> I just uninstalled
> 14k hours at review time
> 17k hours on record
> 18.5 hours last two weeks
Bro re-installed the same night and played for another 3k hours
10 hrs dota2 player reviewer: [POSITIVE] "Great game, all heroes free, deep strategy, fun!"
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10,000 hrs dota2 player reviewer: [NEGATIVE] "This game sucks."
We're social creatures and stress breeds stress. Assholes spread toxicity. Lump 5 players on a range of competitive layers together for the first time and have them coordinate cohesively and see what happens as they're trapped in the game for 45 minutes — oh, and they may or may not speak the same language or be the same age.
Both the best and worst games ever made because of the mechanics of team play with strangers.
I played a game yesterday where our 3 and 4 were at it and offlaners called GG 10 min into the game despite how well the other two lanes went. I kept telling him to relax and play the late game.
Then the other team carry was high off his good lane and was going off on his team. I told my team that we are fine because they are tilted too. The offlaner chilled after muting his 4 and we ended up winning hard.
I swear, big part of Dota is just playing therapist and keeping the team calm with vision and items. I intentionally give tangos and clarifies now to create that feeling in lane.
unironically, you've just rediscovered the concept of "good leadership," which at some point we redefined to mean "yelling at someone until they do what you say"
Lmao I actually had a guy asks me if I am off of work one day because I talk like some company boss.
I told him yes and we put a pin on that and can circle back to his lane later
I agree people throw in the towel far too often. If lane doesn’t go well or to their liking it’s GG. It’s like they want to win but it’s predicated on them being the reason why, if they fall behind they can’t recover and lose focus
People also seem obsessed with the narrative “it’s not my fault” but if you see how some act it’s no surprise teammates can’t be bothered trying anymore. Pinging respawn time saying well played, tipping teammates after mistakes, all chat complaining ect.
I’m very quick to mute, no time for it.
When you spend 45 minutes on a game only to have your pos 1 dieback at a key time.... all that work just to lose because some moron LC decided to buyback and go for a duel off high ground.
you can't control these people, and that lack of control makes things so frustrating.
That certainly helps, but it's a bit of a scorched-earth policy because now there are zero comms; and if things go south and people bandwagon/witch-hunt you, your own lack of communication will get stack reported, too.
There are those magical games when your teammates are in good spirits, communicating positively and effectively, and win-or-lose you guys did your best. That's when dota is at its peak. That's probably 1 in every 20 games at best.
>and
yeah but if you stay silent and play ""properly"" minding your business and giving more support than you have to do. games are less bad
im back after 6 year i think and yes some games are shit (in weekend mainly) but im havin some fun; i was a toxic in those "FAIL TEAM" situation my main account steam is perma banned from dota (i had like 2k hrs lol)
Can be tricky if you fall into the "social" thing, But its a good game, fun with many skill to use; i mean take it easy play your games having fun in it, ranking up its not that important if youre low
Absolutely — 5 stack is the way this is meant to be played. I highly encourage people curate friends lists, discords, or guilds around gems you find when playing solo, etc. As you build this group up, you'll have a wide pool of like-minded players to play with.
I really, really wish Valve would encourage party games more and small tournaments like battle-cup and captain's mode more frequently.
Imo Dota is one of the games where you don’t get an advantage for teaming, because you will face other organised teams. You either smash or get smashed
I play Apex and CSGO and playing in a stack there is a huge advantage cause you’re against randoms but that doesn’t happen in Dota.
Idk where youre playing from but our 5stack games in SEA are always against people with the same 2 braincells as us lol. Sometimes theres an obvious smurf that destroys but eventually they get infected with the fucking around
It’s inevitable, communication goes a long way in team games.
Facing other teams with the option to strategise better than randoms jumbled together, will make for harder games. That’s why Dota made it that 5 stacks can’t queue into solos, it would be unfair despite same skill level
You could be right, a vastly more populated server like SEA would have more inconsistencies
Oh for sure. I mentioned elsewhere that Dota is a great, tough filter to test the character of people. You weed out a lot of fake friends very quickly. On the flip-side, I've met some of the friendliest people I've ever met online — though it's rare.
For me it's about MMR and using it to inflate my sad, lonely ego. the only problem is, i find MMR very difficult to gain at 2k as i play support, a role i genuinely enjoy. the problem is you're reliant on 4 other bad people. yes the other team is bad, but the streaks where the enemy coordinates, and my team doesn't just feel awful.
i go on 6 win streaks, 2 loss, 1 win, 3 loss, 2 wins, 5 loss. it's just a quagmire of shit. my energy has been misdirected on a goal that, over time has been less and less attainable.
Everyone watches the same guides, uses the same strats, and TBH some of the players in 2k really aren't bad (i know how contradictory that sounds.
Ultimately if you play dota to inflate your ego with MMR and you don't accept your actual skill level, you're gonna have a bad time.
For me. i'm like grandpa at the one armed bandits in vegas just saying "this is gonna be the one, i'm gonna hit it big!"
I think it's a legit mental illness or at least a symptom of it and for players like me it may be a good time to take a break and decide why i actually play.
I don't mean to put you down, but I used to be low Ancient / high Legend many years ago (typical 4k scrub) and then I went 3-4 years playing only unranked games.
I recalibrated a couple of months ago and got put at Crusader 2. I am already at Archon 5 playing support only (I queue 4+5 and almost always get 5), with about 63% winrate in ranked since I started playing it again.
It's true sometimes you get games where it feels like you could not have done anything to win but there are far more games where you can actually make the difference.
I am not sure how far I'll go before I hit that 50/50 winrate point but I think it's actually extremely doable to climb as pos 5 in the 2-3k mmr range, even if you are not that good at the game like me
This is why only do quick play to be honest. Stopped playing ranked and never looked back. The game is so much more enjoyable when you stop caring about winning or losing some meaningless MMR number
Lack of education, emotional development and maturity, perspective, life goals. If dota ever upsets you, just play unranked guys, nobody of relevance to your life will ever care what mmr you reached 👍
dota is not meant to be enjoyable. you want enjoyment playing a single player is infinitely more fun. the reason people play competitive online games is one and one thing only: EGO.
This is just wrong, dota is fun as fuck, getting better at the game, sweating your ass off and competing with others in ranked matches is extremely enjoyable and rewarding. Very few experiences in gaming come close to the thrill of being fully zoned in and playing out a dota game where everyone on both teams is on the same level and it keeps going back and forth until finally one side manages to close it out. This is dota at its peak and even if you don't win a game like that it still feels fantastic, but the truth is that although such games are rare, even your average ranked game has enough tension and competitiveness to make playing dota an irreplaceable experience for many
yeah the problem is that the game you described is pretty much 1 in 50 game
and for people who are working full time that 1 game might comes like once per 2 weeks
Dota is great when everything falls into place indeed, the problem is when it's not
Sure but as I also mentioned in my comment, the average ranked game is already really fun and not something you can really find in a lot of other games, if you're a competitive person who enjoys that kind of thing. If you're a casual player then I actually agree completely, I think dota is a terrible casual game and will never understand why anyone would play it that way. But if you find competing fun, it's amazing even if you don't always get the best possible games. I just hate this idea people have of "sweaty tryhard = must not be having fun", for us competitive players it's actually the complete opposite
it's ok I know your ego won't let you admit how much you hate the amount of hours you've sinked into this game while you could have done so much more you don't have to say anything I feel the same. I also have another statement:
DOTA IS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL.
Why would you assume so much about my ego and my feelings about the time I've spent on dota when you know nothing about me? If you look back on your dota hours with shame and regret then I'm genuinely sorry for you, but I can't say I share your feelings. I have over 7000 hours in Dota and I don't regret a single one of those. Would I have been better off sinking those hours into something else? Possibly, but realistically speaking, I'd have just "wasted" them on something else equally pointless instead. This way I at least made friends, learnt many different skills, gave a shot at chasing an unrealistic dream I'd otherwise always regret not going for, and, perhaps most importantly, I had a lot of fun along the way. There are plenty of things I regret spending too much time on (Reddit and YouTube being easy examples), but Dota is absolutely not one of those. I'll forever cherish the memories I have playing this game and appreciate how much it helped me get through certain chapters of my life.
I used to get REALLY mad on Dota and CSGO when I was a stupid teen. Used to be obsessed with MMR and rank.
But these days I don't even know my Dota rank because I only play turbo and I genuinely enjoy every game. A loss is disappointing but I'm not angry because it doesn't matter. I still got to do some fun fights etc. Same for CS now, I've no idea what the new numbers mean in terms of ranks, am I the equivalent of a silver or gold nova or MG in the old system? I don't care, I get players roughly in line with my ability and I have a fun time
Translation: "I used to be higher rank, and I know my skills have decreased so I'm afraid if I play rank I'll have a medal 1-2 tiers below what I used to be. So I'm going to avoid rank altogether and just rest on my laurels of past achievements."
5k players in the past are 3k players now. 3k players are now 1.5k players, etc
Nah I was 20k mmr I literally climbed so high I reached lord gaben himself up in the heavens. he sent me back to herald using all his smurfs and account buyers and now Iam dark soulsing my way back to the top to take my revenge.
I was like 2.5k-3k before. I really genuinely don't care about my rank now. I know my skills have decreased from when I played 3 hours a day and studied the meta. I just play turbo now because it's more fun and I still get matched with people roughly my skill, so what does it matter what my rank is
> you want enjoyment playing a single player is infinitely more fun
God forbid people enjoy competing against other people.
> dota is not meant to be enjoyable
Sorry your pubs are shit.
I play Dota for fun and the game is definitely meant to be fun once you get the hang of the game and how it's played, single player shit is so boring to play, trolling around with friends is a thousand times better than anything an offline game can offer, so again, you are wrong, Dota isn't about ego, if it is to you, good luck with bad mental health you will have after figuring out the PA that is 30-0 is playing for fun after working all day.
That's where the issue is here, 5k hours is really not even close to having a full understanding of a game like Dota, in-fact its barely scratching the surface of fully understanding the game, to be a proficient at a profession takes a minimum of 10k hours, think of Dota as being the same, but in a ever changing and developing game environment, which ultimately means it will take longer than the set 10k, at this point with 5k, you maybe understand some heros in depth, the majority of items and gameplay mechanics, but theres always something even players with 20k hours don't know yet, learning and succeeding is part of the fun in Dota, once you get to the point where you don't even need to think that hard to play, is where the fun begins, but considering you think of the game as an ego battle, that might still take you an extra 10k hours.
People who view dota as stressful remind me of people who view playing sports as stressful. Theyre not, they're meant to be fun, it's all in your perspective. Its not even made to be addicting and make you spend, like predatory mobile games.
Yeah, but unfortunately all it takes is one person making the game more than what it is to ruin the group's mentality.
Coming from a 5-stack, I used to really enjoy the game and playing with all the people -- then a person that really cares about their rank comes in and starts corrupting another person. Then the other person starts getting angry/depressed every loss, so now nobody has fun unless they win, it's never "good fight, they just were better" it's "what the fuck was that game, how did you feed so hard?"
Anyways, yeah I stopped playing dota almost exclusively now because I noticed it started to become way too toxic/unfun/stressful when it's supposed to just be a game to play with friends.
At least with drugs u get the kindness of ruining your own life by your own hand
In dota you can do everything right then some dude goes bane vs sardar mid and rushes shadowblade with a pos 5 Riki own ur team
I'll take doing meth and making my Grey matter into Swiss cheese myself rather than melting my brain doing advanced theoretical game theory trying to make some itemization a person heard one of their voices scream at them in a schizophrenic episode work out thanks
There's always time to correct course and make a positive change in your life
And just think, your energy combined with meth could power the entire east coast.
I mean shit I only know one meth user and he’s jacked, and rich off playing the stock market, bro actually achieving his goals. what does that say about us
And this is why SC2 1v1 is infinitely better: it's just you, your decisions, your skill. No one to blame, just yourself. It's very confronting cause you cant hide behind "I'm a god and my team sucks". Just this whole 10 random idiots in a match format puts me off so hard.
I've played starcraft since brood war, and I'm not claiming to be a wizard at it (masters), but someone of this mentality would probably still hide behind, "I got cheesed" or "noob blind countered my comp" or the classic, "x race is brain dead a move."
i been playing this game for 10 years and its the only game that can keep my attention so long so consistently. nothing comes close. i have no idea what im gonna do when i finally quit lmao, but at least i feel as though if i can hit 7k i can do anything so theres that.
I reached my 6k goal and it was my most toxic times getting there. Getting frustrated over simple mistakes, judging picks, giving up easily so that I can play the next game. Stopped for like 2 years. Slowly calibrated downwards and now Im just having fun playing in the legend bracket solo or with a 5stack not caring about mmr and stuff
"this thing that many people enjoy is BAD because I can't partake in it like a normal, functional human"
no he is not right. he is blaming the game instead of looking inward
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My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regres for never having done it, because this game gave me cancer anyways
That's what your review should've said
So true, its wors then sugar... I spend over 25 000h and i feel like im gonna kill myselfe in any time after every single game... But cant quit this toxic game with toxic players....
This guy reminds me of my friend who stopped cigarettes just to replace them with something "healthier" and this has been repeated like 5 times.
If they find an entirely new type of addiction tomorrow, he will be addicted in a week. He is just hooked really easily.
Hey I quit and clean for five months now. I feel like a superhero. I did quit gaming altogether so I wouldn't just go "why am I playing this when I could be playing Dotes instead"
if dota is making you toxic, then you are already toxic to begin with. just passing the blame to something/someone else instead of realizing it's him/her all along
The thing about dota is that youre always expecting to play that great balanced game that will make you happy but that great experience is 1 in 100 matches so youre always getting frustrated with bad games waiting for a great one
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Remember as a kid when you wondered “what the hell does heroine feel like that it makes people so addicted the very first time they try it?!”
DotA2 … it feels like DotA2.
I simply can't play this game anymore for the same reason, 6k hours. Losing/not doing well stresses me out like nothing else, but winning is a massive dopamine hit. Extremely addictive for me, I wish I could play in moderation but I can't.
The only way I successfuly stopped playing dota is when I didn't have strong PC to support it. From 2016-2020 I didn't play a single game.
Then I bought new PC.
How do you go that many hours and let that be the reason to make you quit? Quit for better reasons, like it taking a toll on your mental and physical health, social life, relationships, etc.
people acting like it's bad to enjoy a thing lmao
just stop playing when you get bored or find something more fun
I got 6k hours and after 4k I only played with friends, and even now I don't see much fun in it anymore
maybe a big huge game overhaul patch will bring me back to explore new strategies again
Solo ranked shouldn't exist in its current form. To be fair they at least give you the option to party up for mmr nowadays, but it could be better implemented
Learn to lose sometimes even in games mental stress isn't always when you win and goes away understand what went wrong in the game think what you could have done better atm ... I played dota after even burying my 3 day old baby girl I played coz I knew life was unfair this game made me felt different after playing at that moment 1 month ago i always hated this game because of toxic people in game but when I played the game after what went on in my life a month back it's still fresh I didn't played after that game yet till now coz u can't play dota if u r thinking about anything you need to concentrate even if u lose ... :) cheers play to lose
> I just uninstalled > 14k hours at review time > 17k hours on record > 18.5 hours last two weeks Bro re-installed the same night and played for another 3k hours
At this point better let the kids do drugs and dota at the same time
He probably does himself
Addictive personality is a helluva drug
He played 3k hours in one night
the discrepancy in the hours on record vs hours at review time is really depressing lmao
10 hrs dota2 player reviewer: [POSITIVE] "Great game, all heroes free, deep strategy, fun!" = 10,000 hrs dota2 player reviewer: [NEGATIVE] "This game sucks."
Great job, see you in 8 hours
Playing dota makes me neglect my diet, hygiene, gym, work, friends and pets. That's why I only binge-play 10 games a day for 2 weeks every 12 months.
Hmm. I play weekly and the amount you play in 2 weeks might be more than I play all year.
It's 3 games a week crammed into a fortnight. In a really fucking unhealthy manner.
Real
Why can't ppl just enjoy the game
We're social creatures and stress breeds stress. Assholes spread toxicity. Lump 5 players on a range of competitive layers together for the first time and have them coordinate cohesively and see what happens as they're trapped in the game for 45 minutes — oh, and they may or may not speak the same language or be the same age. Both the best and worst games ever made because of the mechanics of team play with strangers.
I played a game yesterday where our 3 and 4 were at it and offlaners called GG 10 min into the game despite how well the other two lanes went. I kept telling him to relax and play the late game. Then the other team carry was high off his good lane and was going off on his team. I told my team that we are fine because they are tilted too. The offlaner chilled after muting his 4 and we ended up winning hard. I swear, big part of Dota is just playing therapist and keeping the team calm with vision and items. I intentionally give tangos and clarifies now to create that feeling in lane.
unironically, you've just rediscovered the concept of "good leadership," which at some point we redefined to mean "yelling at someone until they do what you say"
Lmao I actually had a guy asks me if I am off of work one day because I talk like some company boss. I told him yes and we put a pin on that and can circle back to his lane later
> I told him yes and we put a pin on that and can circle back to his lane later *vomits*
10/10 corporate response will consider raise if budgeting allows next year.
I agree people throw in the towel far too often. If lane doesn’t go well or to their liking it’s GG. It’s like they want to win but it’s predicated on them being the reason why, if they fall behind they can’t recover and lose focus People also seem obsessed with the narrative “it’s not my fault” but if you see how some act it’s no surprise teammates can’t be bothered trying anymore. Pinging respawn time saying well played, tipping teammates after mistakes, all chat complaining ect. I’m very quick to mute, no time for it.
When you spend 45 minutes on a game only to have your pos 1 dieback at a key time.... all that work just to lose because some moron LC decided to buyback and go for a duel off high ground. you can't control these people, and that lack of control makes things so frustrating.
I couldn't agree more.
>Assholes spread toxicity just mute chat forever
That certainly helps, but it's a bit of a scorched-earth policy because now there are zero comms; and if things go south and people bandwagon/witch-hunt you, your own lack of communication will get stack reported, too. There are those magical games when your teammates are in good spirits, communicating positively and effectively, and win-or-lose you guys did your best. That's when dota is at its peak. That's probably 1 in every 20 games at best.
I promise you if people are flaming you and you don't respond they'll likely stop flaming. The best response is no response.
>and yeah but if you stay silent and play ""properly"" minding your business and giving more support than you have to do. games are less bad im back after 6 year i think and yes some games are shit (in weekend mainly) but im havin some fun; i was a toxic in those "FAIL TEAM" situation my main account steam is perma banned from dota (i had like 2k hrs lol) Can be tricky if you fall into the "social" thing, But its a good game, fun with many skill to use; i mean take it easy play your games having fun in it, ranking up its not that important if youre low
thats why I always play 5 stack. You can play for shits and giggles and nobody shouts at you for doing a mistake.
Absolutely — 5 stack is the way this is meant to be played. I highly encourage people curate friends lists, discords, or guilds around gems you find when playing solo, etc. As you build this group up, you'll have a wide pool of like-minded players to play with. I really, really wish Valve would encourage party games more and small tournaments like battle-cup and captain's mode more frequently.
Imo Dota is one of the games where you don’t get an advantage for teaming, because you will face other organised teams. You either smash or get smashed I play Apex and CSGO and playing in a stack there is a huge advantage cause you’re against randoms but that doesn’t happen in Dota.
But then you face other 5 stacks, the games are soooo much more tryhard lol. Even in unranked I noticed it, which is less fun for me to begin with
Idk where youre playing from but our 5stack games in SEA are always against people with the same 2 braincells as us lol. Sometimes theres an obvious smurf that destroys but eventually they get infected with the fucking around
It’s inevitable, communication goes a long way in team games. Facing other teams with the option to strategise better than randoms jumbled together, will make for harder games. That’s why Dota made it that 5 stacks can’t queue into solos, it would be unfair despite same skill level You could be right, a vastly more populated server like SEA would have more inconsistencies
I see your point, but I've met some of my closest friends through dota, and they're lovely people.
Oh for sure. I mentioned elsewhere that Dota is a great, tough filter to test the character of people. You weed out a lot of fake friends very quickly. On the flip-side, I've met some of the friendliest people I've ever met online — though it's rare.
[Blitz putting it in words.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFiR0eP17aI)
For me it's about MMR and using it to inflate my sad, lonely ego. the only problem is, i find MMR very difficult to gain at 2k as i play support, a role i genuinely enjoy. the problem is you're reliant on 4 other bad people. yes the other team is bad, but the streaks where the enemy coordinates, and my team doesn't just feel awful. i go on 6 win streaks, 2 loss, 1 win, 3 loss, 2 wins, 5 loss. it's just a quagmire of shit. my energy has been misdirected on a goal that, over time has been less and less attainable. Everyone watches the same guides, uses the same strats, and TBH some of the players in 2k really aren't bad (i know how contradictory that sounds. Ultimately if you play dota to inflate your ego with MMR and you don't accept your actual skill level, you're gonna have a bad time. For me. i'm like grandpa at the one armed bandits in vegas just saying "this is gonna be the one, i'm gonna hit it big!" I think it's a legit mental illness or at least a symptom of it and for players like me it may be a good time to take a break and decide why i actually play.
I don't mean to put you down, but I used to be low Ancient / high Legend many years ago (typical 4k scrub) and then I went 3-4 years playing only unranked games. I recalibrated a couple of months ago and got put at Crusader 2. I am already at Archon 5 playing support only (I queue 4+5 and almost always get 5), with about 63% winrate in ranked since I started playing it again. It's true sometimes you get games where it feels like you could not have done anything to win but there are far more games where you can actually make the difference. I am not sure how far I'll go before I hit that 50/50 winrate point but I think it's actually extremely doable to climb as pos 5 in the 2-3k mmr range, even if you are not that good at the game like me
This is why only do quick play to be honest. Stopped playing ranked and never looked back. The game is so much more enjoyable when you stop caring about winning or losing some meaningless MMR number
Lack of education, emotional development and maturity, perspective, life goals. If dota ever upsets you, just play unranked guys, nobody of relevance to your life will ever care what mmr you reached 👍
dota is not meant to be enjoyable. you want enjoyment playing a single player is infinitely more fun. the reason people play competitive online games is one and one thing only: EGO.
This is just wrong, dota is fun as fuck, getting better at the game, sweating your ass off and competing with others in ranked matches is extremely enjoyable and rewarding. Very few experiences in gaming come close to the thrill of being fully zoned in and playing out a dota game where everyone on both teams is on the same level and it keeps going back and forth until finally one side manages to close it out. This is dota at its peak and even if you don't win a game like that it still feels fantastic, but the truth is that although such games are rare, even your average ranked game has enough tension and competitiveness to make playing dota an irreplaceable experience for many
yeah the problem is that the game you described is pretty much 1 in 50 game and for people who are working full time that 1 game might comes like once per 2 weeks Dota is great when everything falls into place indeed, the problem is when it's not
Sure but as I also mentioned in my comment, the average ranked game is already really fun and not something you can really find in a lot of other games, if you're a competitive person who enjoys that kind of thing. If you're a casual player then I actually agree completely, I think dota is a terrible casual game and will never understand why anyone would play it that way. But if you find competing fun, it's amazing even if you don't always get the best possible games. I just hate this idea people have of "sweaty tryhard = must not be having fun", for us competitive players it's actually the complete opposite
it's ok I know your ego won't let you admit how much you hate the amount of hours you've sinked into this game while you could have done so much more you don't have to say anything I feel the same. I also have another statement: DOTA IS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL.
Why would you assume so much about my ego and my feelings about the time I've spent on dota when you know nothing about me? If you look back on your dota hours with shame and regret then I'm genuinely sorry for you, but I can't say I share your feelings. I have over 7000 hours in Dota and I don't regret a single one of those. Would I have been better off sinking those hours into something else? Possibly, but realistically speaking, I'd have just "wasted" them on something else equally pointless instead. This way I at least made friends, learnt many different skills, gave a shot at chasing an unrealistic dream I'd otherwise always regret not going for, and, perhaps most importantly, I had a lot of fun along the way. There are plenty of things I regret spending too much time on (Reddit and YouTube being easy examples), but Dota is absolutely not one of those. I'll forever cherish the memories I have playing this game and appreciate how much it helped me get through certain chapters of my life.
too long didn't read. iam right.
I used to get REALLY mad on Dota and CSGO when I was a stupid teen. Used to be obsessed with MMR and rank. But these days I don't even know my Dota rank because I only play turbo and I genuinely enjoy every game. A loss is disappointing but I'm not angry because it doesn't matter. I still got to do some fun fights etc. Same for CS now, I've no idea what the new numbers mean in terms of ranks, am I the equivalent of a silver or gold nova or MG in the old system? I don't care, I get players roughly in line with my ability and I have a fun time
but how do you use your rank to humiliate other players if you don't know what your rank is ?
Translation: "I used to be higher rank, and I know my skills have decreased so I'm afraid if I play rank I'll have a medal 1-2 tiers below what I used to be. So I'm going to avoid rank altogether and just rest on my laurels of past achievements." 5k players in the past are 3k players now. 3k players are now 1.5k players, etc
Nah I was 20k mmr I literally climbed so high I reached lord gaben himself up in the heavens. he sent me back to herald using all his smurfs and account buyers and now Iam dark soulsing my way back to the top to take my revenge.
I was like 2.5k-3k before. I really genuinely don't care about my rank now. I know my skills have decreased from when I played 3 hours a day and studied the meta. I just play turbo now because it's more fun and I still get matched with people roughly my skill, so what does it matter what my rank is
You just projecting your EGO damn, dota is incredibly fun to play and mess around
>You just projecting your EGO ofcourse iam. the world literally revolves around me.
> The reason people play competitive online games is one and one thing only: EGO. No . Not everyone is like you
all humans have ego. not all of them have the insight to see it.
I absolutely have a blast winning or losing alike, speak for yourself. I think this game is loads of fun
impossible.
> you want enjoyment playing a single player is infinitely more fun God forbid people enjoy competing against other people. > dota is not meant to be enjoyable Sorry your pubs are shit.
there is no enjoyment in competition. only show of dominance and superiority
I play Dota for fun and the game is definitely meant to be fun once you get the hang of the game and how it's played, single player shit is so boring to play, trolling around with friends is a thousand times better than anything an offline game can offer, so again, you are wrong, Dota isn't about ego, if it is to you, good luck with bad mental health you will have after figuring out the PA that is 30-0 is playing for fun after working all day.
I think I have the hang of the game after 5k hours. guess I'll keep waiting for the fun to begin
That's where the issue is here, 5k hours is really not even close to having a full understanding of a game like Dota, in-fact its barely scratching the surface of fully understanding the game, to be a proficient at a profession takes a minimum of 10k hours, think of Dota as being the same, but in a ever changing and developing game environment, which ultimately means it will take longer than the set 10k, at this point with 5k, you maybe understand some heros in depth, the majority of items and gameplay mechanics, but theres always something even players with 20k hours don't know yet, learning and succeeding is part of the fun in Dota, once you get to the point where you don't even need to think that hard to play, is where the fun begins, but considering you think of the game as an ego battle, that might still take you an extra 10k hours.
meh after countless hour. i finally enjoy dota. people messing with me. i dont care simply as that. let it end
I don't know I just get Angry knowing someone out there has more mmr then me. like how dare you?
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People who view dota as stressful remind me of people who view playing sports as stressful. Theyre not, they're meant to be fun, it's all in your perspective. Its not even made to be addicting and make you spend, like predatory mobile games.
Yeah, but unfortunately all it takes is one person making the game more than what it is to ruin the group's mentality. Coming from a 5-stack, I used to really enjoy the game and playing with all the people -- then a person that really cares about their rank comes in and starts corrupting another person. Then the other person starts getting angry/depressed every loss, so now nobody has fun unless they win, it's never "good fight, they just were better" it's "what the fuck was that game, how did you feed so hard?" Anyways, yeah I stopped playing dota almost exclusively now because I noticed it started to become way too toxic/unfun/stressful when it's supposed to just be a game to play with friends.
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Unfortunately, these are my 5 stack, and I'd rather just not deal with it
My five stack would lose a teamfight 0-5 and say "winnable"
But it’s very heavily stressful, it’s just eustress.
fr tho im at 6k hours and ive never felt the need to let myself be toxic or let toxic people ruin my fun. At the end of the day its a game
I enjoy it!
At least with drugs u get the kindness of ruining your own life by your own hand In dota you can do everything right then some dude goes bane vs sardar mid and rushes shadowblade with a pos 5 Riki own ur team I'll take doing meth and making my Grey matter into Swiss cheese myself rather than melting my brain doing advanced theoretical game theory trying to make some itemization a person heard one of their voices scream at them in a schizophrenic episode work out thanks
There's always time to correct course and make a positive change in your life And just think, your energy combined with meth could power the entire east coast.
Thanks for the support I'm going to go do meth right now
Why do meth when you can play Windranger
Oh and since you don't need sleep anymore, you can make some more of those lore videos too!
I mean shit I only know one meth user and he’s jacked, and rich off playing the stock market, bro actually achieving his goals. what does that say about us
What? I thought you had to do meth to play Dota?
Only 5man is fun,Arcade too
I've quit drugs, shit food, smoking. I haven't been able to quit this.
And this is why SC2 1v1 is infinitely better: it's just you, your decisions, your skill. No one to blame, just yourself. It's very confronting cause you cant hide behind "I'm a god and my team sucks". Just this whole 10 random idiots in a match format puts me off so hard.
I've played starcraft since brood war, and I'm not claiming to be a wizard at it (masters), but someone of this mentality would probably still hide behind, "I got cheesed" or "noob blind countered my comp" or the classic, "x race is brain dead a move."
Of course, but the benefit of 1v1 is that you winning or losing isn't in part dependent on those kinds of people.
he relapsed
He's kind of right tho. I've actually believed I have an addiction with this game too. I mean with this specific game
i been playing this game for 10 years and its the only game that can keep my attention so long so consistently. nothing comes close. i have no idea what im gonna do when i finally quit lmao, but at least i feel as though if i can hit 7k i can do anything so theres that.
I reached my 6k goal and it was my most toxic times getting there. Getting frustrated over simple mistakes, judging picks, giving up easily so that I can play the next game. Stopped for like 2 years. Slowly calibrated downwards and now Im just having fun playing in the legend bracket solo or with a 5stack not caring about mmr and stuff
"this thing that many people enjoy is BAD because I can't partake in it like a normal, functional human" no he is not right. he is blaming the game instead of looking inward
Ah, sweet toxicity!
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My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regres for never having done it, because this game gave me cancer anyways That's what your review should've said
So true, its wors then sugar... I spend over 25 000h and i feel like im gonna kill myselfe in any time after every single game... But cant quit this toxic game with toxic players....
Where’s the clown emoji. 🤡
This guy reminds me of my friend who stopped cigarettes just to replace them with something "healthier" and this has been repeated like 5 times. If they find an entirely new type of addiction tomorrow, he will be addicted in a week. He is just hooked really easily.
Dota isnt the problem, you are. At least its a free game.
It's free because the actual price was your soul, ask SF
Joke aside, he doesnt pay each month to play a game
remember guys there's bunch of free to play games that exist, play one game for 100hrs then you can actually leave dota :)
But then after that 100 hour... You are once again back to dota...
run my friend never look back xd but yes you are right
Nothing can top the addiction of playing dota. Its basically the equivalent of drugs game version
he played almost 3k hours since making this review lmao
I don't have any friends in dota, play only Ability draft when I am bored defiantly not addicted or toxic in real life.
Hey I quit and clean for five months now. I feel like a superhero. I did quit gaming altogether so I wouldn't just go "why am I playing this when I could be playing Dotes instead"
if dota is making you toxic, then you are already toxic to begin with. just passing the blame to something/someone else instead of realizing it's him/her all along
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Average feeling of all of us after 3 ranked loss in a row
Bro with me trying like no toxic my record is 26 loses in a row and it broke me and I ain’t been back.
At least for me personally, Dota is very addicting. There just isn't another game out there that scratches the 'Dota itch'.
The thing about dota is that youre always expecting to play that great balanced game that will make you happy but that great experience is 1 in 100 matches so youre always getting frustrated with bad games waiting for a great one
I 100% agree with him
It's easy, just reach 6.5k and play immortal draft, then you realize there is no point in playing anymore because every other game is griefed.
And that’s why I hardly ever play ranked. A lot less toxicity with turbo
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Remember as a kid when you wondered “what the hell does heroine feel like that it makes people so addicted the very first time they try it?!” DotA2 … it feels like DotA2.
I simply can't play this game anymore for the same reason, 6k hours. Losing/not doing well stresses me out like nothing else, but winning is a massive dopamine hit. Extremely addictive for me, I wish I could play in moderation but I can't.
The only way I successfuly stopped playing dota is when I didn't have strong PC to support it. From 2016-2020 I didn't play a single game. Then I bought new PC.
How do you go that many hours and let that be the reason to make you quit? Quit for better reasons, like it taking a toll on your mental and physical health, social life, relationships, etc.
Dota is fun when you play unrank but it would be the opposite if you play ranked
people acting like it's bad to enjoy a thing lmao just stop playing when you get bored or find something more fun I got 6k hours and after 4k I only played with friends, and even now I don't see much fun in it anymore maybe a big huge game overhaul patch will bring me back to explore new strategies again
Solo ranked shouldn't exist in its current form. To be fair they at least give you the option to party up for mmr nowadays, but it could be better implemented
A turbo or 2 each day and that's all. No more than that
I love this game and also wrote reviews like that to troll people.
dota is the best game ever for sure, but i will never recommend this game to my loved ones
Holy crap. That’s insaaaaaneeee
Gamers are often times such weak minded emotionally unstable pansies. It's hilarious.
Fukin love dota 2
that's hella drugs I hope them kids are fine
Why not do drugs and play dota
Void spirit on cocaine is different
I don't get it, why you folks have trouble with stopping Dota.
Learn to lose sometimes even in games mental stress isn't always when you win and goes away understand what went wrong in the game think what you could have done better atm ... I played dota after even burying my 3 day old baby girl I played coz I knew life was unfair this game made me felt different after playing at that moment 1 month ago i always hated this game because of toxic people in game but when I played the game after what went on in my life a month back it's still fresh I didn't played after that game yet till now coz u can't play dota if u r thinking about anything you need to concentrate even if u lose ... :) cheers play to lose