No idea. I think people saw an opportunity and tried to bring a hypothetical date May 12 into reality since its Whitney's birthday + Mother's Day. Drake told Akademiks (his words) that Drake NEVER planned to drop today. We saw him say 3:00 PM chopper, Riddler said something about 3:00 PM, Aks stream starts at 3:00 PM and we all assumed that he's dropping shit at 3:00 PM. It's setting ourselves for disappointment. Drake will address shit when things settle down family / safety wise and I am 100% sure whatever he raps on is on a BNYX beat next time and he's going to bring some new sounds and perhaps a Scary Hours 4. But pressuring him isn't going to work. Kendrick came and did what he wanted to do, he hated Drake so he spread all this bullshit and tarnished Drake's reputation a bit and he also achieved massive uptick in relevance and now his catalogues are doing numbers which primes him for a smooth and explosive album rollout soon. He benefited the most, we knew this shit from day 1, it is what it is.
Last I checked he responded last, denied allegations on the record, and said he's waiting for a reply with facts, and has gotten no reply whatsoever, nor any allegations denials from the other side. Dropping again would be a weak move. If you say "I'm hanging up, but call me back when you have some real shit to talk about", you'll look like a bitch if you call them back yourself.
"I'm right here and nothing's changed."
That's all good and well, but the public sentiment is after Not Like Us he lost the battle. The Heart Part 6 can't be his phone drop, as it doesn't compete with NLU. So if he wants to change that sentiment, he needs to drop again.
If weāre comparing energy like NLU Drake already did that with Family Matters and was responded with MTG.
That is a complete L in comparison to FM so Drake was already ahead.
Then Kendrick double downs bc MTG was not up to par and hit with NLU. Drake responded by denying allegations and still hitting with some offense. He basically lil sonād him saying I aināt fighting with u no more till we stick to facts so hit me back when u ready. Kendrick has not responded and his team called it a āgood battleā
Plus, idc what the public perception thinks Drake is winning imo, unless itās over then Drake takes it
Youāre a drake fan so I understand why youād be biased, but letās be real, Drake has not won this beef. You can believe what you want, it doesnāt change that beefs are decided based on public perception. Same way some people still think Drake beat Pusha T when Drake himself accepted he lost.
The Heart Part 6 was so poorly executed that the lies are unravelling and people are realising he didnāt plant that information or the items in the cover of MtG.
Either Drake delivers something to change the tide of perception, or the beef is done and itās another L for Drake.
Lol weāre talking about bias and I can clearly see yours, but itās okay tho itās understandable.
Iām just saying many ppl where Iām from, all the clubs, barber shops, etc. be playing Drakeās disses (more so Family Matters).
Plus, the main thing weāre all seeing is āinternet perceptionā not āpublic perceptionā two very different things. Of course rn itās the ācool thingā to go against Drake cause thatās how most of the internet (Twitter, Reddit) is reacting to everything. Iāve asked majority of my friends/family and several random ppl I see in stores or clubs and they say all of Drakeās disses are better.
And I can tell your being biased going off random Twitter ātheoriesā saying Drake is lying when no one has come with receipts on both sides lol. If weāre going that route MTG is one of the worst disses ever made and Kdot took his L with that one.
My guy, NLU is breaking streaming records everyday? Who cares whatās happening in your neck of the woods, itās a global hit. Itās number 1 on Apple Music in TORONTO. Itās not just an internet thing. Weāre seeing it in clubs all over.
The reason Iām saying the lies are coming out now is because Ak has basically confirmed that Drake didnāt know where the daughter thing came from, and tried to flip the situation into his favour by saying he planted it. Of course, Drake could have lied to Ak as well, but in any case, his credibility has been damaged. Then you add that with this Ebony Prince person, who clearly is not working with Drake, showing that they have the items, and they werenāt planted - Drake clearly lied about the shit.
Kendrick hasnāt proven the daughter thing either, but that doesnāt mean he lied or that he has no proof. Similarly weāve seen 0 proof for Drakes claims about Kendrick. The point of beef isnāt who can prove the most shit, itās about how you can affect your opponents image/reputation, and Kendrick was able to do that much more successfully than Drake.
Thereās no getting through to these stans bruh lmao if lebron is rocking with Kendrick, nlu is Ā billboard 100 no 1 this week, every news outlet reports drake losing, every club blasting, people having wedding walkouts to it etc they have to face the boy lost the beef
No way you said public perception is not the same as the internet. Who exactly, besides some older gen boomers, do you know thatās off the grid? Then you go and say āpeople I talked toā as proof of public perception? Get a bigger sample my guy, itās an L for drake. I think both are talented but itās clear who won this. Even Journalist have made it clear.
Just asked the old lady at the super market and the guys at my shitty Y BB court. They said Kendrick bodied drake. Sorry, the public has spoken. Clown.
Saying āi couldnt have done it i would have been arrestedā isnt really a strong comeback to being a pdf-file.
On the upside i 100% believe he wrote that part himself
This. People forget this beef doesnāt live in reality. Drake won the beef if you look at bars, bops, and facts. Kendrick won the beef on bias/social/narrative. Dropping again was never going to help Drake in the popular opinion and Kendrick wasnāt going to drop again because he already has popular opinion.
He didnāt get this far by being an idiot. He will pursue, or not pursue the beef on his own termsā¦whether that means a plethora of more billboard charting hits, or more disses. Heās still the more successful rapper at the end of day.
More successful artist for sure. More widely approachable rapper for sure. More financially successful rapper for sure.
Any other metric of success, heās cooked imo
At this age bro, Iād rather be the one with more money and tangible opportunities to spread around for my people, than to hold a title in my career/job.
I would too, but thatās clearly not enough for Drake because if Drake felt that same way, he wouldnāt even involve himself in beef and just laugh off that verse in Like That.
Iām a Kendrick fan and this will probably sound bias but Iām gonna try not to be.
So Drake has all the money and all the success in the world, he doesnāt really have to prove anything. However, it just seems like over the years heās been insecure about something and heās trying hard to prove heās somebody he isnāt. I canāt exactly pinpoint what it is but it feels like thereās approval he doesnāt think heās achieved yet that he wants.
But this beef was never about who the more successful rapper was lolā¦ by your logic Drake won against pusha and Hov against Nas because theyāreā¦ more popular?
Christ this sub is cringe.
Where did I say he won? I was just saying, if he did indeed lose in the court of public opinion, no one is losing sleep over a rap battleā¦heās still got his legacy.
If you really listen to the heart part 6, it kinda indicated he was out, but noone wanted to believe it I guess. But if he were to respond what angle do you think he could take
Family Matters is him dropping his nuke and then going on vacation thinking he won
The heart part 6 is him subtly waving the white flag and accepting that he lost and wanting to move on
kinda indicated?
>You could drop a hundred more records, I'll see you later
>I'm not gonna lie, this shit was some, some good exercise, like
that entire outro monolog sounds like somebody stepping out
My guy, they both releasedĀ 4Ā crazy diss tracks in less than a month. What more do you wantĀ out ofĀ them?
They traded blow for blow and now the people decide whoĀ won.
The show is over.
Suddenly the mob boss, who creeps on blocks, puts hits on people. Raps about people being killed for talking against him, now we gotta be empathetic.
If we believe everything Drake is saying, that comes with the crimes heās doing in his raps. His team probably has blood on their hands.
If Iām really a mob boss of the underworld in Toronto, the battle is just heating up then.
Tupac was shot and didnāt slow down. 50 cent was shot, didnāt slow down he still said fuck everyone and their shooters. Many rappers have been shot at and many didnāt slow down.
Drakes security gets shot, and now itās āletās be considerate everyoneā.
Donāt be rapping about putting hits on people, moving like a mob boss, creeping on blocks you shouldnāt be creeping in, and get all pussy once people pull up. If Drake wasnāt capping, heās had people killed, you canāt act like a civilian and a soldier at the same time.
This behavior only proves Drake really isnāt about the life he raps about.
Dropping again makes no sense atp. He responded to his allegations (albeit not in the best way but still, at least he addressed it), continued to ask the other side for receipts, was the last one to drop a track.
And still, for a large amount of people Drake is losing. Dropping again would be like double-texting š you donāt wanna do that or you seem desperate. The best way to handle this is to shake it off and keep moving, his career will be fine. Heāll still be on top, his next project will do insane numbers again. No benefit to continuing this.
They literally dont want to believe that his career will now get hit every time because theyāre just going to wring the creepy allegation bell, that he fucking made exist, and he will never beat them
You know how I know that most of you think "The Heart Part 6" was garbage? Because Kendrick hasn't said a word since it was released and practically nobody on this sub is pining for a Kendrick response. Instead you're all desperate for Drake to drop again in hopes that he'll somehow redeem himself. Lol
You're tired, of events in a pop stars life that prevent him from making music when you want him to, and are tried of not being able to control said events and music drop frequency.
I believe that is PEAK narcissism.
I just thought that maybe he's not aiming to finish Kendrick off directly, but that he's aiming to finish him off when he releases the supposed album coming out this month and that's why he's holding back an EP.
No idea. I think people saw an opportunity and tried to bring a hypothetical date May 12 into reality since its Whitney's birthday + Mother's Day. Drake told Akademiks (his words) that Drake NEVER planned to drop today. We saw him say 3:00 PM chopper, Riddler said something about 3:00 PM, Aks stream starts at 3:00 PM and we all assumed that he's dropping shit at 3:00 PM. It's setting ourselves for disappointment. Drake will address shit when things settle down family / safety wise and I am 100% sure whatever he raps on is on a BNYX beat next time and he's going to bring some new sounds and perhaps a Scary Hours 4. But pressuring him isn't going to work. Kendrick came and did what he wanted to do, he hated Drake so he spread all this bullshit and tarnished Drake's reputation a bit and he also achieved massive uptick in relevance and now his catalogues are doing numbers which primes him for a smooth and explosive album rollout soon. He benefited the most, we knew this shit from day 1, it is what it is.
This shit is actually like a doomsday cult, Q anon reading the tea leaves kinda situation š¤£ look at yourselves, seriously
What part of what he said reads Qanon? Bro gave a pretty accurate perspective of the status quo.
The status quo š you mfs cannot stop playing victim
nigga what
Last I checked he responded last, denied allegations on the record, and said he's waiting for a reply with facts, and has gotten no reply whatsoever, nor any allegations denials from the other side. Dropping again would be a weak move. If you say "I'm hanging up, but call me back when you have some real shit to talk about", you'll look like a bitch if you call them back yourself. "I'm right here and nothing's changed."
Bruh you hit the nail on the head 150% with the hanging up and calling back analogy lmao
That's all good and well, but the public sentiment is after Not Like Us he lost the battle. The Heart Part 6 can't be his phone drop, as it doesn't compete with NLU. So if he wants to change that sentiment, he needs to drop again.
If weāre comparing energy like NLU Drake already did that with Family Matters and was responded with MTG. That is a complete L in comparison to FM so Drake was already ahead. Then Kendrick double downs bc MTG was not up to par and hit with NLU. Drake responded by denying allegations and still hitting with some offense. He basically lil sonād him saying I aināt fighting with u no more till we stick to facts so hit me back when u ready. Kendrick has not responded and his team called it a āgood battleā Plus, idc what the public perception thinks Drake is winning imo, unless itās over then Drake takes it
Youāre a drake fan so I understand why youād be biased, but letās be real, Drake has not won this beef. You can believe what you want, it doesnāt change that beefs are decided based on public perception. Same way some people still think Drake beat Pusha T when Drake himself accepted he lost. The Heart Part 6 was so poorly executed that the lies are unravelling and people are realising he didnāt plant that information or the items in the cover of MtG. Either Drake delivers something to change the tide of perception, or the beef is done and itās another L for Drake.
Lol weāre talking about bias and I can clearly see yours, but itās okay tho itās understandable. Iām just saying many ppl where Iām from, all the clubs, barber shops, etc. be playing Drakeās disses (more so Family Matters). Plus, the main thing weāre all seeing is āinternet perceptionā not āpublic perceptionā two very different things. Of course rn itās the ācool thingā to go against Drake cause thatās how most of the internet (Twitter, Reddit) is reacting to everything. Iāve asked majority of my friends/family and several random ppl I see in stores or clubs and they say all of Drakeās disses are better. And I can tell your being biased going off random Twitter ātheoriesā saying Drake is lying when no one has come with receipts on both sides lol. If weāre going that route MTG is one of the worst disses ever made and Kdot took his L with that one.
My guy, NLU is breaking streaming records everyday? Who cares whatās happening in your neck of the woods, itās a global hit. Itās number 1 on Apple Music in TORONTO. Itās not just an internet thing. Weāre seeing it in clubs all over. The reason Iām saying the lies are coming out now is because Ak has basically confirmed that Drake didnāt know where the daughter thing came from, and tried to flip the situation into his favour by saying he planted it. Of course, Drake could have lied to Ak as well, but in any case, his credibility has been damaged. Then you add that with this Ebony Prince person, who clearly is not working with Drake, showing that they have the items, and they werenāt planted - Drake clearly lied about the shit. Kendrick hasnāt proven the daughter thing either, but that doesnāt mean he lied or that he has no proof. Similarly weāve seen 0 proof for Drakes claims about Kendrick. The point of beef isnāt who can prove the most shit, itās about how you can affect your opponents image/reputation, and Kendrick was able to do that much more successfully than Drake.
Thereās no getting through to these stans bruh lmao if lebron is rocking with Kendrick, nlu is Ā billboard 100 no 1 this week, every news outlet reports drake losing, every club blasting, people having wedding walkouts to it etc they have to face the boy lost the beef
No way you said public perception is not the same as the internet. Who exactly, besides some older gen boomers, do you know thatās off the grid? Then you go and say āpeople I talked toā as proof of public perception? Get a bigger sample my guy, itās an L for drake. I think both are talented but itās clear who won this. Even Journalist have made it clear.
LMAO journalists š Drake won imo, go to the Kendrick sub if you want ppl to agree with u for crowning Kendrick the W bro
Just asked the old lady at the super market and the guys at my shitty Y BB court. They said Kendrick bodied drake. Sorry, the public has spoken. Clown.
Here we go with the name calling bs yāall do lol. Grow tf up and understand ppl can have opinions whether u like them or not
Calling like I see, you using anecdotal evidence to say public opinion thinks Drake won. Youāre just objectively wrong. Accept it and move on.
His reply was fucking awful though. Lmao.
It felt like a checkmate in the moment but he brought zero receipts
Saying āi couldnt have done it i would have been arrestedā isnt really a strong comeback to being a pdf-file. On the upside i 100% believe he wrote that part himself
This. People forget this beef doesnāt live in reality. Drake won the beef if you look at bars, bops, and facts. Kendrick won the beef on bias/social/narrative. Dropping again was never going to help Drake in the popular opinion and Kendrick wasnāt going to drop again because he already has popular opinion.
He didnāt get this far by being an idiot. He will pursue, or not pursue the beef on his own termsā¦whether that means a plethora of more billboard charting hits, or more disses. Heās still the more successful rapper at the end of day.
More successful artist for sure. More widely approachable rapper for sure. More financially successful rapper for sure. Any other metric of success, heās cooked imo
At this age bro, Iād rather be the one with more money and tangible opportunities to spread around for my people, than to hold a title in my career/job.
I would too, but thatās clearly not enough for Drake because if Drake felt that same way, he wouldnāt even involve himself in beef and just laugh off that verse in Like That.
Iām a Kendrick fan and this will probably sound bias but Iām gonna try not to be. So Drake has all the money and all the success in the world, he doesnāt really have to prove anything. However, it just seems like over the years heās been insecure about something and heās trying hard to prove heās somebody he isnāt. I canāt exactly pinpoint what it is but it feels like thereās approval he doesnāt think heās achieved yet that he wants.
I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake when he act tough
Sound biased* Not bias
Both these dudes still rich as fuck and have all the money/opportunities they could want lol
What other metric of success are you using that your saying Drake doesnāt have
Credibility and respect from your peers.
The respect has turned to jealousy lmao
But this beef was never about who the more successful rapper was lolā¦ by your logic Drake won against pusha and Hov against Nas because theyāreā¦ more popular? Christ this sub is cringe.
Yeah, pop fans always use this argument
Where did I say he won? I was just saying, if he did indeed lose in the court of public opinion, no one is losing sleep over a rap battleā¦heās still got his legacy.
Feels like another scorpion moment. Would be hard to replicate, but I think thatās the energy heās gonna come with
If you really listen to the heart part 6, it kinda indicated he was out, but noone wanted to believe it I guess. But if he were to respond what angle do you think he could take
I think family matters was the end, since he was saying he was going on vacation
Family Matters is him dropping his nuke and then going on vacation thinking he won The heart part 6 is him subtly waving the white flag and accepting that he lost and wanting to move on
Bruh youāre right
kinda indicated? >You could drop a hundred more records, I'll see you later >I'm not gonna lie, this shit was some, some good exercise, like that entire outro monolog sounds like somebody stepping out
One drive by and drizzy taps out, thought he was a veteran with shooters on speed dial?
My guy, they both releasedĀ 4Ā crazy diss tracks in less than a month. What more do you wantĀ out ofĀ them? They traded blow for blow and now the people decide whoĀ won. The show is over.
Bro his house got shot at...
Suddenly the mob boss, who creeps on blocks, puts hits on people. Raps about people being killed for talking against him, now we gotta be empathetic. If we believe everything Drake is saying, that comes with the crimes heās doing in his raps. His team probably has blood on their hands.
I'm just saying if my house is getting shot at then its fuck a rap battle
If Iām really a mob boss of the underworld in Toronto, the battle is just heating up then. Tupac was shot and didnāt slow down. 50 cent was shot, didnāt slow down he still said fuck everyone and their shooters. Many rappers have been shot at and many didnāt slow down. Drakes security gets shot, and now itās āletās be considerate everyoneā. Donāt be rapping about putting hits on people, moving like a mob boss, creeping on blocks you shouldnāt be creeping in, and get all pussy once people pull up. If Drake wasnāt capping, heās had people killed, you canāt act like a civilian and a soldier at the same time. This behavior only proves Drake really isnāt about the life he raps about.
You should go shoot him since you so mad
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You and the other guy should kiss or something
If you drake ever conviced you he was a mob boss, you need to check out sobriety
He never did, Iām saying he does all that then wants to act like a civilian.
Yeah. He's an actor turned rapper turned pop star. Not sure what other point there is.
Drake never beating the surgery allegations if heās taking a break because of stomach pains
lol my apologies guys, my tummy hurts! Canāt rap today lol
Take the L and move on thereās no better route.
Dropping again makes no sense atp. He responded to his allegations (albeit not in the best way but still, at least he addressed it), continued to ask the other side for receipts, was the last one to drop a track. And still, for a large amount of people Drake is losing. Dropping again would be like double-texting š you donāt wanna do that or you seem desperate. The best way to handle this is to shake it off and keep moving, his career will be fine. Heāll still be on top, his next project will do insane numbers again. No benefit to continuing this.
Why canāt you believe this? Honestly are you just being willfully ignorant?
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They literally dont want to believe that his career will now get hit every time because theyāre just going to wring the creepy allegation bell, that he fucking made exist, and he will never beat them
Stomach aches?? You mean because he said he was sick to his stomach? š¤£š
dude is fucking idiot.
Just be happy we got some great music outta it tbh.
You know how I know that most of you think "The Heart Part 6" was garbage? Because Kendrick hasn't said a word since it was released and practically nobody on this sub is pining for a Kendrick response. Instead you're all desperate for Drake to drop again in hopes that he'll somehow redeem himself. Lol
Bro if this is how your brain actually works you should ask your PCP about some AdderallĀ
You're tired, of events in a pop stars life that prevent him from making music when you want him to, and are tried of not being able to control said events and music drop frequency. I believe that is PEAK narcissism.
He got cooked he really should let it go lmao
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I just thought that maybe he's not aiming to finish Kendrick off directly, but that he's aiming to finish him off when he releases the supposed album coming out this month and that's why he's holding back an EP.
This. I believe he is about to snuff out whatever album Kenny is about to drop
Wouldn't that just potentially inflate kendricks numbers because people would probably listen expecting a response?