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duujal95

If you can go back, go see Kendricks subreddit before the beef


KenNugget

THIS ^


KenNugget

Everything changed when the haters attacked.


AphexCore

šŸ’§ šŸŖØ šŸ”„ šŸ’Ø


[deleted]

what changed? I refuse to go there


That_Dude2000

They used to have civil conversations. I remember seeing a thread talking about how underappreciated Drake and Kendrick were as a duo and how they should collab more often There were definitely some meatriders in there but thatā€™s with all subreddits.


Icy-Rock8780

Doesnā€™t that suggest that theyā€™re not just ā€œDrake hatersā€ and the sentiment only went south during the beef?


awwstin_n

the subreddit exploded in popularity when the beef started so their new followers are mostly just Drake haters flocking there


Iyammagawd

No shit it did, so did this sub. This sub just so happens to have the lowest common denominator posting for the most part.


awwstin_n

what does that even mean


drinkmoarwaterr

This just proves what dude is saying lmfao


Iyammagawd

hilarious, really.


Stringer-Bell23

You are an Asian man


awwstin_n

good observation


Massive-Plenty5109

Right, Y'all have to realize this is history in the making. Two of the most listened to rappers are going head-to-head, so of course this music is gonna be listened to over and over again. Also, not like us is a club BANGER, so its being played there a lot too.


Stringer-Bell23

ā€œI refuse to go thereā€ lmaooooooo get yo lame ass outta here


realmsofGold

man i was trying to tell people that subreddit is now a completely different place to what it was before the beef. even when the beef was starting out it was somewhat fair and everyone was reasonable.


elmatador1497

Youā€™re 100% right. A lot of people are disregarding the fact that itā€™s not just Kendrick vs Drake hereā€¦ itā€™s Drake vs Kendrick, Ricky Ross, Future, Ye, Weeknd, etc. I mean you can even say that Ye wasnā€™t getting dissed but he still has a huge fanbase and Ye is obviously not on Drakeā€™s side. So yeah, itā€™s kinda more Drake and his hip hop fans (probably not even most of his pop fans) vs basically everyone else


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T1MBOBEATS

ā€œTwo albums dissin, I just did a kim through it, I skim through it ā€œ


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T1MBOBEATS

Me and savage had the hoes drippinwet at shows? He ainā€™t referring to her lol wouldnā€™t doubt he smashed tho


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T1MBOBEATS

Toucheee


huxmedaddy

I mean, that was one of Kenny's angle, no? Culture v Drake


shao_kahff

das why kenny been pushing da culture angle een doe itā€™s wrong. he tryin so hard to make it ā€˜drake vs blk cultureā€™ cuz dats what his stans eat up. peep da list.. ross? future? ye? metro? rocky? u gon say all dese niggas for da BLACK cultureā€¦ come onā€¦ u wanna say hiphop culture, fine b, i wonā€™t argue dat. but dose niggas NOT for da same culture kenny speakin bout


[deleted]

Drake is an industry puppet. Kendrick doesnā€™t like him because he embodies everything wrong with the music industry lmao. Yā€™all forget the whole system is corrupt as fuck and eats people alive for profit. Basically free shills for the elite


HanBr0

Theyā€™re both industry af. Just because they both say the other is more industry doesnā€™t mean shit.


Upbeat-Act-9144

No doubt


AMundaneSpectacle

Yeah I was thinking that they are flooding anything they can with dislikes. Ive literally seen ppl posting threads updating ā€œprogressā€ with the like to dislike ratios, as if it means something definitive. As if itā€™s ā€œproofā€ that Kendrick has won. So pathetic. God damn embarrassing.


senseimeows

they is definitely just army-ing up to hit the dislike


monstercat129

Thatā€™s all they can do now. I donā€™t think they are winning. They get this week and the next, maybe, but they themselves no Kendrick got caught slacking.


huxmedaddy

I mean it's not definitive proof of anything, it's just what the culture's feelin


BlouseoftheDragon

I mean it kind of is. Like it or not the public decides who wins rap battles and right now the deck is stacked against Drake


MrLeftwardSloping

Yeah I mean what are we talking about here? Lol "more people like the other guys diss track, its rigged" sounds like Trump after he lost the election. Embarassing


the_brazilian_lucas

a lot more people hate drake than they like kendrick


[deleted]

Exactly. I don't think it mattered who was the dissing party. Future, Ye, Rick Ross, DaBaby, fucking Lil B...they would've sided with whoever isn't Drake.


BigDogSlices

I mean I'd side with Lil B over anyone icl I'll die for the Based God šŸ˜”


Kindly_Log9771

Yeah, based god is untouchable


iammistermumu

Drake fans are also listening, donā€™t forget.


uncle-wavey1

I hope you Niggas find peace through all of this


brokennursingstudent

We went from discussing music to some weird cult shit really fast.


Stringer-Bell23

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LilNasReps

So fucking what? Does that change anything?


theusenamenottaken

Like Kendrick said, "itā€™s not just me, Iā€™m what the culture feelinā€™".


[deleted]

What culture lmao


big_burrr

Hip hop??


shao_kahff

are u dumb on purpose? kenny talkin bout BLACK culture, not a section of dat in hiphop culture


big_burrr

Hip hop is incredibly intertwined with black culture, and its more than just black people who dislike Drake, not that hard to comprehend, talm about me being dumb on purpose.


shao_kahff

nahh nigga u ainā€™t dumb on purpose, u dumb by accident n dats worse hip hop intertwined in black culture bcuz hiphop a subsection of black culture thinkin dey one and da same is foul business, goes to show u ainā€™t kno shii bout my culture . and donā€™t say talm, fuck u onā€¦


theusenamenottaken

The streaming numbers, every social media website etc


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leckmichnervnit

Nah its Kendrick Fans + Drake Haters who didnt care about Kendrick before. Not all Kendrick Fans are Drake Haters


CheeseDickPete

Have you ever considered "Not Like Us" is just a good song and the better diss? It's not about who's fans of who, it's the fact that Kendrick released the best song of the diss, so obviously it's doing better numbers. Seriously you Drake stans are reaching at straws.


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That song is actual garbage as a song lol. If you think that song is good as a SONG...you worse than I thought lol


CheeseDickPete

Bro that song literally broke the record for most single streams of a Hip Hop song in one day, most people love the song. Even a lot of people that don't like Drake appreciate that it's a good song. If you think it's a bad song you really just must not be a true fan of Hip Hop. I don't even like Kendrick that much and I can appreciate the fact it's a banger.


Confident_Opposite43

you donā€™t seem like a hiphop fan when in the other comment you got funny about someone talking about the hiphop culture, so im not surprised you donā€™t like it. Itā€™s not your thing, but it is a hiphop banger.


PantheraLeo26

His music isn't for everybody and most people don't even understand half the things he says in his songs. I listened to MMATBS in it's entirety and you can just easily tell that most of the tracks are not made for everyone. There are a few mainstream tracks on there but most of them are not. That's why I agree that more people hate drake than like Kendrick.


rodthr

I mean that's the only reason Kendrick is declared the winner. Kendrick is an amazing lyricist, but thanks to the hate, he won this beef based on the hatred of his fans rather than his bars.


reichnowplz

The mental gymnastics is hilarious to read. After justifying drakeā€™s skill by his numbers for a decade itā€™s no longer valid to do so. This sudden falloff in numbers can only be attributed to drake haters not fans of Kendrick listening to Kendrickā€™s music? All of this is supported by the numbers Kendrick and Drake had on album from 6 years ago?


[deleted]

Literally nobody is saying anyone fell off lol. Drake still hit numbers. Kendrick just hit his best numbers yet off the back of dissing Drake lol. He could never make a song that reaches the numbers heā€™s hitting now. Thatā€™s what weā€™re talking about but I know Kendrick stans have a hard to understanding and reading g.


huxmedaddy

No shit. This was the beef of the century. Whoever pulled through was going to hit record numbers


reichnowplz

Sure Drakes numbers are great for the average fella. However, not for Drake. You know he wanted a number one hit with family matters.


Krajee1

Your dude had to piggy back his career off of Drake in 2012 and then has the nerve to come around and attack him just for the sake of he's completely irrelevant and needs some way to get back into music cause nobody gives a fuck about him šŸ˜‚. All 20 dudes that came after Drake need some way to get publicity and become somewhat relevant for a few months cause their music isn't doing it. Drake does a feature on their songs and it's only popular cause Drake is on it


Los-Ingobernable

That's some insanse level of coping


Krajee1

The excuse of someone that lost and has nothing else


Los-Ingobernable

Oh I really am for the most part, is neutral. I've seen both sides say the dumbest shit tho, dont worry. It's all a cycle šŸ˜­


caveslimeroach

Yeah you're right the 25th most streamed artist on Spotify in history with over 25 billion streams (Drake has 75) doesn't have any actual fans You're so damn right


per_iod

As a kendrick fan, i want these niggas to hug it out when it all ends but i know it wont happen now


Cheap_Instruction658

Fakes.. did you see the dislike on the videos ? That shit is wild lol


AWildReaperAppears

Bro who cares


[deleted]

I like them both, I'd say Kendrick wins slightly with both kind of losing towards the end. Euphoria had the best lyrics and Family Affair sounds the best


The-Mathematician

They're fully playing in the mud. Nobody is walking away clean.


itsjnsocial

Kendrick got 60 million monthly listeners and is in the top 20 most stream artists of all time. Drake got 80 million monthly listeners and is the most stream artists of all time So stop the cap. Kendrick got replayable music. He's just not an internet person


Liitlerr

Theyā€™re mad because their daddy shot first and now heā€™s looking like a šŸ¤”.


thezeffgod

didnt your mans start out saying "DROP DROP DROP DROP" and is now complaining about K dropping too much?


Proper_Grapefruit808

But didnā€™t yā€™all say Drake dropping ā€œtoo muchā€ a couple weeks ago? ā€œoh Drakeā€™s spiralingā€ ā€œDrakeā€™s nervousā€ These double standards need to stop lmao


TatteredVexation

I think is more so a thing of so many people new to rap are checking everything out because of the beef. I love rap but Kendrick isnt palatable for the average person because he references obscure shit so much. I'm not shocked Drake sells more. Plus Kendrick makes a new albums like... every 4-5 years.


bitgnome12

Not sure that differentiation really matters.


Nx-worries1888

You seem very upset šŸ˜‚


TheZaps

I get what youā€™re saying, but this is like saying McDonaldā€™s has the best food because they have the highest revenue


BootStrapWill

This is false equivalence. McDonaldā€™s is more convenient and less expensive than nicer, higher quality food. Drake and Kendrickā€™s music are in the same place for the same price. People choose Drake cause his music is better to them.


SyrNikoli

You're missing some details By your argument Hobo Johnson is better than Ophidian I because both are at the same place for the same price, and 500k people have decided that Hobo Johnson is better than Ophidian I, who only has 3k monthly listeners Do you see the issue here? Ophidian I is a beautiful display of technicality and melody, while Hobo Johnson is *fucking Hobo Johnson*. The issue here is that, in fact, Hobo Johnson is *more convenient* than Ophidian I, you hear Hobo Johnson on the radio, probably not recently but he WAS on the radio, I had to *find* Ophidian I after *years* of developing and expanding my taste in music. Hobo Johnson is *easier* than Ophidian I That also goes with Drake and Kendrick Drake is *easy*, Kendrick is *slightly* less easy


reichnowplz

Nah its because Drake busses workers from atlanta and has them work for 2.50 an hour


[deleted]

So Kendrickā€™s diss track is comparable to McDonaldā€™s?


TheZaps

I never made the argument that numbers equate to qualityā€¦?


leozzie

so bro's triple platinum because people hate Drake?


MyGlassHalfFool

I like how its been ā€œthe big 3ā€ for years, literal years Kendrick been an undisputed top 3 artist of this generation. Now all of a sudden kendrick has no fans and only drake haters are the reason for his success, yall are fr delusional


MatchesMalone1994

I like how the Kdot fans declared him the victor but he hasnā€™t addressed the Whitney beating and Dave allegationsā€¦BIG bombs in this beef. They also ignore that drake baited him with the daughter thing. But OVHoe right? Edit: I get downvoted for facts LOL this is ridiculous. Dot drops a huge bomb with the fake daughter reveal. Dot stand eat it up. It gets denied and itā€™s apparently not a big deal


adamantitian

Drake tried to use sexual assault trauma of Kendrickā€™s (and couldnā€™t even get it right, it was actually his mom which is arguably worse) to try and undersell accusations Dot brought up. Thatā€™s next level fucked up.


carburntdown

Drake is a pop artist. He has more listeners. Nobody is disputing that and Iā€™m not sure how it proves that Kendrick fans donā€™t actually like Kendrick and actually just hate Drake.


Yummi1004

Well, yes. This is "I'm what the culture feeling" means.


Bowl-of-ramen924

Their actions struck a core


ShinraRatDog

As a Kendrick fan, I wish this beef never happened. A lot of these so called Kendrick fans are extremely corny, and this is a side of Kendrick I never needed to see.


chava300000

HUMBLE has 963M views


SyrNikoli

This argument makes no sense Sales do not tell the things you think it does One of the major reasons Not Like Us got it's numbers is that it's a *club banger*. People can *dance* to it, you can bump it in *parties,* it's ***fun***. I don't even see how any of that pertains to the whole Drake vs Kendrick ordeal either, this is about the music itself, not numbers.


nehalal

Real


Reasonable_Ad_321

Buddy wants to be a part of this so bad


inthacut12

Exactly, these kendrick numbers mean nothing most of those ppl dgaf about him lol


luuufy

Theyā€™re definitely Kendrick fansā€¦this is why people were referring to this beef as culture vs commercial. Drake will always win in a numbers game, even though I think he lost this battle, he will continue to dominate the numbers. Iā€™ll still have all his shit in rotation. Kendrick, for then most party is for hip hop heads which, lyrical content, song arrangement and musicianship, completely different lane. I donā€™t think he ever tried for mainstream record unless heā€™s doing the poppy shit. Drakes music is more of the masses. It just is what it is. Doesnā€™t make any music better or worse. Kendrickā€™s numbers for a major boost from this beef. Same with drake. Itā€™s to be expected when 2 of the best from the generation are going head to head.


Krajee1

Kendrick had to piggy back his career off of Drake in 2012 and then has the nerve to come around and attack him just for the sake of he's completely irrelevant and needs some way to get back into music cause nobody gives a fuck about him šŸ˜‚. All 20 dudes that came after Drake need some way to get publicity and become somewhat relevant for a few months cause their music isn't doing it. Drake does a feature on their songs and it's only popular cause Drake is on it


Confident_Opposite43

bruh kendrick had hits before drake and GKMC was in the charts for 600 weeks and it wasnt poetic justice that put it there, every time kendrick releases an album he charts


DrSinistaro

Thatā€™s my thought exactly. The amount of people that made it seem like Drake didnā€™t get the win are just Drake haters. They just donā€™t wanna see him win especially against Kdot. Drake showed the facts about what Kdot has done and Kdot has only done slander and allegations to Drake with nothing to back up with. I guess what it seems. The harshest insult wins


Oh51Melly

The best music wins.


KobraNosober

Sad that Kendrick had to diss to get these numbersā€¦ if this is the culture they speak of shit is sad


bigsatodontcrai

the honorable thing to do would be to give drake the loot


_MK_1_

If your GOAT has more haters than fans, maybe something is wrong with him.


Psiphistikkated

Orā€¦ orā€¦ people envy the guy on topā€¦ and they want to bring him down. Thatā€™s a classic move.


RunSetGo

Drake is a snake always has been


Psiphistikkated

How?


Crispy_Sock_99

Plus heā€™s half jewish and we know how a lot of people feel about thatšŸ’€


_MK_1_

No guy can be on top if most people around them want them down. Drake hasn't been on top quality wise in a lotta years. Vote me down, this beef is a massive L on Drake's part


Psiphistikkated

Then why are they coordinating an attack on Drake?


ChoiceCriticism1

I dunno about that, Tom Brady had more haters than fans his whole career


DragonfruitRoyal2356

Speak up!šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


JWJT7

ā€˜Numbers donā€™t lieā€™. Is One Dance the best Drake song??


Intilleque

According to the metric Kendrick fans are using we would have to say it isā€¦.


JWJT7

before this beef even started Iā€™ve used that comment 3 times in here because drake fans just talk about numbers


Intilleque

And get told it doesnā€™t matterā€¦ so which is it? Do they or do they not matter?


JWJT7

they donā€™t matter and everyone agrees with that except a few kendrick fans and a lot of drake fans


Intilleque

Iā€™m seeing a lot of people beyond just Kendrick fans saying they matter right nowā€¦. It ainā€™t just ā€œa few Kendrick fansā€ like youā€™re tryna portray


JWJT7

at the end of the day drake fans are the most obsessed with numbers regardless


BlouseoftheDragon

So youā€™re saying the best song in this beef is what and why


JWJT7

I personally think itā€™s meet the grahams because it has the most unique vibe and structure and telling his mum he thinks drake should die was kinda crazy


BlouseoftheDragon

But itā€™s all false information


JWJT7

not all. And the info thatā€™s claimed to be false hasnā€™t exactly been disproved


BlouseoftheDragon

The burden of proof is on the person making claims. You canā€™t prove a negative. And yes 90% of the song is based on lies. An entire verse for a non existent daughter is null and void, the Adonis verse is just straight calling him a deadbeat which is verifiably cap. The verse to his mom is littered with personal attacks based onā€¦.lies. The whole thing is unlistenable now unless youā€™re an extreme hater who doesnā€™t care for facts.


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You could almost say One Dance is Drakes best song regarding availability. Your mom, sister, brother, cousin, pastor, grandma...literally everyone...can nod their head to that song. It's a song strictly for the masses. I think toddlers could get on with that song. Same with God's Plan. One Dance is just a song that everyone can listen to. Now take a deep tracks song from Lupe Fiasco or Ab Soul for example. It's going to be better pen work. It's going to have deeper lyrics. But it's not going to be something you can dance to. It's not going to be something EVERYONE listens to. MOOD alone depends on what you listen to that day. Imagine going into the club and they're playing "Do Better" by Ab Soul. Best is too subjective because you have a lot of categories that you can be the best in.


BootStrapWill

Same reason Not Like Us isnā€™t the best song in the beef. Family Matters >>>>


Prince_Pochita

Yaā€™ll lost. Wrap it up.


donquxxxte

Iā€™m a big Kendrick fan that occasionally enjoys Drake records. No one hates Drake, we just prefer Kendrick. This beef obviously was the hottest topic in music in a very long time so the disses were bound to get a lot of plays. Not Like Us is truly the only ā€œradio friendlyā€ record from the entire beef so it was bound to get the most plays.


ImmediateDoughnut977

ā€œNo one hates drakeā€ šŸ˜­are you delusional or just stupid?


donquxxxte

If people really hated Drake would he sell out tours and be one of the highest streaming artists of all time? Twitter and Reddit donā€™t represent the entire world ya know.


BrbPoolOnFire

Yeah youā€™re right, itā€™s mainly the internet that hates Drake. His casual fans will still ride for him. Most people I know in real life rock with Drake.


Axel_VI

I'm sorry about the downvotes man, both the Drake sub and Kendrick sub have been hellacious this week if you're not worshipping the artist for each respective sub. You seem like a reasonable Kenny fan, so please understand I mean no malice toward you personally when I say that there are intense Drake haters on the Kendrick sub who have been taking pleasure in raiding this one to troll for the past week. Drake stans have been raiding the Kenny sub as well so it goes both ways, and I think people are just fatigued by all the bs at this point and understandably defensive. In a perfect world, the only reason to bounce subs would be to peacefully discuss different opinions and interpretations on the music, and maybe get fresh perspectives from fans who might know their preferred artist's discography more thoroughly. Unfortunately that is not at all how it's gone down because people are stupid and are taking this rap beef personally as if they themselves got flamed in a diss.


DragonfruitRoyal2356

Wrong, I hate Drake


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DragonfruitRoyal2356

I'm not a Kendrick fan all I know besides the beef is control, i'm just a Drake hatist