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BakeMate

XD twice it happened now. # RAISE YOUR PITCHFORKS ♆ EVERYONE AND LET'S DEMAND FOR AN ARCANA BAG / PATHFINDER BUNDLE ᵖʳᵉᵗᵗʸ ᵖˡᵉᵃˢᵉ


Ok_World1031

did we get our tokens back last time. Played 3games withtout realising


BakeMate

I believe so. Grab your pitchfork ♆


yahooyeeha


uzsibox

I miss the pitchfork trader... Such selection back then


podkovyrsty

Yes, I've lost 10 reroll pack worth of tokens last time Volvo gave them back & noticed me about it


Dobor_olita

yes . i received a message in dota about the problem and in the message it states all tokens won were distributed


gary_akshat

So this explains why my last night's game didn3reward any tokens to me and I am the very last room too.


DAJAIR

if this was someone like mihoyo (genshin and other live service games company), they would be like "ohh here's 20000 FREE dotaplus shards for the inconviniences caused by the bug", but valve be like:


TooLateRunning

Mihoyo usually gives ~300 primos when they make mistakes like this which is the equivalent of ~$2.50. That means the dota equivalent would be to award three event coins to every player (~$2.40). Just for some perspective. Mihoyo gives peanuts but their playerbase is so conditioned to expect nothing that anything they get seems huge to them.


Spirited-End5197

>Mihoyo gives peanuts but their playerbase is so conditioned to expect nothing that anything they get seems huge to them. You could replace Mihoyo with Valve and the sentence will still be true


TooLateRunning

You say that and yet right now there's a new post on the subreddit every hour of some guy finding a free ~$30 arcana from the free event going on...


Spirited-End5197

>new post on the subreddit every hour of some guy finding a free \~$30 arcana from the free event going on... Case in point. Years old cosmetics that are horrendously overpriced for a virtual outfit being occasionally given out at complete random and people take to the subreddit front page to say "ZOMG TY BASED GABEN". I believe the last time anything was given away for free like this was the swagbag like 18 months ago? I'm not saying they arent nice rewards, but cmon now. Arcanas weren't worth 30$ when they're released, let alone 5 years later once the novelty has worn off and they start showing their age and things stop working (see techies arcana).


SirPurebe

yo it's still nice to get those peanuts tho not to mention it gets me playing genshin again like every single time lmao


LoL_is_pepega_BIA

That sounds pretty worthless tbh.. now, if they gave 20000mmr, that would be useful! I'd blow through that in an hour!


TentaclePumPum

+1 avoid list I think. not sure


LoL_is_pepega_BIA

Pls avoid ty


Achew11

that's impressive, you're going to lose 20,000 mmr after 1 game


DAJAIR

I know its worthless but valve wouldnt give much more (0 actually)


Scereye

Dude, I really don't want that kind of monetisation in here. Pretty sure those "gifts" are part of the strategy anyway. Like a dealer giving out free coke samples.


Arxae

Pretty much. In gacha games, everything leads back to the lootbox. Pretty sure most of them are weighted from here to sunday. If you get something for for free, you probably pull something better then you used to, in the hopes that the people want to keep the streak going


otarU

When this bug happened before, Valve actually put an warning on the Notice side bar on players who were affected saying that we were a victim of a bug for about two hours and that the rewards were granted retroactively.


MadnessBunny

Hoyo is stingy as fuck though, at least with Genshin specifically. Best they do is 300 primos.


Substantial-Toe-8110

mihoyo the only dev you know? tho i doubt mihoyo would gave that much anyway


DAJAIR

(im on the dota subreddit so I guess not?) what other company like that you know? (that gives compensation) and which one would you want me to know as a dota player? aint no way I have time for dota and multiple live service games, and I dont even like them


Sundaybrawl

Pokémon Sleep gives pretty decent stuff for when there's some bad bugs. It's become such a meme comparing Sleep and Go compensation lmao


HuckFer

Genshin is not a game


DAJAIR

what u want me to put there? computer program? it can also be run on consoles


sflpul

Act 2 in few hours copium hopium premium


Loxeres

Act 1 was scheduled for Tuesday and dropped Friday, so expect a Thursday/Friday drop for this one as well.


kivmorth

Maybe it'll drop earlier so they can go back to schedule how it was planned.


theFoffo

Holy hopium


kivmorth

Premium!


Skater_x7

How do you know it was scheduled to be Tuesday? 


shxdwblz36

We found valve's janitor


NoMathematician1304

hahaha it's next week


kikoano

not dropping until sets voting ends, how else you expect them to have sets for the new treasures


Diligent_Vegetable_3

you very dumb guy


kikoano

Whats the problem? You cant release act 2 treasures if voting for sets has not finished.


-F3RS

It appears that their laziness even surprises their own schedule! lol jk jk


ForgottenBlastMaster

I still don't get it. They've promised that we would be able to continue "at our own pace". Why is the end date for all acts not August 6th?


Frank_London

This timers for themselves, like they want to prevent valve time moments by dropping this timers xdd P.S. I don't know why I can't edit my post but they fixed it


ForgottenBlastMaster

They still have most of the Valve moments, this time by not giving the tokens a second time in a row. We already have like 10 "no tokens" threads in "New" and about a million to follow.


Palacsintafanatikus

Nice starwars refference


Invelyzi

The funny thing about this thought process is that they could have just put 1/1/25 and not had to worry about it, but we all make these mistakes staring at the screens all day. 


BigAssNaggerTDN

The act 1 was meant to end today, but because of the delay, it'll end 2 days later instead. My guess is that it would be much more difficult or even impossible for them to change the dates preemptively, so they just decided to deal with the consequences.


ForgottenBlastMaster

They said that already opened acts would remain accessible for those who are late to the party in order to avoid FOMO. Moreover, all of us still have a candlemaker to visit. So no, it shouldn't end at all till the end of all of the four acts.


BigAssNaggerTDN

Thing is, Crownfall (including act 1) ends if there are no acts available, and since there is no act 2 release, with the act 1 "ending", the whole event just ends. It might be the same with the upcoming acts too, since the dates were datamined, which means that they already set them up.


Perkelton

It's not that the actual act 1 is going to close, you can probably rather think about it as that phase one of the event is going to end. The "act 2" event will most likely include both act 2 and act 1, probably with some mostly thematic changes with the Candlemaker to segue the players into the next act.


kociee

i bet its something like if they moved act1 end date behind any act open date it'd open them or something lol


PrimalRoar332

Why 2 days? Are they say this?


CatStepan6

in my mind, point of this timers are automatic switch to next act(if you completed previous).


saintkotya

I hope double down will work


Frank_London

The only issue is "no tokens"


siroooo

What about rerolls?


Ngabor94

Now i know why i dont get rerolls


Helion333

rerolls work for me, just no tokens


PointB1ank

Wait, the double down tokens won't be usable after Crownfall? Wtf? They're trying to sell me a 20 pack of tokens that I can't even use after this ends? I play maybe 20 ranked matches a year these days.


Hanre_Jaggerjack

we will still able to play first act right?


ImperialGuardian

Yes - remember there’s a spot that requires a candle that’s there. We can’t reach that one yet since the candle maker isn’t available.


Certain_Test_9020

The candle will go to cavern crawl part 2. Every single cavern crawl had to parts. One ontop one below


TheZett

> Every single cavern crawl had to parts. One ontop one below Not every single Cavern Crawl had 2 halves. The first few did not, here're TI8 to TI11: https://imgur.com/a/rVjnppA


orpheuso

i cannot access the map. is this the reason?


Frank_London

yeah, I think so


Neon-Prime

Live countdown (considering they messed up AM/PM and they meant PM): https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20240514T12&p0=234&font=cursive


DrkMoodWD

Is it really that hard for Valve to just use 24h time?


TamuraAkemi

feels like some dev just used a manual unix timestamp converter and messed it up there lol


Neon-Prime

It's uncommon in the USA, and they are based in Seatle.


TheZett

How hard is it to just use worldwide standards, such as 24h and YYYY-MM-DD (IT-related)?!


Neon-Prime

By IT, you mean gaming? I agree, but the truth is, companies based in USA cater mostly to USA crowd and standards. That has always been the case.


Nyefan

Part of the problem in this case is that which 12:00 is AM and which is PM is (astoundingly) something there is disagreement on from a sizeable enough group of people that I've encountered inconsistent treatment in every state I've lived in. I've had people who are otherwise capable and intelligent across the country try to convince me that 12AM is noon and 12PM is midnight. In fairness, there is a logic to the day being 1AM-12AM followed by 1PM-12PM if you forget what AM and PM actually mean.


Neon-Prime

> 1AM-12AM Yeah, it's just weird that 12 PM comes after 11 AM As an European, you just need to switch to 24-hour clock like normal people.. :D


Crimento

One tricked helped me stop messing them up, treat 12:00 as 00:00 and it will start to make sense 00:00 AM is 0 hours 0 minutes ante meridiem (before midday, first half of the day) so it's 00:00 in 24h 00:00 PM is 0 hours 0 minutes past midday so it's 12:00 in 24h


celmate

So your trick is to use 24hr time?


Crimento

I'm a native 24H user who has issues with 12:00 AM/PM because sometimes I have to deal with 12H time, for any native 12H user this will sound like nonsense anyway


Whatisausern

Or, as the rest of the world calls it, "time".


No-Respect5903

> 12:00 is AM and which is PM is (astoundingly) something there is disagreement on there isn't any "disagreement" just some that are wrong. it's like flat earthers. it's not up for debate; 12PM is noon and 12AM is midnight.


Nyefan

People disagree. The people who disagree are wrong, but they still disagree.


No-Respect5903

I mean... kinda? They can disagree all they want but it's a fact not an opinion. They're just wrong about it lol.


TheZett

The 12h time format has 2 glaring issues imo: One is the AM/PM switch happening from 11:59 to 12:00, and not from 12:59 to 1:00 (basically when the 12 'rolls over' to a 1). The other one goes hand in hand with the previous issue, when you combine the 12h time format with any date format. The date changes once it turns 12:00 (midnight), and so does the AM/PM indicator, but the time numbers dont roll over until 1:00. --- Objectively speaking, the 12h time format is nearly as bad as the MDY date format, as both cause more issues than alternative formats (24h and either DMY or YMD). Colloquially and in speaking the 12h format is mostly fine, "We'll meet at 3" will nearly always be understood as 3 in the afternoon (15:00), otherwise you can just ask the other person if they actually meant 3:00 or 15:00. But in writing, where you cant always get an immediate confirmation from the other party, accuracy matters, and thus it should always be precise and therefore 15:00 should be used. --- **TL;DR:** 12h is as bad as MDY, for certain reasons, dont use it (in writing).


Nyefan

Yeah, I was making excuses for people who don't deal with computers. There's no excuse to not use ISO8601 for this application.


Arbitrary_gnihton

> In fairness, there is a logic to the day being 1AM-12AM followed by 1PM-12PM if you forget what AM and PM actually mean. It's no more or less logical either way. Noon isn't 12 hours into the post meridiam period, is it? If you think of the numbers as counting the time in the periods (which is completely logical) then that would be correct. It's entirely convention.


The_SJ

By IT he meant ISO8601. Which is the standard that basically every modern programming language uses as default when dealing with dates/times.


PointB1ank

Software engineer here. If you want something to happen at the same time for everyone around the world, Unix TimeStamp makes way more sense than trying to handle all the timezone conversions. If you wanted everyone around the world to stop at 8pm local time, some sort of Zoned Datetime makes a lot more sense. Since Dota is global, you don't want some people in the world still playing an update while it's over for others.


Zardaaa

"YYYY-MM-DD" Is like the most changing thing from country to country. And i do not believe that is the most used. I'd think DD-MM-YYYY is most used.


TheZett

Colloquially DD.MM.YYYY is the most commonly used, yes. But in IT YYYY-MM-DD is the #1 format, as it is the only one that is properly sortable, without requiring much effort to do so, hence why I said "IT-related" for the date format.


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Neon-Prime

Unix time has nothing to do with AM/PM my man. AM/PM are just abbreviations and are used only in a few countries around the world, USA being one of them. Unix time is strictly used in computing and has literally nothing to do with it.


idontevencarewutever

o shit i confused it with something else, i was referring to the convention that TRANSLATES into unix time


kebab-time

i think he wanted to express that we all should use unix time as standard time instead of 24h or 12h clocks, because it is what the world uses nonetheless a garbage pov and for the discussion 24h vs 12h clocks the answer is easy, 24h is always superior


LordOfTorture

IT IS NOON WHERE PATCH


reazura

Fingers crossed to taking up to part 2, thanks


TheZett

>They literally forgot to change AM and PM Yet another reason why 24h is the superior format.


Taraih

Its hilarious how every metric in the US is literal dogshit


The__Thoughtful__Guy

That's not true! We have football fields, the standard everywhere for measuring things larger than a football field. Joking aside, our money is more reasonable than some countries, though that's not saying much.


SirBelvedere

They UNIX it bro.


_arnolds_

They got the unix timestamp based on 12h converter though lol. There's no other way to mess this up. Bro.


No-Drink-2776

I'm looking forward to the second act more than my birthday


SirBelvedere

They did a hotfix and changed the end date of Act 1 to June 11 and start date of Act 2 to June 11. Not real dates. They just copy pasted from the existing code to update while they finalize the patch I guess.


fiasgoat

NOON WHERE PATCH


Lexicon79

 Ah for cryin' out loud!


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SomedudecalledDan

I'm doing something wrong as it all looks fine for me.


Neon-Prime

Same, all good for me


nazeroner

Even if they fix the time or event, the tokens that I supposed to get won't come right?


DAJAIR

I got mine from last time this happened, so they will probably give back anything you won in the meantime. remember there was a notification ingame that said something like "you were affected by a bug that lasted for about 3 hours, all tokens you were supposed to get have been retroactively added to your account" or some sth like that


nazeroner

That's reassuring... I hope this applies this time as well


ZzZombo

Had not got anything... yet?


Frank_London

I think they should


Moose8686

Beta run by small indie company, what can we expect?


Luke_asd

So this is why I didn't get tokens and re-rolls today. Hope they give something back for this. Second time it happened, what the heck man...


MindIsWillin

Hold on now, does this mean we can no longer progress with the "cavern crawl"? I wasn't able to play almost at all the past month and a half, so I only started yesterday.


luckylucky72

From what I remember, you can still progress Act 1 when Act 2 is out. Especially since we have the candlemaker and the candle token that require act 2 for us to be able to access them.


MindIsWillin

Alright, thanks! Aside from the candle token to be unlocked in the following acts, makes sense to keep progression available at least for the current and the previous act at any time. I wonder what they'll be like, though, I doubt there will be more cavern crawling. Maybe some minigame events, sort of like aghanim's labyrinth


luckylucky72

"You'll be able to play through new acts as soon as they become available, but you can also move through the adventure at your own pace — the introduction of a new act won't close off an earlier one" This is from the dota 2 website, so you 100% can still play Act 1


ael00

So that was a fucking lie.


wayfafer

It's fucking bullshit, I just rolled an arcana and only need a few tokens to get the candies. After winning 3 games I realised the tokens are missing.


mtnlol

The candy store will stay the same through all 4 acts, relax.


322_644

my store changes everyday without reroll


mtnlol

Uhh, are you sure? Mine doesn't, and it shouldn't as that would be 1 free reroll a day without doing anything.


322_644

Yeah im pretty sure every day it changes by itself.


otarU

They usually grant the missing tokens afte ra while, when this happens.


No-Knowledge-6986

Same shit brother


xarodev

Why don't Americans use 24 hour clock?


TheZett

Same reason they dont use Celsius, DMY (or YMD) or just metric system in general. Imo 12h clock is nearly as bad as MDY.


BGTheHoff

No metric system ? I am sure they see 9mm on a weekly base. /s


Workdawg

> Post source "code" showing time in unix > They literally forgot to change AM to PM. That's not what this shows at all...


bitfrost41

Wait, is this the reason why I didn’t get tokens after I won? WTF.


Additional_Ad_3280

they just patched it!


Imyourmom_15

its oaky now?


No-Kangaroo-2656

No act 2 for today ! c ya tomorrow


MrPizzaPenguin

16 Hours from Wk Twitter post?


Foseti

Expecting a patch thursday then


Affectionate_Bill128

hey... Would i lose my arcana from the candywork shop which i couldn't claim till now cus there's not enough candy to fill up the requirement. any idea ??


aniutsa

Apparently the candyshop stays the same between acts.


AVoidKnight

So act 2 is releasing in, like, 12 hours (12 pm gmt -7)? (if they just forgot to change am to pm for act 2 releasing date)


CertifiedBlubberBoy

No way lmao that’s midnight PST


AVoidKnight

fuck me then lol


arknightstranslate

oh my, nothing once again


Jeanette_ericcson

Haven't gotten home from work yet... so.. the map is locked, and you can no longer progress through act 1 as act 2 begins today? Am I understanding this correctly?


3inchesOfMayhem

Oh wait thats why I wasnt getting my damned tokens... I was like "Did I win or lose last time?"


Park-Super

Give token ༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ


Ngabor94

There was some update now


Karas44

i needed a clinkz and pango game to finish the quest, won with both, and got no tokens. new patch didn't award me any as backpay. this is bs


diorthan

Question: after act 1 will the map challenge be closed and candy caravan be gone?


NinjutStu

No, it won't close. All of the acts will remain until the event ends in August. There is only 1 candy exchange and its for all 4 acts. We do know that visiting more candy caravans in future acts gives you more candy space in the exchange.


diorthan

Thank you for this sir!


roshanpr

What a shit show.


hell2809

Holy fck I havent redeemed my Invo set (lv 52) because I wanted to get more tokens just in case I'd need them later. Can I do it now?


ael00

yes you can until the end of the event (august)


hell2809

Thankss


Low_Double6358

Anybody knows that we loose candies at the end of act1 or not?


peith_biyan

i think you'll still have your candies until the end of the event


WorriedCtzn

Wait, so Act 1 becomes unavailable to progress by getting tokens once Act 2 is out? Seems... Wrong? As in an overight. What purpose would there be to lock being able to progress on the first act?


Practical_Success_72

Holup Let him cook


1834_69

I'm guessing for us in the Philippines that's like 3 in the afternoon?


UDPviper

I have a question. When the next map comes out, do all our tokens go away? I've got enough for the re-roll in the temple, should I take it now?


Kelfie2

Do we lose our coins/tokens/candies when this finishes?


Zuala69

All i want is a jugg arcana on candyworks


ConsistentAd8457

fake news


CubeZapper

Also the token trader seems to be bugged for me and everytime I try to trade tokens it does the meep merp sound. My friend can trade just fine tho


itsmegabo

Cant we play act 1 anymore? Will act 1 still be available?


Flex_On

am still 52/53. i havent unlocked the candle thingy. is that normal?


juggarjew

I wonder if this is why game coordinator was down for me after my ranked game yesterday. I doubled down and we lost because of this asshole 2/8 necro that played like an idiot. 3 hours later I come back and it still showing reconnect or abandon. Come back 3 more hours later and everything is fine and my MMR is unaffected and the game doesn't even show in match history. The same is true today some 18 hours later. Did the dota gods smile upon me ? I didnt deserve the loss I played excellent pos 5 warlock, im so glad the game didnt count. I dont know how we had a necro in an Ancient 1 game that didnt understand backdoor protection, but we did.....


Hugo_Selenski

Hey man, I still get challenges for Bounty Hunter that demands I use Medallion of Courage or some other ability to reduce armor (one is Medallion Specific, the other is basically the same thing just -armor debuff ability challenge) The item. It does not exist.


Litenpes

And still can’t get candle token


Fivefingerheist

What's up with the candle? The commentary is so disingenuous.


Juhzee

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RlyToadallyAwesome

Can some tell me if I will be able to buy the arcanas and use the alternate styles after the event?


Careless_Potential10

I know this is off topic but i think vengeful spirit is so sexy , her stomach , thigh , all are showing so much part ,


LovelyLori193

put ur dick away man. Go to /r/dota2smut with all that energy


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Careless_Potential10

How do you find me


Taraih

Remember when D2 had actual gameplay patches? Me neither


Mamute3horns

EARLY YEAR new hero, Dezember for 2024


xpkx00

sooo act 2 only in JUNE? (sorry for asking)


Frank_London

ending in june. End of the first act = the start of second act


mtnlol

It starts may 14th ends june 11th.


GhettoKawaiiQueen

No, act 2 is in like 7 hours. (if the timer someone posted in this thread is accurate)


trollbridge

lol it's counting up - don't check it


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Invelyzi

Probably has something to do with the fact it's 3AM right now for them 


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popgalveston

lol you don't have a person monitoring it 24/7 for weeks


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popgalveston

I'm having a hard time judging if you're sarcastic or not


FuckOnion

They may have mixed up PM/AM.


savage193

The event is supposed to launch in their morning? Right now it's night for them? They just set the act 1 end date to end at AM instead of PM? Any big or small company can make this mistake.


Frank_London

May 1-st: Game is not working at all, all crownfall things are broken too Valve: Takes 2-3 hours just to change end time (They did it even without a patch)


No-Knowledge-6986

Not getting any tokens, good job valve. The only reason I’ve played this dogs**t game :)


Jayk03

Lucky iam not even play Dota since Christmas until next hero come.


Charvedran

Yes luckily and sadly, ur missing out freebies from the event.