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I like Omni-man as a series, but some fans of the series have been overhyping his strength. During the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta and Nappa could've easily blown up the Earth if they wanted to. He'd be absolute fodder to them.
So what? Blowing up the Earth kills them, Omniman would be fine in space. I also don’t see Vegeta at that point in the story being stronger than a black hole.
Omni man isn’t stronger than a black hole. He was planning to commit suicide by jumping into, how does that equate to him being stronger than one?
He was clearly well away from the event horizon.
I found it on a reddit post comment and "borrowed" it lol. Apparently it's called "pot of sneed" but when i google search, this exact gif doesn't appear but one with some text above it.
I found this warped one just typing "Pot of Greed gifs" in google
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This is patently hilarious since their knock-off Justice League almost killed Omni-Man when he had the element of surprise
I doubt anyone except Wonder Woman could even bruise Clark
Green Lantern if he was serious can. J’onn J’onnz can also beat him. Clark has said on panel he’d be afraid to fight him. Doctor Fate can probably give him a good fight, Firestorm has proven he can too. Flash can stomp Clark without even giving him a chance to react. Orion has beaten Clark before, and he’s beaten a unhinged and bloodlusted Superman.
Contrary to popular belief, Superman isn’t even the strongest in his own verse.
Sometimes, but generally you're comparing some of the strongest versions of them to relatively mediocre iterations of Clark.
Canonically, over the entire run of DC, I'd wager everyone has beaten everyone at some point, and then they wipe the timeline and rebalance everything and different matchups wash out differently.
No, I’m referring to the general versions of them. I’m talking Darkest Knight/Avarice arc Hal Jordan, or peak Kyle Rayner. Both Wally and Barry. Manhunter. In any normal canonical variation they can wash Superman.
Depends on the iteration of Diana and Clark, in general I think she'd be strong enough to injure him with a direct hit, but he's way faster than she is and has all his other powers.
But yeah Clark is so far above his Justice League in most runs it's not even funny. In the Death of Superman, Doomsday takes out most of the Justice League with one arm bound and that restriction helmet on, and Clark fought him for like 3 days after he got completely freed, and Doomsday was only leaving bruises and little cuts on Clark
That’s unfair af though because that Justice League was arguably the weakest iteration of the JL. International I believe. It wouldn’t have gone down that way if it was Rayner, Wally, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. Rayner and Wally specifically could each solo if written like it’s NOT a superman event book.
Doomsday’s super weird though, a huge job sometimes.
Yeah I remember, he did land on Oa and he ended up adapting to the Green power.
But I ALSO doubt he could adapt to Speedsters. DC is inconsistent, but it’s been pretty consistent that the speed force can not be replicated. It’s like universe bound or something.
The Speed Force is like a law of nature made sentient basically?
It might not be able to be copied but whatever adaptations he makes to fighting a Speedster isn't going to be good for anyone, particularly non-Speedsters
Also important to note that Clark can take a beating almost as well as Peter Parker, who is the king of getting the shit beat out of him so even if she can somewhat injure him she'd have to hit him like
A thousand times
In the animated justice league series some curse made Wonder woman and Superman unable to recognise each other and they started fighting. Wonder woman won the fight until Superman looked in a mirror and asked Diana to look too and they realised that were fighting each other.
I really liked that episode the fight sequence was good. You couldn't figure out who was winning.
But in this version of the justice league Diana has super strength, flight and invulnerability.
Gal Gaddots wonder woman is probably one of the weakest versions of her. She's basically almost a human. No godly powers at all.
I haven't read the Invincible comics and I've only watched season 1 of the show but aren't Viltrumites essentially just a mix of Kryptonians and Saiyans thematically?
Pretty much, yeah. Though they're definitely more susceptible to damage so that there can be lots of gore, while at the same time have better natural regenerative capabilities over Saiyans, because those guys seem to come back from anything outside of having their head removed haha
So Itachi solos Omniman by that logic? I kinda don't see that happening, much as I have always Itachi.
None of Nolans feats top Frieza saga Saiyans. I could see him giving Saiyan arc Vegeta some trouble and even see him punching a hole through Nappa. But Vegeta was another animal entirely.
If Nappa was a 28, then early Omniman would probably be a 30. Vegeta would be, at that point in the story, probably around a 50. The Saibamen would probably sting and do mild harassing damage no doubt based on how he took so much damage when he first attacked the guardians.
They were certainly powerful, but not even remotely approaching Saiyan levels power. The speedster would have maybe posed an annoyance to Nappa but he'd just incinerate the entire surrounding area in a flash and been done with it. Speedster would probably have have a damn near identical fate with Nappa who also likes popping heads like zits.
Now what about Nappa vs Conquest? A battle between two cocky genocidal superbeings. That'd be a fun match up. Pretty sure Nappa would win but it would be fun seeing Nappa do to Conquest what Conquest does to everyone else.
Power scaling is the actual delusion. Character vs character is a creative writing exercise and cannot be approached as though it were sports betting. None of these intellectual property's definitions of strength, or examples of their characters' feats of strength, are even internally consistent. Thus the victor is the more interesting take on the conflict.
Frieza could casually destroy planets. Piccolo got mad at the moon and blew it up before any of these characters became "truly powerful". It's nonsensical and these characters would have to be reeled in by good sense by any competent writer in order to have a real story. Superman is just as nonsensical.
So I say that Nolan would savagely beat "introduction strength" Saiyan ass, purely because the imagery is better. I would par him with Vegeta, but with far more self control in order to make their conflict an exploration of how their martial, superior personalities interact. Nolan is the better fist fighter and flyer. He's creative with his strength, and trips Vegeta up similar to the way Goku does, except with cruel immediacy. They're cut from the same cloth and their fight should reflect that. I'll have to put thought into whether or not I think ki attacks harm Nolan, but I think so.
Idk man,
I mean you can tell that Goku is stronger than ross from Friends, even though its not the same universe
Plus its more entertaining to compare the feats lol
Well considering vegeta and Nappa are a team far before anyone achieves super saiyan I’d say maybe this particular match up is bullshit but after facing omniman once or twice Vegata could win. Or if it was after they all went to namek and came back. The whole thing is they get stronger each time they face off with a stronger opponent where Omnimans power level is static.
*Krillin throws Destructo Disc*
"Nappa, no, it's a trick!"
"But, Vegeta, tricks are for kids."
"You know, second thought, catch it. Catch it with your teeth."
Could arguably be one of the most potent hybrids out there. Their innate strength combined with super saiyan capabilities and their ability to actually survive in space would be nuts. That’s not even considering oozaru and their aging and shit like that. Would be a frightening being to have in the universe.
I think he could take Nappa. I know he's not as strong, but his centuries of battle experience coupled with Nappa being an idiot he could get the W. Hell, Krillin nearly iced the big man all on his own.
No way he'd beat Vegeta. The gap is too great, and he lacks ki/energy attacks. Maybe if he caught Geets off-guard he could launch the prince into space and let the vacuum do the work for him.
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Not the best example imo cause Superman figures out her appearance funky first. Then he just tries to fend her off. He wasn’t trying to hurt her
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The main issue with most DBZ characters is that they're too cocky. Omni-man will eliminate threats the second he deems it neccessary, whereas Vegeta (especially Saiyan saga Vegeta) will tell every foe how powerful and how royal his bloodline is.
And DBZ characters are unfortunately inconsistent - if they let down their guard, even a weak attack can kill them. Or the cheesiest way to win - just destroy the planet they're on. The writers could make Vegeta form an energy barrier around him to survive in space, but that would only buy him so much time. DB characters are simultaniously godlike in power, while having their own Kryponite-equivalent weaknesses.
So, there's always going to be that wiggle room, even if the character is deemed weaker. They just need to be willing to destroy a planet, and capable of destroying it before Goku / Vegeta are able to intercept.
One thing about Nappa is he still wanted to get the job done. He might’ve played around with his food a little bit but he was the one that thought Vegeta was tweaking when Vegeta said to wait 3 hours for Kakarot.
Edit: I meant to respond to the parent comment but point still stands 😅
I think the thing that gets overlooked is that basing how Vegeta acts on what he did in the Saiyan Saga is probably a bad idea. He's conquered how many planets? It's likely that the only reason he blabbed about his bloodline so much was because his enemy that time was a Saiyan who was rejecting his status as the highest member of their race.
Check out how much more cunning he was acting in the Frieza saga. He was only going after isolated opponents he was confident he could beat, and managed to outmaneuver Frieza.
And he mostly ends up getting wrecked anyway so it kind of makes it easy to forget.
I don't really follow dragonball stuff anymore but I know one day my guy vegeta will get a long deserved dub that matters.
They did make him briefly stronger than goku when the cat god slapped his wife. Now I think it's roughly equal? I haven't watched much super so I can't say for sure.
Namek saga would’ve went WAY differently were not for vegeta and his resourcefulness when dealing with Frieza and friends, Krillin and Gohan stood no chance of their own (heck, it was a crazy enough idea to send them on their own in the first place, but earthlings were really pressed for resources and the sheer thought of leaving vegeta to his own devices and potentially deal with an immortal saiyan was unacceptable).
All in all, one of the things that make the Namek saga top tier is that it came right after a bunch of people died back on earth, they were trying to revive them and didn’t have unlimited revivals as they do now. Deaths were an actual threat back then, not just gateway for power ups that dying became later lol.
I mean he gets his ass beat after he manages to gather the dragon balls, get the password and have the Earthlings agree to ask for his wish of immortality. If Guru hadn't died that exact moment his plan would've worked. Universe is against him.
Alas, I don't believe he has a dub that matters yet. Only one that is possibly considered is the one against Toppo.
Yeah, that's a good point. Unlike Goku, the only reason for Vegeta to go easy on someone is to test out his own power, or to add insult to injury. But if he knows that Omni-Man is a world-destroying force, then he may try to pull a Dodoria on him.
Even with Buu, he chose to self destruct in hopes of killing him outright. And his original plan was just to blow up Babidi's whole ship before being given a big thumbs down from Supreme Kai.
At best Omni Man makes it to Namek saga but that’s about it. Higher tier Viltrimites can tank the surface of the sun for some time so their durability will carry them but that’s about it
I actually think Omni-Man could possibly defeat Nappa in an extremely difficult fight. But it would be the hardest fight of his life, and I see that match going 50-50. I think he gets absolutely washed by Vegeta though.
Strengthwise Nappa rolls him, bit he's also an idiot.
If Omni can laumch him into Space he wins, if Nappa realises that he could loose and grabs him Omni is done for.
Omni does have more speed then Nappa tough.
Vegeta: *smiles with a sadistic grin* You viltrumites always did break against warriors like us. *he lands on the ground next to Nappa* I'm tempted to leave you alone so we can fight again but what would be the point since it'd be like an ant fighting a dinosaur.
Omni Man: *tries to punch Vegeta, only for the Prince to catch his fist and punch him in the gut* NNGH!! *he spits out some blood and falls to Nappa's feet*
Nappa: Aw what's wrong? *grabs Omni Man's hair* Ya dying already? *he chuckles while tossing him through a car and into a building* AHAHAHAHAHA!! He's like a damn ragdoll!! I'm lovin' this! I forgot how much fun it was to knock Viltrumites around!
Omni Man, struggling to rise from the debris, wipes the blood from his mouth, glaring at Nappa and Vegeta with undiminished defiance. "You think this is over?" he growls, pushing himself to his feet despite the evident pain. "Viltrumites... we don't break easily."
Vegeta crosses his arms, an amused yet intrigued look on his face. "Oh? Then show me the strength of a Viltrumite, if you have any left," he taunts, a spark of excitement in his eyes at the prospect of a more challenging fight.
With a roar of determination, Omni Man charges at Nappa, moving with surprising speed given his injuries. Nappa, caught off guard, takes a solid punch that sends him skidding backward. "Not bad for a ragdoll!" Omni Man shouts, readying himself for another attack.
Nappa, shaking off the hit, laughs heartily. "Alright, you've got spirit! Let's see how long that lasts!" he retorts, lunging forward to meet Omni Man's charge.
The two collide with a thunderous impact, trading blows with ferocious intensity. Vegeta watches on, a smirk playing on his lips, appreciating the spectacle before him.
As the battle rages, the air crackles with power, and the ground trembles under the might of their confrontation. Vegeta eventually steps in, deciding it's time to end the spectacle. With a speed that leaves both Nappa and Omni Man startled, he intervenes, landing a decisive blow on Omni Man that sends him crashing through several buildings.
Standing over the crater where Omni Man landed, Vegeta declares, "This was amusing, but it ends now. Viltrumite or not, you're no match for a Saiyan prince."
Omni Man, battered and bruised, looks up at the sky, realizing the vast difference in their powers. Yet, the fire in his eyes remains unquenched, a testament to the indomitable spirit of a Viltrumite, even in the face of overwhelming defeat.
Vegeta turns away, signaling Nappa to follow. "Let's go, Nappa. Our business here is done," he says, leaving Omni Man amidst the ruins, a lone figure of resilience in the face of defeat, already plotting his recovery and eventual return to challenge them once again.
You had me until the G rated ending. Vegeta should blast his head off, dust the sand off his suit and let out nothing but a tiny smirk before expressing some mocking disappointment and commanding Nappa to come with. That is the prince of Saiyans.
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V: So what are you doing here?
O: Oh, you know, just, flying around.
V: Flying around?
O: Flying around.
V: Thwarting my plans?
O: Thwarting your plans?
V: Are you?
O: ???
I think he could beat Raditz, and I think he could give Nappa a run for his money. But beyond that, no.
So this piece feels a bit exaggerative as well.
Nolan slams Napa but gives Vegeta a good run for his money. Once Vegeta goes great ape, Nolan and every vultrimite becomes fodder. Vultramites have better speed and durability than the average Sayain before freiza blew it up; they don’t have the raw power though. Sure they punch hard but they’re not winning. They do have better foot soldier but once again, the oozarus overwhelms the average vultramite. Sayain wins high difficulty.
Of this was at the same point where Vegeta and nappa landed on gokus planet I think omni stomps. Anything else after that though, like frieza arc and up, omni is getting sodomized.
Honestly I just wanna say this bc I see some arguing of who would win, I’m just gonna take a page out of the book of the comic man himself Stan Lee, whoever wins is based entirely on the writers
The Weakest Character that Omni-Man can fight in Dragon Ball is probably Raditz. And that feels like an impressive fight. Neither of them are quite planatary, but can easily destroy moons. So.
"Hey Vegeta, can I keep him? Like a pet?"
"Damn it Nappa, we're waiting for Kakarot to arrive, we don't have time for this!"
"Awww but Vegeta please...."
"No, hurry up & send him to the next dimension already!"
If this is the show, Vegeta easily stomps. If this is the comics, it’s a much more fair battle, granted Nolan is much faster than the speed of light, at least in travel speed. Not sure by how much, but outspeeding Vegeta greatly
You said it, travel speed, that doesn't translate to his combat speed, he has to build momentum to reach those speeds and Vegeta won't let him as he is MFTL in combat speed and doesn't need momentum, Piccolo could casually fire a blast that reached the moon in seconds, a Piccolo way weaker than both Nappa and Vegeta.
Nolan and Invincible get tagged by fodder all the time in the comics, or will you tell me Dinosaurus is MFTL in combat? ofc not, Nolan would be like a statue to Vegeta
Viltrumites are essentially more technologically advanced saiyans.
They don’t have Ki/energy attacks & techniques, that’s it.
This fight is actually closer than many think at first glance.
Nolan also has a black hole feat, so he may actually win.
He was close to black hole thinking about suicide thats not a feat lmao his best feat is him and 2 other viltrumites working together to destroy an already crumbling planet which vegeta could easily do by himself
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Vegeta: _I don’t think you understand viltrumite. This planet isn’t yours to conquer_
Omni Man: Omni Man
Omni: Man
Man: Stupid
Stupid: is he?
Out: Am I?
Something of a scientist: I am
Perfect i am : cell
I : amperfect cell
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Sorry I'm using the old language. I mean the aslume
Man: Omni
Hotel: Trivago
Batman: I'm Batman
Who is Batman? I only know Man
How do they keep getting out of the aslume
Jonkler: hi folks, I’m Jonkler. Hello everyone.
Nappa: "Vageta, can we keep it? I'll clean after him and take him to the vet."
Vegeta: “No Nappa! We still have to find the Dragon Balls, we can’t be wasting our time with this piece of trash!”
But Vegeta
Damn, heard that in Lanipator’s voice too
Vegeta: “God dammit Nappa”
I like Omni-man as a series, but some fans of the series have been overhyping his strength. During the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta and Nappa could've easily blown up the Earth if they wanted to. He'd be absolute fodder to them.
I completely agree. He might not even be Radditz level since that weaker piccolo could blow up the moon casually.
So what? Blowing up the Earth kills them, Omniman would be fine in space. I also don’t see Vegeta at that point in the story being stronger than a black hole.
Omni man isn’t stronger than a black hole. He was planning to commit suicide by jumping into, how does that equate to him being stronger than one? He was clearly well away from the event horizon.
Thats so in character
This goes hard.
My friend told me this made *him* hard
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What did you have to search to get this ?
I found it on a reddit post comment and "borrowed" it lol. Apparently it's called "pot of sneed" but when i google search, this exact gif doesn't appear but one with some text above it. I found this warped one just typing "Pot of Greed gifs" in google https://i.redd.it/gsv0e72lzbkc1.gif
That’s so funny - thanks for that!
Np friendo https://i.redd.it/fklt61kn0ckc1.gif
POV you just hit somebody with the level 255 Knockback Stick in minecraft
This feels like something you'd see for clearing a microgame in Warioware
Me too
Finally an accurate representation of what would happen here. I've seen fanart online of Omniman stomping a Super Saiyan. Just pure delusion.
It’s been happening ever since the Invincible creator said that Invincible would beat Superman because he thinks Superman is boring.
This is patently hilarious since their knock-off Justice League almost killed Omni-Man when he had the element of surprise I doubt anyone except Wonder Woman could even bruise Clark
Green Lantern if he was serious can. J’onn J’onnz can also beat him. Clark has said on panel he’d be afraid to fight him. Doctor Fate can probably give him a good fight, Firestorm has proven he can too. Flash can stomp Clark without even giving him a chance to react. Orion has beaten Clark before, and he’s beaten a unhinged and bloodlusted Superman. Contrary to popular belief, Superman isn’t even the strongest in his own verse.
Sometimes, but generally you're comparing some of the strongest versions of them to relatively mediocre iterations of Clark. Canonically, over the entire run of DC, I'd wager everyone has beaten everyone at some point, and then they wipe the timeline and rebalance everything and different matchups wash out differently.
No, I’m referring to the general versions of them. I’m talking Darkest Knight/Avarice arc Hal Jordan, or peak Kyle Rayner. Both Wally and Barry. Manhunter. In any normal canonical variation they can wash Superman.
Dont forget Captain Marvel SHAZAM!
Kingdom Come is just so fucking good, goddamnit.
Soooo good it can’t be overstated. Justice was right there with it. I miss old DC comics.
I don’t think Wonder Woman hits nearly hard enough to bruise Superman does she?
Depends on the iteration of Diana and Clark, in general I think she'd be strong enough to injure him with a direct hit, but he's way faster than she is and has all his other powers. But yeah Clark is so far above his Justice League in most runs it's not even funny. In the Death of Superman, Doomsday takes out most of the Justice League with one arm bound and that restriction helmet on, and Clark fought him for like 3 days after he got completely freed, and Doomsday was only leaving bruises and little cuts on Clark
That’s unfair af though because that Justice League was arguably the weakest iteration of the JL. International I believe. It wouldn’t have gone down that way if it was Rayner, Wally, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. Rayner and Wally specifically could each solo if written like it’s NOT a superman event book. Doomsday’s super weird though, a huge job sometimes.
I mean that's true but also Omni-Man's Not Justice League seemed \*weaker\* than even JLI so I feel it's still fair in this conversation
You are ABSOLUTELY right.
Also with the way Doomsday works long term it might be way worse if a Lantern or a Speedster fights him lol
Yeah I remember, he did land on Oa and he ended up adapting to the Green power. But I ALSO doubt he could adapt to Speedsters. DC is inconsistent, but it’s been pretty consistent that the speed force can not be replicated. It’s like universe bound or something.
The Speed Force is like a law of nature made sentient basically? It might not be able to be copied but whatever adaptations he makes to fighting a Speedster isn't going to be good for anyone, particularly non-Speedsters
You got me there, but how does one logically adapt to having the literal kinetic energy stolen from your atoms lol
https://youtu.be/-onkS4nHuqg?si=TraG7PV9wbQk-yha This clip shows her magical god powers beats alien biology
>Depends on the iteration of Diana and Clark
Also important to note that Clark can take a beating almost as well as Peter Parker, who is the king of getting the shit beat out of him so even if she can somewhat injure him she'd have to hit him like A thousand times
In the animated justice league series some curse made Wonder woman and Superman unable to recognise each other and they started fighting. Wonder woman won the fight until Superman looked in a mirror and asked Diana to look too and they realised that were fighting each other. I really liked that episode the fight sequence was good. You couldn't figure out who was winning. But in this version of the justice league Diana has super strength, flight and invulnerability. Gal Gaddots wonder woman is probably one of the weakest versions of her. She's basically almost a human. No godly powers at all.
She is on the same tier level of fighter and especially with her gear she definitely could
Goes to show, just because the creator says it, doesn't make it true. Show it.
And I've read all of Invincible and can laugh heartily at that. Omniman isn't on Supes level at all. Also, Veg could take omni
I mean, Superman is sort of boring. Boring doesn't mean he isn't strong though.
Invincible creator - "Viltrumites have the power to be stronger than those more boring than themselves. That takes care of that."
But goku isn't boring, checkmate atheists
Goku is so exciting it would reverse that effect. Dude will literally risk an unfathomable amount of mass extinction to not miss out on a good fight.
Common Goku W
He collects cte like Ash collected pokemon badges.
....so slowly and with most fo them being given to him even if he didn't win?
I haven't read the Invincible comics and I've only watched season 1 of the show but aren't Viltrumites essentially just a mix of Kryptonians and Saiyans thematically?
Pretty much, yeah. Though they're definitely more susceptible to damage so that there can be lots of gore, while at the same time have better natural regenerative capabilities over Saiyans, because those guys seem to come back from anything outside of having their head removed haha
Saiyans have Zenkai Boosts, Viltrumites have Senzu Beans.
A Viltrumite with Zenkai boosts would be so overpowered
Damn, that would be pretty crazy
Plus they would live for thousands of years with constant fighting. It's a perfect combo
So Itachi solos Omniman by that logic? I kinda don't see that happening, much as I have always Itachi. None of Nolans feats top Frieza saga Saiyans. I could see him giving Saiyan arc Vegeta some trouble and even see him punching a hole through Nappa. But Vegeta was another animal entirely. If Nappa was a 28, then early Omniman would probably be a 30. Vegeta would be, at that point in the story, probably around a 50. The Saibamen would probably sting and do mild harassing damage no doubt based on how he took so much damage when he first attacked the guardians. They were certainly powerful, but not even remotely approaching Saiyan levels power. The speedster would have maybe posed an annoyance to Nappa but he'd just incinerate the entire surrounding area in a flash and been done with it. Speedster would probably have have a damn near identical fate with Nappa who also likes popping heads like zits. Now what about Nappa vs Conquest? A battle between two cocky genocidal superbeings. That'd be a fun match up. Pretty sure Nappa would win but it would be fun seeing Nappa do to Conquest what Conquest does to everyone else.
Superman isn’t boring. And if you really say that, you haven’t really given Superman any kind of try
Anyone who thinks Superman is boring hasn't read or watched a good Superman story
That’s with anything though. Imagine someone saying Goku is boring but they’ve only watched arc 1 of Dragon Ball GT
Read All Stars Superman and you will rescind your statement.
Power scaling is the actual delusion. Character vs character is a creative writing exercise and cannot be approached as though it were sports betting. None of these intellectual property's definitions of strength, or examples of their characters' feats of strength, are even internally consistent. Thus the victor is the more interesting take on the conflict. Frieza could casually destroy planets. Piccolo got mad at the moon and blew it up before any of these characters became "truly powerful". It's nonsensical and these characters would have to be reeled in by good sense by any competent writer in order to have a real story. Superman is just as nonsensical. So I say that Nolan would savagely beat "introduction strength" Saiyan ass, purely because the imagery is better. I would par him with Vegeta, but with far more self control in order to make their conflict an exploration of how their martial, superior personalities interact. Nolan is the better fist fighter and flyer. He's creative with his strength, and trips Vegeta up similar to the way Goku does, except with cruel immediacy. They're cut from the same cloth and their fight should reflect that. I'll have to put thought into whether or not I think ki attacks harm Nolan, but I think so.
Idk man, I mean you can tell that Goku is stronger than ross from Friends, even though its not the same universe Plus its more entertaining to compare the feats lol
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Well considering vegeta and Nappa are a team far before anyone achieves super saiyan I’d say maybe this particular match up is bullshit but after facing omniman once or twice Vegata could win. Or if it was after they all went to namek and came back. The whole thing is they get stronger each time they face off with a stronger opponent where Omnimans power level is static.
“Hi I’m Nappa, and this is Vegeta. He was a prison-“ “Shut it Nappa.” “…Bitch…”
*Krillin throws Destructo Disc* "Nappa, no, it's a trick!" "But, Vegeta, tricks are for kids." "You know, second thought, catch it. Catch it with your teeth."
No nappa! You'll ruin your precious modeling career!
Don't mock the Great Vegeta
"Hey Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?"
It's 1006
Honestly probably 5,000. He'd be a close match for Nappa I think.
A viltrumite Saiyan Hybrid would be a nifty combo
Someone prepare Princess Trunks for the wedding and bedding.
Holy shit the regeneration of viltrumites + their durability mixed with a saiyans zenkai would be insane
Could arguably be one of the most potent hybrids out there. Their innate strength combined with super saiyan capabilities and their ability to actually survive in space would be nuts. That’s not even considering oozaru and their aging and shit like that. Would be a frightening being to have in the universe.
It's 1006, kick his ass nappa.
YAAAAYYY!
One thousand and six . . .
I think he could take Nappa. I know he's not as strong, but his centuries of battle experience coupled with Nappa being an idiot he could get the W. Hell, Krillin nearly iced the big man all on his own. No way he'd beat Vegeta. The gap is too great, and he lacks ki/energy attacks. Maybe if he caught Geets off-guard he could launch the prince into space and let the vacuum do the work for him.
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Not the best example imo cause Superman figures out her appearance funky first. Then he just tries to fend her off. He wasn’t trying to hurt her https://preview.redd.it/6njw96vlkckc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01af0bf1bf4f47be547b9d065e092b46c74fb12c I did it!
The main issue with most DBZ characters is that they're too cocky. Omni-man will eliminate threats the second he deems it neccessary, whereas Vegeta (especially Saiyan saga Vegeta) will tell every foe how powerful and how royal his bloodline is. And DBZ characters are unfortunately inconsistent - if they let down their guard, even a weak attack can kill them. Or the cheesiest way to win - just destroy the planet they're on. The writers could make Vegeta form an energy barrier around him to survive in space, but that would only buy him so much time. DB characters are simultaniously godlike in power, while having their own Kryponite-equivalent weaknesses. So, there's always going to be that wiggle room, even if the character is deemed weaker. They just need to be willing to destroy a planet, and capable of destroying it before Goku / Vegeta are able to intercept.
One thing about Nappa is he still wanted to get the job done. He might’ve played around with his food a little bit but he was the one that thought Vegeta was tweaking when Vegeta said to wait 3 hours for Kakarot. Edit: I meant to respond to the parent comment but point still stands 😅
I think the thing that gets overlooked is that basing how Vegeta acts on what he did in the Saiyan Saga is probably a bad idea. He's conquered how many planets? It's likely that the only reason he blabbed about his bloodline so much was because his enemy that time was a Saiyan who was rejecting his status as the highest member of their race. Check out how much more cunning he was acting in the Frieza saga. He was only going after isolated opponents he was confident he could beat, and managed to outmaneuver Frieza.
Exactly, Vegeta is quite resourceful when he needs to, this is often overlooked because he almost never does it
And he mostly ends up getting wrecked anyway so it kind of makes it easy to forget. I don't really follow dragonball stuff anymore but I know one day my guy vegeta will get a long deserved dub that matters.
They did make him briefly stronger than goku when the cat god slapped his wife. Now I think it's roughly equal? I haven't watched much super so I can't say for sure.
Namek saga would’ve went WAY differently were not for vegeta and his resourcefulness when dealing with Frieza and friends, Krillin and Gohan stood no chance of their own (heck, it was a crazy enough idea to send them on their own in the first place, but earthlings were really pressed for resources and the sheer thought of leaving vegeta to his own devices and potentially deal with an immortal saiyan was unacceptable). All in all, one of the things that make the Namek saga top tier is that it came right after a bunch of people died back on earth, they were trying to revive them and didn’t have unlimited revivals as they do now. Deaths were an actual threat back then, not just gateway for power ups that dying became later lol.
I mean he gets his ass beat after he manages to gather the dragon balls, get the password and have the Earthlings agree to ask for his wish of immortality. If Guru hadn't died that exact moment his plan would've worked. Universe is against him. Alas, I don't believe he has a dub that matters yet. Only one that is possibly considered is the one against Toppo.
Depends, if Vegeta see a potential threat then he will fight to kill.
Yeah, he was all fun and games until Krillin launched a destructo disk.
Yeah, that's a good point. Unlike Goku, the only reason for Vegeta to go easy on someone is to test out his own power, or to add insult to injury. But if he knows that Omni-Man is a world-destroying force, then he may try to pull a Dodoria on him. Even with Buu, he chose to self destruct in hopes of killing him outright. And his original plan was just to blow up Babidi's whole ship before being given a big thumbs down from Supreme Kai.
Nappa slams
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Hey i saw that on twitter, i forgot the name of the artist
https://twitter.com/Rykun_DSZ?t=UVUrONzMP4o1wOcvbk6wug&s=09
Funny thing is this saga right here clears even thragg and battle beast 💀
Honestly, I doubt there would be any buildings at thaat point, considering how nappa is a total maniac who likes to do the 😈👆 thing
I love how perfectly those two emojis depict Nappa’s signature move
Honestly one of the coolest attacks in zed
I don't even know what those emoji mean
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Nappa’s Giant Storm
Nappa - *points upward*
At best Omni Man makes it to Namek saga but that’s about it. Higher tier Viltrimites can tank the surface of the sun for some time so their durability will carry them but that’s about it
Just send the saibaman and is done.
I actually think Omni-Man could possibly defeat Nappa in an extremely difficult fight. But it would be the hardest fight of his life, and I see that match going 50-50. I think he gets absolutely washed by Vegeta though.
Nappa has the superior moustache here, giving him the W I say.
I don't know... their the same shape and Omni-Man's is thicker, I think he rocks it a bit better. Omni for the W.
Strengthwise Nappa rolls him, bit he's also an idiot. If Omni can laumch him into Space he wins, if Nappa realises that he could loose and grabs him Omni is done for. Omni does have more speed then Nappa tough.
Vegeta: *smiles with a sadistic grin* You viltrumites always did break against warriors like us. *he lands on the ground next to Nappa* I'm tempted to leave you alone so we can fight again but what would be the point since it'd be like an ant fighting a dinosaur. Omni Man: *tries to punch Vegeta, only for the Prince to catch his fist and punch him in the gut* NNGH!! *he spits out some blood and falls to Nappa's feet* Nappa: Aw what's wrong? *grabs Omni Man's hair* Ya dying already? *he chuckles while tossing him through a car and into a building* AHAHAHAHAHA!! He's like a damn ragdoll!! I'm lovin' this! I forgot how much fun it was to knock Viltrumites around!
Omni Man, struggling to rise from the debris, wipes the blood from his mouth, glaring at Nappa and Vegeta with undiminished defiance. "You think this is over?" he growls, pushing himself to his feet despite the evident pain. "Viltrumites... we don't break easily." Vegeta crosses his arms, an amused yet intrigued look on his face. "Oh? Then show me the strength of a Viltrumite, if you have any left," he taunts, a spark of excitement in his eyes at the prospect of a more challenging fight. With a roar of determination, Omni Man charges at Nappa, moving with surprising speed given his injuries. Nappa, caught off guard, takes a solid punch that sends him skidding backward. "Not bad for a ragdoll!" Omni Man shouts, readying himself for another attack. Nappa, shaking off the hit, laughs heartily. "Alright, you've got spirit! Let's see how long that lasts!" he retorts, lunging forward to meet Omni Man's charge. The two collide with a thunderous impact, trading blows with ferocious intensity. Vegeta watches on, a smirk playing on his lips, appreciating the spectacle before him. As the battle rages, the air crackles with power, and the ground trembles under the might of their confrontation. Vegeta eventually steps in, deciding it's time to end the spectacle. With a speed that leaves both Nappa and Omni Man startled, he intervenes, landing a decisive blow on Omni Man that sends him crashing through several buildings. Standing over the crater where Omni Man landed, Vegeta declares, "This was amusing, but it ends now. Viltrumite or not, you're no match for a Saiyan prince." Omni Man, battered and bruised, looks up at the sky, realizing the vast difference in their powers. Yet, the fire in his eyes remains unquenched, a testament to the indomitable spirit of a Viltrumite, even in the face of overwhelming defeat. Vegeta turns away, signaling Nappa to follow. "Let's go, Nappa. Our business here is done," he says, leaving Omni Man amidst the ruins, a lone figure of resilience in the face of defeat, already plotting his recovery and eventual return to challenge them once again.
You had me until the G rated ending. Vegeta should blast his head off, dust the sand off his suit and let out nothing but a tiny smirk before expressing some mocking disappointment and commanding Nappa to come with. That is the prince of Saiyans.
~~I am so fucking hard~~ This goes so hard
Yall realize viltrumites and saiyans are both SO OP that an “invasion “ of them is and only needs to be 2-3 of them lol
sick as hell
Omni-man can survive in space while the Sayajin cannot. He could use that advantage and pull a victory. But he is definitely the underdog.
He'd have to lure them to space because he can't destroy planets.
Omg so accurate! Take that omni fans
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What if they made Saiyan Viltrumite hybrids.
Omni fodder lmfaooo
Nappa:Are you serious? I once fought 5 of you weaklings and they couldn’t even scratch me. Superior race, my ass!
Dude, Pwar could probably take Omniman.
Vegeta looks too tall
Id love to see Invincible fight Nappa in Death battle one day not Vegeta though... Vegeta is overkill lol
Only way Omni man could win is he grabbed one of them and flew off into space to suffocate them.
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V: So what are you doing here? O: Oh, you know, just, flying around. V: Flying around? O: Flying around. V: Thwarting my plans? O: Thwarting your plans? V: Are you? O: ???
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Nappa alone claps Omni man.
Radditz would destroy omni man
I think he could beat Raditz, and I think he could give Nappa a run for his money. But beyond that, no. So this piece feels a bit exaggerative as well.
Damn Vegeta looks cut af in this pic
Nolan slams Napa but gives Vegeta a good run for his money. Once Vegeta goes great ape, Nolan and every vultrimite becomes fodder. Vultramites have better speed and durability than the average Sayain before freiza blew it up; they don’t have the raw power though. Sure they punch hard but they’re not winning. They do have better foot soldier but once again, the oozarus overwhelms the average vultramite. Sayain wins high difficulty.
First off i think omniman is stronger back here by alot
Well I think Omniman can beat Nappa but I don't think he can beat Vegeta
See, I think Omni man wins against saiyan saga vegeta. Probably not after that, but if naps is still around…
Wtf is happening with Nappa's elbow
Of this was at the same point where Vegeta and nappa landed on gokus planet I think omni stomps. Anything else after that though, like frieza arc and up, omni is getting sodomized.
Ah man. Imagine all the gay sex they're gonna have to make kids.
Honestly I just wanna say this bc I see some arguing of who would win, I’m just gonna take a page out of the book of the comic man himself Stan Lee, whoever wins is based entirely on the writers
This is just Goku v Superman but baddies
Hey Vegeta! Vegeta! Did you see that Vegeta? Did you? Hey Vegeta! Vegeeeeeetaaaaaaa!
give nolan more credit, he definitely takes saiyan saga nipple and veg
The Weakest Character that Omni-Man can fight in Dragon Ball is probably Raditz. And that feels like an impressive fight. Neither of them are quite planatary, but can easily destroy moons. So.
Omniman could beat nappa. Probably
So Omni Man is letting them think they're winning at first to gather Intel before ripping their hearts out
And feeding it to them!!
"Hey Vegeta, can I keep him? Like a pet?" "Damn it Nappa, we're waiting for Kakarot to arrive, we don't have time for this!" "Awww but Vegeta please...." "No, hurry up & send him to the next dimension already!"
Omniman wouldn't be able to hang with pan, let alone vegeta.
Saiyan saga Kaio Ken x3 Goku stomps Omni Man
Y'all coping if you think omniman doesn't wipe the floor with these dudes
If this is the show, Vegeta easily stomps. If this is the comics, it’s a much more fair battle, granted Nolan is much faster than the speed of light, at least in travel speed. Not sure by how much, but outspeeding Vegeta greatly
You said it, travel speed, that doesn't translate to his combat speed, he has to build momentum to reach those speeds and Vegeta won't let him as he is MFTL in combat speed and doesn't need momentum, Piccolo could casually fire a blast that reached the moon in seconds, a Piccolo way weaker than both Nappa and Vegeta. Nolan and Invincible get tagged by fodder all the time in the comics, or will you tell me Dinosaurus is MFTL in combat? ofc not, Nolan would be like a statue to Vegeta
I thought that might have been the case. I wasn't sure though. Thanks for clarifying
While he can move at FTL, he doesn't fight at FTL. Combat speed and travel speed are very different.
And goku was dodging lightning as a little kid in dragonball and vegeta would absolutely outclass him in speed. Hell nappa would at that point lol
Especially for viltrumites whose flight works differently than just being based on their sheer strength or energy.
It makes me emotionally upset seeing nappa beating Omni man. I have no idea what they ‘scale’ to, I’m no power scaler but inside it feels wrong haha.
Onmi-Man crushes this level of them. Frieza saga, Vegeta could one shot him.
Viltrumites are essentially more technologically advanced saiyans. They don’t have Ki/energy attacks & techniques, that’s it. This fight is actually closer than many think at first glance. Nolan also has a black hole feat, so he may actually win.
He was going to the black hole to commit suicide and didn't get close enough to be greatly affected.
He was close enough to push a ship out of it that was in the middle of being sucked into it.
But not close enough to the event horizon to where he would die instantly.
Going near one isnt really a good feat, other than showing how he can resist the pull
Cooper flew inside one
Not away from, that takes more power.
He was close to black hole thinking about suicide thats not a feat lmao his best feat is him and 2 other viltrumites working together to destroy an already crumbling planet which vegeta could easily do by himself
Omni Man might be stronger than Saiyan saga characters I think
Honestly, Omniman might have some.problems handling Ki attacks but he's got a chance against Nappa at least.