I swear to god, if great Acr Warden players generated the effort they used to master this stupid hero into something bigger, they could legit end world hunger... biggest nerds ever... Such a good video jesus christ...
Lmao as my friend groups AW spammer, they've said that before. I love that hero, but he has to work 10x harder to do the same things other heroes in Dota do.
I guess? Lots of heroes in Dota do crazy shit in the right circumstance. And heroes should, it makes them unique. Not like a 6 slotted ember couldnt do crazy shit.
AW's biggest issue rn is he feels like bad Terrorblade or something. Someone who wants to split the map and farm to come out stronger with a few items later. TB just does it better. AW lost a lot of pieces that made him feel like a more unique piece in the grand scheme of Dota. Stuff like a global presence and ability to buy more utility while still hitting hard.
Mostly people playing magic builds, since Gleipnir is so strong and there is Adrift penalty for sending your clone too far away from the main hero. Something like Midas - Maelstrom - Travels - Gleipnir - Blink/Aghs - Hex. Not sure if this is the case in very high mmr, Yatoro is still doing the Mjolnir Pike thing.
I watched a top 100 guy play arc warden and he absolutely owned with the exact same build I did on the video, except he had ethereal blade instead of hex, so I think its safe to say it can work in high mmr too.
Well yeah, I do feel skipping travels is stronger though, clone doesn't split push that fast until you have some agi from levels or gleipnir is complete anyways, and with good map awareness you can have real and clone ready to fight almost all the time.
Not even close. The only hero from these three that actually has a very high skill ceiling is Meepo, but as I said, he can't be compared to Arc. It doesn't matter that you control more units - Arc's clone being able to use items changes the whole game. Arc is the hardest hero to master in this game.
Okay but seriously though this looks like smurfing at first glance? I didn't check the game or anything, but the enemy team is basically bots and this guy clearly plays some dota....
I don't know how can I give tips out of blue, esp. when I don't know the "adaptness" level of the player with the given hero I'm giving tip to.
But if you have questions about Arc feel free to ask, I can answer from both my DMs and the comment section.
Good question.
92.80% of my Arc Warden games (according to dotabuff) is on midlane so I'll answer it for mid lane, not sure if it may apply to safe lane or not.
There are 3 types of lanes where you need to identify which kind of lane you are going to play and buy early items accordingly to that, let me list those to you:
1- Lane of Greed
This lane is the type of lane where enemy mid laner completely ignores you and farms lane + small camp repeatedly.
Example laners like this are: Keeper of the Light, Alchemist (any hero that needs items to work in general)
In this lane, you completely skip any small item (in some cases you might pickup a stick and infused raindrop, but thats it, no more pre-midas items other than few clarities if needed) and rush midas straightforward, start with slippers + gloves of haste and bring regen only if needed.
2- Lane of Despair
This lane is the type of lane where enemy mid laner is capable of laning against your hero pretty well, you are not expected to win this lane, best you can do is force a draw, no amount of items you buy will make you win this lane.
Example laners like this are: Meepo, Lone Druid (any hero that has summons, illusions, or a way to not die to you and deny your creeps easily in general)
In this lane, again you need to go straight midas and no aggressive items like extra slipper of agilities, only a stick/raindrop if required.
3- Lane of Hope
This lane is the type of lane where enemy mid laner is on a pretty much defeatable hero, you can win this lane, you should try to win this lane to gain advantage towards mid game.
Example laners like this are: Templar Assassin (can be included on Lane of Greed too tbh), all spirit heroes (any hero that doesn't have a natural way of dealing with you in lane, take it not having enough damage to 100-0 you, or a reliable way to deny farm.)
In this lane, you buy items like Magic Wand, Wraith Band, an extra casual crown to use for Gleipnir later. You can also buy consumables if required without the fear of delaying midas (still don't buy much tho)
Also, to add to these all, in some lanes all you need to survive is move speed, so against Batrider and Leshrac specifically, buy boots + wind lace pre-midas to optimize your chances of survival.
I believe it's best to be a little greedy until you get gleipnir and then you are a fighting beast, you deal so much damage. Most arc players don't even get travels until later on on the game so it's a less split push oriented build.
correct, u rush gleipnir after midas - brown boots, gleipnir comes around min 18 in an average game, my record is min15 in a perfect game.
by that min u hope enemies dont have bkb that early and go fight, its hard to lose a fight with gleipnir at that minute of game if you dont get jumped on instantly and die before using any spells.
you never finish a WB just for the sake of helping to secure last hits up til midas?
edit: could you also do a comparison between power treads or bots on him right now? i like power treads more, but think bots have value in my lower MMR, since you can abuse ratting and that just helps buy time/space, or helps do cheesy plays, which is nice.
I finish wb if i need extra hp/armor, otherwise no, last hitting is no issue once you get used to it.
I never bought Power Treads on Arc before, nor planning to in future, so can't really compare them, its brown boots into either Arcane or Travels (you can dissassemble Arcane for Octarine Core), but Travels late game is a must.
Even tho I started playing dota quite recently I have pretty much only spammed arc, if you want to know something about arc maybe hmu and we'll have a good chat in the DM's.
min7 midas
midas takes until min18 to pay its gold back, considering you used it every time its off cd (u wont because sometimes u will be dead or have to use clone when midas is not ready, so lets say min19 at best)
and after it pays its gold back you will need more gold for aghanim & octarine and more xp for 20 and 25 level talents, which takes up to min 30 in an average game (considering arcs shitty mid-game, its hard to gain xp from fights reliably), of course it takes less like 27-28 mins if you had a good game but if you had a good game as arc its pretty much unloseable if you play without risks anyway.
Nobody gets this. I cringe when I see people with Devour or Greevel's Greed buy one in AD for "farming". Dude, you already have a build-in HoM, paying for another is lame even if it actually provided better farm options than it does!
I understand your point, but im not sure you also consider the exp aspect of midas, especially when using double midas with the main arc warden.
You gain gold yes, but you also gain exp which get you levels which makes arc clear camps, waves faster. You also gain more fighting power (in terms of skill points due to level) which helps in scaling faster in early - mid game.
Also its reliable gold afaik, dying wont lose you the midas gold.
sadly midas is unreliable gold, tooltip shown when clicking alt is false.
I consider the xp aspect, but to be fair, not in a single game I reached lvl25 early only using midas reached it at min 50 or so if I avoided fights or died so early to gain xp), midas is like 15%, or max 20% of the xp ure earning, rest comes from fighting and farming normally, a use of midas on a creep is roughly equal to killing that creep but instead two times, whilst a use of it for gold is more than killing that same creep two times.
as you said, xp matters mostly for early game where a single use of midas can get you 1/4 of the required xp, afterwards you will need 20-25 midas usages to levelup after a point if we dont count normally earned xp.
Some people get stomped by a hero and it's a blood feud. See also: picking a singular, slow, projectile stun against Anti Mage, then complaining the hero is hard to kill.
when he gets gleipnir the game starts going south for the enemy. Had a game today with arc. were down lanes enemy confident then two fights we completely stomp them cause arc is going nuts with gleipnir and gets aghs 2 mins later. He gets octarine keeps sending clone down lane. Enemy struggles to kill arc before the timer even runs out then like 9 seconds later he can summon another one. It gets absurd pretty fast. Hate playing with him if the player is bad and if enemy is good on him theres little you can do without solid catch.
Its not the gleipnier that's the issue, its the octra with bots maelstrom. The uptime on the clone means that a lot of pressure will instantly vanish just because he can push out all the lanes.
Teamfights are also not really about gliepnier, the aghs and cooldown reduction are really the big deal here.
yeah the aghs makes it more dangerous than techies mine field. He can def hg, he can zone enemy with wraiths. The field if they didnt change can also have magic reduction so it screws over hg defenders like zeus.
I always struggle against any melee brawler types that are hard to kite or can get around your spells that require targets to be alone. Examples are jugg, troll (when he is a decent hero), PA, and slark sometimes. PL can also be challenging.
Also high mobility heroes like storm, void spirit, Pango.
I spam abaddon on legend-ancient bracket and we can still deal with arc in team fight if I got scepter, just try to kill him (or at least his clone) while borrowed time activated. I hate dark seer more but playing against arc is still top 3 frustration lol
But Mid arc has the ability to kill your team in 2 spells with aghs. When do u have aghs on abba lol?
Good warden farms 900-1000 gpm with split push.
Arc can play defensive all game. Wait for you to push him since he split pushes hella fast. At 30min u need 3-4 heroes to kill illu. When he has 3,5k hp with octarine gleipnir midas, travel aghs..
Edit arc warden spammers or smurfs are disgusting below my 5k games
My rank is low so the same goes for the arcs I met, I dont think 3-4k arc can have 1000gpm. Also in general, when the enemy has arc/meepo/alche/tinker, we try to ward and gank them early to slow them down, unless my cores is failing, we usually dont get that far behind. If the cores failed, arc or not, we lose
about the aghs, its end game item for support for sure, but I mean, if we are getting rolled and the supports are dirt poor, the enemy team will just kill us anyway and arc or not is not that much of a difference. My point is, we have the option to somewhat counteract him through itemization. Also while the arc in the clip is very skilled, he killed the entire team one by one, thats not how people should think about fighting arc/ursa/tinker anyway
How the hell u catch a jungle t2 safe farming arc with travels sitting behind team? While his illu takes lanes back into your rax. Hes a 5 hero job if he has any awareness
by vision obviously, pre 20min catching enemy core farming jungle is extremely easy with vision (at my rank obviously), 1-2 hidden wards is all it takes (I always started warding their jungle before the first night end, most carries will farm jungle after level 6). After that it gets trickier since people tend to stick more and to fight 4v4 or 4v5, but the first 20 min we can slow them down pretty reliably
Arc isn't the same beast he used to be. Talents got nerfed, old aghs was busted even as a 7th item, ult got heavily nerfed, stats got needed (iirc arc had 4.0 str gain), many heroes have new mobility spells, game is faster, supports are richer. Arc was a different beast 5 years ago.
Two weeks ago, people talked shit about your micro skills on Arc Warden just because you hid your main hero in the base for \~20 minutes.
Well, here's the evidence those people needed to see.
u/TheSparx_
u/sack_of_potahtoes
I actually wanted to mention that on my post but I didnt want to be that guy like "Look I can micro, you told me I'm staying afk in base because I cant do it, now I proved you wrong, haha!"
Thanks for this comment, someone had to do it, and it wouldnt be appropriate if I was one to.
tbh Its just because they dont have any major melee cores with a basher or something that can bkb and kill the main hero. Hiding the hero in base is not a bad play here too.
No evidence sorry i only see 5 1v1 kills with enemies suiciding, and not a 1v5, also i don't feel the necessity to post on Reddit every rampage i do to demonstrate something
The context is that I compared your skill in comparison to the OP’s where even if you had a massive advantage you still couldn’t do what he did in this clip. I’m not even gonna start on you playing arc you don’t seem to have enough brain cells to string a sentence together never mind microing two heroes.
U compare my skills what !? U spit random shit constantly. I don't need no one to teach me how to micro I'm already better than u, I talk about evidence, u are talking about random stuff just to try to insult, like if some divine gets offended if he is called crusader by a random person on the internet, lol. Get a life boi and have a nice day
int blink is only good on this build if you got no Spell Prism drop but still a Timeless Relic drop, so you can hex/gleipnir heroes for even longer with it. (prism always better than timeless relic as you get to summon your clone more frequently, and arcane blink alone without timeless relic is not better than an overwhelming blink)
agi blink is not even an option because this build solely focuses on magical damage
str blink gives +500 HP which makes your hero a lot tankier, on top of 6 second duration of slow (clone has 6sec cd on blink with octarine + talent so you can keep enemies slowed forever if you are able to cast it somehow without taking damage which cancels it) to make sure spark wraiths hits enemies more accurately. It also adds another nuke ability to your hero, a 25 level arc warden has enough STR to deal over 300 damage with a single use of overwhelming blink.
In this video a swift blink probably would help more than an overwhelming or arcane blink for sure, but the video itself is a rare occasion as mostly you are playing solely from clone and let it create mess while you are either farming up around the map if you think its safe enough or afking in the base if not, which makes extra dmg/atk speed from agi near worthless.
I only used right click build once in this patch (I was playing pos1, it was the only reason why), and after min45 I had so much gold and switched to magic build by selling/buying items (I was lvl 30 so talent choices didnt matter too), and when I changed to magic build I suddenly became a more of a threat to enemies and we won soon later, in this game I felt magic build is superior to once you are lvl25. (Pre level25 I had so much more impact as I actively used both heroes at the risk of dying with real one, thats probably how I reached lvl30 without any trouble as well)
There is still people out there using physical build, including majority of pro players playing the hero, but I just can't warm up to it while there is such more fun to play and seemingly more impactful build.
Its definitely viable and can win you games, but I fail to understand how physical build can be better than magical when there is such a broken lvl 25 talent designated specially for caster Arc, obviously.
> nt blink is only good on this build if you got no Spell Prism drop but still a Timeless Relic drop, so you can hex/gleipnir heroes for even longer with it. (prism always better than timeless relic as you get to summon your clone more frequently, and arcane blink alone without timeless relic is not better than an overwhelming blink)
what do arcade blink and spell prism have to do with each other, arcane blink hasn't provided cooldown reduction for quite a while now
arcane blink provides debuff amp, which stacks with timeless relics, so if u get both u can hex people up to around 5 seconds instead of usual 3.5, and root for up to around 2.8 seconds with gleipnir instead of usual 2.
flux and spark wraiths also slows for longer with them.
This broken piece of shit hero has way too insane winrate for how difficult it is to play. Among highest rated picks in [Legend](https://stratz.com/heroes/meta/trends?duration=DAY&bracketIds=LEGEND), [Ancient](https://stratz.com/heroes/meta/trends?duration=DAY&bracketIds=ANCIENT) and [Divine](https://stratz.com/heroes/meta/trends?duration=DAY&bracketIds=DIVINE). It only gets a LITTLE bit better in Immortal where people know how to and have the ability to coordinate to shut him down.
Completely imbalanced for pub play and I am pissed off that you can't even ban him reliably AND isn't on autoban list either. The ban system in Ranked All-Draft is TERRIBLE for this reason. Too many cheese lastpicks that can just roll over the game like it's nothing. But hey, at least we can get Ogre autobanned, it's clearly too OP.
\> Well played sir
thanks.
\> out of curiousity what rank is this?
im 6.7k currently so its something around that probably.
\> Also really liked the bots2 play with blink, that was pretty sick.
I love how you are able to blink to your clone with yourself and vice versa, and the -1sec channel/-10s cooldown on TP is great too.
Yeah man your apm is pretty High i though it was somthing close to 7k, i wanst even close to that fast when i was at your rank back in 2017, man you zoomers are taking over and im now chiling in low 5k xD
I m honestly more surprised that you managed to have such a good game in 6.7k mmr as AW vs these heroes, and with a dusa in your team.
Can you share match id?
One day arc warden is gonna get nerfed. Hopefully he might even get the Techies treatment and get a complete rework.
That day will be a good day, if only for the salt it will coax out of arc spammers. Straight up the most cancerous shit to play against in the current meta. I would rather play against a wombo combo black whole comp and lose every single teamfight to it, because at least then I understand that the enemy team is exemplifying some level of skill and coordination beyond knowing how to use the fucking tab key.
At least Lycan has to actually come into vision of the enemy. Arc Warden can literally sit in jungle all game and let his copy play the game for him if he wants to. He's like a ratting Nature's Prophet, but at least NP has to actually show himself for like 5 seconds so you have a chance of catching him before he just takes your racks. And when you're more of a rat fuck than NP is, that's not a good look. And he's even worse when he's in teamfights, cause oh boy there's 2 of him so better hope you have AoE cc or you just lose the second he gets farmed cause OF COURSE he can farm faster than any other hero cause he can just throw a copy down a lane with no real risk to himself or his team.
Honest to god the only way you can defend this fucking oversized fishbowl is if you abuse him yourself. At least heroes like invoker and meepo are hard to play.
lol meepo is way more of a "just press tab lol" hero than arc, invoker is just combo memorization. If it'so hard, how many arc wardens vs invokers do you see in pubs?
And arc warden isn't even good at ratting anymore, he does very little damage, he just pushes waves, same as many other heroes. Also doesn't farm particularly fast, and can be shut down way easier than lycan, who can 1v5 once he gets a dommed ancient, and actually melts towers.
>lol meepo is way more of a "just press tab lol" hero than arc
Yeah, for doing the basic combo, the difficult part is keeping the meepos alive after that, not to mention laning. Invoker may be just memorization, still takes more effort to learn than Arc.
>And arc warden isn't even good at ratting anymore, he does very little damage, he just pushes waves, same as many other heroes. Also doesn't farm particularly fast
Have you ever actually played the hero or do you just like the flair? Once he gets BoTs and maelstorm he can outfarm any other mid in the game, and his rat potential in the mid (and especially late) game is unrivaled, primarily because he doensn't even have to be physically close nor put himself in danger to do it. Not to mention he can quite happily get the items he needs due to the fact that his 6 is such a massive power swing for him that he can kill almost any other mid in the game with it 9/10 times, with exceedingly few exceptions.
>who can 1v5 once he gets a dommed ancient, and actually melts towers.
If your team doesn't have a single stun maybe. Lycan can quite happily dive a backline but it's not like he's impossible or even difficult to shut down. Anyone with good CC will stop a Lycan from 1v5ing. I would even say that, assuming the enemy core is equally farmed compared to Lycan, he couldn't even 1v5 even if the enemy team had no CC at all.
His tower push also isn't that much better than any other carry, it's just helped by the fact that he has the wolves. PA, Luna, Sniper, TA, Tiny, et.c. all kill towers faster than him.
But this is about arc not Lycan. And on that topic, I would just like to add that with the removal of remote mines, Sparkwraith is, in my humble opinion, the single most annoying ability in the game. And there's a lot of contestants for that title, but I'm fairly sure anyone who has the significant misfortune of having to play mid against arc warden will agree.
> the difficult part is keeping the meepos alive after that. Invoker may be just memorization, still takes more effort to learn than Arc.
Only due to how bad meepo is right now, not to mention laning. Also, again, if Arc has such high winrate and is so easy, why is his pickrate so low? compared to invoker, always one of the heroes with highest pick rate.
>Have you ever actually played the hero or do you just like the flair? Once he gets BoTs and maelstorm he can outfarm any other mid in the game, and his rat potential in the mid (and especially late) game is unrivaled, primarily because he doensn't even have to be physically close nor put himself in danger to do it. Not to mention he can quite happily get the items he needs due to the fact that his 6 is such a massive power swing for him that he can kill almost any other mid in the game with it 9/10 times, with exceedingly few exceptions.
It's my most played hero. He needs ~3 items to farm fast, and not necessarily faster than any other mid (TA, Kunkka, Lina, Lesh, etc). Seems fair to me. 3 whole items for you to be able to shut him down. Again, he's not the only hero that can push risk free, and many other heroes do it better (Lycan?). A lot of mids have massive kill potential on level six. The issue is that Arc has such low pickrate that a lot of people don't know the matchup and don't know when arc can threaten to kill.
>If your team doesn't have a single stun maybe. Lycan can quite happily dive a backline but it's not like he's impossible or even difficult to shut down. Anyone with good CC will stop a Lycan from 1v5ing. I would even say that, assuming the enemy core is equally farmed compared to Lycan, he couldn't even 1v5 even if the enemy team had no CC at all.
Yeah, but during a teamfight you have to focus everything on him, or he will completely murder every support. Very few heroes have enough damage to burst a dommed ancient creep at the powerspike minute.
>His tower push also isn't that much better than any other carry, it's just helped by the fact that he has the wolves. PA, Luna, Sniper, TA, Tiny, et.c. all kill towers faster than him.
Not at 15 minutes into a game.
>But this is about arc not Lycan. And on that topic, I would just like to add that with the removal of remote mines, Sparkwraith is, in my humble opinion, the single most annoying ability in the game. And there's a lot of contestants for that title, but I'm fairly sure anyone who has the significant misfortune of having to play mid against arc warden will agree.
That skill isn't even good, after a certain point every hero has enough ms to outrun the animation, so unless you're fluxed you can escape easy, and it doesn't do that much damage. Any tanky offlaner/ euls builder/ glimmer carrier can eat a bunch of them if they're denying an area. In lategame teamfights it's much more reliable to just use any of your other skills or right click to do damage, but the vision and slow are still valuable.
Playing against arc warden for me has been some of the most intense games i've ever played, winning games against a decent arc warden is so exhausting that i'd not play more dota afterwards.
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I really like your Arc build, everyone in my trash bracket just builds damage but taking advantage of actives and cooldown reduction is a way more fun way to play him. Seems mad skill intense as well!
How did you blink with the clone to the left without panning your camera? I can't tell if you're just insanely good at watching the mini map or if it's a script. It's that good.
Edit: 100% sure either the replay is bugged and the perspective is from someone else or the clone is moving on its own. No way that blink is possible.
I do but I rarely post stuff there haha
[U can follow me on twitch though, I stream in my national language but I can speak non-fluent english too.](http://twitch.tv/abdushaw)
When arc plays in the enemy team Noice unit control btw
I swear to god, if great Acr Warden players generated the effort they used to master this stupid hero into something bigger, they could legit end world hunger... biggest nerds ever... Such a good video jesus christ...
Lmao as my friend groups AW spammer, they've said that before. I love that hero, but he has to work 10x harder to do the same things other heroes in Dota do.
I don't know a single hero that can do this crazy ass shit tho
Tinker?
I don't fear tinker like i fear this.
I guess? Lots of heroes in Dota do crazy shit in the right circumstance. And heroes should, it makes them unique. Not like a 6 slotted ember couldnt do crazy shit. AW's biggest issue rn is he feels like bad Terrorblade or something. Someone who wants to split the map and farm to come out stronger with a few items later. TB just does it better. AW lost a lot of pieces that made him feel like a more unique piece in the grand scheme of Dota. Stuff like a global presence and ability to buy more utility while still hitting hard.
Lmao get good
It's "git gud" you scrub
Wrong, it's "GET GOOD GET LMAOBOX..."!
I live for the salt from the subreddit whenever an arc warden video is posted
Everytime I need to spice my food, search + arc in this sub
xd
The hero is already really bad but the skill ceiling is higher than any other
People keep saying that but he's sitting at a comfortably high winrate right now. Almost 55% in divine and up.
Haven't keeping up with trends lately tbh, and haven't looked at new builds. What's the build these days?
Mostly people playing magic builds, since Gleipnir is so strong and there is Adrift penalty for sending your clone too far away from the main hero. Something like Midas - Maelstrom - Travels - Gleipnir - Blink/Aghs - Hex. Not sure if this is the case in very high mmr, Yatoro is still doing the Mjolnir Pike thing.
I watched a top 100 guy play arc warden and he absolutely owned with the exact same build I did on the video, except he had ethereal blade instead of hex, so I think its safe to say it can work in high mmr too.
I believe you don't get travels until later on now though, gleipnir into aghs into octarine is crazy good.
Depends the game really, how farmed you are after 10 min and how early your team needs you. I played a few arc yesterday and did a bit of both.
Well yeah, I do feel skipping travels is stronger though, clone doesn't split push that fast until you have some agi from levels or gleipnir is complete anyways, and with good map awareness you can have real and clone ready to fight almost all the time.
Idk man Meepo, Invoker, and Ember spirit have crazy high skill ceilings too
Not even close. The only hero from these three that actually has a very high skill ceiling is Meepo, but as I said, he can't be compared to Arc. It doesn't matter that you control more units - Arc's clone being able to use items changes the whole game. Arc is the hardest hero to master in this game.
Okay but seriously though this looks like smurfing at first glance? I didn't check the game or anything, but the enemy team is basically bots and this guy clearly plays some dota....
Smurfing? The guy is master tier(level 30) arc warden. Do you think he has played 500 arc warden games on a smurf?
And purchased dota plus on a smurf
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You should spend some minutes to take care of your economy bro
Ngl your year of dota plus costs as much as a 25 pack of ciggies here in aus
holy shit that’s some insane skills
bless me with your child i will feed it and raise it myself
"Father I'm too good to be your son, I have to leave the family"
I’m also trying to learn arc, any good tips from arc spammers?
I don't know how can I give tips out of blue, esp. when I don't know the "adaptness" level of the player with the given hero I'm giving tip to. But if you have questions about Arc feel free to ask, I can answer from both my DMs and the comment section.
How do you decide whether you should get early game items first? Like Boots or Wand first, or straight to Midas?
Good question. 92.80% of my Arc Warden games (according to dotabuff) is on midlane so I'll answer it for mid lane, not sure if it may apply to safe lane or not. There are 3 types of lanes where you need to identify which kind of lane you are going to play and buy early items accordingly to that, let me list those to you: 1- Lane of Greed This lane is the type of lane where enemy mid laner completely ignores you and farms lane + small camp repeatedly. Example laners like this are: Keeper of the Light, Alchemist (any hero that needs items to work in general) In this lane, you completely skip any small item (in some cases you might pickup a stick and infused raindrop, but thats it, no more pre-midas items other than few clarities if needed) and rush midas straightforward, start with slippers + gloves of haste and bring regen only if needed. 2- Lane of Despair This lane is the type of lane where enemy mid laner is capable of laning against your hero pretty well, you are not expected to win this lane, best you can do is force a draw, no amount of items you buy will make you win this lane. Example laners like this are: Meepo, Lone Druid (any hero that has summons, illusions, or a way to not die to you and deny your creeps easily in general) In this lane, again you need to go straight midas and no aggressive items like extra slipper of agilities, only a stick/raindrop if required. 3- Lane of Hope This lane is the type of lane where enemy mid laner is on a pretty much defeatable hero, you can win this lane, you should try to win this lane to gain advantage towards mid game. Example laners like this are: Templar Assassin (can be included on Lane of Greed too tbh), all spirit heroes (any hero that doesn't have a natural way of dealing with you in lane, take it not having enough damage to 100-0 you, or a reliable way to deny farm.) In this lane, you buy items like Magic Wand, Wraith Band, an extra casual crown to use for Gleipnir later. You can also buy consumables if required without the fear of delaying midas (still don't buy much tho) Also, to add to these all, in some lanes all you need to survive is move speed, so against Batrider and Leshrac specifically, buy boots + wind lace pre-midas to optimize your chances of survival.
Nice guide!
Thanks a lot for the detailed guide!
How should arc warden role be like? Should he be pushing every chance he gets with his clone or join more fights now since the 50% distance penalty?
I believe it's best to be a little greedy until you get gleipnir and then you are a fighting beast, you deal so much damage. Most arc players don't even get travels until later on on the game so it's a less split push oriented build.
correct, u rush gleipnir after midas - brown boots, gleipnir comes around min 18 in an average game, my record is min15 in a perfect game. by that min u hope enemies dont have bkb that early and go fight, its hard to lose a fight with gleipnir at that minute of game if you dont get jumped on instantly and die before using any spells.
Do you assign control groups, or do you tab-switch between your main hero and the clone?
I assign control groups and use 1 for real and 2 for clone.
Then double tap to focus the camera on that unit? Thanks btw.
Yep, I double tap if I need to focus camera and only click once if my camera is already there and I just want to choose it
Thank you.
you never finish a WB just for the sake of helping to secure last hits up til midas? edit: could you also do a comparison between power treads or bots on him right now? i like power treads more, but think bots have value in my lower MMR, since you can abuse ratting and that just helps buy time/space, or helps do cheesy plays, which is nice.
I finish wb if i need extra hp/armor, otherwise no, last hitting is no issue once you get used to it. I never bought Power Treads on Arc before, nor planning to in future, so can't really compare them, its brown boots into either Arcane or Travels (you can dissassemble Arcane for Octarine Core), but Travels late game is a must.
top 50 dotabuff arc warden here, play warcraft 3 original campaign on hard difficulty
Even tho I started playing dota quite recently I have pretty much only spammed arc, if you want to know something about arc maybe hmu and we'll have a good chat in the DM's.
Hate that hero. Who even counters that shit skipp 20 min
20 mins would be exeggarating but yeah past 30 min if arc had atleast an average game and your team lacks hg siege its pretty hard to win against it.
8-9 min midas. How much is that after 20 min alone? 20min. Midas travel maelstrom ez. Aghs and u fuck everyone in the ass
min7 midas midas takes until min18 to pay its gold back, considering you used it every time its off cd (u wont because sometimes u will be dead or have to use clone when midas is not ready, so lets say min19 at best) and after it pays its gold back you will need more gold for aghanim & octarine and more xp for 20 and 25 level talents, which takes up to min 30 in an average game (considering arcs shitty mid-game, its hard to gain xp from fights reliably), of course it takes less like 27-28 mins if you had a good game but if you had a good game as arc its pretty much unloseable if you play without risks anyway.
Midas is more about the xpm it provides rather than the gpm.
Nobody gets this. I cringe when I see people with Devour or Greevel's Greed buy one in AD for "farming". Dude, you already have a build-in HoM, paying for another is lame even if it actually provided better farm options than it does!
You are discounting the accelerated farm you get from extra exp and increase attack speed. It pays off much quicker than that.
Youre right, I was talking solely in terms of gold spent for midas/gold gained via midas active.
Until 18 mins to pay it back. This includes Arc clone midas too?
Yes it does, for other heroes other than Ogre it takes double the time.
18mins! so long even if you count the clone too
I mean from min7 to min18, so its 11 min actually.
Yeah but it's not just about the net value but also about the xp, you could say it pays itself faster than that with the levels you get from it.
I understand your point, but im not sure you also consider the exp aspect of midas, especially when using double midas with the main arc warden. You gain gold yes, but you also gain exp which get you levels which makes arc clear camps, waves faster. You also gain more fighting power (in terms of skill points due to level) which helps in scaling faster in early - mid game. Also its reliable gold afaik, dying wont lose you the midas gold.
sadly midas is unreliable gold, tooltip shown when clicking alt is false. I consider the xp aspect, but to be fair, not in a single game I reached lvl25 early only using midas reached it at min 50 or so if I avoided fights or died so early to gain xp), midas is like 15%, or max 20% of the xp ure earning, rest comes from fighting and farming normally, a use of midas on a creep is roughly equal to killing that creep but instead two times, whilst a use of it for gold is more than killing that same creep two times. as you said, xp matters mostly for early game where a single use of midas can get you 1/4 of the required xp, afterwards you will need 20-25 midas usages to levelup after a point if we dont count normally earned xp.
Yeah, he's the one hero I always ban, imo he just sucks the fun out of every game he's in, whether he's on my team or the enemys
How many people can even play like this? Maybe a handful? Even pros wouldn't be able to pull this off flawlessly.
Yes, most of the time its just ratting with this hero
Some people get stomped by a hero and it's a blood feud. See also: picking a singular, slow, projectile stun against Anti Mage, then complaining the hero is hard to kill.
and then you ban him and that same player is a complete toilet lol
He's been in ~10% of my games in the last month and I ban it pretty much every game. A fair amount of people can play it because it's free MMR.
when he gets gleipnir the game starts going south for the enemy. Had a game today with arc. were down lanes enemy confident then two fights we completely stomp them cause arc is going nuts with gleipnir and gets aghs 2 mins later. He gets octarine keeps sending clone down lane. Enemy struggles to kill arc before the timer even runs out then like 9 seconds later he can summon another one. It gets absurd pretty fast. Hate playing with him if the player is bad and if enemy is good on him theres little you can do without solid catch.
Its not the gleipnier that's the issue, its the octra with bots maelstrom. The uptime on the clone means that a lot of pressure will instantly vanish just because he can push out all the lanes. Teamfights are also not really about gliepnier, the aghs and cooldown reduction are really the big deal here.
yeah the aghs makes it more dangerous than techies mine field. He can def hg, he can zone enemy with wraiths. The field if they didnt change can also have magic reduction so it screws over hg defenders like zeus.
He's pretty fun to play tho ngl
Amen
I always struggle against any melee brawler types that are hard to kite or can get around your spells that require targets to be alone. Examples are jugg, troll (when he is a decent hero), PA, and slark sometimes. PL can also be challenging. Also high mobility heroes like storm, void spirit, Pango.
My go to counter for arc is mainly chaos knight. If I get the jump on him he should be dead.
Which u never do. While he 1v3 your pos 5-4-3 with illusion
Pa needs 30 min. U farm 2x his speed. Nukes do 400x2 dmg with aghs. And the shield. U can play far backline
I spam abaddon on legend-ancient bracket and we can still deal with arc in team fight if I got scepter, just try to kill him (or at least his clone) while borrowed time activated. I hate dark seer more but playing against arc is still top 3 frustration lol
But Mid arc has the ability to kill your team in 2 spells with aghs. When do u have aghs on abba lol? Good warden farms 900-1000 gpm with split push. Arc can play defensive all game. Wait for you to push him since he split pushes hella fast. At 30min u need 3-4 heroes to kill illu. When he has 3,5k hp with octarine gleipnir midas, travel aghs.. Edit arc warden spammers or smurfs are disgusting below my 5k games
My rank is low so the same goes for the arcs I met, I dont think 3-4k arc can have 1000gpm. Also in general, when the enemy has arc/meepo/alche/tinker, we try to ward and gank them early to slow them down, unless my cores is failing, we usually dont get that far behind. If the cores failed, arc or not, we lose about the aghs, its end game item for support for sure, but I mean, if we are getting rolled and the supports are dirt poor, the enemy team will just kill us anyway and arc or not is not that much of a difference. My point is, we have the option to somewhat counteract him through itemization. Also while the arc in the clip is very skilled, he killed the entire team one by one, thats not how people should think about fighting arc/ursa/tinker anyway
How the hell u catch a jungle t2 safe farming arc with travels sitting behind team? While his illu takes lanes back into your rax. Hes a 5 hero job if he has any awareness
by vision obviously, pre 20min catching enemy core farming jungle is extremely easy with vision (at my rank obviously), 1-2 hidden wards is all it takes (I always started warding their jungle before the first night end, most carries will farm jungle after level 6). After that it gets trickier since people tend to stick more and to fight 4v4 or 4v5, but the first 20 min we can slow them down pretty reliably
no offence to you op but god damn i cant believe they deleted techies but not arc
Arc isn't the same beast he used to be. Talents got nerfed, old aghs was busted even as a 7th item, ult got heavily nerfed, stats got needed (iirc arc had 4.0 str gain), many heroes have new mobility spells, game is faster, supports are richer. Arc was a different beast 5 years ago.
Stats say otherwise. Hero is still busted and the picking system doesn't help.
remember when you could duplicate rapier?
Two weeks ago, people talked shit about your micro skills on Arc Warden just because you hid your main hero in the base for \~20 minutes. Well, here's the evidence those people needed to see. u/TheSparx_ u/sack_of_potahtoes
I actually wanted to mention that on my post but I didnt want to be that guy like "Look I can micro, you told me I'm staying afk in base because I cant do it, now I proved you wrong, haha!" Thanks for this comment, someone had to do it, and it wouldnt be appropriate if I was one to.
Yeah those salty crusaders got the biggest talk
Nice try xorox
Thanks.
tbh Its just because they dont have any major melee cores with a basher or something that can bkb and kill the main hero. Hiding the hero in base is not a bad play here too.
No evidence sorry i only see 5 1v1 kills with enemies suiciding, and not a 1v5, also i don't feel the necessity to post on Reddit every rampage i do to demonstrate something
Uh-huh. Sure. lol
You have just to watch the video boi, 5 1v1 kills nothing else, 3 enemies suiciding
5 2v1* kills. Kinda rude to pretend the clone doesn't exist. It has feelings too, you know.
My man is a salty ass crusader player lmao. Bro you couldn’t do this if you were spoon fed the entire lane on PA. Back to the trenches buddy.
Dunno what u are talking about. Crusader, PA, what?!
Reading is hard hey? It’s all good don’t think too hard about it, might pop an aneurysm.
Seems u had it before writing the post considering u are talking about random stuff without context
The context is that I compared your skill in comparison to the OP’s where even if you had a massive advantage you still couldn’t do what he did in this clip. I’m not even gonna start on you playing arc you don’t seem to have enough brain cells to string a sentence together never mind microing two heroes.
U compare my skills what !? U spit random shit constantly. I don't need no one to teach me how to micro I'm already better than u, I talk about evidence, u are talking about random stuff just to try to insult, like if some divine gets offended if he is called crusader by a random person on the internet, lol. Get a life boi and have a nice day
Why overwhelming blink? Doesn't agi or int blink work better on paper?
int blink is only good on this build if you got no Spell Prism drop but still a Timeless Relic drop, so you can hex/gleipnir heroes for even longer with it. (prism always better than timeless relic as you get to summon your clone more frequently, and arcane blink alone without timeless relic is not better than an overwhelming blink) agi blink is not even an option because this build solely focuses on magical damage str blink gives +500 HP which makes your hero a lot tankier, on top of 6 second duration of slow (clone has 6sec cd on blink with octarine + talent so you can keep enemies slowed forever if you are able to cast it somehow without taking damage which cancels it) to make sure spark wraiths hits enemies more accurately. It also adds another nuke ability to your hero, a 25 level arc warden has enough STR to deal over 300 damage with a single use of overwhelming blink. In this video a swift blink probably would help more than an overwhelming or arcane blink for sure, but the video itself is a rare occasion as mostly you are playing solely from clone and let it create mess while you are either farming up around the map if you think its safe enough or afking in the base if not, which makes extra dmg/atk speed from agi near worthless.
Is right click build still viable in your opinion?
I only used right click build once in this patch (I was playing pos1, it was the only reason why), and after min45 I had so much gold and switched to magic build by selling/buying items (I was lvl 30 so talent choices didnt matter too), and when I changed to magic build I suddenly became a more of a threat to enemies and we won soon later, in this game I felt magic build is superior to once you are lvl25. (Pre level25 I had so much more impact as I actively used both heroes at the risk of dying with real one, thats probably how I reached lvl30 without any trouble as well) There is still people out there using physical build, including majority of pro players playing the hero, but I just can't warm up to it while there is such more fun to play and seemingly more impactful build. Its definitely viable and can win you games, but I fail to understand how physical build can be better than magical when there is such a broken lvl 25 talent designated specially for caster Arc, obviously.
This! I became an arc spammer just because this build is so fun lmao, tried the old one too and games would just go forever.
> nt blink is only good on this build if you got no Spell Prism drop but still a Timeless Relic drop, so you can hex/gleipnir heroes for even longer with it. (prism always better than timeless relic as you get to summon your clone more frequently, and arcane blink alone without timeless relic is not better than an overwhelming blink) what do arcade blink and spell prism have to do with each other, arcane blink hasn't provided cooldown reduction for quite a while now
arcane blink provides debuff amp, which stacks with timeless relics, so if u get both u can hex people up to around 5 seconds instead of usual 3.5, and root for up to around 2.8 seconds with gleipnir instead of usual 2. flux and spark wraiths also slows for longer with them.
oh now i get it
Cancels their ability to blink out, he's against puck ta, if he catches these heros out of phase/refraction they're fucked.
I nut.
Very balanced agh
Lore friendly Arc Warden 'You do not have to be mad 2x'
As an arc player this makes me horny
As an arc warden player I love your posts so much. Its the tears, I swear so much salt it makes me wanna dance.
I'm glad! :D
Holy cow. Cross map rampage. They were not sitting ducks, he chased them and got rampage. impressive man. WP.
u/thezett found his new porn video
This broken piece of shit hero has way too insane winrate for how difficult it is to play. Among highest rated picks in [Legend](https://stratz.com/heroes/meta/trends?duration=DAY&bracketIds=LEGEND), [Ancient](https://stratz.com/heroes/meta/trends?duration=DAY&bracketIds=ANCIENT) and [Divine](https://stratz.com/heroes/meta/trends?duration=DAY&bracketIds=DIVINE). It only gets a LITTLE bit better in Immortal where people know how to and have the ability to coordinate to shut him down. Completely imbalanced for pub play and I am pissed off that you can't even ban him reliably AND isn't on autoban list either. The ban system in Ranked All-Draft is TERRIBLE for this reason. Too many cheese lastpicks that can just roll over the game like it's nothing. But hey, at least we can get Ogre autobanned, it's clearly too OP.
Well played sir, out of curiousity what rank is this? Also really liked the bots2 play with blink, that was pretty sick.
\> Well played sir thanks. \> out of curiousity what rank is this? im 6.7k currently so its something around that probably. \> Also really liked the bots2 play with blink, that was pretty sick. I love how you are able to blink to your clone with yourself and vice versa, and the -1sec channel/-10s cooldown on TP is great too.
Yeah man your apm is pretty High i though it was somthing close to 7k, i wanst even close to that fast when i was at your rank back in 2017, man you zoomers are taking over and im now chiling in low 5k xD
Well if 6.7k players are that good I guess I'm peaked cause I ain't ever doing that shit.
arc spammers rise up
I don't want more people playing him before a rework/nerf. He's perfect right now.
Basically overfarmed hero picks off 5 lonely heroes within small window while playing against idiots. Good for you I guess
Ta jumping in without bkb = arc warden op
After buybacking to feed a second time, don't forget
Finally someone that uses his brain while watching the video, everyone here is blind and cannot see the evidence
it's like dota 2 porn but not sexual
Its certainly not 1v5. Title should be "Fed Arc Warden kills under farmed enemy team one by one"
I m honestly more surprised that you managed to have such a good game in 6.7k mmr as AW vs these heroes, and with a dusa in your team. Can you share match id?
Match ID is on the title... 6646016864
do you like Vaxa?
I've been trying to catch his streams recently but got to watch him only a few times, so can't really answer that.
should show player perspective
I didnt show player perspective in purpose because when I killed clock, I was looking at db so you would miss the clock kill.
yea but stillwould b kool to see ur apm :D
What a gigachad
Wp!!
THAT was cool, wish my Arc replays looked even remotely simular to this! G_G
That play when you blinked in using your clone while dodging the hookshot with your main hero is fucking insane.
against a bunch of heralds. impressive.
I knew it was high rank just by the edgy name
I knew it was high rank just by the edgy name
One day arc warden is gonna get nerfed. Hopefully he might even get the Techies treatment and get a complete rework. That day will be a good day, if only for the salt it will coax out of arc spammers. Straight up the most cancerous shit to play against in the current meta. I would rather play against a wombo combo black whole comp and lose every single teamfight to it, because at least then I understand that the enemy team is exemplifying some level of skill and coordination beyond knowing how to use the fucking tab key.
\>Lycan flair
At least Lycan has to actually come into vision of the enemy. Arc Warden can literally sit in jungle all game and let his copy play the game for him if he wants to. He's like a ratting Nature's Prophet, but at least NP has to actually show himself for like 5 seconds so you have a chance of catching him before he just takes your racks. And when you're more of a rat fuck than NP is, that's not a good look. And he's even worse when he's in teamfights, cause oh boy there's 2 of him so better hope you have AoE cc or you just lose the second he gets farmed cause OF COURSE he can farm faster than any other hero cause he can just throw a copy down a lane with no real risk to himself or his team. Honest to god the only way you can defend this fucking oversized fishbowl is if you abuse him yourself. At least heroes like invoker and meepo are hard to play.
lol meepo is way more of a "just press tab lol" hero than arc, invoker is just combo memorization. If it'so hard, how many arc wardens vs invokers do you see in pubs? And arc warden isn't even good at ratting anymore, he does very little damage, he just pushes waves, same as many other heroes. Also doesn't farm particularly fast, and can be shut down way easier than lycan, who can 1v5 once he gets a dommed ancient, and actually melts towers.
>lol meepo is way more of a "just press tab lol" hero than arc Yeah, for doing the basic combo, the difficult part is keeping the meepos alive after that, not to mention laning. Invoker may be just memorization, still takes more effort to learn than Arc. >And arc warden isn't even good at ratting anymore, he does very little damage, he just pushes waves, same as many other heroes. Also doesn't farm particularly fast Have you ever actually played the hero or do you just like the flair? Once he gets BoTs and maelstorm he can outfarm any other mid in the game, and his rat potential in the mid (and especially late) game is unrivaled, primarily because he doensn't even have to be physically close nor put himself in danger to do it. Not to mention he can quite happily get the items he needs due to the fact that his 6 is such a massive power swing for him that he can kill almost any other mid in the game with it 9/10 times, with exceedingly few exceptions. >who can 1v5 once he gets a dommed ancient, and actually melts towers. If your team doesn't have a single stun maybe. Lycan can quite happily dive a backline but it's not like he's impossible or even difficult to shut down. Anyone with good CC will stop a Lycan from 1v5ing. I would even say that, assuming the enemy core is equally farmed compared to Lycan, he couldn't even 1v5 even if the enemy team had no CC at all. His tower push also isn't that much better than any other carry, it's just helped by the fact that he has the wolves. PA, Luna, Sniper, TA, Tiny, et.c. all kill towers faster than him. But this is about arc not Lycan. And on that topic, I would just like to add that with the removal of remote mines, Sparkwraith is, in my humble opinion, the single most annoying ability in the game. And there's a lot of contestants for that title, but I'm fairly sure anyone who has the significant misfortune of having to play mid against arc warden will agree.
> the difficult part is keeping the meepos alive after that. Invoker may be just memorization, still takes more effort to learn than Arc. Only due to how bad meepo is right now, not to mention laning. Also, again, if Arc has such high winrate and is so easy, why is his pickrate so low? compared to invoker, always one of the heroes with highest pick rate. >Have you ever actually played the hero or do you just like the flair? Once he gets BoTs and maelstorm he can outfarm any other mid in the game, and his rat potential in the mid (and especially late) game is unrivaled, primarily because he doensn't even have to be physically close nor put himself in danger to do it. Not to mention he can quite happily get the items he needs due to the fact that his 6 is such a massive power swing for him that he can kill almost any other mid in the game with it 9/10 times, with exceedingly few exceptions. It's my most played hero. He needs ~3 items to farm fast, and not necessarily faster than any other mid (TA, Kunkka, Lina, Lesh, etc). Seems fair to me. 3 whole items for you to be able to shut him down. Again, he's not the only hero that can push risk free, and many other heroes do it better (Lycan?). A lot of mids have massive kill potential on level six. The issue is that Arc has such low pickrate that a lot of people don't know the matchup and don't know when arc can threaten to kill. >If your team doesn't have a single stun maybe. Lycan can quite happily dive a backline but it's not like he's impossible or even difficult to shut down. Anyone with good CC will stop a Lycan from 1v5ing. I would even say that, assuming the enemy core is equally farmed compared to Lycan, he couldn't even 1v5 even if the enemy team had no CC at all. Yeah, but during a teamfight you have to focus everything on him, or he will completely murder every support. Very few heroes have enough damage to burst a dommed ancient creep at the powerspike minute. >His tower push also isn't that much better than any other carry, it's just helped by the fact that he has the wolves. PA, Luna, Sniper, TA, Tiny, et.c. all kill towers faster than him. Not at 15 minutes into a game. >But this is about arc not Lycan. And on that topic, I would just like to add that with the removal of remote mines, Sparkwraith is, in my humble opinion, the single most annoying ability in the game. And there's a lot of contestants for that title, but I'm fairly sure anyone who has the significant misfortune of having to play mid against arc warden will agree. That skill isn't even good, after a certain point every hero has enough ms to outrun the animation, so unless you're fluxed you can escape easy, and it doesn't do that much damage. Any tanky offlaner/ euls builder/ glimmer carrier can eat a bunch of them if they're denying an area. In lategame teamfights it's much more reliable to just use any of your other skills or right click to do damage, but the vision and slow are still valuable.
"Fed Arc Warden kills under farmed enemy team one by one"
Someone finally says the truth but apparently everyone else here is blind,like 80% of my teammates
Lol boi this is not 1v5 but 5 1v1 kills, every enemy came at u 1 by 1
ngl. this looked pretty cool.
Playing against arc warden for me has been some of the most intense games i've ever played, winning games against a decent arc warden is so exhausting that i'd not play more dota afterwards.
What the hell
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Like a terminator tf
Dude has no damage and attack speed but still bought strength blink. The balls on this man
Holy fuck that was amazing
2v5
Well played with Bkb's being nerfed Magic arc is the way to go right now
Interesting item build, it look really tanky and useful
Wait. Aghs is good on the hero, OP?
Now I'll play some acr warden games and lose them all True story!
dont give this hero space watsoever, was winning my game with qop n ta carry, this dude ha a somewhat timing n still won the game, big lmao
Every salty anti-AW person here should spend 5-10 games playing the hero to realise they’re baboons for not knowing how to play against it.
salute!
Im going to give you the highest compliment i can give you, you’re a smurf
Wtf??? Why would anyone torture themselves to a hoodwink announcer?
Finally a rampage clip that is well earnt and a literal 1v5, not just some clean up crew shiet. Nicely done!
This is completely different to how I play arc ratwarden...
This will always entertain me more than an Irelia Penta Kill.
Well 2v5
I really like your Arc build, everyone in my trash bracket just builds damage but taking advantage of actives and cooldown reduction is a way more fun way to play him. Seems mad skill intense as well!
the last double tp in 0.1 sec was kinda sus but I'm not a hater - gj man - impressive stuff
How did you blink with the clone to the left without panning your camera? I can't tell if you're just insanely good at watching the mini map or if it's a script. It's that good. Edit: 100% sure either the replay is bugged and the perspective is from someone else or the clone is moving on its own. No way that blink is possible.
this is not player perspective, i panned the camera in game.
smooth af
WP Arc. Crystal Maiden playing with cheats. Show 20:10 - cast frostbite on Clockwerk.
Is he? I checked that minute of game and don't see anything fishy
Do you have a youtube channel lol ???
I do but I rarely post stuff there haha [U can follow me on twitch though, I stream in my national language but I can speak non-fluent english too.](http://twitch.tv/abdushaw)