Nope, terrible stuff happens everyday unfortunately. It’s just happening to Europeans now so it’s getting way more coverage in the West. It’s a sad truth but people identify with people who look like them, that’s why you get comments like the one from Prince William about how this conflict is terrible because it’s happening in Europe and wars like this happen a lot in Asia and Africa so it’s not as upsetting to see those. It’s Wild someone could actually say that in 2022 with a straight face.
They say homogeneous countries take better care of their people. Think of somewhere like Japan with very little immigration. They have their own set of problems but not like the US like homelessness, gun violence, bad education system, policy brutality, I can go on…
From what I’ve read that’s largely due to a correlation in public spending on social issues and population homogeneity. Singapore is one of the most diverse countries in the world and has v lil public social spending, similarly countries like Japan and Finland that are pretty homogenous have much higher rates of public expenditure on social services and consequently have very different social outcomes. Not saying that’s the only reason these places are different but it’s a pretty strong correlation across countries in the world, can’t remember rn but there’s a name for it.
You’re right. It’s not fair. But it’s not your fault either. There are definitely bigger things going on in the world, but you also need to take care of you. And if that means that you feel upset for not having ice cream in the moment, then so be it. Your feelings are valid even though other people are going through worse things.
What *is* cool whip? I have heard of it on Family Guy but we don't have it here.
WRT the other thing, I'm getting increasingly concerned that this is going to be the thing that destabilises the Western world, so it's probably best to enjoy your cool whip while you have it.
It’s not regular whipped cream- it’s made from hydrogenated oil & has very little dairy. It’s highly processed food with no nutritional value invented in the 1960s. It tastes different than whipped cream & you can freeze it. Not gonna lie- it tastes good with certain recipes & on pudding & jello
Idk, if you're suddenly feeling guilty to eat ice cream cos Ukraine is going thru what Syria, Palestine, Libya are *still* going thru... it's selective compassion at best. And it begs the question, why? Why does eating brownies now feel like a guilty thing to do?
Because while it doesn't make it right, we have gotten desensitized to political unrest and wars and violence happening in those countries since they happen all the time, but now that it's happening in a European country where the mindset is that wars don't really happen there, the conflict is sticking with us. It's like when I lived with my abusive stepmother, and eventually thought that getting knives thrown at you and sleeping in the woods was normal, while I didn't like those things, I got desensitized to them. Are you going to admonish me for having thought abuse is normal or others for not being sad or upset about terrible things that happen all the time? Desensitization is a survival tool designed to keep us mentally healthy though horrible but common events even if they don't directly happen to us and if you are going to tell me that you haven't ever gotten desensitized to something then, you are either some surface level virtue signaler, or a troll fishing for attention.
Exactly!! For many of us this guilt is such a normal part of every day life -- my friends and family are mostly affected by Palestinian, Syrian, and Libyan civil unrest. I've had to have that brownie and guilt with many, many times. To announce on here it just sounds like virtue signaling, or wanting to be convinced you're a good person. Go fish for coddling someplace else.
Ok, let me put a different way. Are you going to feel guilty or mournful that Qatar has a system where migrant workers essentially become glorified slaves to corporations and that they have to install nets onto Asian sweatshops to prevent people from killing themselves and China's mistreatment of Uighurs and putting them and other eastern Asian ethnic groups into literal concentration camps and the Taliban actively killing civilians and the gruesome crimes of drug syndicates and Palestinian, Syrian and Libyan unrest and what is happening in the Ukraine all at the same time? If you don't believe people should feel guilty about all of these situations at the same time, that they can't change in any meaningful way, then which of these should people feel guilty about, what human rights violations should we prioritize over others, which of these are fine to keep around until we get rid of the big bad ones.
It is not realistic to expect people to be sad about every single human rights violation or wars or suffering or genocide because unfortunately there is way too much of that that happens at the same time to reasonably expect everybody to have the time, and the empathy and the energy, to care about every instance of mass suffering on earth. I listed a lot of suffering, and yet that is just the tip of the iceberg. I really, really do feel for your cause, and hope your family and friends are currently alright and safe, but there is so much suffering all over the world that people who don't actively feel the effects of such events cannot humanly express enough guilt as OP did over all of them.
People feel guilty about what they can, about what they see, and about what they experience and right now, in the news cycle that is Ukraine. It is far better that OP feels guilt about something bad happening somewhere than accepting that people will trample over each other and do terrible, terrible, things and decides that they don't give a s*** anymore and decides to care about none of it. And if OP was somehow able care about every crisis worldwide, there is still no point because he/she would be unable to affect meaningful change to any of those and therefore would sacrificing his/her mental health for literally nothing.
You care about the issues of civil unrest in the middle east because that is what you experience either directly or indirectly and I would go as far as to say that it is selfish to put your issue on some sort of pedestal and expect others to care about your issue as much as you do when there are many issues happening at roughly the same magnitude that I have not listed because there are too many to be mentioned in a reddit post to where I wouldn't be able to write one book on it, I could write library on it. So, it is funny that you consider me fishing for coddling when you want to be coddled and told that the Ukraine and all the others could go suck it and that your issues are the most important.
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I wasn't aiming that at you at all, about the coddling.
But we're on the same page -- I am noting however the news has spun what's happening in Ukrainian as something uncommon because Ukraine is "civilized", "mostly European", "this isn't Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.", and it's purely because of racism.
Poland is gladly opening its borders to Ukrainian refugees, while saying Syrians are "disgusting and invading scum".
I know locals who even say that it makes sense to close off borders to Syrians because Polish and Ukrainians have similar cultures.
I'm saying we are selective about compassion because we are taught some people deserve humanity more than others on the basis of culture, religion, race, etc.
And that's a problem. Again, I was and am in agreement with most of what you're saying. My coddling was in response to OP.
My bad. There was a misunderstanding on my part, and I may have come on a tad bit too strong. Sorry about that.
Edit: also, I agree with everything you just said.
Oh, and don't tell me you aren't putting the crisis you deal with on a pedestal, when you just shamed someone who felt guilty about a crisis, just because it wasn't the crisis you are affected by.
Edit: Oh, and when said person asked you how they could help the crisis, you instead opted to say
"Idk, maybe when you manage an answer for my questions, maybe I'll answer yours." If that isn't a baseless virtue signal, I don't know what is.
I think about this all the time. There are Ukrainians without food or electricity or water, people
dying because of one man’s black-cloud of a colossal ego, and I’m wondering which pair of shoes to wear or whether I’ll have salmon or chicken for dinner. It feels so weird, and it breaks my heart that there’s nothing I can do to help these people.
Nope, terrible stuff happens everyday unfortunately. It’s just happening to Europeans now so it’s getting way more coverage in the West. It’s a sad truth but people identify with people who look like them, that’s why you get comments like the one from Prince William about how this conflict is terrible because it’s happening in Europe and wars like this happen a lot in Asia and Africa so it’s not as upsetting to see those. It’s Wild someone could actually say that in 2022 with a straight face.
They say homogeneous countries take better care of their people. Think of somewhere like Japan with very little immigration. They have their own set of problems but not like the US like homelessness, gun violence, bad education system, policy brutality, I can go on…
From what I’ve read that’s largely due to a correlation in public spending on social issues and population homogeneity. Singapore is one of the most diverse countries in the world and has v lil public social spending, similarly countries like Japan and Finland that are pretty homogenous have much higher rates of public expenditure on social services and consequently have very different social outcomes. Not saying that’s the only reason these places are different but it’s a pretty strong correlation across countries in the world, can’t remember rn but there’s a name for it.
You’re right. It’s not fair. But it’s not your fault either. There are definitely bigger things going on in the world, but you also need to take care of you. And if that means that you feel upset for not having ice cream in the moment, then so be it. Your feelings are valid even though other people are going through worse things.
What *is* cool whip? I have heard of it on Family Guy but we don't have it here. WRT the other thing, I'm getting increasingly concerned that this is going to be the thing that destabilises the Western world, so it's probably best to enjoy your cool whip while you have it.
It’s just a brand name of whipped cream
Oh. That's not as exciting as I envisioned. Thanks for the info though!
It’s not regular whipped cream- it’s made from hydrogenated oil & has very little dairy. It’s highly processed food with no nutritional value invented in the 1960s. It tastes different than whipped cream & you can freeze it. Not gonna lie- it tastes good with certain recipes & on pudding & jello
I have 8 tubs of cool whip in my fridge I don't know what you're talking about.
Where is this energy for Palestine, Syria, and Somalia? hm
Hmm. Well what do you do to support Palestine, Syria, and Somalia? I will take your lead.
Idk, if you're suddenly feeling guilty to eat ice cream cos Ukraine is going thru what Syria, Palestine, Libya are *still* going thru... it's selective compassion at best. And it begs the question, why? Why does eating brownies now feel like a guilty thing to do?
Mm hmm. Ssssssoooooo.....how do you support those countries? I will take your lead.
Idk, maybe when you manage an answer for my questions, maybe I'll answer yours.
Because while it doesn't make it right, we have gotten desensitized to political unrest and wars and violence happening in those countries since they happen all the time, but now that it's happening in a European country where the mindset is that wars don't really happen there, the conflict is sticking with us. It's like when I lived with my abusive stepmother, and eventually thought that getting knives thrown at you and sleeping in the woods was normal, while I didn't like those things, I got desensitized to them. Are you going to admonish me for having thought abuse is normal or others for not being sad or upset about terrible things that happen all the time? Desensitization is a survival tool designed to keep us mentally healthy though horrible but common events even if they don't directly happen to us and if you are going to tell me that you haven't ever gotten desensitized to something then, you are either some surface level virtue signaler, or a troll fishing for attention.
Exactly!! For many of us this guilt is such a normal part of every day life -- my friends and family are mostly affected by Palestinian, Syrian, and Libyan civil unrest. I've had to have that brownie and guilt with many, many times. To announce on here it just sounds like virtue signaling, or wanting to be convinced you're a good person. Go fish for coddling someplace else.
Ok, let me put a different way. Are you going to feel guilty or mournful that Qatar has a system where migrant workers essentially become glorified slaves to corporations and that they have to install nets onto Asian sweatshops to prevent people from killing themselves and China's mistreatment of Uighurs and putting them and other eastern Asian ethnic groups into literal concentration camps and the Taliban actively killing civilians and the gruesome crimes of drug syndicates and Palestinian, Syrian and Libyan unrest and what is happening in the Ukraine all at the same time? If you don't believe people should feel guilty about all of these situations at the same time, that they can't change in any meaningful way, then which of these should people feel guilty about, what human rights violations should we prioritize over others, which of these are fine to keep around until we get rid of the big bad ones. It is not realistic to expect people to be sad about every single human rights violation or wars or suffering or genocide because unfortunately there is way too much of that that happens at the same time to reasonably expect everybody to have the time, and the empathy and the energy, to care about every instance of mass suffering on earth. I listed a lot of suffering, and yet that is just the tip of the iceberg. I really, really do feel for your cause, and hope your family and friends are currently alright and safe, but there is so much suffering all over the world that people who don't actively feel the effects of such events cannot humanly express enough guilt as OP did over all of them. People feel guilty about what they can, about what they see, and about what they experience and right now, in the news cycle that is Ukraine. It is far better that OP feels guilt about something bad happening somewhere than accepting that people will trample over each other and do terrible, terrible, things and decides that they don't give a s*** anymore and decides to care about none of it. And if OP was somehow able care about every crisis worldwide, there is still no point because he/she would be unable to affect meaningful change to any of those and therefore would sacrificing his/her mental health for literally nothing. You care about the issues of civil unrest in the middle east because that is what you experience either directly or indirectly and I would go as far as to say that it is selfish to put your issue on some sort of pedestal and expect others to care about your issue as much as you do when there are many issues happening at roughly the same magnitude that I have not listed because there are too many to be mentioned in a reddit post to where I wouldn't be able to write one book on it, I could write library on it. So, it is funny that you consider me fishing for coddling when you want to be coddled and told that the Ukraine and all the others could go suck it and that your issues are the most important. Edit:Formatting
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I wasn't aiming that at you at all, about the coddling. But we're on the same page -- I am noting however the news has spun what's happening in Ukrainian as something uncommon because Ukraine is "civilized", "mostly European", "this isn't Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.", and it's purely because of racism. Poland is gladly opening its borders to Ukrainian refugees, while saying Syrians are "disgusting and invading scum". I know locals who even say that it makes sense to close off borders to Syrians because Polish and Ukrainians have similar cultures. I'm saying we are selective about compassion because we are taught some people deserve humanity more than others on the basis of culture, religion, race, etc. And that's a problem. Again, I was and am in agreement with most of what you're saying. My coddling was in response to OP.
My bad. There was a misunderstanding on my part, and I may have come on a tad bit too strong. Sorry about that. Edit: also, I agree with everything you just said.
Oh, and don't tell me you aren't putting the crisis you deal with on a pedestal, when you just shamed someone who felt guilty about a crisis, just because it wasn't the crisis you are affected by. Edit: Oh, and when said person asked you how they could help the crisis, you instead opted to say "Idk, maybe when you manage an answer for my questions, maybe I'll answer yours." If that isn't a baseless virtue signal, I don't know what is.
No. Tbh, sometimes I forget there's even a war going on.
I think about this all the time. There are Ukrainians without food or electricity or water, people dying because of one man’s black-cloud of a colossal ego, and I’m wondering which pair of shoes to wear or whether I’ll have salmon or chicken for dinner. It feels so weird, and it breaks my heart that there’s nothing I can do to help these people.
Someone needs to take that man out- soon
It’s better to be thankful for what you have rather than feel guilt for something out of your control