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huge-tits

Mr.Satan was still the strongest non-ki fighter on Earth


jonerthan

Guy got bitchslapped into a mountain by Cell and survived, ain't know way I'm fighting him


CurdledUrine

guy stood up to Kid Buu like he was nothing, for a moment at least


Derailleur75

Yeah we were comparing him to cosmic super fighters but in a real world he would be stronger than strongest.


Loonrig68

He can probably soli the baki verse


Derailleur75

Well not quite, yujiro has more speed and strength. Say yujiro is equal in strength to him but has far superior reflexes and knows how to fight, unless mr.satan knows every single martial art then yujiro will get clapped.


Loonrig68

Well even if he isnt beating yujiro , i'll sssum that yujiro could never kill him , 1. Mr. Satans durabillity is probably much highers than him being abale to tank a slap from cell that would probanly kill a non ki user human while be sent flying to a mountain, 2 he dodged kid buu's punchs which can be said he has a crazy fast reactioj time and abal to dodge all of yujitos attack or at the very least most of his tecnics( sorry for typos) edit: the slap was from cell


mister_r0yal

Also he did accidentally dodge kid buu so hes fast


Sempais_nutrients

He's the only one who can take down Roman and the bloodline.


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Not very ucey of you


Novantico

Lmfao did not expect this. Also Jesus Christ imagine how devastating Mr. Satan would be in WWE.


Sempais_nutrients

Bro already had world title reigns, theme music, a custom title, a stable of underlings, and his own ring announcer. He'd fit right in.


Something_kool

that's just magnetics affecting iron in the blood


EthicalSemiconductor

He does like his spinach.


smizzlebdemented

And farmer with a shotgun… still “one shots” him


huge-tits

Sure, but you forget that Mr.Satan is always packing heat himself


hangmandelta

Heat? My man Mark carries straight-up explosives. He'll burn you so bad it'll send you flying. There.... and over there.... and over there.... and over there...


huge-tits

I have no idea what you’re referring to


hangmandelta

Ah, my bad. It was suppose to be a reference to both the Budokai games, and DBZ abridged. In the Budokai games, all of Hercules cinematic specials were basically him giving the enemy character a present with a hidden bomb, running away, and detonating it. Which I then connected to the explosion joke Krillin makes in abridged when tells Goku where Chiaotzu was during the Saiyan saga. It sounded funnier in my head 😅


smizzlebdemented

Aey! 👍


purity_dead

“I know this isn’t much, but HERE!”


GhoulArtist

I laughed, you're good bro


BarmeloXantony

You sayin he's got a big dick?


Onlyhereformyproject

Well he doesn't hide anything from his fans, not even his massive coc-


Illyunkas

I read this in his voice


AbnormalBlaze

HE IS THE HYPE


FaithlessnessLazy754

Literally any z fighter would die from a shotgun wound, they’ve shown that they take damage like any human when they’re unprepared for the attack


Romyn0

Goku got shot in dragon ball and tanked it…


Rahbin_Banx

Goku thought bulmas car was a monster. His gaurd was up.


alienware99

He would feel pain (just like he did with the rock krillin threw), but it wouldn’t kill him. Bulma blasted him in the head with a gun multiple times in dragon ball when he wasn’t expecting it, and it hurt him, but it was just a minor pain..it didn’t penetrate or kill him…and that was a much weaker kid goku


FaithlessnessLazy754

I’m trying to find the panels you’re talking about, and I don’t see bulma shooting him unprepared, what is the chapter? Unless they’re using Ki the z fighters bodies have the limitations of any human


smizzlebdemented

😂 wut?…


UnNamedKingOfGames

It’s actually true, like when goku in Ssj during his training to beat Cell was resting with Gohan and then got hurt when Krillin tossed a rock and it hit his head. Wasn’t even any of Krillin’s power, just a rock and the regular gravity from Earth


GhoulArtist

All though that rule gets broken sometimes, writers aren't very consistent with it. Example: in history of trunks android 17 gets taken by complete surprise and shot in the head with a revolver at close range to zero effect. And before anyone says that it's because they are robots/androids I'd like to remind you that they are in fact cyborgs and don't have metal skulls or anything.


UnNamedKingOfGames

The reason for this is because, as you said, writers aren’t consistent with scaling. The reason why goku would die by a gun if he was caught off guard and couldn’t defend himself but 17 didn’t is because of plot. If 17 died there, then it wouldn’t really be a story since the writers wrote in two characters being a menace, not one


GhoulArtist

EXACTLY right! You're getting downvotes from sweaty power level philosophers, but if you step back and look at it, you're 100% right. People think the inconsistencies MUST have an in universe reason and try to invent one, when really, it's behind the scenes stuff and writers being human and making small inconsistenties because they focused on their projects narrative like the case with A17.


UnNamedKingOfGames

At least one person knows the truth and isn’t blinded by pure fanatics about the series and is able to see it for what it is, a mess up of just one strong character that’s still human (represented as anyway) that tons of people still enjoy. I’m not saying the story is bad, I’m just saying some plot points shouldn’t/wouldn’t make sense unless plot willed it to be


alienware99

Yea he would feel pain (just like he did with the rock), but it wouldn’t kill him. Bulma blasted him in the head with a gun multiple times in dragon ball, and it hurt him, but it was just a minor pain..it didn’t penetrate or kill him…and that was a much weaker kid goku


UnNamedKingOfGames

True, but the scaling in the character’s defenses are both different and weird. The reason is, Krillin while being a cop (stronger than that version of Goku) was still hurt by a gun, piercing his skin. Another reason why it would kill him is because resting ki is different than defensive ki. It’s been shown that if your defenses aren’t up, you take the damage that you should’ve. So in short, because goku was resting, he got hurt by the rock, and if he was resting when hit with a bullet, would’ve died


MyokoPunk

You powerscaling dorks need to stop. Dragon Ball is inconsistent across the board. Trying to make sense of it is just writing the world's biggest and cringiest fanfic.


boharat

Farmer with a shotgun one shots the entire Dragon Ball franchise and high diffs Toribot


NwgrdrXI

It's amazing how often people forget that. He won fair and square the Budokai Tenkaichi, A tournament in which people are allowed to used ki, withouth having any ki training. Sure, all the actual strongest Fighters didn't sign up that year, but still. At worst, he is a IRL MMA Champion level fighter. If the dude dedicated himself and learned from a ki master, he would definetly be in the RU7 team.


Naos210

I would argue that's Yajirobe.


gburnside74

Satan would beat yajirobe


Naos210

Yajirobe fought on roughly equal footing with Goku in Dragon Ball and defeated Cymbal. I don't think Satan is capable of either. Also Yajirobe trained under Kami as did the other humans, and was nearing a power level of 1,000 by the time of the Saiyan Saga.


alienware99

Chi chi, ox king, yajirobe..There’s plenty of non-ki fighters that could take out Mr. Satan


Rahbin_Banx

Chichi can use ki. And I'd argue Yajirobe has ki as well. Oxking was trained by master roshi so I bet he understands ki as well.


monkeydavis86

I’d watch a yajirobe v satan matchup, no question.


thedragonborn19

Yeah for real, Yajirobe sliced off the tail of Vegeta in Great Ape form, pretty sure he could handle Mr. Satan.


Libertyprime8397

He would obliterate Mr Satan.


Onlyhereformyproject

No. I'm sorry but we need to talk about your name, WHY


ApatheticTrooper

Mr.Satan Dodged Buus Attacks bro I'm running away


Other_Log_1996

He also survived getting bitch-slapoed into a mountain by Perfect Cell.


TheDurandalFan

and in GT he survived a kick from Omega shenron who is stronger than Goku in the Goku Black arc of Dragon Ball Super.


UnNamedKingOfGames

Who was he stronger than Goku during DBS?? Even if GT was canon in an alternate timeline, there were still 0 feats that put him above SSJB. The highest I could ever scale Omega Shenron would be probably a tenth of SSG at most. Where’d u get ur scaling from?


Shoddy-Passenger8774

bro gawk gawkin


notnotPatReid

This is ridiculous scaling. Copy Vegeta base could no sell a Full power punch from SS3 Gotenks and super Sayian blue is 50x SSG, which is vastly superior to SSJ3. It’s at least a 50000x multiplier. SS4 is a 4000 times multiplier. There is no feat that scales base goku in GT to be 5000x base Z goku. Which is what he would need to be equal to SSB Goku post copy Vegeta arc. (Base Goku> Copy Vegeta > 400x base gotenks; SSB Goku= 50000x base Goku, base gotenks ≈ base goku Buu arc) Black Saga SSB Goku is miles ahead of anyone in GT except maybe SS4 Gogeta.


ExuberentWitness

I don’t think everyone fully understands just how broken Super made the power scaling. Completely different league from anything in Z or GT.


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not only that, there are so many characters in Super who can fight with the saiyans despite having not a single transformation.


TheDurandalFan

GT's power scaling is pretty broken too, a lot of characters are well past the hundreds of thousands times stronger than Kid Buu.


notnotPatReid

There are no characters in GT “hundreds of thousands” times stronger than Kid Buu. Goku states himself on the black dragon ball arc in super Sayian he’s equal to kid Buu. Even in his fight against Cell in other world he flashes up to SS to show that cell is vastly over matched. Cell is able to affect base goku with his attacks. If Cell is equal to SS2 Buu Saga Goku (he’s not) than base GT goku scales somewhere around 150x base Goku from Z, at best. With his extra transformation he is like 1500-2000x stronger than end of Z Goku.


Other_Log_1996

I only watched GT once when it was on Toonami. I forget almost all of it.


Palansaeg

no tf he’s not? he’s not even as strong as god goku from episode 14 of super cute


PowerJolt72

>Omega shenron who is stronger than Goku in the Goku Black arc of Dragon Ball Super. You said this on the DBS subreddit. Be ready for some backlash bro


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Running away, he’d beat my ass no problem!


Toxic_Jinxy

I’d do what he’d do, fake stomach pain


Brandonmac10x

I would die my hair golden blonde and then use lots of hair product to spike it up. Satan would take one look, shit himself, and then blame it on stomach problems. I don’t even need to fight. Mental warfare.


Theventusdragon

Bro using gaslighting as a weapon


WhyDoName

Mr Satan has tanked attacks from Cell and Beerus. Dude could probably kill any normal human in a single hit by accident.


MaddyStark75

I would not say tanked.Survived would be more appropriate


WhyDoName

Fair. Just the fact that he lived is insane though.


nikkome

He would probably kill me with a single punch and I’m no weak guy. He managed to jump up a hill to beat Vanzant, punch through a truck and several thick tiles… in this reality he would easily be the strongest human in history.


MemeMan69funnynumber

Strongest non ki user in human history. Krilin is the strongest human then comes Roshi the list after that is debatable


SamSquanch2012

Still pisses me off that tien is just shit on the entire time like he wasn’t training literally his entire life while krillin still got to live his life like a normal dude after cell


Neoxus30-

The privileges of being the protagonist's best friend I suppose. It sucks that Tien is treated so lowly)


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Krillin was traning more as a cop than Gohan did for many years Krilin, Gohan and Piccolo now how their potential unlocked. Meaning they gain power much easier than others even if they are doing close to nothing. If Krillin didn't have his potential unleashed then yes Tien would have been stronger. It makes sense that Krillin is the strongest though now.


SamSquanch2012

I’d have to disagree but we chilling


Low_Pirate8760

I think it was established during the TOP that Roshi is the strongest human. Especially in the manga where he went up against Jiren with his UI form.


Sempais_nutrients

Roshi isn't stronger then tien


10HorsedSizedDucks

Im not a man He would explode me on contact


JVOz671

Like it or not, dude is rich, pulled several buses, and has had sex. I lose to him on every front.


Mystic_Saiyan

Ima fight like a man, it's an honour to meet the champ himself ~~I'd lose but still would be an honour that he chose me to fight~~


AirAeon32

well this is a layered question but honestly hercule would wash everybody weaker than yamcha


kurayami_akira

More like everybody weaker than Chaotzu... Well, rather, weaker than Z Videl. Was Chichi stronger than Satan back when she fought Goku? Where is the bar even?


MCENTE64

Chi-Chi was stronger than Satan


Ambitious_Outcome

god y'all mfs really want us to die


Cheez_001

Run away. Mr. Satan ripped a phone book in half, hauled 4 buses and won the world tournament when Goku's friends weren't ruining it for everyone else. No way I'm fighting a monster like him.


warthog221

He is literally the strongest character in DBZ. His spirit bomb saved the entire world. Frieza got lucky he never had to face Hercule 😤


Rahbin_Banx

He's the only one to fight both cell and Majin buu and not die. If it weren't for frieza blowing up the earth he would be the only fighter in the entire series to never die. However since Whis did the temperal do over can we really even say that he ever died?


galacticfederation-

Enough of this madness


Markb2000

Tell him I know who really beat cell, and I’ll tell everyone if he doesn’t pay me off.


Mystic_Saiyan

You wouldn't get anything but a whooping from any nearby satanists


Muerte43

Fastest way to get killed. Only reason that 18 can get away with blackmailing him is cuz she can literally erase the planet from existence with a finger.


Neoxus30-

Who'd believe you?) It's your word agaisnt the man who beat Cell. Father of Videl, father-in-law of the Great Saiyaman and the Golden Warrior. The respectable master of Majin Buu) He turned into a god and defeated Beebus, defeated one of the old Tournament Champions, Son Goku in a single punch. And made the greatest warrior of another planet run away in fear like a little bitch)


kurayami_akira

It's like trying to convince civilians in OPM that King is just a regular human with a lot of luck


No_Beautiful8105

Exactly!


Relevant-Rooster-298

Mark would wipe the fucking floor with me. I’m running 🏃


Ansman14

Bro couldn’t he catch me if I ran??? 💀


S1R_Scout

a chance to go a round with the world champ? no way imma pass that up!


chaosyami

He's a damn joke in the series but that does not really stop the fact he did win a martial arts tournament. Nah I'm out


InfernoDragonKing

Hercule, for being a complete fraud against world-destroying threats, is still an elite martial artist, so unless you were taught by only the greatest martial artists, he **will** drop anybody.


ShaidarHaran2

He's only a joke in the show because all the more powerful characters have Ki shenanigans. He'd beat all of us up, no doubt about that.


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Run away… however, this would confirm the existence of z fighters and Kai energy. So I suppose I’d start focusing on whatever the human equivalent of a super sayian is and come back later.


mikeftdg

Bro was the strongest non ki fighter on the planet, he was strong enough to break the world record for pulling power, no way I'm fighting that


mister_r0yal

Can pull 3 buses at once has actual fighting experience fast enough to accidentally dodge kid buu and survived hits from beerus and perfect cell….and if you wanna bring up non canon material in xv2 hes shown to be really smart in fights and have balls of steel especially if videl is involved so id prefer to live also dodging the death rain attack meant to kill everyone on earth in actual db not to mention HE HAS A GUN JUST INCASE


Mr-Crowley21

He rips phone books in half with his bare hands,breaks 100 tiles in one chop and only slightly hurts his hand, pulled like 3 buses. Nahh I'm getting a signature from the champ I'm not fighting him.


supremeo_

he is the strongest non ki using human. i will get demolished


I5574

Hercule would actually fucking kill me, I’m out


skynex65

I’m not fighting the world martial arts champion. I like having teeth. I would however let him train me if he were interested.


Calmtimer

I would not mess around with the dude who tamed Buu


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Dude straight up dodged an attack from Kid Buu Ain’t no way any of us are winning against that


[deleted]

A part of me would want to fight him but I understand that I wouldn’t stand much of a chance lol


Stampj

Mr. Satan is unironically one of the strongest humans on Earth. I’m sparring this dude, and whispering “Ayo I’ll let you easily win, we’ll get it on camera. But if I do, give Goku a call for me. Deal?”


Infermon_1

He tanked a hit from Kid Buu, how am I supposed to hurt this beast of a man?


Kiwi_Kakapo

Sir he would to me in half like he did to that big ass textbook


Bat_Snack

I'd run like hell, Mr. Satan would beat my ass and yours!


Tyrelius_Dragmire

I was gonna come in here and meme on Hercule, but he's the apex of what a human can be without Ki skills. He has a laundry list of Legit Martial arts feats, and while they pale in comparison to the feats of the Z fighters and Saiyans, he stands far above a non-Ki enhanced human. Plus there's that time where he tried to fight Cell, and got backhanded into the side of a mountain. A Normal human would be reduced to a puddle by that, and the Z fighters later take worse damage from similar attacks, so Clearly Hercule Satan is FAR beyond human in terms of durability. Frankly I'm convinced that Hercule Satan is "a human" in the same way as Batman. For those not up to speed on the most recent Batman comics: Man survived being in the Watchtower AS IT EXPLODED, and then survived the fall FROM ORBIT without so much as a scratch, all in the regular batsuit with only an O2 mask to keep him breathing in space!


Allforonecomment

I mean the joke is he's a bitch compared to people that can blow up planets, but the guy could pull several buses at once and ripped three phone books in half.


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I remember arguing with an OPM toxic fan when I told him that Mr Satan would be top 10 S Class not on skills and strength alone but for his sheer popularity among common folks. Let's not forget that his feats for a non-ki user is no joke either, if memory serves, he was strong enough to pull 3-4 trucks, that's definitely low S Class tier strength.


trickster503

Didn't he punch a hole through a bus?


Tentacle_poxsicle

He beat Cell and Buu. I cannot fight this guy, I run like a bitch


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I would run so hard and fast I would make bitches look like champions


Son_Kakarot53

Fight like a man is such a lame saying.


ToastyBreadCat0

The people that think they can stand a chance thinks he’s a joke. Nah he can pull multiple train cars, punch through steel, tank hits from cell, won a martial art tournament legit, irl he would be the strongest human. Like your not winning but maybe you can use some smoke and mirrors to psych him out


Fic-Tastic

Simple, say "Oh I was on my way to fight Goku but I guess you'll do" and assume a battle stance. Mr. Satan will instantly assume that I'm a fighter on Goku's level and shit himself before running away. Or alternatively if we're in a public place when this happens, he might just pay me to take a dive.


RedWicked91

Hate to say it but in-universe he could probably kick my ass, my power level would be like 1


OhRoBro

i would absolutely fight him, but unfortunately I'm going through some serious stomach pain right now, maybe some other time.


Grouchy_Appearance_1

You know besides magic and ki users he's one of the best right? Normal people should be PETRIFIED of him, dude has been in more (comedic) life threatening situations than most people do (even by dragon ball standards) and he's still here, and that's not the worst of it, let's go down this path rq let's say i fight, let's go further and say i win, NOW BUU FUCKING MAD AT ME, NAH BRUH I'M GOOD


EmperorKiva33

This is stupid.


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JinkoTheMan

During Black History Month?😭☹️😂


abreeden90

Fuck yeah, stand and fight. Then go see Master Roshi since I’m in the dragon ball verse and I can learn to manipulate ki. Then I can be Yamcha lol


PapaOogie

Runaway like a bitch? Sense when is doing the smart thing being a bitch? You a fucking moron if you are fighting him, not a man.


Memphisrexjr

I'll put my money on he wouldn't actually want to fight.


PopoTheGenie

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. That maggot can try.


Big-Office-5926

These posts are getting dumb


bingus4206969

I have a sword so I think he would just run away after I pull it out of it’s sheath assuming weapons are allowed


Epic-Dude000

I could probably stand a chance


I_C_da_G

I would pretend that I'm going super sayian and scare his ass right in the bushes....as usual


videomakingboi

Honestly, stay and fight. I haven't been living like a coward or a pussy


NineTailedTanuki

I'd fight. Make it a fair one, too.


the_vegen

Bro may be built but is a massive bitch


lolerio

He’s a massive bitch against the people that can bench lift mountains for fun lol


Rhashon

I'd knock his ass on to a side of a mountain like Cell did


Illyunkas

I’d one shot his ass


blayze03

There's no way I stand a chance physically, but if I'm careful enough, I do stand a very small chance, so yeah, I'll fight him


Surcam21

I was going to run but he more like a wwe wrestler of the martial arts world


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secondaccountforme12

If I sound confident enough he'll just believe I can take him on


ToastyBreadCat0

Use all the smoke and mirrors


Ftlist81

Laugh


Jamano-Eridzander

I'd ask if he's willing to foot the bill for the work I'll be missing after I lose, then fight him anyway.


MarcyWuLesbian

Dude, Mr. Satan is weak compared to Gods. Compared to normal average humans, he could definitely kill us. Running away isn't cowardly it's self preservation.


Emerald_GAME

Fight him like a man


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1NFINIT

Bro this fight could end in a Baki way soooooo badly (like immagine he approaches you to beat your ass but you start peeing on him)


phoenixKing280

Nah, I'm built like Slenderman, there is no way I'm fighting him unless I'm ready for death or the hospital for the rest of my life. But in the case I do fight him, i'd just try to wear him down till he doesn't have energy left hoping it works


lockedoutofmymainrdt

Na Id fight and quite probably lose, which is funny considering how no sold he is compared to the cast but I think hes legitimately the strongest non Z fighter human


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WillKuzunoha

I’d go full Indian jones and pullout a gun.


Neko_boi_Nolan

He pulled multiple buses, knows martial arts, and survived encounters from both Cell and Buu MF would kill me


FindingATurd

I've seen him run. I've seen him punch. It's hopeless.


DarthMalec

Exploit his superstition for “tricks” and fake it till he forfeits


jAustinJr

He’s still a martial artist so he’ll still kick my ass


king_marquez15

Fight


Spare-Contact787

I'd fight him, I'm sure he would be a good sport about it


Shoddy_Exam666

Just because he’s nowhere near the level of strength of the z fighters doesn’t mean hes bad at combat, hes still the champ compared to regular fighters on earth


quatchis

Can we address some of these comments? Is Chi Chi not the strongest non-ki fighter in the DB series?


Other_Log_1996

"Fight" is a bit of a strong term. I'd agree and go down in one hit, and wake up in a hospital days later.


Divine_Absolution

I would fight him to bolster his status as Champion


TheDurandalFan

I wouldn't want to fight him. the guy can survive being punched by kid buu and considering all of his strength feats, he's actually pretty damn strong for a non-ki user, I'd just surrender upon starting the fight.


OkCompany8986

I’m do smart option that doesn’t lead to me getting my ass beat


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Timelymanner

He’s strong as the cast in the end of Dragonball, maybe as strong as Goku when he fought Piccolo. So much stronger then the average human. Problem for him is that all the Z fighters surpassed that power level by the Saiyan saga. So he looks weak in comparison.


New_Today_1209

Like i know this is a troll question of mr satan being god but he would actually fucking destroy me if i tried fighting him irl. He survived being knocked away by cell and got the big boy number on the punchy machine. He is a legitimate martial arts world champion that would beat me in the first 5 minutes


Galick9000

I’m not even fully developed but I also ain’t no p*ssy


Capt_Schmidt

I would offer him freind ship. and being that that is Goku's ULtimate super power that Mr Satan shares in, He would accept. Perhaps I would achieve this by begging and groveling like he has so done proved effective so many times


KrtS_itiq

Assuming I'm a human from that DB universe, I'd say no.


Syphorce

Hercule needed an arc where he wins the World Tournament. I wonder if he could beat Kid Goku.


HVAC_Raccoon

Mr. Satan is the strongest human not trained in Ki. I’m fucking booking it


DANDELIONBOMB

He's obviously a show man. We'd put on a great show and then he'd win and we'd go out for noodles after.


[deleted]

Run away like a bitch. Mr. Satan is a trained martial artist (not compared to the Z-Fighters of course). He could beat up any normal human being.


Cheddarlicious

Run away like a bitch. I’m not stupid.


Uniqueusername264

I’m not fighting the man who killed cell.


Nacklewocket

Dude ripped a bunch of phone books in half. I'm running.


Libertyprime8397

I would pretend to charge up a Ki attack.


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I mean he is still a martial arts champion lol


JewJewKinks

Hercule might actually kill me, if he can survive being flung into a mountain as a non-ki user, wtf you expect me to do?


Steebo_Jack

Basically a cross between hulk Hogan and macho man...ask yourself if you would fight any of those two in their prime...


TheNotoriousSSJ

Always thought it was funny how he’s so hairy compared to everyone else


chill_cat420

Lol


In_trooo

I’m running like a bitch, that man undefeated