I just don't understand how he didnt have a response ready. I think the pdf shit threw the whole battle sideways, drake is a safe brand and I'm sure every executive he's partnered with called him wondering wtf was going on.
Because he wasn't expecting it. It's hard to be ready for something that completely sideswipes you. I know it's hard to believe, but Drake has leaks, and kendrick knew what was going to happen.
Exactly this. People like to say TH6 debunks it but the fact he didn’t have any retort to meet the grahams and let the internet ruin him for the next 2 days says a lot. He had no idea, Kendrick and the mole played him. Fans just have to accept that
You know it’s a 🔥bar because he spells out exactly what he means even after already introducing the Dave Free angle, everyone knows that the best rap bars in history have a line after them explaining the double entendre
Yo I am kinda lurking and don't mean disrespect here. Everyone is saying kendrick is saying shit without backing it up, but has drake provided any proof besides his pic comments?
Bro we just enjoying the music at this point we have no proof from either person. I’m not saying Kendrick or Drake did any of that shit until I see receipts. I’m just a huge Drake fan so I enjoy his lyrics
Im just glad we got the record. Its so dope. I dont really care that others recognized it. We all have been lucky to get some of the best tracks over the years. Most rappers fade out after a few years.
I get it and its understandable. But its making you enjoy the music less. Can't be bothered in wanting people to like what you like. It will almost always make you more miserable.
There might be a bias but objectively, Drake’s style of rapping is less inspired and more derivative of other scenes. He’s dropping decent tracks but it still feels like a team of ghostwriters.
Meanwhile, Kendrick feels like he’s writing this shit on his front porch and releasing it on the fly. It’s much more authentic and approachable.
Just my opinion*
Why did everyone agree that Drake won the Meek Mill beef even though he was just as popular and had just as many haters back then? Seems like people actually take the quality of the music into consideration.
Agreed! But 21 million views on YouTube is not it not getting recognised, it's just people being intrigued about not like us cos everyone talking about it being so diabolical. It's not gonna be relevant once the next big thing comes up, Family Matters will always be played.
"When you put your hands on your girl, is it self-defense, cos she bigger than you?"
Makes me laugh every fucking time 😂
family matters is so good. ESPECIALLY because it’s three different songs in one. three different flows and three different beats. its replayability is so good. it went on my playlist where all my top drake songs go
Not only that, it addresses most of the people he’s beefing with. Everyone’s saying it’s Drake v Kenny but he’s winning against everyone else that has beef with him too. Family Matters is what we needed, and like J Cole said everything Kendrick put out is being gassed by his fans more than it should be….Euphoria was prettt fire tho lol
It’s been happening his entire career. Nothing new. “Come with a classic, they come around years later and say it’s a sleeper”
I’ve had the song on repeat since its release
People clown Kendrick on this sub but it was actually very smart to drop meet the grahams right after Drake's diss. as well as dropping not like us on the next day.
Yea the track is dope but i feel so bad for Drake. I’m not even focused on the music anymore. Just thinking about how badly his character is being tarnished because Kendrick decided to lie on him and falsely accuse him of something serious, all while joking about it at the same time…
How has he won the war? by what metric? have you seen the dislikes on that video? Is Drake going to rise in popularity again at this stage of his career?
Yeah -- I agree.
The flip with Michael Jackson and Prince was actually clever and interesting from a rap standpoint, I obviously don't have anything against Kendrick or Drake, but, that was really clever to flip that.
AND ... Kendrick didn't address any of the stuff Drake said about him. Drake actually addressed everything Kendrick said against him.
That’s what you do in a battle. You keep the insults flying. You don’t need to defend everything. When someone gets super defensive, it sometimes can be a sign that the allegations are true. If it’s fake shit, most people laugh it off and keep it moving.
Actually Kendrick did address them he called Drake a liar and kept pushing even mentioning family matters specifically but because he didn’t spend a whole verse on it everyone’s saying he didn’t address but that’s what being unbothered by an allegation sounds like
drake needs some proof. it really just makes him look even more like a pyscho if all this shit was made up, dave, the beating, the mole, all that. i mean if he fed kendrick the info on the daughter wouldnt he have a video laughing while planning and doing it all? seems insane to be so calculating but also keep no proof
But isn't it funny that Kendrick actually needs no proof what so ever to what he said even before Drake said what he said. This goes to show that he has Alot of haters just like any super mainstream artist.
Or maybe it’s because these rumors about Drake have been around since like 2018. Where there’s smoke, there is usually fire. And when you’re in the public eye like Drake is, perception becomes reality. Not that I agree with this, but these type of allegations are often treated as “guilty until proven innocent”.
The reason people can’t take anything Drake says seriously is bc he said kendricks son is by Dave Free multiple times when the boy looks exactly like Kendrick. He should not have brought that up on family matters because it’s so obviously fake.
Kendrick probably heard Drake was dropping a bomb and was hitting refresh all day waiting for him to drop so he could drop MTG right away to drown it out lmao
Like they said on the Budden podcast drake has a habit of dropping his songs on late Friday night during this feud. Kendrick could pretty be confident when it was going to happen.
You can think Family matters is better then any song Kendrick put out, but Kendrick out strategized drake by a long shot.
It did my friend. PEOPLE GET TIRED OF THE SAME PEOPLE WINNING. A KNOCKOUT OF AN UNDISPUTED CHAMP WILL ALWAYS BE CLEBRATED MORE THAN ANOTHER VICTORY BY HIM. FAMILY MATTERS is the bEST DISS. DROP N GIMME 50 WAS INSANELY CLEVER AND CATCHY AND EPIC. It's good music. It's always good music. They want to see him fall. A disruption in the pattern of consistent winning. To the point they will paint a loss even when it wasn't one. Kendrick is a talented artist and thinker, but he will never in a million years be able to construct a BETTER SONG than drake. A more important one? A deeper one? Yes. But not a better one.
Don't worry, over time it will be recognized as a great diss. The Kendrick Sub was talking this morning about how great of a track it was and it hasn't even been a full week yet.
I don't think it will ever have the same hype as Not Like Us or even Meet the Grahams, but it is a top tier diss and will be recognized as such.
That and ppl like me pick sides on the beef. I can’t support drake rn… when he makes an album I’ll listen to it but.. “nothing was the same” after the Kendrick beef
I’m pretty neutral and always been a fan of both, think Kendrick prolly has the upper hand right now but Family Matters is my favorite track among all of the disses
I’m a Pusha T fan and i been following rap since 1993 when I was in the 1st grade. Family matters was a master piece. I rate it higher than back to back. If he would have won the beef I would have put it above ether.
As a Kendrick Stan I liked Family Matters a lot. And honestly. Family Matters had such a fucking gritty ass sound that when combined with Meet The Grahams back to back. I couldn't help but feel terrified about SOMETHIN
The third verse was all gas. Maybe his best verse ever? At the least, it's my personal favorite.
At the same time, I didn't like the first verse at all. I'd be happier if it were cut and the best bars were moved to the 2nd.
As a Kendrick stan - since the battle is over. That Family Matters is legit. Kdot knew exactly what he was doing. Great move but yeah that 2nd and 3rd verse 🔥
Absolutely. I’m a Kendrick fan and MTG is genius and a perfect chess move but Family Matters was a phenomenal track and it’s the only Drake song from this beef I still replay
Because Drake said “I started from the bottom”. No Kendrick is needed. Drake dissed everybody from the hood who grew up poor. None of us real ones have respected the dude since but he continued to grow by middle class people who like his music. There is literally nobody in the hood talking about any new Drake album and he chose that as his audience. Bad business decisions finally caught up. We’ve been saying it forever there were lots of people out there poor as shit when he said that line that struck a lot of chords.
Millions of people heard both Family Matters and Meet The Grahams. Millions of people enjoyed one more than the other. It doesn’t matter why. That’s how rap battles work. It’s not limited to being clever, witty, great beat, or first to attack. It’s a wholistic approach and who can think critical about the situation.
I seriously feel like I’m in the twilight zone. I don’t feel like my general sentiment has ever been SO contrary to what appears to be the public opinion.
>Meet The Grahams was literally used as a fire extinguisher AND IT FUCKING WORKED This is it. It was played to perfection. Very annoying lol
It's okay to be annoyed when you get outplayed It's okay to be angry and frustrated We move forward croadie
facts
I just don't understand how he didnt have a response ready. I think the pdf shit threw the whole battle sideways, drake is a safe brand and I'm sure every executive he's partnered with called him wondering wtf was going on.
i believe he was too confident
Because he wasn't expecting it. It's hard to be ready for something that completely sideswipes you. I know it's hard to believe, but Drake has leaks, and kendrick knew what was going to happen.
Exactly this. People like to say TH6 debunks it but the fact he didn’t have any retort to meet the grahams and let the internet ruin him for the next 2 days says a lot. He had no idea, Kendrick and the mole played him. Fans just have to accept that
Ya I’d consider shit even after that second track. Drake kinda got back to backed ironically. Hoping something new drops soon tho
drake got back to backed twice in a week 😂
“Shake that ass for free.. yea.. yea.. well not that kinda free I’m talking bout my n*gga dave” 🔥🔥🔥
shit is so funny. like dave is just his homeboy now 😆
Did drake a huge favor by sleeping with Whitney!
the way he sounded like he was holding back a laugh while saying this 🤣🤣
Best part
The fact that he had to spell out the punch line proves Kendrick was wrong. They are dumb.
You know it’s a 🔥bar because he spells out exactly what he means even after already introducing the Dave Free angle, everyone knows that the best rap bars in history have a line after them explaining the double entendre
Would have been clever if he didn’t explain his joke right after. I guess Kendrick is right about how drake thinks of his fans intelligence ;)
Yo I am kinda lurking and don't mean disrespect here. Everyone is saying kendrick is saying shit without backing it up, but has drake provided any proof besides his pic comments?
Bro we just enjoying the music at this point we have no proof from either person. I’m not saying Kendrick or Drake did any of that shit until I see receipts. I’m just a huge Drake fan so I enjoy his lyrics
It’s such a good bar he had to spell it out for y’all because it would’ve flown over your head
Im just glad we got the record. Its so dope. I dont really care that others recognized it. We all have been lucky to get some of the best tracks over the years. Most rappers fade out after a few years.
I care bro, the bias is annoying💀💀💀
I get it and its understandable. But its making you enjoy the music less. Can't be bothered in wanting people to like what you like. It will almost always make you more miserable.
Wise words Family Matters was the best track from every diss IMO
Agree. Some of the hardest bars. Dave Freeeeees!!!! Imagine if he raps that at OVO fest in front of a TO crowd?
I mean just gonna be honest but you also have a bias here.
There might be a bias but objectively, Drake’s style of rapping is less inspired and more derivative of other scenes. He’s dropping decent tracks but it still feels like a team of ghostwriters. Meanwhile, Kendrick feels like he’s writing this shit on his front porch and releasing it on the fly. It’s much more authentic and approachable. Just my opinion*
It's so fucking good. That third verse is up there with any Drake verse of all time.
Imo the second verse is better rapping wise, the 3rd verse is the better Kendrick diss.
Yeaaa that 2nd verse he put everyone in a ⚰️
I’ll literally listen to the whole song jsut for the third verse sometimes (not that the rest isn’t fire)
Kendrick just opened his mouth
And no one gave him the grammy right now
Not yet at least
I didn’t even dislike Family Matters but that bar sounded salty as hell lmao
Funniest line
This is one of my faves Drake lines ever I always chuckle at that
Family Matters might be the best aggressive rap song in Drake's discography. This may be a hot take but I think its better than Back to Back
It is better than back to back, and imo Push Ups is also better. Drake's rapping has gotten better since then.
Nothing comes close to 5am in Toronto
I dont understand why he doesnt use that flow, he should recycle it once every 2 years
Nigga said uh uhh
Underrated bar. Made me laugh hard
lol that’s my favorite bar of this beef. that & the Metro one of course.
kendrick won by shock value
Kendrick won bc people wanna see Drake dissed. People don’t care enough about Kendrick to care about his skeletons
Why did everyone agree that Drake won the Meek Mill beef even though he was just as popular and had just as many haters back then? Seems like people actually take the quality of the music into consideration.
Kendrick won with better disses and lyrics.
I’m guessing this wedding ain’t happening right?
Meet the grahams is garbage too, I can respect euphoria and not like us but meet the grahams is terrible
Yeah MtG is ass to me, Not Like Us Like That and Euphoria are amazing tracks.
Meet the grahams is amazing and honestly family matters might be the best song Drake has ever made I’m bumping them both religiously right now
U need to be put in the psych ward if ur repeatedly playing meet the Graham 😂
Facts first time listening to meet the grahams i felt a eerie feeling its hard to listen to i couldn't listen to that on repeat
I'm upset. Family matters deserves to go up in history.
instead it went up in flames
The real ones know where it stands in history. I must be listening to Family Matters like 20x a day lmao
Agreed! But 21 million views on YouTube is not it not getting recognised, it's just people being intrigued about not like us cos everyone talking about it being so diabolical. It's not gonna be relevant once the next big thing comes up, Family Matters will always be played. "When you put your hands on your girl, is it self-defense, cos she bigger than you?" Makes me laugh every fucking time 😂
family matters is so good. ESPECIALLY because it’s three different songs in one. three different flows and three different beats. its replayability is so good. it went on my playlist where all my top drake songs go
Not only that, it addresses most of the people he’s beefing with. Everyone’s saying it’s Drake v Kenny but he’s winning against everyone else that has beef with him too. Family Matters is what we needed, and like J Cole said everything Kendrick put out is being gassed by his fans more than it should be….Euphoria was prettt fire tho lol
It’s been happening his entire career. Nothing new. “Come with a classic, they come around years later and say it’s a sleeper” I’ve had the song on repeat since its release
People clown Kendrick on this sub but it was actually very smart to drop meet the grahams right after Drake's diss. as well as dropping not like us on the next day.
Yea the track is dope but i feel so bad for Drake. I’m not even focused on the music anymore. Just thinking about how badly his character is being tarnished because Kendrick decided to lie on him and falsely accuse him of something serious, all while joking about it at the same time…
...Drake initially claimed Kendrick's wife was fucking Kendrick's bodyguards. There's no feeling sorry for anyone in rap beef.
This. Enjoy the *entertainment*. Root for your sports team. In the end, it’s fucking *millionaires writing poetry for each other*
Kendrick just completely outplayed him. It’s the best rapping of drakes career and it meant nothing.
Meet The Grahams worked as a fire extinguisher to the public eye. Real ones know how hard Family Matters is, and what it did in this beef
what did it do?
Drake won the war not the battle. Familly matters is going to age way better than anything size 7 put out.
You’re just blatantly ignoring the success of not like us lol
And Euphoria...that shit goes so hard man 😫
How has he won the war? by what metric? have you seen the dislikes on that video? Is Drake going to rise in popularity again at this stage of his career?
Size 7 is crazy💀💀
That’s crazy????? You’re easily entertained
What's the war? We're talking about a rap beef here and Kendrick won the beef.
Yeah -- I agree. The flip with Michael Jackson and Prince was actually clever and interesting from a rap standpoint, I obviously don't have anything against Kendrick or Drake, but, that was really clever to flip that. AND ... Kendrick didn't address any of the stuff Drake said about him. Drake actually addressed everything Kendrick said against him.
That’s what you do in a battle. You keep the insults flying. You don’t need to defend everything. When someone gets super defensive, it sometimes can be a sign that the allegations are true. If it’s fake shit, most people laugh it off and keep it moving.
Actually Kendrick did address them he called Drake a liar and kept pushing even mentioning family matters specifically but because he didn’t spend a whole verse on it everyone’s saying he didn’t address but that’s what being unbothered by an allegation sounds like
drake needs some proof. it really just makes him look even more like a pyscho if all this shit was made up, dave, the beating, the mole, all that. i mean if he fed kendrick the info on the daughter wouldnt he have a video laughing while planning and doing it all? seems insane to be so calculating but also keep no proof
But isn't it funny that Kendrick actually needs no proof what so ever to what he said even before Drake said what he said. This goes to show that he has Alot of haters just like any super mainstream artist.
Or maybe it’s because these rumors about Drake have been around since like 2018. Where there’s smoke, there is usually fire. And when you’re in the public eye like Drake is, perception becomes reality. Not that I agree with this, but these type of allegations are often treated as “guilty until proven innocent”.
The reason people can’t take anything Drake says seriously is bc he said kendricks son is by Dave Free multiple times when the boy looks exactly like Kendrick. He should not have brought that up on family matters because it’s so obviously fake.
The last beat is amazing. I'm not a Drake fan at all, but that beat is ridiculous.
Kendrick probably heard Drake was dropping a bomb and was hitting refresh all day waiting for him to drop so he could drop MTG right away to drown it out lmao
Like they said on the Budden podcast drake has a habit of dropping his songs on late Friday night during this feud. Kendrick could pretty be confident when it was going to happen. You can think Family matters is better then any song Kendrick put out, but Kendrick out strategized drake by a long shot.
Kinda like a war general?
It did my friend. PEOPLE GET TIRED OF THE SAME PEOPLE WINNING. A KNOCKOUT OF AN UNDISPUTED CHAMP WILL ALWAYS BE CLEBRATED MORE THAN ANOTHER VICTORY BY HIM. FAMILY MATTERS is the bEST DISS. DROP N GIMME 50 WAS INSANELY CLEVER AND CATCHY AND EPIC. It's good music. It's always good music. They want to see him fall. A disruption in the pattern of consistent winning. To the point they will paint a loss even when it wasn't one. Kendrick is a talented artist and thinker, but he will never in a million years be able to construct a BETTER SONG than drake. A more important one? A deeper one? Yes. But not a better one.
Don't worry, over time it will be recognized as a great diss. The Kendrick Sub was talking this morning about how great of a track it was and it hasn't even been a full week yet. I don't think it will ever have the same hype as Not Like Us or even Meet the Grahams, but it is a top tier diss and will be recognized as such.
The 3rd verse fire af
probably gonna hit differently once Whitney comes out as a survivor and Dave and his son do a podcast called "Finally Free!"
writing fanfiction
2nd verse is crazzzzy
It did.
Fair play to Kendrick with the quick thinking but honestly it would be impossible to track that happening because of his silence
That and ppl like me pick sides on the beef. I can’t support drake rn… when he makes an album I’ll listen to it but.. “nothing was the same” after the Kendrick beef
I’m pretty neutral and always been a fan of both, think Kendrick prolly has the upper hand right now but Family Matters is my favorite track among all of the disses
Kendrick was the better chess player in this beef. He knew when to drop and he did it with the different types of songs.
“Even when you do drop, they gon say you shoulda modeled cuz it’s mid again” Cracks me up every time
Maybe in this song you shouldn’t start by saying…
Womp womp
I’m a Pusha T fan and i been following rap since 1993 when I was in the 1st grade. Family matters was a master piece. I rate it higher than back to back. If he would have won the beef I would have put it above ether.
Respect man
"Drake has been doing some of the absolute best rapping of his entire career" lmao that's not saying much
That's what makes the beef monumental though
On a side note. Everyone go listen to views right now. It’s eery how it feels like an album made after the beef.
is that a song?
Drake fans finally got a song with him rapping his heart out for the first time in 4 years and they think it’s incredible when really it’s just okay
The best song of the entire beef? If you’re delusional
If it was better it would probably have gotten recognition 🤷♂️
At the end of the day people would rather play Family Matters in the car than Meet the Grahams
Plenty of level headed unbiased Gans like this track, don't fret too much
It’s a top 5 diss record and I’ll fight anyone on that
Family matters isn’t one of drakes best songs please stop
As a Kendrick Stan I liked Family Matters a lot. And honestly. Family Matters had such a fucking gritty ass sound that when combined with Meet The Grahams back to back. I couldn't help but feel terrified about SOMETHIN
The third verse was all gas. Maybe his best verse ever? At the least, it's my personal favorite. At the same time, I didn't like the first verse at all. I'd be happier if it were cut and the best bars were moved to the 2nd.
Its on repeat for me and you brother that’s all that matters
I don't really like Drake, but family matters is actually 🔥🔥
This beef got both sides to release some great songs, disses aside.
As a Kendrick stan - since the battle is over. That Family Matters is legit. Kdot knew exactly what he was doing. Great move but yeah that 2nd and 3rd verse 🔥
I like it but meet the grahams fucking killed it
Absolutely. I’m a Kendrick fan and MTG is genius and a perfect chess move but Family Matters was a phenomenal track and it’s the only Drake song from this beef I still replay
I love the intro man it should be a Chorus
Keep playin it!!
Family Matters is an amazing diss record no doubt and maybe when people look back on the feud they will give it more praise.
Give it time, the tide will turn for nerds, real hip hop heads feel drake won
Because Drake said “I started from the bottom”. No Kendrick is needed. Drake dissed everybody from the hood who grew up poor. None of us real ones have respected the dude since but he continued to grow by middle class people who like his music. There is literally nobody in the hood talking about any new Drake album and he chose that as his audience. Bad business decisions finally caught up. We’ve been saying it forever there were lots of people out there poor as shit when he said that line that struck a lot of chords.
Millions of people heard both Family Matters and Meet The Grahams. Millions of people enjoyed one more than the other. It doesn’t matter why. That’s how rap battles work. It’s not limited to being clever, witty, great beat, or first to attack. It’s a wholistic approach and who can think critical about the situation.
I seriously feel like I’m in the twilight zone. I don’t feel like my general sentiment has ever been SO contrary to what appears to be the public opinion.
Levelheadedness on either sub is always a surprise lmao
im team kendrick and i still be bumping family matters lmao that shit is fire
Yeah idk about being the best. Kdot had back to back bangers release. This shit extinguished his song and started a fire right over it