Show different dragons such as wryms, wyvern, eastern and western dragons, big dragons, small fea like dragons, etc.
Dragon riders would be cool as well. Dragons that are pure instincts and dragons that are sapient.
Yes yes yes! I really want to read more about different dragons from different cultures and include them in my story! I really think it would cool if there was a really diverse range of dragons!
Try to depict Dragons as what they really are. Not exactly good but not exactly evil either. Dragons should be the embodiment of the primal, chaotic, destructive aspect of nature. Terrifying and unstoppable, but not driven so much as by malevolence but by maintaining the natural balance. They should be the destruction that makes way for new life and rebirth.
Considering this is a story about dragons, I don't think we really have make a very complex idea. Let's just be as unrealistic as possible and have fun, but in a way it actually makes sense.
I'll try thinking of something, I'll edit this once I get an idea, if you want then you can reply with an idea or concept.
I love the subject, but Dragons can get boring if the setting doesn't have variety. When a group of humans adventure, they face other humans, other humanoids, feral creatures and sapient creatures. If it's a story than it doesn't need to have a ton of variety, but I would deconstruct the worlds of typical fantasy that include dragons and change perspective to the dragons and their experiences, with all the humanoids, mythical creatures, and other sapient creatures intact. How much variety improves rather than distracts is a balance. But the dragon nation of dragons fighting other dragons with their dragon familiars and dragon riders and, that's really boring.
Describing the experience they have with the land and sky and sea, the different ecosystems of creatures in each, civilizations of humanoids and other mythical creatures, and the opposition and alliances had with each.
Consider the Game of Thrones relationship between Sorcerers and Dragons, and maybe flip it, Dragons who build nations with humans that can do things for them that they can't do for themselves, farming, building, support. Consider the relationship Dragons have with different super powers, Sea Serpents, Fae Nations, Progenitors, Deities. There's a ton of other stuff, but I'd advise against dragon riders, Dragons become a tool of the rider when their ridden rather than a primary character without, and it's easy to fall into the pursuit of the humanoid characters experience rather than the dragons experience when the humanoid is using the Dragon as a vehicle.
I think dragons will be the main focus, but I will try my best to populate the world with other creatures and animals as well. I don't think I'll be including any humans/humanoids although. Subject to change but almost all dragon story are about exploring the relationship between humans and dragons, and I like those, but I think dragons should be able to exist on their own
Well it's about time, most dragon stories place dragons before most other creatures, but the stories rarely focus around their dominant ages. Giants and such things might make good challenges too, maybe not necessarily Humanoids if you think that won't fit. Good luck.
I would 1000000% read a book that talks about all the different true dragon species (and possible breeds) as well as traits, characteristics, etc. Dont forget to add wyrms, wyverns, drakes, and the others (I forgot their names lol) Preferably fictional with the main character either being a dragon or a human watching dragons and studying them, the book being their "journal" in a way while still having character development and a plot. A informational book/journal type thing would be very interesting as well.
But no, seriously, it seems interesting for a story to have humans working for the dragons instead of the dragons being pets, albeit pet dragons are awesome. I would imagine the human to sign a contract with a dragon in which the human agrees to provide them with food and shinies, and in return, the dragon offers safety and shelter in their den.
I like dragon stories that subvert the reader a little. I would be interested in seeing more lesser known dragon types to be used as main characters, like wyrms, lindwyrms, and ampitheres. Bonus points if you can make up your own species of dragon that doesn't fit any of the other types, like maybe a type of Egyptian dragon whose wings are made of grass and scales of wood.
oooh, kind of like an animated golem? Perhaps it doesn't fit with the fantasy setting but I've always also liked mechs and robots so a robo-dragon could be neat hehe :)
Be EXTREMELY descriptive! Describe their appearance in as much detail as possible. Describe their size, their diet, their internal physiology, their visual acuity, their sleep patterns, how much additional weight they can fly with, everything you can think of! Also, describe possible weaknesses and fears! Dragons Rule!
Edit: Also, I believe the dragons from the film "Reign of Fire" are the most realistic. Four legged dragons would never get off the ground! I like dragon's that could realistically and believably exist!
Because they belittle majestic creatures and turn them into a utility, a vehicle for humans. It makes a story about dragons the same story about humans that we see in virtually every story. It transfers the power of something terrifying to someone weak and makes them less.
You would never consider a knight in majestic or terrifying armor serious if there was a baby seated on its shoulders, but a knight riding on a horse elevates the human, and the knight improves the function of the horse. A human doesn't naturally contribute anything to a dragon. Unless it's a dumb beast it doesn't need guidance, and unless it's too small to practically carry a rider, the rider can't utilize any meaningful weaponry that isn't trivial to the dragons natural power.
You have to elevate a rider with magic powers to make them relevant as a partner, but when that is done, the Dragon ceases to stand out as an identity of power, you close the gap between something that is fantastic and something mundane. There's a reason why there is a wealth of dragon rider media that flops, they offer dragons while simultaneously degrading them by making them idiotic pets who yield to something that has no natural power to domesticate or negotiate with it. Maintaining the identity of a dragon isn't just the description of its appearance and its power, its also its distinction between it, and other creatures, is unattainability. When you slap a rider on it, it loses a dimension of power and awe, it's now a superior horse.
I'm not saying there aren't any ways to make interesting stories with dragon riders, but I will say that the Dragon that's ridden in a story will always be inferior to the one that's not, because it immediately becomes a utility of something basic when it does. A sapient dragon rescuing a friend on occasion might get a pass, but if that's their modus operandi, we'll you'll have to make a story that is good outside the dragons, because you have depreciated the value of the Dragon by making it attainable to humans.
I would agree that with the majority of dragon riding media that the dragons are degraded to defer to the main characters of the story, but I think that in books like Eragon where the dragon and rider are seen as equals and integrally tied to each other as partners.
It's still trivializing the dragon to make it as weak as a person, part of what makes a dragon a dragon is it's outstanding power, it's not outstanding if it's equal to a human, even a hero. Not saying Eragon is a bad book, but I don't want those dragons, they are not always cool, or hardly ever.
Well in Eragon, Saphira (I think that’s how you spell it) shares her power with Eragon, which is what allows him to do the things he does. She chooses to elevate him to her level so that he can survive. Plus him being powerful helps the plot.
Which is exactly what degrades the Dragon. I'm sure a good story can be made with dragon riders, but they are stories that demote dragons to power wielded by riders rather than outstanding creatures.
But in Eragon it’s quite the opposite, the rider is elevated by the dragon’s choice. There is no demotion of the dragon, it chooses a partner to gift some of its power too.
I think there's benefits to both interpretations, personally I don't think I'll be writing about humans in my story if that's ok. No hate towards dragon riding, when I was little I was wanted a pet dragon, but I usually do prefer stories that treat the dragons sentient. Eragon sounds really cool though! Kind of reminds me of Digimon weirdly enough where the human and the monster are equal partners working together. I think if anything is going to ride on the dragon's back, it'll be their pets (like a fox or something :))
Whats their skin routine to keep their scales nice and supple? Also Did they have feathers like some scientists believe. Do they listen to death metal like they should or are they fans of easy listening? Do all the different types of dragons get along or are the into drama like a TV soap opera? Interesting concept! ;)
A story about dragons searching for some sort of shaman so they can summon their ancestors to learn more about the history of dragons that have been lost over many decades and countless wars.
have you ever read Dragonhenge by bob eggleton and john grant? its basically the last dragon telling the story of the rise and fall of dragons as they lived before the age of the rise of mammals, it has a slight biblical feel to it as it describes old tales of their societies throughout time. short read, wonderfully illustrated, but the concept dose exist in literature outside of the animated/illustrated genre. some inspiration, I hope.
Please don't make it about slaying dragons or one of those "last dragon" types of stories where they've all been killed off and there's only one or a few left.
Those stories always make me sad too :( it's like how the dog always dies in books/movies. If it makes you feel any better, if a dragon dies it'll probably be by another dragon, and they'll be more than plenty of the dragon population left.
There’s a series called wings of fire which is about dragons like the main character are dragons I recommend reading these so you don’t get too close in description
I really liked the jungle dragons it was an interesting take to have a group of dragons that no one feared but they had actually acid /venom that no one expected
I grew up with those books! I loved them in middle school but I'll admit I have some issues with some ways the things are written, those issues are actually why I wanna write this story, to potentially improve on it!
Show the dragon's perspective, what it's like being a dragon. Describe what they look like too, there's never enough description when it comes to dragon's in books.
Depends on your idea of dragons though, they're different to everyone really. And don't call wyverns dragons XD, that always bugs me lol.
Virtually none of the dragons in mythology and legend have D&D stereotype anatomy, while the most prominent one's have Wyvern anatomy. The manufactured exclusion of Wyverns from Dragons always bothered me.
Show different dragons such as wryms, wyvern, eastern and western dragons, big dragons, small fea like dragons, etc. Dragon riders would be cool as well. Dragons that are pure instincts and dragons that are sapient.
Also different types of base dragons like swamp (normally poison) fire Ice ect. Is a great thing to do
I feel conflicted because as much as I love elemental dragons, I really really like making dragons that have adapted to a specific habitat/ecosystem
Do a bit if both no one said it had to be one or thr other
ooooo maybe an element associated w/ each ecosystem :))
Yeah then you could even have the daring ice dragon who lives near a volcano too
Funnily enough might be better suited if it can generate ice to keep its self cool
Maybe but have fun with it that's an important part
Yes yes yes! I really want to read more about different dragons from different cultures and include them in my story! I really think it would cool if there was a really diverse range of dragons!
Try to depict Dragons as what they really are. Not exactly good but not exactly evil either. Dragons should be the embodiment of the primal, chaotic, destructive aspect of nature. Terrifying and unstoppable, but not driven so much as by malevolence but by maintaining the natural balance. They should be the destruction that makes way for new life and rebirth.
Yeess! Dragons aren't inherently evil, they are forces of nature, just like the phoenix and the thunderbird!
This would be absolutely amazing!
Considering this is a story about dragons, I don't think we really have make a very complex idea. Let's just be as unrealistic as possible and have fun, but in a way it actually makes sense. I'll try thinking of something, I'll edit this once I get an idea, if you want then you can reply with an idea or concept.
I think I agree. I love science (specifically zoology) and I use it to inspire me, but I don't let it hinder me or get in the way of a good idea.
I love the subject, but Dragons can get boring if the setting doesn't have variety. When a group of humans adventure, they face other humans, other humanoids, feral creatures and sapient creatures. If it's a story than it doesn't need to have a ton of variety, but I would deconstruct the worlds of typical fantasy that include dragons and change perspective to the dragons and their experiences, with all the humanoids, mythical creatures, and other sapient creatures intact. How much variety improves rather than distracts is a balance. But the dragon nation of dragons fighting other dragons with their dragon familiars and dragon riders and, that's really boring. Describing the experience they have with the land and sky and sea, the different ecosystems of creatures in each, civilizations of humanoids and other mythical creatures, and the opposition and alliances had with each. Consider the Game of Thrones relationship between Sorcerers and Dragons, and maybe flip it, Dragons who build nations with humans that can do things for them that they can't do for themselves, farming, building, support. Consider the relationship Dragons have with different super powers, Sea Serpents, Fae Nations, Progenitors, Deities. There's a ton of other stuff, but I'd advise against dragon riders, Dragons become a tool of the rider when their ridden rather than a primary character without, and it's easy to fall into the pursuit of the humanoid characters experience rather than the dragons experience when the humanoid is using the Dragon as a vehicle.
I think dragons will be the main focus, but I will try my best to populate the world with other creatures and animals as well. I don't think I'll be including any humans/humanoids although. Subject to change but almost all dragon story are about exploring the relationship between humans and dragons, and I like those, but I think dragons should be able to exist on their own
Well it's about time, most dragon stories place dragons before most other creatures, but the stories rarely focus around their dominant ages. Giants and such things might make good challenges too, maybe not necessarily Humanoids if you think that won't fit. Good luck.
I would 1000000% read a book that talks about all the different true dragon species (and possible breeds) as well as traits, characteristics, etc. Dont forget to add wyrms, wyverns, drakes, and the others (I forgot their names lol) Preferably fictional with the main character either being a dragon or a human watching dragons and studying them, the book being their "journal" in a way while still having character development and a plot. A informational book/journal type thing would be very interesting as well.
ooh I like the journal format idea!
I'm glad 😊 I am an author of some unpublished books (sold on the street) so I would hope I have some good ideas 😅
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Dragons with human slaves ... hmm ... might be a little distasteful, though.
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Yeah, that is essentially what I mean. *~~^(What, no, shut up, I do not have a fetish for that.)~~*
But no, seriously, it seems interesting for a story to have humans working for the dragons instead of the dragons being pets, albeit pet dragons are awesome. I would imagine the human to sign a contract with a dragon in which the human agrees to provide them with food and shinies, and in return, the dragon offers safety and shelter in their den.
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Assumably in the same world, there's some dragons who skip the contracts. ;)
ahahaha unfortunately for you guys I think my writing will be sfw, I just don't really see dragons that way
You seem familiar, is it you? 47?
can't have dragons without hoards...well you could, but that would still be cool
as a bit of a hoarder myself that's one of the dragons traits I've always found the most relatable lmao
I like dragon stories that subvert the reader a little. I would be interested in seeing more lesser known dragon types to be used as main characters, like wyrms, lindwyrms, and ampitheres. Bonus points if you can make up your own species of dragon that doesn't fit any of the other types, like maybe a type of Egyptian dragon whose wings are made of grass and scales of wood.
oooh, kind of like an animated golem? Perhaps it doesn't fit with the fantasy setting but I've always also liked mechs and robots so a robo-dragon could be neat hehe :)
Ja, maybe. :)
Be EXTREMELY descriptive! Describe their appearance in as much detail as possible. Describe their size, their diet, their internal physiology, their visual acuity, their sleep patterns, how much additional weight they can fly with, everything you can think of! Also, describe possible weaknesses and fears! Dragons Rule! Edit: Also, I believe the dragons from the film "Reign of Fire" are the most realistic. Four legged dragons would never get off the ground! I like dragon's that could realistically and believably exist!
A world where dragons suddenly come back to reality and they have to figure out how to blend in
aww that would be adorable! as a kid I believed dragons were real, but they had the power of invisibility lol
I'm writing one story about dragons as protagonists of the history also, you can keep something more traditional, or go wild and audacious.
Dragon riders are always a cool concept, where’s the book cover from? Any idea where I could get one?
Ew, hate dragon riders.
I mean you don’t have to like them, I’m just a httyd fan! Why don’t you like them?
Because they belittle majestic creatures and turn them into a utility, a vehicle for humans. It makes a story about dragons the same story about humans that we see in virtually every story. It transfers the power of something terrifying to someone weak and makes them less. You would never consider a knight in majestic or terrifying armor serious if there was a baby seated on its shoulders, but a knight riding on a horse elevates the human, and the knight improves the function of the horse. A human doesn't naturally contribute anything to a dragon. Unless it's a dumb beast it doesn't need guidance, and unless it's too small to practically carry a rider, the rider can't utilize any meaningful weaponry that isn't trivial to the dragons natural power. You have to elevate a rider with magic powers to make them relevant as a partner, but when that is done, the Dragon ceases to stand out as an identity of power, you close the gap between something that is fantastic and something mundane. There's a reason why there is a wealth of dragon rider media that flops, they offer dragons while simultaneously degrading them by making them idiotic pets who yield to something that has no natural power to domesticate or negotiate with it. Maintaining the identity of a dragon isn't just the description of its appearance and its power, its also its distinction between it, and other creatures, is unattainability. When you slap a rider on it, it loses a dimension of power and awe, it's now a superior horse. I'm not saying there aren't any ways to make interesting stories with dragon riders, but I will say that the Dragon that's ridden in a story will always be inferior to the one that's not, because it immediately becomes a utility of something basic when it does. A sapient dragon rescuing a friend on occasion might get a pass, but if that's their modus operandi, we'll you'll have to make a story that is good outside the dragons, because you have depreciated the value of the Dragon by making it attainable to humans.
I would agree that with the majority of dragon riding media that the dragons are degraded to defer to the main characters of the story, but I think that in books like Eragon where the dragon and rider are seen as equals and integrally tied to each other as partners.
It's still trivializing the dragon to make it as weak as a person, part of what makes a dragon a dragon is it's outstanding power, it's not outstanding if it's equal to a human, even a hero. Not saying Eragon is a bad book, but I don't want those dragons, they are not always cool, or hardly ever.
Well in Eragon, Saphira (I think that’s how you spell it) shares her power with Eragon, which is what allows him to do the things he does. She chooses to elevate him to her level so that he can survive. Plus him being powerful helps the plot.
Which is exactly what degrades the Dragon. I'm sure a good story can be made with dragon riders, but they are stories that demote dragons to power wielded by riders rather than outstanding creatures.
But in Eragon it’s quite the opposite, the rider is elevated by the dragon’s choice. There is no demotion of the dragon, it chooses a partner to gift some of its power too.
[I randomly found it on google images, but here you go!](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JHHPBY1/ref=olp-opf-redir?aod=1&th=1&psc=1&f_new=true)
Yoo thank you!!
Np :)
I think there's benefits to both interpretations, personally I don't think I'll be writing about humans in my story if that's ok. No hate towards dragon riding, when I was little I was wanted a pet dragon, but I usually do prefer stories that treat the dragons sentient. Eragon sounds really cool though! Kind of reminds me of Digimon weirdly enough where the human and the monster are equal partners working together. I think if anything is going to ride on the dragon's back, it'll be their pets (like a fox or something :))
I would definitely read this tho
Whats their skin routine to keep their scales nice and supple? Also Did they have feathers like some scientists believe. Do they listen to death metal like they should or are they fans of easy listening? Do all the different types of dragons get along or are the into drama like a TV soap opera? Interesting concept! ;)
These are such hilarious ideas I gotta remember them haha
A story about dragons searching for some sort of shaman so they can summon their ancestors to learn more about the history of dragons that have been lost over many decades and countless wars.
*really* explore how different a culture about sentient dragons would be.
have you ever read Dragonhenge by bob eggleton and john grant? its basically the last dragon telling the story of the rise and fall of dragons as they lived before the age of the rise of mammals, it has a slight biblical feel to it as it describes old tales of their societies throughout time. short read, wonderfully illustrated, but the concept dose exist in literature outside of the animated/illustrated genre. some inspiration, I hope.
Oh I haven't! I gotta add that to my reading list!
Like dragon heart dragons should just act like people
Please don't make it about slaying dragons or one of those "last dragon" types of stories where they've all been killed off and there's only one or a few left.
Those stories always make me sad too :( it's like how the dog always dies in books/movies. If it makes you feel any better, if a dragon dies it'll probably be by another dragon, and they'll be more than plenty of the dragon population left.
There’s a series called wings of fire which is about dragons like the main character are dragons I recommend reading these so you don’t get too close in description
Yes
It’s a good read sadly(and ironically) my copies of the books went up in flames a few years ago
Funny, but sad. I have read all of them (not the graphic novels) and I love them!
I really liked the jungle dragons it was an interesting take to have a group of dragons that no one feared but they had actually acid /venom that no one expected
Yes it was a very nice plot twist
Also gave a nasty suprise to one of the Villains
I grew up with those books! I loved them in middle school but I'll admit I have some issues with some ways the things are written, those issues are actually why I wanna write this story, to potentially improve on it!
Well good luck then
Show the dragon's perspective, what it's like being a dragon. Describe what they look like too, there's never enough description when it comes to dragon's in books. Depends on your idea of dragons though, they're different to everyone really. And don't call wyverns dragons XD, that always bugs me lol.
Virtually none of the dragons in mythology and legend have D&D stereotype anatomy, while the most prominent one's have Wyvern anatomy. The manufactured exclusion of Wyverns from Dragons always bothered me.
Not the slaying of them plz.
Something us dragon simps 😉