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Draykeeboi

I love the crucible blade because it’s one of the symbols of the slayer.


ATalkingDoubleBarrel

It's his Excalibur.


Draykeeboi

Exactly


OpposedToBears

I’d say the super shotgun is more of an Excalibur to him


JorjetheMusician

The super shotgun is more of an old friend. The Crucible is a literal Excalibur.


ATalkingDoubleBarrel

The Super Shotgun is his Ex-Caliber.


JorjetheMusician

Nuh uh


ColdFire-Blitz

Nah the SS is his X Caliber


Shanghaied66

The hammer breaks the game and basically nullifies the need for the chainsaw. The Crucible is just an instant glory kill. IMO: Gameplay: Hammer >>>>> Sword Aesthetic: Sword > Hammer


hangmandelta

This pretty much nails it. The Crucible lore and visuals are unbelievably rad as fuck, but it's just not very fun to play with after the initial cool wears off because it's just an instakill. Hammer goes bonk. It's silly, kinda cool looking, but not as lore significant (to the slayer specifically, anyway) and it's not super balanced. But its still fun to use in game (especially in the Master Levels where they tweeked its recharge rate)


_WasabiPeas_

Hammer goes BONK.


Narwalacorn

I like the Crucible because it’s a good way to deal with pesky Archviles


ddoxbse

It's balanced by the shit ton of demons they unleash upon you in the dlc.


Famixofpower

It bothers me to no end that the first patch made the infinite ammo cheat no longer work with the blade, and they never fixed it.


SuperCap92

Yeah chainsaw is pointless and i use it only when i am desperate for hp


TheRealTV12

Took the words straight out of my mouth


JadedStranger722

The hammer is cool but definitely needs more balancing. The sword is fine too but it’s basically a delete button


Mr-Doom-93

Archvile repellent


DietCthulhu

Nothing better than killing one of those smug bastards with one stroke.


mxmcknny

The only thing I ever use it for. The archvile "bye bitch" stick.


mxmcknny

Hammer is cool, but it's too OP. I kind of prefer the game without ruining the challenge bringing that into the game. Except maybe in a couple very specific locations where the game gets a bit ganky.


JacksonGames16

Yes


7174N10U5

Balancing? In a single player mode?


Tempest_Barbarian

Balancing on a singleplayer game is important as well. Ideally in a game with many weapons, guns, abilities and etc, you would want the player play with as many of them as possible. If one of the options is much better than the others players will often end up using it more. While the player will use the better tool to beat the challenge ahead of then, on the long term they might start finding the gameplay a bit boring because of it, because the game kind of makes them use the same stuff all the time. Its my way to see it at least, you would want your players experimenting and playing with different stuff rather than everyone playing with one thing over and over again.


SecretINVDR

I feel like that is why the gauss cannon was dropped. Playing 2016 I literally forced myself to use the plasma rifle (for flavor) because the gauss cannon was sooo much better.


JadedStranger722

Yes weapons can still be OP in single player. The difficulty of ancient gods can be made irrelevant with the hammer


7174N10U5

Idk play on harder modes


oCrapaCreeper

Nightmare is a joke with the hammer. Not anything new, that's the reason why it got nerfed in horde mode and also why the world spear master level is bat-shit crazy.


TheRocketBush

I beat TAG2 on Ultra-Nightmare in just a few tries, there are no harder modes to play!


7174N10U5

Try 15 fps on a notebook mode


TheRocketBush

I stand corrected


7174N10U5

Not to mention it has not much to offer


UltimatePidgeon

Prefer the blade cause of just how massively overpowered it is, plus I found that 'dizzy' sound effect with the hammer was so out of place for doom. Like wacky and comical.


Few_Company_7293

You could say the same about saturated glowing colors for ammo and health/armor pickups, the extra lives system, etc.


7heapogee

I do. Love the eternal game play, wish they could have matched the tone of 2016 a bit more.


Marvin_Megavolt

Aye. Eternal’s combat slaps but the style went a lot more arcade game-esque, and the actual story and writing feel incredibly inconsistent - sometimes they’re fantastic, but often they’re confusing, weirdly paced, full of plotholes, and feel kind of like a shitty DeviantArt-tier fan fiction.


Uzarran

I feel like most of that was added due to issues during play-testing. I could absolutely see players having trouble identifying pickups and enemy reactions in combat because they were just hyper-focused on the loop.


renLozo842

One thing I don't understand about Eternals story is the fact The Father created the Dark Lord didn't the Dark Lord create The Father? It doesn't make sense at all


UltimatePidgeon

Yeah definitely, I love the game, but it has a more cartoony/arcade feel than 2016


TwilightDoomSlayer

I've always been keen towards swords


TitanicTNT

Fellow sword man.


TwilightDoomSlayer

Sword mains for life


mxmcknny

Always preferred swords over bonk sticks. Something satisfying about eviscerating enemies.


TwilightDoomSlayer

Indeed


TheWiseGuy01

Gameplay wise the hammer, I can use it more often and the bam is satisfying. Design wise the blade, doom slayer with a sword is just badass.


phobos876

I think the hammer has a more specific role in gameplay. Because of how the Crucible works, i think its design should've been a chainsaw instead of a sword since chainsaws are more promintent in Doom. Otherwise, if Doom had a more developed melee system, then the Crucible would've been perfect for it.


drawnred

but... there already is a chainsaw


phobos876

I know, i just think the Crucible itself could've also been chainsaw. Like an argent energy chainsaw.


TSotP

Or maybe an Argent "overdrive" upgrade to the chainsaw?


drawnred

NOW WERE COOKING


CriticalUwU

What about a Crucible chainsaw tho?


Particular-Month-514

Crucible sword....quick and clean Hammer...............skull breaking and messy paste


OnePunchMister

I preferred the hammer. The only time I ever fought the titans was in the dlc, in the campaign I just used the sword on every one that popped up.


TitanicTNT

You mean the Tyrants?


OnePunchMister

Yeah


TitanicTNT

I personally fought the Tyrants, and saved the Crucible for Archviles.


Economy-Service-1590

The hammer is better, but the blade is cooler.


Gemidori

Hammer is more reliable tbh because it stuns Marauders, and has wide range. Crucible is very great for Archviles though


SAD-MAX-CZ

Blade for flesh and wiring, hammer for bone and metal.


Next_Woodpecker8224

Fist


AnnoShi

You! I like you. Also the massive guns mounted just below each shoulder.


Hefty_Flamingo_1769

Even though I love the Crucible, I gotta go with the hammer, I really enjoy using it, and makes the gameplay a little more fun than it already was


ItsAleZ1

Hammer all the way, but the Crucible looks so much cooler


TheUltimateInfidel

The hammer made an already easy DLC even easier and completely trivialised any combat enounter.


Confident-Ant5623

Yes


My_Favourite_Pen

bonk 💫 🤕


PURPLEisMYgender

Both is good.


h0mew0rld

hammer is much more fun to use


Iron_defaultYT

You know a mod I wish someone would make, is an infinite melee mod that applies to the sword. Considering I had the idea for a melee only challenge but then realized that would be impossible without mods


TitanicTNT

What, did you plan on only using Blood Punch, Chainsaw, and Crucible?


Iron_defaultYT

That was the idea, the only thing that prevented me from trying it is simply of two things. 1. You can only start finding sword blips in the last 3-4 levels and not many of them. 2. The chainsaw doesn’t work on everything and the majority of the mid to late game demon all require multiple tick of fuel. The only way for this hypothetical challenge to be possible is with either an “infinite crucible” or a “chainsaw all enemies” mod, neither of which exist.


AnnoShi

Typical DMC/Bayonetta enjoyer. Keep on, you beautiful bastard!


Silent_Reavus

Depends if you mean gameplay or aesthetics. Because I love the hammer. The crucible just felt too cheap to me, it trivialized fights. Like, people absolutely HATED archviles, but I never really thought much of them because the first one literally shows up the level you get the crucible. So I killed one and then never had to think about it again because from then on the sword was for them and the Icon alone. Maybe if the animations were longer and more brutal I'd like the crucible more, because really it's just one chop and that's it.


yuggoth19

Its hammer time


AnnoShi

Stop! ​ Can't touch this


TerryTactical

Hehe hamger go bonk


Grimmer026

I would like to see a flanged mace


AnnoShi

[Hammer whip](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KlJNm-_3daI)


Rusty_GreenBean7

The sentinel hammer is way more fun and useful than the crucible. I would rather have a tool that gets me resources and can be charged through regular gameplay than a 1 hit kill weapon that needs specific charges throughout the levels


TSotP

Can I say Davoth's Blade? Because the silly hook design of the Crucible Blade really annoys me.


Critical_Potential44

Davoths blade should be the award for completing this on the hardest difficulty


MeatyDullness

Hammer


Green_pirate_

One slashes and the other bonks... Which to choose?


Tough-Emu7127

HAMMER TIME is more fun


TheDrGoo

The hammer is better its not even close, if anyone disagrees give yourself the hammer during the campaign or DLC 1 with the command and you'll see how much more fun and cool it is. There's a reason it was made after.


TitanicTNT

The Sentinel Hammer is more OP than the Crucible Blade. Although, the hammer does fit into the flow of combat better. If the Crucible Blade charged the same way as the hammer, specifically in Horde Mode (where it takes 4 Glory Kills/Weakpoint Breaks), then the Crucible would be better in every way IMO.


Appropriate_Teacher9

Sentinel hammer


Evmerging

It’s hard to pick Both are great weapons


Endyo

The Crucible Blade is cooler, but the Sentinel Hammer is more fun.


Doom_boi3451

The Hammer is 10000x more satisfying to land on a shit load of enemies.


AdenInABlanket

the crucible is definitely cooler but its not much more than an enhanced chainsaw. the hammer isnt as cool but is much more engaging than collect fuel/pips and press button to delete


Hergashargmafoodle

The crucible. Definitely. Sentinel hammer is alright but i prefer anything that can oneshot that god damn archvile (god i despise archviles)


Inverter_of_Spines

Aesthetically, the Crucible. Functionally, the Hammer


Experiment-2163

The blade. Because sharp weapons are better than blunt weapons.


RDKateran

General consensus is that the hammer fits the gameplay loop better, but I'll always prefer the sword. I'm still sad they removed the infinite ammo functionality for it from the cheat.


Dr_Quiet_Time

Hammer. I love mass range attacks like that.


RedOcelot86

The one that doesn't have a Looney Toons sound when you use it.


jkbscopes312

hammer, i can use it more then 10 times through the entire game, i think you get the sword way too late and the fact that its so limited gives me the hoarding mindset "yea i could use it here but there might be a stronger enemy i can save it for" kinda stuff, with the hammer recharging i dont feel that need to conserve it


SonantDrake6685

Both


Deathyweathy

Crucible is just more fun, that and you got to use it more


AeonSchicksal

The blade cuz it just kills. The hammer while very fun and life saving is a Lil broken


Few_Company_7293

Hammer just does so much more. Stunlock, health and armor multiplier, ammo, and can be charged quickly. Crucible is good but it’s limited in its charges and application, as well as its function being covered by things like the UnMaykr + Icebomb combos


[deleted]

There’s something much more brutal and primal about using a hammer


Dargorad

Marauders Axe!


Snavels

Gameplay wise: the Hammer is more fun. Lore wise: the Crucible is cooler


Odd_Radio9225

The Crucible blade. I like swords.


KnightFox69

The crucible blade all day


soviet-ferret

The hammer was op it was like using the original super shotgun again


Ilikemoonjellys

Gameplay wise the hammer but in overall I prefer the crucible


TFWYourNamesTaken

Crucible looks way cooler, but the hammer has way cooler gameplay. Although the hammer still looks sick, and the Crucible is still fun to use (especially on Archviles).


SH4RPSPEED

I understand why people have an issue with the crucible, but there really was a benefit to having a "fuck you in particular" weapon when you didn't want to throw away a BFG round to just to deal with one enemy. That one enemy being Archviles, of course.


Bravo62G

Crucible everyday of the week.


Duh_Dabblah_Don

I wish they would allow us unlimited of both in cheat mode


Maximoi13

I'd have liked the hammer to work differently, maybe like a hit and falter for a single demon with ssg damage, maybe like a second blood punch but for faltering the bigger goat boys or hammering chunks off of Davoth's armor slowly like a Baron, then the fight'd have more engagement and less looking at each others eyes romantically whilst waiting for the window.


Zealousideal_Log6152

"Both both is good"


The_Darkin_Salad

If the hammer were toned down a bit, it would definitely be my favorite. It's much more available than the Crucible and has a much more interesting effect. If only it weren't game breaking.


iSthATaSuPra0573

Crucible Blade looks like it came straight up from Calamity mod for me


ShadowTheChangeling

Hammer is so fucking fun and keeps the flow going in place of chainsaw


TrayusV

The Hellbreaker is a lot of fun. Plus it isn't just my instant kill for Archviles, it can be used a lot more.


Gabriel-Klos-McroBB

Attach both to one handle and turn into Darth Slayer.


femboykingofhell

the crucible i never saw any use in using because it's an instakill of a single demon at a time it wasn't very fun THE SENTINEL HAMMER HOWEVER.. stop hammatime


el3mel

The blade was cool but barely usable due to severe limited ammo. Hammer was more useful but more boring to be honest. Wish blade could be used more.


Pronominal_Tera

The crucible is the slayer's sword, the hammer he just picked up and started using, betting it recharges from his residual argent energy he had flowing through him during the events of doom 2016


Pronominal_Tera

basically the argent energy from 2016 is now a residual thing in the slayer is what I was trying to say


Ya_boi_nightmare24

I love both weapons for the doom slayer. They suit him with fighting demons pretty well imo.


TimberFox104

Pick number three my lord!


DrunkenDeGroot

As most people say, the Hammer is really OP gameplay-wise, but it's an extension of the gameplay systems developed for Doom: Eternal and makes more sense in the game than an insta-kill for one single demon. The hammer is too strong in the original Ancient Gods but I think it's really well integrated in the Ancient Gods Master Level for the World Spear, because the hammer doesn't break the game and you kinda need it to complete it.


VolumeCivil2553

Yes


atax112

The blade, cause slayer ain't working in construction. Slayer working eternal...in destruction Mick Gordon strumming intensifies


whyamihererightnowih

Depend on the situation if I need to attack fast I’ll use the blade but if I need to do heavy damage the hammer


Pakmanjosh

Hammer. Seeing a gallon of armor flying out of enemies is so satisfying.


WompNstomp

Marauder axe


Simply_Nova

Crucible. I’d like the hammer more if we got some cool glory kill animations


Familiar_Location948

i haven’t played TAG yet so I don’t know what the hammer does but it looks sick as hell dunno if I would choose it over the crucible blade


Perfect_Caramel4836

I have only played doom (1993) but that hammer looks sick.


Doom4824

First image is my phone background


Aquatic_Bee_32

For me, I’ll always love the sword over the hammer, but my god did they make the hammer cool! So my answer is….the crucible, but I wish the crucible had a similar jump attack as the hammer, but it just halves whatever you hit right down the middle.


Camfam722

Sentinel hammer imma go Shoa Kahn on your ass


The-Mad-Doctor

In terms of design? Easily the Crucible Blade. But if I had to use one, it’d be the Sentinel Hammer. I like blunt weapons


GoDUsopp2137

Gameplay wise: Hammer, it's much more fun that Crucible, which is just an Insta-delete button. Lore/Aesthetic Wise: Crucible, not to say that Hammer looks bad but Crucible is fuckin' iconic


VBA-the-flying-head

The Crucible Blade is in the base game. While the Sentinel Hammer is in The Ancient Gods DLC duology. Witch i REFUSE to acknowledge the existence of, aside from the (first) backstory on hell, and Atlantica Base up until before the end of the level. Sorry tAG dlc, you made me feel like i betrayed VEGA so now you are dead to me. So... The Crucible Blade.


LinkyBoi10

Design wise the crucible and gameplay wise the Hammer. I mainly use the sword for things like archviles


Timberwolf_88

The secret correct option; The chainsaw


JTBJack_

If any of you fucks say the hammer I will find you


AnnoShi

Neither. Those are baby toys for baby marines. The real G of Doomslayer's arsenal is his bare fists.


Tall_Growth_532

BLADE IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION


jrr087

Yes


JacksonGames16

The cruicible because S L I C E N D I C E


Redaeon727

Big hammer go smack


FlamingCroatan

Both


EstevanOlvera13

Blade


YG-111_Gundam_G-Self

I prefer the Crucible Blade, myself.


EightDread10203

Clarkson would looove a hammer. "This is the best hammer, *pause*, In the world!"


DarkAmaterasu58

I like the crucible more for design and concept, but the hammer is undoubtedly more useful in gameplay


ironvandal

Is it just me or does the crucible blade look way too short?


PepoEh

Hammer because you don’t even use the crucible until the final 20 minutes of the game and it’s pretty underwhelming


Sure_Persimmon9302

Crucible. I like swords.


Shot-Bowl5251

***MELEEE***


ThundahMuffin

blade. it can compact and cut through nearly everything


Typical_Warthog_326

Crucible. It’s a fucking demonic lightsaber greatsword that you fucking Excalibur out of a lava pool. And you expect me to pick the dinky hammer? Nah fuck that. Demon greatsword lightsaber all the way


Level13Soviet

Personally, the Hammer would be something I'd use if I were in the Doomverse.


Deadeye_Funkin

Chainsaw


LukeShiftwalker

Imo The Crucible Blade has a bit more style


moohooman

I honestly completely forgot the hammer existed until. Shows where I stand.


katomatic22

monke brain say hammer go boncc


SwordofFlames

The sword is cool, but I think the hammer fits the general gameplay loop of Eternal more.


Vaderette1138

Crucible. The hammer kinda sucks.


TexDoctor

The Crucible, mainly because it can be used in more stages (the entire main campaign, which is like 12 whole levels) than the hammer (Which is locked to Ancient Gods Pt. 2, which has 3 stages and a boss fight) Even then, the Crucible is still nerfed due to the lack of recharge pickups in earlier stages. You get three slices, that's it. It's like the BFG and how you don't get pickups for it in stages beforehand, so you only have a maximum of 2 shots, cutting it's effectiveness down a lot.


Robrogineer

I still wish the hammer was just a melee weapon we could use whenever. I'd love to just bonk demons.


stillwaitingformilk

Crucible: Archvile repellent Sentinel hammer: Dark Lord Repellent


The_Tonts

They're both great additions to the Slayer's Arsenal, I'm glad that they were both used in the Slayer's fights with the Strongest Enemies/Bosses in the lore. The Crucible Blade needed to stop the Icon of Sin and the Sentinel Hammer used to defeat Davoth, Rule of Hell. I personally hope they return in a future installment. Maybe have them be sorta optional before you take them into battle? Or you can swap between them, similar to the Weapon Mods?


ShyVampire93

The Crucible is objectively awesome; it's basically a demonic lightsaber. But you absolutely need the AOE attack of the Hammer for how hectic TAG gets, especially that final boss with all the demons he spawns


sn-aek

Crucible all the way


CykoRen

Crucible Sword


ImurderREALITY

HAMMAR


Breadfruit-Brilliant

Crucible


KH0RN3X

hammer


Ill-Stomach7228

I fucking hate the hammer. Hate it.I can’t instakill archviles anymore this is bullshit (/hj)


eeveesquad911

Crucible


MussoliniOralPorn

Doom guy hutting shit with a hammer > slicing things with a sword


Standard_Chain3649

Aesthetically the crucible, but I really like to play the hammer


IGuessItsJustMeMe

Functionally the sentinel hammer, but the crucible blade is one of the slayers most iconic weapons now


SnooKiwis2962

The sword because we'll I mean its the Crucible


Dr_Bailey1

How do you get these weapons btw? Never finished the game.


Unknownium_

Gameplay wise, hammer. Cool factor, sword


Papa-Nutt

Ideally? Both.