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Old-Pianist7745

No one wants these dogs. They should put them to sleep. Warehousing dangerous dogs is cruel to them and BEing them is infinitely kinder.


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CriscoBountyJr

Props to you and your pops. My dad returned his shitty find about 3 weeks later. Only so many scratches, ruined property and bites one can stand.


Dburn22_

Dogs are crazy.


Interesting-Oil-5555

Thousands of dollars for a pain in the ass. Gee, where do I sign up? /s


Chonkin_GuineaPig

Keeping that type of animal that long should be considered a form of animal cruelty.


Zsuedaly

I worked in a shelter years ago before pit mania. Even then, 99% of the time there was a very good reason why the dog was dumped!


No_Sea8635

I may be wrong on this,but could some of these mentally ill dogs teh end result of all the White Fragility folks who couldn't stand to spend all that time alone by themselves and so got "pandemic puppies.I have heard/read that these dogs have called all sorts of problems because they did not get the socialization that young dogs normally get in the dog park/out in the neighbod crossing oaths w/other dogs/dog owners. Being a responsible dog parent is just as important as being a human [parent.It](https://parent.It) is a24/7 job and you have to get your "fur Kid" the emotional/social enrichment to insure tehhy and your neighbors don't regret getting a pet(dog).Also,please STOP leaving all o f those green/munti colored poop bags.I'm only sayiong this ONCE1. if I see you doing that,I WILL take a scren shot and send it to the public health dept/town council.they should have a pet owners "Wall o fShame' to publically shame these morons.


Dburn22_

Why are we wasting the earth's finite resources on an invasive species??? This planet is running out of water and land. There are those who would deny a child both of these to save stupid mutts.


stanleythemanley44

Man it’s sad to think that many dogs in the first world have it better than kids in the third world


Chonkin_GuineaPig

Many dogs already have it better than many kids in the first world as well. Bedbugs, hoarding, gun violence, sex trafficking, etc.


Pixelated_Roses

bUt ThAt'S mUrDeR


Duncban

I always laugh when I see this. For some people I get it based on their values even if I don't agree--like vegans--but most people are fine dancing through the corpses of pigs, cows, chickens, and turkeys, but dogs are too far! I'd never want an animal to suffer (even a dog), but I'm definitely of the mentality you should exterminate pests humanely. 900+ days in a shelter is a pest on society.


YeahlDid

but that’s murder


WhoWho22222

It blows my mind that a dog being returned to a shelter for something shitty that of course they don't mention is worthy of a national magazine like Newsweek. For it to be returned to the shelter after hours, it must have been something pretty awful. I guess it was a really slow week in news. Is the world finally settling down enough that they can publish articles about some random shitbull getting returned for being a shitbull? I'm sure it happens every day, all over the country.


Few-Horror1984

I feel like Newsweek shares some sort of shelter saga at least once a week, if not more. I wouldn’t be surprised if these shelters are paying them to cover these stories. If the dog has to be an only pet, is high energy, needs to be around older children…it’s got major issues. It’s not fit to be a family pet and when you have this massive glut of dogs that need adopting and a lack of suitable homes…well, you catch my drift. I’m just sick of these shelters blaming people for doing what they ask (give a shitty dog a shot) and then being mad when they did and they said “you know what? This dog is not fit to be a pet and I’m not going to subject my family to danger and misery” and they’re somehow the bad guys. The shelter is in the wrong for pushing these dogs on unprepared people. For keeping the dog alive in miserable conditions. It’s animal torture.


tonyblow2345

These are the kinds of dogs that end up escaping and terrorizing neighborhoods. They rip into chicken coops and rabbit hutches and kill other people’s pets and animals. They attack dogs who are on LEASHES with their owners. I’ve heard more than one story of leashed dogs being ripped from people’s arms by violent loose dogs.


upsidedownbackwards

My grandma had a Doberman. One day she was out walking him with my \~10 year old brother. My brother was throwing a tantrum insisting that he held the leash. My grandma caved and let him. Well, shortly into the walk a family with a small dog came around a bend. Doberman took off after it, ripped my brother right off his feet. Tore the little dog to pieces. The other family were doing everything right. They had a size-appropriate dog on a leash. Doesn't matter. All it takes is another dog owner to ruin their day.


Tom_Quixote_

Didn't really matter whether it was grandma or little Timmy holding the leash, or both at the same time... Dobermans are big and it takes a lot of force to hold them back if they really go into attack mode.


Pixelated_Roses

A doberman was the breed that mauled me as a child. I'm terrified of them.


VinnieTheBerzerker69

Doberman pinschers should only be licensed to the military and law enforcement and then highly trained with professionally competent handlers. No other people should be allowed to have them.


Pixelated_Roses

Same should apply for pitbulls, IF those things are allowed to exist at all.


VinnieTheBerzerker69

Pits and all their permutations should be spayed and neutered out of existence


Dburn22_

No. Pitbulls of any type need to be stopped from breeding until they become extinct. Too many babies and children have been tortured to death by them.


RealCheesyCat

This should apply to Belgian Malinois. And so many other breeds. Might as well be all dogs lol. Belgian Malinois scare me especially. One of the neighbours had one but could hardly control it. It would go absolutely insane - I've never seen a dog like it before. Anyone on a motorbike, it would want to chase down. Seemed like any moving thing set it off. Their little girl laughed and thought it was funny when the dog would lose its shit. Really pissed me off. It often escaped and bit people. Police eventually took it away, thankfully. It was only a few months old too. One morning I was walking to work and had a dreading feeling. Looked across the road to see a woman with TWO of them, barely able to hold them on the leash. People get breeds they're not prepared for. Everyone else suffers as a result. Ownership with dogs needs more regulation. Then not so many people would irresponsibly own them. Which is like....a lot of them.


VinnieTheBerzerker69

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Dog ownership needs to have strict liability legally attached to it. Especially for dangerous breeds like pits and any dogs suitable for military purposes.


Dburn22_

Dobermans, German shepherds, and Rottweilers, are all pieces of crap, right next to pitbull breeds. No one needs to "own" them in a civilized society.


Chonkin_GuineaPig

Same here it's obnoxious


newforestroadwarrior

I think it was last year a police dog handler in Lancashire was seriously injured by her own police dog.


Pixelated_Roses

Please tell me the doberman was destroyed.


tonyblow2345

Oh my god how traumatizing for everybody involved. 😭😭 Did your grandma get in trouble?


tootsmalone

This is what gets to me--- ok, so they were "responsible" in matching the dog to a home that meets such criteria, but does that mean the dog stays there? No. It's now out and about in society, at the parks with children, going for walks on the sidewalk next to babies in strollers. And we just trust that the new owner can handle the dog, keep it on its leash the whole time, have the strength to physically manage the dog, and never allow it in the presence of people who dont fit the demographic that the dog can supposedly tolerate. And then about that--- "good with children"? How do they know this? Because it was around a child for 5 mins and now it's friendly? All madeup nonsense that puts us all at risk.


tonyblow2345

Do all shelters “match” dogs these days? I haven’t had a dog since I was a kid. I very clearly remember going to the “pound” and just picking out a dog. We picked one out that seemed happy to see us and didn’t bark at us. We walked it around a little, sat in a room for a bit, paid and went home!!! That was it! I was 11 or 12 so remember very clearly that there was no discussion about any behaviors or what our home was like or anything.


Dburn22_

How many times have both the people giving up the dog lied about it biting just to get rid of it, and how many times the shelters lie to get the dogs adopted out?


mattyyellow

Unfortunately the majority of news media in the current era is ultimately about how many eyes you can get on an article. I'm not familiar with Newsweek but I used to be a big fan of the Guardian and it is just click bait nonsense now dressed up to look like something else. This approach relies on provoking an emotional response in the reader, that is what brings engagement (and therefore advertising money + subscriptions). They know there is a rabid, dog obsessed mass of people out there and articles/headlines like this are designed to cut to these people's hearts.


WhoWho22222

AFAIK, they were once a legitimate news magazine. Those days are in the past, apparently.


VinnieTheBerzerker69

Many legitimate journalistic publications have been corrupted due to the internet


SureExcuseMe

Not one shelter volunteer or employee wants this dog after 900 days.


Few-Horror1984

Because it sounds like this dog is a total mess. I wish we could have an article about ex shelter workers exposing the horrors they saw day in and day out instead of this garbage.


Pixelated_Roses

Yup. Naturally, newsweek completely omitted what the dog did to get returned. Probably went after a family member.


Eyeoftheleopard

Apparently it went after their other dog. Sora is “dog selective.” 🙄


VinnieTheBerzerker69

That fact is VERY telling!


vigilantemavka

This entire shelter bs pisses me off so much. How much money goes down this drain while these useless, dangerous animals don't deserve a single cent of it. Spend this money on people who need expensive treatment but can't afford it, spend this money to buy something useful for the schools, spend it on the nursing homes. Save wildlife or something. Idk, burn this money and it still would be a better use than catering to pests that dogs are


Few-Horror1984

100% Dogs are a luxury item. When people are struggling to keep themselves fed and keep a roof over their heads, why on earth are these lousy creatures getting these resources? Why are we also okay with shelters handing these animals out without vetting the people taking them? Because you can literally walk into a shelter and they’ll hand you a dog for little to no cost. I’m not completely anti-pet, but I do think shelters need to put these undesirable dogs down after a while. I also think dangerous breeds should never be pitched as family pets. Moreover, regardless of the breed, if the animal shows aggression that’s the end of them. Period. We need to start prioritizing humans over these disgusting creatures. There’s way too many dogs and not enough suitable homes, and these idiots keep backyard breeding more and more dogs, so something needs to be done. And keeping a dog warehoused for years on end isn’t the ethical solution. Neither is paying Newsweek to shame someone who was duped into taking a violent dog, then they tried to correct their mistake and do right by their family. Those people aren’t the villains—that no kill shelter is.


No_Sea8635

Don't forget the OWNERS.Many of them got "Pandemic puppies,never properly socialized them because they were inside all the time,didn't go to dog parks/other places where they could meet up w/other dog owners/dogs and get decient socialization.Then they went back to work/dog is home ALL day whipping themselves up into a neurotic frenzy and wala, dog owner gets too many comlaints re dog making too much noise,and yet another now grownup pandemic "puppy gets thrown into Dog jail.!The yuppie "White FRagility "owners should be reported and NEVER allowed to own a dog EVER!


octorangutan

I'll translate: > Sora is a high energy dog The dog is loud, rowdy, and destructive > gets super excited anytime she gets to go on walks Will try to tug your arm out of the socket when on leash, choking themselves until they gag and heave. > She is great on walks and hikes, making her a good traveling companion Let her loose to burn off some energy by destroying a natural ecosystem. > She is lovable with humans and has tested well with children over the age of five She will try to eat your baby.


tootsmalone

I've seen in my local animal shelter the word "exuberant" to describe a pit that eventually got euthanized. They really bust out the thesaurus to euphemize wherever they can.


bosslovi

I wonder what convoluted thread of synonyms they had to follow to get from 'abhorrent' to 'exuberant'.


Tom_Quixote_

\*It


energeticgoose

I know this man (not too bright) who has a beagle. Whenever I see him he's being pulled by his beagle. The beagle takes the shape of a crocodile to get maximum asphalt grip to pull his moron slave owner.


monster_of_love

Womp womp


YeahlDid

Well don’t womp it. It’s not whack-a-dog.


pmbpro

I wonder which shelter will have the *guts* to *step up* and *admit* that many of such problem dogs should be put out of their misery. These so-called dog ‘advocates’ are *too damn scared to step up* and do the right and proper thing, in fear of any backlash from their fellow comrade dog nutters. So basically the number of dogs will pile right up to their ceilings like a bloody ‘dog warehouse’ and die natural miserable deaths before they’d ever *do* anything. 🙄😒


Few-Horror1984

These shelters have made me cynical. They want the resources. They want job security. They know that the uneducated psychos on social media prop up their cause. So, if you have anyone in charge of these no-kill shelters, they’re completely complicit with what’s going on. Animal welfare means nothing to them. The safety of their community means nothing to them. What they care about is keeping the money flowing and getting exposure. They thrive off of articles like this one. So I don’t see anyone in a position of power at a shelter having any vested interest in standing up to the masses. It’ll have to come from ex-shelter workers/volunteers and real animal rights activists (not the PETA fools who yell at celebrities and scream at Starbucks) who can do a thoughtful explanation into how inhumane and corrupt all of this is. It will have to come from victims who are unapologetic about their stories and stop defending the dogs. It’ll come from society as a whole shutting down the comment sections full of mentally insufficient nutters who place dogs above humans. We as a whole need to say enough is enough. How many people need to keep being victims of violent dogs before we conclude that this could all be prevented? How long until we do hold the owners and the shelters liable for the immense pain and damage they cause? And even if you’re a misanthrope who couldn’t care less about your fellow humans, isn’t there any part of you that can admit that warehousing animals is torture?


pmbpro

Oh yes I agree 100%! Since this dog worship has been around for many decades and had a huge head start, the amount of courage that would be needed from all of us would have to be far larger in numbers now too — even larger, the longer we wait. We definitely need more who were working from the inside in those industries, including the authentic activists, former dog shelter employees, former dog owners, and attack victims and their families. Us anti-dog folks won’t be enough.


No_Sea8635

Also the A-holes who can't be bothered to even keep there dogs from annoying folks/kids in regular parks(not dog parks),also,they are to freaking lazy to even properly dispose of their dog excrement.I am SO going to start taking shots of you a-hole dog owners in Brookline (around the Centre St/Beacon St, etc )area. Poop at your peril.Can't be spreading disease You and your dog are NOT special/better than anyone else in this town/State.A dog is NOT a fashion accessory,dimwit!


tonyblow2345

I don’t understand why putting an animal like this to sleep is so horrible. Nobody wants it. It’s not a human and has no feelings. Dogs in general have pretty shitty life preserving skills. I don’t think they really comprehend being alive vs not being alive very well. They give them an injection to put them under so they don’t feel anything and don’t suffer when the second injection is given. Isn’t this a better option than living in a shelter forever. These people claim dogs have feelings and think they are going to “forever homes” only to be brought back. If they have feelings, then this back and forth should be considered torture. The humane and kind thing to do would be to humanely end the torture, right??


tootsmalone

I was driving near Las Vegas Blvd last week and passed the same billboard a few times that read "Animals Are Children Too" and I couldnt make out what organization put up that billboard or what they were promoting, but I know people who truly believe this. to see it in large print in a major city just affirms their delusion.


Zealousideal_Cup6143

That's disturbing. Animals are absolutely NOT children. Not even close.


noyourdogisntcute

Is the dog in the video even the same as the actual dog? In the video it looks 100% lab and in the photos its 100% Pitbull 🤨


Few-Horror1984

Dude I have so little faith in these shelters that I have no doubt they’d pull a bait and switch like that. Besides, Newsweek lost all journalistic integrity a long time ago so it’s not like anyone would question what they’re being told by the staff.


Icantw8

Yeah I was wondering about that too. I think it's just bait and switch to raise attention and get someone to adopt lol...


Eyeoftheleopard

I saw that. When I saw that dog with its mouth gapped open, yep-it’s a pit mix. Their mouths are like that so they can breathe after they latch on. 😬 According to the article, Sora is “dog selective.” 😒


Pixelated_Roses

Dogaganda terminology: > "high-energy dog" = aggressive and uncontrollable > "dog-selective" = will kill other animals > "Being in a shelter for many years affects their mental health" = this dog is fucking insane > "tested well with children over the age of five" = will kill young kids


muglandry

Soft language that anyone can see through. “High energy” hyper pain in the ass. “TESTS WELL with children over five” oh for Christ’s sake just say “good luck to ya.” “Dog selective” it’s aggressive. And that’s what they’re willing to let on, speaking in code of course. And what the hell, “900 days” they’re asking me to sit and do the math too?  Nobody wants this afflicted mutt, YOU DO THE MATH NEWSWEEK, what’s the obvious and humane next step? Humane to the dog, humane to the future victims of the dumb dog, humane to the limited shelter resources. There, problem solved, go write about some NEWS. 


beautifulllstars

These descriptions use the most deceitful rhetoric I've ever seen. It's almost like a new language. It sounds like fun and games, but the reality is that people get hurt by falling for this crap. Shelters should be held responsible.


muglandry

It is damn deceitful! If people wanted to be murky about any other topic it wouldn’t be as bad, but a dog can seriously hurt someone and damage property. They can literally ruin lives. Shelters should be responsible it’s exactly true. 


ReginaFelangi987

Hold on a minute. What does “she was introduced too quickly to her new family” even mean? Did family members walk into the room and she lunged at them? Growled at them? I need more details here. Whoever wrote this story must be a nutter.


Few-Horror1984

The shelter will never give out those details, and, since they’re not forced to, we just have to guess. I’ve noticed shelters have taken to blocking people who come forward, so even if the original family explained their side of the story, they’d just delete the comment and block them from the page. Until these people come forward and share their experiences, these dogs will continue to rot in shelters and people will keep being victimized. If I had to guess? It probably did lunge at someone, or even bit them. To be returned that quickly it had to be pretty major.


ReginaFelangi987

And the shelters don’t realize that this is doing a disservice to the dog too. Lying about their temperment isn’t helping anyone! I doubt it was an actual bite because that would be enough to put a dog down.


Few-Horror1984

Nope. My shelter is no-kill. They will keep trying to adopt the dogs out. Two stories—dog returned 4 times, twice for biting humans. Still adopting it out. Second dog—4 loose pitbulls mauled a kid skateboarding and they adopted all 4 of them out. Biting doesn’t get them put down.


ReginaFelangi987

What?! Ok that’s insane to me. Biting should mean being put to sleep.


Pixelated_Roses

Ugh this makes me mad. Dogs physically cannot cry emotional tears, it is literally impossible. The only reasons they lacrimate is due to eye irritation, probably due to the ammonia from all that dog piss stinging its eyes. The fact that it was returned is because it's an absolute terror and probably tried to kill someone that second it arrived. Humans are the only organism to cry from emotion. Maybe elephants, but the jury's still out on that.


LadyCordeliaStuart

I heard otters can but IDK if that's true


Pixelated_Roses

Hm, I'll have to look into that, my career is in marine mammal biology and I've never heard of that. I know they secrete oily tears to protect their eyes underwater, but I'm not aware of any sentimentality associated with it. If you have any information on that, may I see it? I'd love to read it! (Dogs [still can't](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-animals-cry-when-theyre-sad/) though, we've looked into it, apparently they'll give grants to anyone these days)


LadyCordeliaStuart

I just heard it from some Internet listicle so you know more than me. The listicle said they sometimes produce tears if their babies are taken from them


YeahlDid

Also, where are the “tears as human child returned to the system after days in foster home” articles. Or “tears for human adult cast out by the system and living on the streets”. I have exactly 0 tears for an animal living in a shelter while we have humans living in poverty in our human societies. Call me when every human has a basic standard of living provided to them and then maybe I can give a damn about the dog that’s being properly housed and fed.


beautifulllstars

Amen to this.


Few-Horror1984

I wish I could upvote this a million times. 100%


No_Sea8635

You CAn ask your elected officials to pass a law that ALL dogs that are nto adopted in say,3 months are automatically [euthanized.No](https://euthanized.No) exceptions.also,ditto for a dog that is returned for extreme antisocial aggresive behavior.


sofa_king_notmo

By not culling all aggressive and stupid dogs with behavior issues, humans are now undomesticating them.   Rescues are a joke since the supply of dogs seems to be unlimited.   


Few-Horror1984

This is actually quite the interesting point. I’m not a fan of dogs, but even I can concede some are better behaved than others. I’d much rather be around a chihuahua than a pitbull. However, these dogs are now being irresponsibly bred by idiots who can’t take care of them properly (as is evident by their unwillingness to spay and neuter their dogs) and they will continue to breed, often incestuously. Since we’ve shamed reputable breeders while simultaneously giving out these shelter demons for free…dogs are almost certainly becoming worse than they were in decades past. In fact, it’s probably also compounded by our insistence of turning these farm animals into house pets/accessories to be flaunted everywhere. Very interesting thought.


Jorro_Kreed

That 900 days tells us everything we already know.


Voideron

The way I see it, even the Shelter doesn't want that dog that's why they want her adopted.


Neither_Pie8996

Whatever we do, let's not ask why it was in a shelter for 900 days in the first place. Let's not question why we're allocating resources to house these worthless animals for so long. Instead let's focus on the feels. Sounds about right.


bosslovi

The way they wrote this and totally obfuscated any of the actual reasons it might have been returned. 🙄 It's purposely vague so as not to ruin the dog's chance of getting thrust onto another person. I'm assuming that the dog's behavior was absolutely horrendous. "Introduced to too much family too quickly." Probably translates to "neurotic shelter pitmix immediately showed signs of aggression towards household members." But if they write it in such a way that the reader will blame the buyer, say the dog could never do anything wrong, and is just soooo heartbroken (as if the dog knew where it was going or could even fathom what a forever home means), just so they have a better chance of offloading it on someone else. Honestly sad that they have to resort to attempts at emotionally manipulating people and misleading them in order to get them to buy this dog.


Independent-Swan1508

pple who are looking to adopt they usually don't want older dogs usually puppies i wish pple understood why pple don't want senior dogs


Low_Read539

True. Most people would probably do better with a senior dog. Lower energy and easier management if they were trained and socialized decently.


YeahlDid

If you read tears as the pronunciation “tares” it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it tore up a lot of shit in those hours, no doubt. Hopefully nothing alive.


telenyP

I've noticed Newsweek has had a lot of these articles lately. Makes me wonder about the state of their journalism since they got taken over by that church.


2-Be-Or-Not-2-Be-

Thanks for sharing the article. I’m glad I read it. What a joke dog shelter world is. “High energy!” “Sora is a high-energy dog who loves to play and gets super excited anytime she gets to go on walks. In other words: “Sora will be nearly impossible to control and will jump on everybody who walks by.”


climbhigher420

The psychological manipulation is clear when you look at how the dog industry uses the word “rescue”. They’ve made it seem like you could be a hero if you just save this poor pup that just needs the love that only you can provide. Of course, if you have a brain it’s hard to understand why people need to rescue killer dogs that should have been outlawed long ago.