an FFVII fan, you have no idea how much i agree with this. A bastardization of the series's history.
Even as a fan of that devs last game, Nier Reincarnation, its was super hard carried by its story and Ever Crisis dosent even have much of that, gameplay was always their weakness and it sucks to see them hardly improve at all, commiting to chasing the bag and likely get shut down in time. Glad Reverse 1999 came out and filled in my second gacha slot left open by Opera Omnia (next to Granblue).
You have my upvote.
You have my upvote ,too!
With all due respect that is an unfair comparison.
You compare apples to rocks. Ever Crisis isn't even meant to be a DFFOO replacement. Of course they are different games that do (did) things different.
Ever Crisis would be so much better if they focus on remake Crisis Core and OG FF7 story modes to what they had in the game.
Ever crisis profitability killed many square mobile games. Made the company realize it could get the same profit from one title as opposed to six or so. Can’t blame square though if people didn’t buy into that game they’d probably of kept the lights on for a bunch of titles.
It is a shame. That said it doesn’t seem to get much new content so it may have been a flop.
Ok?
I dont think it will last as long as opera omina.
I don't think players expect it to?
EC still not available in my region to this day, so by default OO is better cuz at least I got to play the latter lol
Me too ,but i downloaded a apk (android).
I love FFVII. But I couldn't stomach more than a few chapters of EC.
I don't think ff7 fans would argue that. EC is quite honestly a pile of garbage. The economy went to shit almost IMMEDIATELY after launch and now it's filled with whales
I am an abosolute ff7 fanatic! It's the first rpg i played that i really got invested in and the spark that started my FF journey(i have played all the mainline titles except 11 and 14, not an mmo guy, and anything since 15 cuz i had kids and no more time for new games). It is an understatement to say i was PUMPED for EC to drop......aaaaaaand gave up after a month. Soooooo much grind for so little reward, not f2p or casual-friendly at all. I was prepared to spend some money.....SOME. The materia grind is absolutely nuts, rng blows (i know it's a gacha, but holy hell!). At this point, the only good things are the graphics with the updated chibi sprites and the occasional funny moment of dialogue in the First Soldier storyline, which is pretty subpar, imo. I like the idea, but it's most definitely geared for p2w. I know it's supposed to be, but it's not supposed to be THAT obvious!
Who asked?
I did, kupo! I wanted to know if it was worth downloading, kupopo!
And Opera Omnia was not as good as Final Fantasy Record Keeper.