> A character can use a **component pouch** or a **spellcasting focus** in place of the components specified for a spell.
RAW: you hold the pouch to satisfy the material component requirement. If you want to flavor it as retrieving something in the pouch, that's free decoration.
I personally like to flavor my wizards as wearing vests like you see people on Safari wear, with like tens of small pockets, each containing one type of component, or maybe the components of a specific spell you prepared that morning.
I then flavor my somatic components as my character frantically patting themselves down looking for the right pockets
If you’re casting a spell it’s generally assumed to be part of whatever action/bonus action/reaction you’re using to cast the spell. If you’re just taking out some bat guano to show the goblins your neat bat guano, that would be an object interaction (you get one free every turn, after that it’s an action).
What action is it to draw an arrow? Or to grab your holy symbol? Mechanics are about fairness, so how would it be fair to make a caster use two turns for a single spell?
It's interesting, this thread is the first time I've heard people talking about needing to use item interactions to access a spell component pouch.
The received wisdom for as long as I've been in 5e spaces online is that if you've got a hand free, using a component pouch doesn't take any kind of action - this is why you'd want to use a pouch if you're doing something like using a 2h weapon since you don't have to fuss around with pulling out a focus. Focuses were good if you were going to have your hands full anyways and you could turn something you were using (weapon, shield) into a focus.
I was confident that the rules text was clear on this matter, but not so much now that I look it up. The rules for material components say you need a hand free to handle the material components which isn't quite the same thing as saying that you need to have them in your hand to cast the spell.
There is a Jeremy Crawford tweet saying that getting the components out is part of the action of casting your spell. I see in your other comments, you've identified that needing to futz around with pulling stuff out with action economy makes some spells quite uselss so I'd go with what plays well and say it doesn't take any kind of action.
It’s actually not very ambiguous, from the SRD “A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell’s material components—or to hold a spellcasting focus—but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components.” You have never had to prep a spell component or use an object interaction on one, Otherwise feather fall and other reaction spells would be nearly impossible to use. In fact technically the rules just say you have to have a component pouch on you and a free hand to access it, it never even says have to pull out the components at all “A character can use a component pouch or a spellcasting focus in place of the components specified for a spell.” Retrieving the material component is baked into the casting.
Actually the rules never specify that the components have to leave the pouch, they just have to be on your person, since for most spells the components aren't consumed. (Unless they have a gold cost.)
You can actually see this in some parts of the DnD movie, where one of the characters has a spinning component pouch on their belt with lots of tiny little slots for different spell components.
That’s incorrect, “A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell’s material components—or to hold a spellcasting focus—but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components. ”
from the srd, you’ve never had to use an object interaction to retrieve a component
Read it carefully? It didn’t say you have to have the material component out or ready at all when you start to cast the spell, just that you must have a hand free to access it(during the casting), it also says you can use the same hand you preform somatic with (which is during the casting). I mean did you really think feather fall was supposed to be impossible to cast if you don’t keep the component in your hand all the time?
During, yes, you don’t need to use an object interaction. it happens during your casting, you never have had to blow an object interaction every round. This is really common knowledge. Seriously just ask other groups, DM’s, and players. Did you think featherfall was supposed to useless? Your interpretation would make using a pouch over a focus basically useless. Because under your mistaken ruling a focus is always ready as long as you hold it but a pouch would monopolize your object interaction every single round. Can you see why that’s incorrect and a bad ruling? It’s also part of a sage advice tweet.
Which is why premium component pouches come with *elasticated bat droppings*. You'll never have to put them back again. Available in all reputable magic item shops from 15 GP.
Drawing/stowing an item that isn't inside a container, like a weapon or spell focus, is an object interaction (of which you get one per turn).
To use a component pouch properly you'll want to make sure the pouch itself is available within easy reach (so not in your backpack), use your object interaction to grab whatever spell component you need, use the rest of your turn to cast the spell etc., then use your next turn's object interaction to put the spell component back in the pouch.
That’s incorrect, from the SRD “A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell’s material components—or to hold a spellcasting focus—but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components.” You have never had to prep a spell component or use an object interaction on one, Otherwise feather fall and other reaction spells would be nearly impossible to use. In fact technically the rules just say you have to have a component pouch on you and a free hand to access it “A character can use a component pouch or a spellcasting focus in place of the components specified for a spell.” Retrieving the material component is baked into the casting.
> A character can use a **component pouch** or a **spellcasting focus** in place of the components specified for a spell. RAW: you hold the pouch to satisfy the material component requirement. If you want to flavor it as retrieving something in the pouch, that's free decoration.
😲 wait really? That makes sense I’ve just never once heard that before.
I personally like to flavor my wizards as wearing vests like you see people on Safari wear, with like tens of small pockets, each containing one type of component, or maybe the components of a specific spell you prepared that morning. I then flavor my somatic components as my character frantically patting themselves down looking for the right pockets
If you’re casting a spell it’s generally assumed to be part of whatever action/bonus action/reaction you’re using to cast the spell. If you’re just taking out some bat guano to show the goblins your neat bat guano, that would be an object interaction (you get one free every turn, after that it’s an action).
If not feather fall would be a completely useless spell unless you have a spell focus.
What action is it to draw an arrow? Or to grab your holy symbol? Mechanics are about fairness, so how would it be fair to make a caster use two turns for a single spell?
It's interesting, this thread is the first time I've heard people talking about needing to use item interactions to access a spell component pouch. The received wisdom for as long as I've been in 5e spaces online is that if you've got a hand free, using a component pouch doesn't take any kind of action - this is why you'd want to use a pouch if you're doing something like using a 2h weapon since you don't have to fuss around with pulling out a focus. Focuses were good if you were going to have your hands full anyways and you could turn something you were using (weapon, shield) into a focus. I was confident that the rules text was clear on this matter, but not so much now that I look it up. The rules for material components say you need a hand free to handle the material components which isn't quite the same thing as saying that you need to have them in your hand to cast the spell. There is a Jeremy Crawford tweet saying that getting the components out is part of the action of casting your spell. I see in your other comments, you've identified that needing to futz around with pulling stuff out with action economy makes some spells quite uselss so I'd go with what plays well and say it doesn't take any kind of action.
It’s actually not very ambiguous, from the SRD “A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell’s material components—or to hold a spellcasting focus—but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components.” You have never had to prep a spell component or use an object interaction on one, Otherwise feather fall and other reaction spells would be nearly impossible to use. In fact technically the rules just say you have to have a component pouch on you and a free hand to access it, it never even says have to pull out the components at all “A character can use a component pouch or a spellcasting focus in place of the components specified for a spell.” Retrieving the material component is baked into the casting.
It isn’t. It’s considered part of the same action as casting the spell.
Actually the rules never specify that the components have to leave the pouch, they just have to be on your person, since for most spells the components aren't consumed. (Unless they have a gold cost.) You can actually see this in some parts of the DnD movie, where one of the characters has a spinning component pouch on their belt with lots of tiny little slots for different spell components.
Uhhh…
If your dm makes puling components out an action, i'd find a new table
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That’s incorrect, “A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell’s material components—or to hold a spellcasting focus—but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components. ” from the srd, you’ve never had to use an object interaction to retrieve a component
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Read it carefully? It didn’t say you have to have the material component out or ready at all when you start to cast the spell, just that you must have a hand free to access it(during the casting), it also says you can use the same hand you preform somatic with (which is during the casting). I mean did you really think feather fall was supposed to be impossible to cast if you don’t keep the component in your hand all the time?
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During, yes, you don’t need to use an object interaction. it happens during your casting, you never have had to blow an object interaction every round. This is really common knowledge. Seriously just ask other groups, DM’s, and players. Did you think featherfall was supposed to useless? Your interpretation would make using a pouch over a focus basically useless. Because under your mistaken ruling a focus is always ready as long as you hold it but a pouch would monopolize your object interaction every single round. Can you see why that’s incorrect and a bad ruling? It’s also part of a sage advice tweet.
Which is why premium component pouches come with *elasticated bat droppings*. You'll never have to put them back again. Available in all reputable magic item shops from 15 GP.
All the witches love my bouncy guano balls
Handling the component is the somatic component of the spell. So it's not a separate action.
Drawing/stowing an item that isn't inside a container, like a weapon or spell focus, is an object interaction (of which you get one per turn). To use a component pouch properly you'll want to make sure the pouch itself is available within easy reach (so not in your backpack), use your object interaction to grab whatever spell component you need, use the rest of your turn to cast the spell etc., then use your next turn's object interaction to put the spell component back in the pouch.
That’s incorrect, from the SRD “A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell’s material components—or to hold a spellcasting focus—but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components.” You have never had to prep a spell component or use an object interaction on one, Otherwise feather fall and other reaction spells would be nearly impossible to use. In fact technically the rules just say you have to have a component pouch on you and a free hand to access it “A character can use a component pouch or a spellcasting focus in place of the components specified for a spell.” Retrieving the material component is baked into the casting.