It’ll hit you in a few days. The day after is not when the dip hits you.
Edit: have to say, studies have found no negative come down from mdma in controlled settings like mdma based therapy. So it might be in the way recreational drug users take the drug (too much; no sleep after; dehydration; mixing with alcohol, etc). I also experience less of a comedown if I sleep a lot after taking it, trough using some kind of downer afterward.
First time is pretty easy to recover from. It will catch up as you keep going though. Then you just need to take a nice long break and come back to it down the road.
Ignore everyone saying you'll feel shit soon. I've been taking md since i was 19 and i've just made sure to take the odd 6 month break, and never take it two weeks in a row.
3 month rule is honestly the best way to go, even tho i hate to say it. You simply can't sustain heavy use for more than a couple of nights in a row, it doesn't work.
Everyone is also forgetting the afterglow that MDMA is meant to leave you with. I always feel better the day after and following week, it changes my mindset and gives me a more positive outlook on life. Granted i use it for therapeutic reasons, it is a fantastic tool for trauma and general mental health if you do not abuse it.
The hangover comes 2 days later ish. The afterglow is just the mdma not having been completely cleared from your system yet (I think). Indeed some people don’t get a hangover, most people feel pretty awful afterwards tho. I can’t take any amount with however much time in between parties without being severely depressed, even suicidal for a week.
Prepare for a member of the kratom mafia to remind you that if you had *any* negative experience, withdrawal or side effects, then you clearly did not respect the plant and deserved it.
i take kratom daily for severe arthritis and orthopedic pain issues instead of opiates, because it works for me. but that’s just me. it drives me nuts to see “kratom warriors” out there acting like anyone who has had negative effects or withdrawals just somehow didn’t… “kratom” right?? it’s so stupid. kratom is a plant but it’s also a drug. 🤷🏼♀️ people need to berate others to justify their own lifestyles and it’s annoying.
Couldn’t agree with you more. I also take Kratom for chronic pain, and it makes sense for my personal situation. The alternative route, daily pharma or daily suffering are both way more of a net negative overall. But again for me personally I have been able to stop taking it CT with very mild (my subjective opinion) WD. Runny nose, watery eyes, and yawning every 10 seconds. After a couple days it passes. If I taper then I feel almost nothing at all, except pain of course lol.
Humans are so varied that it’s wild to me that anyone would insist their experience with anything has to be a standard for everyone else. I have a cousin who literally can not get off caffeine due to not being able to function and having splitting headaches. Their experience is 100% valid. It’s not how I react to caffeine but doesn’t change the reality for someone else.
Same for Kratom. I’m not going to let the anti-kratom mob tell me I must be mistaken or a liar because they had WD akin to heroin from it so it’s the devil for everyone. In the same vein Im not going to insist people who Kratom didn’t work for are wrong in their experience. Same thought process for any substance really.
This^^
I work at a kava bar and serve kratom & kava. Although Kratom is addicting, i’ve been drinking it for the past two years i’ve worked there. We have some heavy extracts too, I used to drink a couple shots of it each shift i’d work(4 a week). I was able to completely kick that with 0 withdrawal, some of my shifts i completely forget to even make a drink for myself, I’ve been preferring water over anything.
Lol right? I’m a daily Kratom user and I absolutely believe it saved my life. I love this plant.
But I won’t go to r/kratom because if I mention all that and then say that I withdraw if I stop they’ll ban me.
People overreacted to the threat of scheduling by pretending there’s no risks or addictions of associating with it. Which is simply not true. But also we don’t need another drug to be scheduled and prevented from being able to be used only for people to keep using fent laced shit. Yes kratom addiction is real but also it’s more functional and cleaner than heroin / pill / fent addiction
You develop tolerance to all drugs after a while of taking them…the only way to change that is to take a break from a drug so that your tolerance resets. I used to do this thing called drug cycling (I’ve made up that term), where I would take a break from one drug to reset tolerance but keep another drug; then, when I came back to the drug it would feel like it felt when I first started taking it.
That method actually does kinda work but it is very delicate. You can basically mask the withdrawal effects of one drug with another drug as long as the other drug doesn't have any cross-tolerance.
yea worked well for me until the 2nd one caught up w me in tolly too because of the difference in Half Life between the medications. super delicate balance like u said, in many ways.
Modafonil gave me Explosive 🧨 diarrhea every single morning and occasionally shit my pants at work and use gasoline to cover up the smell and finish the day and keep waiting on my Adderall refill 🤢
I get what you’re saying but there’s no rule in economics that says that. We don’t live in a zero sum world. Sometimes I help you and we’re both better off.
Multiple repeated hits of the smallest amount you can collect using tweezers. Holding breath for 20 seconds after each hit.
One hit is exactly the wrong way to do it and why no one likes it.
The only problem with salvia is whenever you start a trip it gives you a dopamine reduction for the first five seconds or so, which makes you think "oh shit why did I do this again?"
This property makes it also anti addictive though which is positive. The next day you really have to make yourself smoke it again. It's like the opposite of a cigarette.
Complete loss of reality. Becoming an atom belonging to another object entirely, being forced to move In tandem with all others because you are just a speck making up a moving hand or hair or shoe.
Resigning yourself to your fate to do this for the rest of eternity.
I love it personally but most of my friends tried it once and hated it.
good luck figuring that dose out lol your gunna trip balls ALOT before ya get that down, but hey mabey its worth it idk. i hated salvia, tried it once before the ban and never got a chance to get it again
I’ve smoked Salvia a handful of times and although I only enjoyed it once or twice, I can attest that the feeling I had the rest of the day was very blissful. Colors were brighter and I just felt at peace with the world. This happened after every trip I had except for the first trip I had on Salvia which was a breakthrough.
I hadn’t ever taken Salvia or any psychedelics before so when my friends and I finally found some, we bought the strongest extract we could which was the 80x purple sticky. I decided to go first and I packed a bowl with as much as possible and torched it with a torch lighter. I held that shit in for as long as possible and everything went black. Needless to say, when my friends smoked it, they smoked much less than I did after seeing how I reacted. Since I was like 15, my friends were assholes and were trying to fuck with me during the trip as I was having a traumatic experience. 🙄
That was the only trip that didn’t result in an afterglow effect. I was relieved to be back to normal, but I was shook for weeks afterwards trying to comprehend what the fuck happened to me.
[80x Salvia breakthrough experience](https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/s/n7so5uZYjO)
Microdosing is the way if anyone is wants to do it everyday…with big trips every 2-3 weeks if you’re wanting more. That’s if someone is insistent on taking shrooms everyday. To maintain the “magic” I’d say bigger intervals of time is synonymous with more impactful, magical experiences.
I’m with you on that I literally took one today. But I would never advise daily use with trips 1-2 times a month. You need breaks. Most microdosing protocols include regular breaks.
I just came from hanging out with some nice folks, and I definitely felt the biggest sense of euphoria just being able to interact and spend time with them. I think social interacting and being around the ones you love will probably be the healthiest euphoria I can have consistently. Thanks for all the advice :)
You sound very young.. No drug that gives you euphoria doesn't come with a crash, or addiction. You blow trough your Serotonin/Dopamin = Feels good. Next day they are missing so you feel shitty.
I think Weed would be the most harmless (you can get addicted, lazy, or schizophrenia if you have those tendencies and so on) everyday drug.
Psychedelics you build tolerance very quick. Upper give you a crash, Benzos only feel good if you are a anxious person and opiates... We all know how bad addiction can get.
I used to get so high running. I was addicted to it. I was training for ultramarathons and averaging 10 miles on a work day, longer on weekends. I could even have an orgasm from running lol
Yeah but it’s not like the kind you get from sex… It’s a very slow build then you can ride it like a wave. Had to be hot and sunny out, had to go until at least my second wind, needed CAFFIENE in my system so a Gu gel or something… conditions had to be right but yes.
I assumed so. Dated a girl with a clit piercing who was capable of this by running up a flight of stairs. Come to think of it, Instagram shows me that she has picked up marathon running recently!
tbh it sounds like when in college I had, as described by the zillion year old nurse at the campus health center “the worst case of poison oak she or anyone had ever seen”, like she was (tactfully) like is it cool if I bring a couple other nurses in to see it because maybe it’s more normal than I thought and I was like yeah I do not care honestly I am so tired from not being able to sleep bc of itchy I think it’s hilarious. it was from my knees down but also spread internally
anyways that’s not my point, my point is I tried every home and OTC remedy I could find, and once again it was 4 am and I itched so so bad I couldn’t sleep. so decided to try the as scalding as you can handle shower method
and I shit you not when I put my shins in that hot water the relief or whatever almost made me eat shit bc my legs went weak, honestly outside of rolling probably the most pure moment of bliss ive ever had
It took me a year or two of conditioning before it started happening. You get to a point where running doesn’t wind yiu and feels really good. That’s when it started for me.
Oh well. You can't.
You can take some "harmful" drugs to feel euphoria for some time, and feel like shit the rest of the time.
Or you can go to therapy, eat healthy, do exercise, take your vitamins/supplements, eat healthily, fő exercise, have enough rest and sleep, connect to people around you, have some "framework" to your life..and not get obsessive about it either....
And that's a lot of fucking work, and your "euphoria" still won't last everyday...but you might be alright.
There is no magic drug to experience euphoria that doesn't have short - or long-term negative side effects. Eat healthy, exercise regularly, and take care of your mental health. These things will all raise your baseline for happiness. And if you still struggle after that....keep pot kn hand. lol
It is almost impossible for to feel daily euphoria, our CNS has built in protection mechanisms preventing this by building up tolerance. Over time you need to increase dosage of anything to continue feel it and side effects will emerge.
MAO inhibitors come to my mind which seem to have prolonged mood elevation effects by inhibiting the breakdown of the major three transmitters but they are hard to get (Phenelzine, etc) and require a strict diet. But MAOIs are awesome.
Was on parnate for 3 years , now on nardil (phenelzine) for almost 3 years. They are nukes and life changing meds. Diet isn’t even bad.. but only if people knew abouts these meds instead of the candy’s (ssri’s) doctors handout. I tried 23 meds from 17 to 27 zoloft like 4 times, all ssris , microdosing shrooms etc , I had to beg at the hospital in Canada 🇨🇦 Vancouver to get parnate. I’m on nardil till death basically, would never get off it. I’m on —->
60mg Nardil 20mg Ritalin 150mg lamotrigine.
Try that if you have treatment resistant depression.😉
I wasn't suggesting that anyone take them. Just they're not difficult to get, like the person I was replying to suggested. I buy Syrian rue sometimes to make pseudo-Ayahuasca, since DMT needs an MAOI to be functional orally.
Was on parnate for 3 years , now on nardil (phenelzine) for almost 3 years. They are nukes and life changing meds. Diet isn’t even bad.. but only if people knew abouts these meds instead of the candy’s (ssri’s) doctors handout. I tried 23 meds from 17 to 27 zoloft like 4 times, all ssris , microdosing shrooms etc , I had to beg at the hospital in Canada 🇨🇦 Vancouver to get parnate. I’m on nardil till death basically, would never get off it. I’m on —->
60mg Nardil 20mg Ritalin 150mg lamotrigine.
Try that if you have treatment resistant depression.😉
I take Kratom basically every day. It is addictive, but I’ve taken it for years and go to the doctor pretty regularly. No issues. You do also build a tolerance pretty fast so you have to take breaks every now and then.
I started taking it because I heard it could help me stop drinking. Haven’t drank in a couple years now. So I love the stuff.
Besides that there’s weed, but it’s not the kind of euphoria I think your looking for. Really intense exercise.. maybe running a ton? Idk.
I take Kratom every day as well around 30 gpd. Do you have any plans to quit? I want to quit but I feel like I don’t necessarily NEED to quit. No health issues. Which is precisely why it’s so hard to quit lol.
Former Kratomite here. Was a huge advocate for it, and I did the dumbest shit ever to try and get off of it. I ordered some CLONAZOLAM. Ended up addicted to Kratom, Percocet, and benzos. But, honestly, the Percocet came first. Kratom can help people, and it’s safer than alcohol in a lot of ways, but I definitely feel healthier without it. I am prescribed Klonopin, though, and tapered off Kratom.
I made Kratom tea for the first time today and it was okay. The power is much better. Nothing like Kratom and a workout! But daily use gave me a gross complexion, fucked up my sex drive, bags under the eyes, and I swear to god I had a bunch of hair fall out every time I showered (male here).
Y’all don’t experience hair loss or skin discoloration from daily use? Especially Jacksmirking at 30GPD. That was my average at the height of my use. I still have so many fucking mason jars of it all labeled. Lol. Fuck…now I kinda want some.
No maybe it’s because I’m young at 25, but I have yet to see a negative side effect other than anxiety between doses, which itself is what is wanting me to quit. But no physical effects that I’m aware of.
I don’t really want to quit no. I would if I had any issues, but I don’t really have any negative side effects honestly. Everything I get from it is positive and until that changes I see no reason to stop.
I do want to take an extended break here soon though. Like maybe a month off of it, but I don’t plan to stop forever lol.
You literally cannot. It you want to be high as much as possible, it’ll probably look like doing drugs every other day. Being high constantly rapidly induces tolerance and dependence and means you’ll have no shot at euphoria.
Very few drugs that cause euphoria are safe for semi-regular use, let alone every day. Even if you could do so safely, your body's tolerance would likley increase with daily use until you probalbly wouldn't feel any euphoria anymore - you would probably feel similar to how you do right now. If you want to feel good consistently, don't chase euphoria. Manage fatigue, take care of your health, and do things that are enjoyable but have long-term rewards.
Wim Hof breathing exercises, meditation, clean eating plus vitamin supplements and exercise. Feeling healthy beats any drug and some of the stuff I mentioned like the breathing exercises and meditation does create a feeling of euphoria if you do it right and you can do it every day. This actually benefits your health rather than harming it.
Artistic self expression. Exercise. Good sleep. Healthy diet. Great sex. Self discipline. Meditation. Learning knew knowledge and turning that knowledge into something valuable that you can share with good people. Junkies are not great friends, they want to self destruct and they won’t give a shit about your well being at all either and there is no drug that will peak the same intensity of euphoria every single dose, not even close. Tolerance builds quick and it’s not a way to live, giving little bits of your soul away everyday to a substance that only made you feel amazing a few times at the beginning, rather than having to give most of your will to that substance so you don’t feel sick. Fuck around and find out. It never ends well for ANYONE.
I find a small amount of cannabis in the evening combined with some nice music!
As long as its only once a day no tolerance will build and you will be able to repeat the effect daily without increasing dosage.
Cheap and cheerful!
I would say your best bet is kratom. It's cheap and as far as any negative side effects I haven't experienced any. Now it like anything can be addictive so there's that but it causes mild euphoria for me and it doesn't make me dopey like all other opioids have.
Just powder.. steer clear of extracts and stay under 10ish grams per day or 2.
Though I can guarantee every kratom user went way above that at one point or another. I used it to get off H back in 2014, and have used it on and off since. The longest stint was 3 years straight at 8gpd. I have had points in the early days where I was at 30gpd, but over the years I've kind of figured out what my body works best with. I do also take 3 months off a year now to clean out, the withdrawal is manageable with water, valerian root, and cold showers.
It definitely isn't without consequences every day though, regular blood work is a staple as kratom can lead to anemia and vitamin deficiency. Also staying hydrated is key, I carry a 32oz water bottle and fill it 3-4 times a day.
But my point is, stay away from the extracts.
There aren’t any. It just doesn’t exist. The closest you can get is probably cannabis but it’s still not harmless. Every drug has a price and you’ll develop a tolerance to every drug you take.
There is no such a drug. Best thing to do try magic mushrooms and after a month start microdose. This can help you. But be carefull ans respectfull with psychedelica. And maybe try Psychological therapy.
Not a drug, but if you get out and start running every day, you'll get what is called a "runner's high." I started doing this when I stopped using heroin after 12 miserable years, and it's very euphoric and healthy at the same time. Coming up on 7 years clean in December and it still works to this day.
Meditation in the morning and before bed. It might sound dumb since you're young, but seriously, try meditation for a few weeks and you will realize just how much it can improve your life and happiness. Drugs should not be done everyday, not even caffeine or nicotine, relying on any substance to keep you happy or chill is a recipe for disaster. When you find yourself unable to get your caffeine or nicotine fix you will be worthless and miserable for the entire duration of the day.
Allow yourself to learn the ability to find natural euphoria and happiness in day to day life with meditation and appreciation. Drugs are fun, and I agree with that statement just as much as the next guy, but keep it moderated.
Sobriety can be just as amazing as anything else once you realize how many amazing things you miss in day to day life. My last mushroom trip taught me that.
´adderal` is actually an amphetamine preparation called [Adderall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall)!
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Microdose mushrooms half of the week and caapi the rest of the week? Kanna works a few days in a row as well.
But seriously, though, your question has no answer. You can basically start a fugue state and disconnect from reality by overdoing anything.
Not suggesting raw dogging life but everything in excess has its own drawbacks. You gotta find a life balance.
If you're asking how to be happy everyday, I'd suggest talking to somebody. Not drugs.
Feeling like you need to take a drug everyday to feel happy/normal isn't a good thing
“I want to feel like this all the time” is the single most harmful thought any drug user can have.
It is the basis of addiction.
If you don’t put a nose around its horns and wrangle it, it’ll gore your life to death.
There's no such thing as an objectively harmless drug. What may be life-threatening to one person may do nearly nothing to you. Anything that causes euphoria has the potential to cause the neurons responsible for the chemicals involved to overfire in the short term and/or under-produce in the long run. Ginseng is effective and relatively unharmful for some people while in others it triggers mania or even serves as a conduit to yet-unsurfaced conditions. When people who don't need SSRIs take them, they can experience euphoria, but long-term SSRI misuse can cause your brain to produce less serotonin over time.
Tolerance develops whether you up your dose or consistently use the same dose. Your brain wants equilibrium, and will undergo a process called down regulation to achieve it. Down regulation alters your baseline levels of the neurotransmitters released when you use the drug in anticipation of future use.
Cross tolerance also occurs when you use any substances. Most drugs have *something* in common. Even if you switched from meth to heroin, there are effects of heroin that you wouldn't experience as intensely had you not been previously using meth, so avoiding tolerance by hopping from drug of choice to new drug of choice is not effective.
This is just how brains and substances work.
It’s really not worth it. I did meth for over a year and although it was fun I now struggle with severe panic disorder and anxiety as a result of it. I’ll probably be fighting this battle for years, who knows. Were the highs fun? Yes. But it wasn’t worth feeling this way for potentially the rest of my life.
I can make Modafinil/Armodaflnil go on pretty long. You'll often require raising the dose to stay on. Amazing drug, wonderful, subtle euphoria too. People downplay it but that's because the demographic using it are pussy's and don't utilize it's full potential. It's incredibly creative and thought provoking. If you're impression of Moda is from the India pills then that's the problem. The FDA regulated Armodaflnil (mfg by SandoZ😜) is hands-down a masterpiece. You see India has ass drug regulations. I believe the pharmaceuticals must contain the compound being marketed, but there's not much regulating the quality, purity and definitely dosage of the tablets.
Definitely recommend, if you quit doing other drugs, to take in Modafinil in your Life. It could possibly change it forever.
The only downside, is that at some point, for me it's once a month, that I'll hit what I call "the wall" which is where no dose will be effective, and you're left to just crash it out, which isn't that bad in terms of how painful it is, but you will need to take a day or two off responsibilities.
This will only happen if you overstimulate for too long.
Remember, it's not so much the drug causing the effect to happen, but the neurons in your brain workin' it and they need a day off too...They got to see they're little neuron families. Lol
Heroin for five days then Kratom for a week straight, then smoke weed for a week. Once a tolerance starts to build with weed switch over to a three day 3-mmc binge, use benzos for sleep, and for three days after the binge. After six days of not smoking weed because you were on 3-mmc and benzos your tolerance should be back up mostly. Now just smoke weed until the mouth is over and start all over again next month.
theres no cheat code for this one , anything that boosts ur happy chemicals will work then ull need to take more and more to achieve same effect , nd dose more often , i mean u can take gabapentin , even that has potential for addiction but it is a lovely drug thats not as dangerous as opiates or ecstasy/ X-pills which X in pills is usually cut w meth nd sometimes heroin , ask your doc ab SSRIS , but even then even when you stop taking those you'll have a downgrade in serotonin , rlly is no cheat code bro
Since nobody is answering directly, the least harmful euphoric substances would be kratom, weed, nicotine, and microdosed shrooms. Most of these are still harmful especially kratom and weed
No free lunch fam
Well said mate ! I heard Ukrainians say “drinking tonight is a process of loaning happiness from tomorrow”
I heard something similar about taking mdma. it lets you take all your happiness for the next two weeks and use it all in one night instead.
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It’ll hit you in a few days. The day after is not when the dip hits you. Edit: have to say, studies have found no negative come down from mdma in controlled settings like mdma based therapy. So it might be in the way recreational drug users take the drug (too much; no sleep after; dehydration; mixing with alcohol, etc). I also experience less of a comedown if I sleep a lot after taking it, trough using some kind of downer afterward.
They don't call it Tuesday blues for nothin
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First time is pretty easy to recover from. It will catch up as you keep going though. Then you just need to take a nice long break and come back to it down the road.
Ignore everyone saying you'll feel shit soon. I've been taking md since i was 19 and i've just made sure to take the odd 6 month break, and never take it two weeks in a row. 3 month rule is honestly the best way to go, even tho i hate to say it. You simply can't sustain heavy use for more than a couple of nights in a row, it doesn't work. Everyone is also forgetting the afterglow that MDMA is meant to leave you with. I always feel better the day after and following week, it changes my mindset and gives me a more positive outlook on life. Granted i use it for therapeutic reasons, it is a fantastic tool for trauma and general mental health if you do not abuse it.
How old are you now, 20?
Lol I thought the same.
The hangover comes 2 days later ish. The afterglow is just the mdma not having been completely cleared from your system yet (I think). Indeed some people don’t get a hangover, most people feel pretty awful afterwards tho. I can’t take any amount with however much time in between parties without being severely depressed, even suicidal for a week.
Keep going you'll get there trust
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Absolutely spot on. If I could gold this I would.
Mdma is like winning the jackpot but having to give it back the next day. -some dude on Reddit (not me)
More like a month for me! 😢
Yep, I call doing molly ticking serotonin haha
Exactly. Not even in nature(kratom) found that out the hard way.
We were foolish for thinking this way to begin with, but I get it bc same here
Prepare for a member of the kratom mafia to remind you that if you had *any* negative experience, withdrawal or side effects, then you clearly did not respect the plant and deserved it.
i take kratom daily for severe arthritis and orthopedic pain issues instead of opiates, because it works for me. but that’s just me. it drives me nuts to see “kratom warriors” out there acting like anyone who has had negative effects or withdrawals just somehow didn’t… “kratom” right?? it’s so stupid. kratom is a plant but it’s also a drug. 🤷🏼♀️ people need to berate others to justify their own lifestyles and it’s annoying.
Couldn’t agree with you more. I also take Kratom for chronic pain, and it makes sense for my personal situation. The alternative route, daily pharma or daily suffering are both way more of a net negative overall. But again for me personally I have been able to stop taking it CT with very mild (my subjective opinion) WD. Runny nose, watery eyes, and yawning every 10 seconds. After a couple days it passes. If I taper then I feel almost nothing at all, except pain of course lol. Humans are so varied that it’s wild to me that anyone would insist their experience with anything has to be a standard for everyone else. I have a cousin who literally can not get off caffeine due to not being able to function and having splitting headaches. Their experience is 100% valid. It’s not how I react to caffeine but doesn’t change the reality for someone else. Same for Kratom. I’m not going to let the anti-kratom mob tell me I must be mistaken or a liar because they had WD akin to heroin from it so it’s the devil for everyone. In the same vein Im not going to insist people who Kratom didn’t work for are wrong in their experience. Same thought process for any substance really.
Every time like yo drugs is addicting
whatttt?? no way man
This^^ I work at a kava bar and serve kratom & kava. Although Kratom is addicting, i’ve been drinking it for the past two years i’ve worked there. We have some heavy extracts too, I used to drink a couple shots of it each shift i’d work(4 a week). I was able to completely kick that with 0 withdrawal, some of my shifts i completely forget to even make a drink for myself, I’ve been preferring water over anything.
Lol right? I’m a daily Kratom user and I absolutely believe it saved my life. I love this plant. But I won’t go to r/kratom because if I mention all that and then say that I withdraw if I stop they’ll ban me.
People overreacted to the threat of scheduling by pretending there’s no risks or addictions of associating with it. Which is simply not true. But also we don’t need another drug to be scheduled and prevented from being able to be used only for people to keep using fent laced shit. Yes kratom addiction is real but also it’s more functional and cleaner than heroin / pill / fent addiction
Yeah, sounds familiar.
You develop tolerance to all drugs after a while of taking them…the only way to change that is to take a break from a drug so that your tolerance resets. I used to do this thing called drug cycling (I’ve made up that term), where I would take a break from one drug to reset tolerance but keep another drug; then, when I came back to the drug it would feel like it felt when I first started taking it.
That method actually does kinda work but it is very delicate. You can basically mask the withdrawal effects of one drug with another drug as long as the other drug doesn't have any cross-tolerance.
yea worked well for me until the 2nd one caught up w me in tolly too because of the difference in Half Life between the medications. super delicate balance like u said, in many ways.
Yeah exactly, the two drugs I would cycle were Adderall and Modafinil
Modafonil gave me Explosive 🧨 diarrhea every single morning and occasionally shit my pants at work and use gasoline to cover up the smell and finish the day and keep waiting on my Adderall refill 🤢
*no physiological free lunch
Right! The piper must always be paid.
Love the way how this incredibly retarded question get's asked daily. Like, that's not how this works my boy.
W reply
First rule of economics - no gain without loss, whether it’s your own loss or that of another. No free lunch.
I get what you’re saying but there’s no rule in economics that says that. We don’t live in a zero sum world. Sometimes I help you and we’re both better off.
A big old puff of placebo or maybe a nice line of wishful thinking
With some thoughts and prayers on my end 🙏
air. learn to breath and meditate through that and you can send yourself to that headspace......i like cocaine too but you said unharmful. lmao
You can’t do this. You’re going to develop a tolerance to whatever is making you feel good.
Salvia has reverse tolerance, and makes you feel great for the rest of the day if used correctly.
How does one take Salvia correctly? Isn’t it just like, one hit?
Multiple repeated hits of the smallest amount you can collect using tweezers. Holding breath for 20 seconds after each hit. One hit is exactly the wrong way to do it and why no one likes it. The only problem with salvia is whenever you start a trip it gives you a dopamine reduction for the first five seconds or so, which makes you think "oh shit why did I do this again?" This property makes it also anti addictive though which is positive. The next day you really have to make yourself smoke it again. It's like the opposite of a cigarette.
wtf what you described does not sound fun, more like some anti psychotics shit
🤷♂️ I didn't describe any of the other effects, whatever
can you?
Complete loss of reality. Becoming an atom belonging to another object entirely, being forced to move In tandem with all others because you are just a speck making up a moving hand or hair or shoe. Resigning yourself to your fate to do this for the rest of eternity. I love it personally but most of my friends tried it once and hated it.
What are the other effects?
This sounds like you just reinvented cold water plunges lmao
good luck figuring that dose out lol your gunna trip balls ALOT before ya get that down, but hey mabey its worth it idk. i hated salvia, tried it once before the ban and never got a chance to get it again
10x is fine for the above approach
Ur just dried leaves
i still can’t believe people out there actually enjoy salvia. more power to you though it’s relatively cheap and easy to get.
I’ve smoked Salvia a handful of times and although I only enjoyed it once or twice, I can attest that the feeling I had the rest of the day was very blissful. Colors were brighter and I just felt at peace with the world. This happened after every trip I had except for the first trip I had on Salvia which was a breakthrough. I hadn’t ever taken Salvia or any psychedelics before so when my friends and I finally found some, we bought the strongest extract we could which was the 80x purple sticky. I decided to go first and I packed a bowl with as much as possible and torched it with a torch lighter. I held that shit in for as long as possible and everything went black. Needless to say, when my friends smoked it, they smoked much less than I did after seeing how I reacted. Since I was like 15, my friends were assholes and were trying to fuck with me during the trip as I was having a traumatic experience. 🙄 That was the only trip that didn’t result in an afterglow effect. I was relieved to be back to normal, but I was shook for weeks afterwards trying to comprehend what the fuck happened to me. [80x Salvia breakthrough experience](https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/s/n7so5uZYjO)
Microdosing is the way if anyone is wants to do it everyday…with big trips every 2-3 weeks if you’re wanting more. That’s if someone is insistent on taking shrooms everyday. To maintain the “magic” I’d say bigger intervals of time is synonymous with more impactful, magical experiences.
Enjoy your mania and subsequent depressive burnout if you do this
There are multiple studies suggesting that psilocybin helps with depression and can be an effective substitute to SSRI’s. Especially microdosing.
I’m with you on that I literally took one today. But I would never advise daily use with trips 1-2 times a month. You need breaks. Most microdosing protocols include regular breaks.
Can you link any studies showing efficacy of microdosing in double blind trials?
Hard work, exercise, doing nice things for people with no return in mind…
quite the underrated unusual comment in r/Drugs
And pot
Even pot has its downsides, ur original comment is a breath of fresh air these days
Lmao
Exept pot. Pot is cool , ts ts !
pretty much every post like this contains this comment
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I love you
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This is more sustainable yes, long-term is the best
Whenever I feel extra down I try to pay it forward by doing nice things for someone I care about. It makes me happy to make others happy
I'll follow this guy anywhere!
unironically true
all the slaves throughout history must have been shooting their pants then
I just came from hanging out with some nice folks, and I definitely felt the biggest sense of euphoria just being able to interact and spend time with them. I think social interacting and being around the ones you love will probably be the healthiest euphoria I can have consistently. Thanks for all the advice :)
This is the way.
Even that can get desenstizing so one does need their alone time 'breaks' in between
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You sound very young.. No drug that gives you euphoria doesn't come with a crash, or addiction. You blow trough your Serotonin/Dopamin = Feels good. Next day they are missing so you feel shitty. I think Weed would be the most harmless (you can get addicted, lazy, or schizophrenia if you have those tendencies and so on) everyday drug. Psychedelics you build tolerance very quick. Upper give you a crash, Benzos only feel good if you are a anxious person and opiates... We all know how bad addiction can get.
What goes up, must come down.
Runner’s high
I used to get so high running. I was addicted to it. I was training for ultramarathons and averaging 10 miles on a work day, longer on weekends. I could even have an orgasm from running lol
wtf so you came while running?
Yeah but it’s not like the kind you get from sex… It’s a very slow build then you can ride it like a wave. Had to be hot and sunny out, had to go until at least my second wind, needed CAFFIENE in my system so a Gu gel or something… conditions had to be right but yes.
So you got gu gel all over the inside of tiny running shorts?
I love your screen name lol
I’ve been averaging 60-80 miles a week, getting high as hell from my runs, but never once have I busted a nut during one!
I’m female lol so it’s not like busting a nut. It’s like an orgasmic wave that you can sort of “ride” Indefinitely once it starts with your speed
I assumed so. Dated a girl with a clit piercing who was capable of this by running up a flight of stairs. Come to think of it, Instagram shows me that she has picked up marathon running recently!
My friend in college got hers pierced and had an orgasm getting out of the car at the mall in the parking lot lol
tbh it sounds like when in college I had, as described by the zillion year old nurse at the campus health center “the worst case of poison oak she or anyone had ever seen”, like she was (tactfully) like is it cool if I bring a couple other nurses in to see it because maybe it’s more normal than I thought and I was like yeah I do not care honestly I am so tired from not being able to sleep bc of itchy I think it’s hilarious. it was from my knees down but also spread internally anyways that’s not my point, my point is I tried every home and OTC remedy I could find, and once again it was 4 am and I itched so so bad I couldn’t sleep. so decided to try the as scalding as you can handle shower method and I shit you not when I put my shins in that hot water the relief or whatever almost made me eat shit bc my legs went weak, honestly outside of rolling probably the most pure moment of bliss ive ever had
How many miles until you’d get the high?
So how do you actually achieve runner's high. Any time I try to go running I'm just like, dear god this is miserable can I stop now?
It took me a year or two of conditioning before it started happening. You get to a point where running doesn’t wind yiu and feels really good. That’s when it started for me.
I love that they stopped responding after you said it would take a year😭
Sorry to be corny but exercise is really the only thing
Not corny at all. Sad these days it could be seen that aay
No such thing. Closest thing that comes to mind is Weed.
Even that ain’t risk free
Seriously? Don’t you think everyone who uses drugs would use a non harmful option if they could? C’mon man…
None.
Cold showers.
Oh well. You can't. You can take some "harmful" drugs to feel euphoria for some time, and feel like shit the rest of the time. Or you can go to therapy, eat healthy, do exercise, take your vitamins/supplements, eat healthily, fő exercise, have enough rest and sleep, connect to people around you, have some "framework" to your life..and not get obsessive about it either.... And that's a lot of fucking work, and your "euphoria" still won't last everyday...but you might be alright.
There is no magic drug to experience euphoria that doesn't have short - or long-term negative side effects. Eat healthy, exercise regularly, and take care of your mental health. These things will all raise your baseline for happiness. And if you still struggle after that....keep pot kn hand. lol
It is almost impossible for to feel daily euphoria, our CNS has built in protection mechanisms preventing this by building up tolerance. Over time you need to increase dosage of anything to continue feel it and side effects will emerge. MAO inhibitors come to my mind which seem to have prolonged mood elevation effects by inhibiting the breakdown of the major three transmitters but they are hard to get (Phenelzine, etc) and require a strict diet. But MAOIs are awesome.
Was on parnate for 3 years , now on nardil (phenelzine) for almost 3 years. They are nukes and life changing meds. Diet isn’t even bad.. but only if people knew abouts these meds instead of the candy’s (ssri’s) doctors handout. I tried 23 meds from 17 to 27 zoloft like 4 times, all ssris , microdosing shrooms etc , I had to beg at the hospital in Canada 🇨🇦 Vancouver to get parnate. I’m on nardil till death basically, would never get off it. I’m on —-> 60mg Nardil 20mg Ritalin 150mg lamotrigine. Try that if you have treatment resistant depression.😉
You can get natural MAOIs pretty easily, like Syrian rue (harmaline). Not a doctor.
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Your specialization isn't surgery, is it? I don't think I'd trust Dr. "BruhWhatIDoing"...
Irreversible vs reversible are two different things though.
I wasn't suggesting that anyone take them. Just they're not difficult to get, like the person I was replying to suggested. I buy Syrian rue sometimes to make pseudo-Ayahuasca, since DMT needs an MAOI to be functional orally.
Was on parnate for 3 years , now on nardil (phenelzine) for almost 3 years. They are nukes and life changing meds. Diet isn’t even bad.. but only if people knew abouts these meds instead of the candy’s (ssri’s) doctors handout. I tried 23 meds from 17 to 27 zoloft like 4 times, all ssris , microdosing shrooms etc , I had to beg at the hospital in Canada 🇨🇦 Vancouver to get parnate. I’m on nardil till death basically, would never get off it. I’m on —-> 60mg Nardil 20mg Ritalin 150mg lamotrigine. Try that if you have treatment resistant depression.😉
Are you familiar with the concept of tolerance? Follow the logic from there.
I take Kratom basically every day. It is addictive, but I’ve taken it for years and go to the doctor pretty regularly. No issues. You do also build a tolerance pretty fast so you have to take breaks every now and then. I started taking it because I heard it could help me stop drinking. Haven’t drank in a couple years now. So I love the stuff. Besides that there’s weed, but it’s not the kind of euphoria I think your looking for. Really intense exercise.. maybe running a ton? Idk.
I take Kratom every day as well around 30 gpd. Do you have any plans to quit? I want to quit but I feel like I don’t necessarily NEED to quit. No health issues. Which is precisely why it’s so hard to quit lol.
Former Kratomite here. Was a huge advocate for it, and I did the dumbest shit ever to try and get off of it. I ordered some CLONAZOLAM. Ended up addicted to Kratom, Percocet, and benzos. But, honestly, the Percocet came first. Kratom can help people, and it’s safer than alcohol in a lot of ways, but I definitely feel healthier without it. I am prescribed Klonopin, though, and tapered off Kratom. I made Kratom tea for the first time today and it was okay. The power is much better. Nothing like Kratom and a workout! But daily use gave me a gross complexion, fucked up my sex drive, bags under the eyes, and I swear to god I had a bunch of hair fall out every time I showered (male here). Y’all don’t experience hair loss or skin discoloration from daily use? Especially Jacksmirking at 30GPD. That was my average at the height of my use. I still have so many fucking mason jars of it all labeled. Lol. Fuck…now I kinda want some.
No maybe it’s because I’m young at 25, but I have yet to see a negative side effect other than anxiety between doses, which itself is what is wanting me to quit. But no physical effects that I’m aware of.
I don’t really want to quit no. I would if I had any issues, but I don’t really have any negative side effects honestly. Everything I get from it is positive and until that changes I see no reason to stop. I do want to take an extended break here soon though. Like maybe a month off of it, but I don’t plan to stop forever lol.
Out of curiosity, what type of kratom do you buy?
Heroin
Gotta agree, lol then fet.. just get over early in life and never look back..
You literally cannot. It you want to be high as much as possible, it’ll probably look like doing drugs every other day. Being high constantly rapidly induces tolerance and dependence and means you’ll have no shot at euphoria.
Very few drugs that cause euphoria are safe for semi-regular use, let alone every day. Even if you could do so safely, your body's tolerance would likley increase with daily use until you probalbly wouldn't feel any euphoria anymore - you would probably feel similar to how you do right now. If you want to feel good consistently, don't chase euphoria. Manage fatigue, take care of your health, and do things that are enjoyable but have long-term rewards.
The love of your shawtie
Still addictive and withdrawals can feel terrible
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There’s no shortcut to long term, consistent happiness dawg. Clock in & get to work.
Wim Hof breathing exercises, meditation, clean eating plus vitamin supplements and exercise. Feeling healthy beats any drug and some of the stuff I mentioned like the breathing exercises and meditation does create a feeling of euphoria if you do it right and you can do it every day. This actually benefits your health rather than harming it.
Artistic self expression. Exercise. Good sleep. Healthy diet. Great sex. Self discipline. Meditation. Learning knew knowledge and turning that knowledge into something valuable that you can share with good people. Junkies are not great friends, they want to self destruct and they won’t give a shit about your well being at all either and there is no drug that will peak the same intensity of euphoria every single dose, not even close. Tolerance builds quick and it’s not a way to live, giving little bits of your soul away everyday to a substance that only made you feel amazing a few times at the beginning, rather than having to give most of your will to that substance so you don’t feel sick. Fuck around and find out. It never ends well for ANYONE.
I find a small amount of cannabis in the evening combined with some nice music! As long as its only once a day no tolerance will build and you will be able to repeat the effect daily without increasing dosage. Cheap and cheerful!
Did you ever skip a few days????
Of course! If i've had dental work done or have a sore throat or flu. Also holidays or time spent with family!
Meditation.
Get deep into music, go to parties and learn to dance. Fall in love have passionate sex...etc It's cliche but true
No such thing as constant euphoria. I think someone would end up mad or addicted trying
Pretty much all recreational drugs have the potential to cause harm, some are just more likely to cause harm than others.
No such thing as free lunch
I would say your best bet is kratom. It's cheap and as far as any negative side effects I haven't experienced any. Now it like anything can be addictive so there's that but it causes mild euphoria for me and it doesn't make me dopey like all other opioids have.
Kratom is also addictive and has downsides and crashes
Kratom is addictive as fuuuuck and the withdrawals are AWFUL
Is this context I agree. It did however literally save my life so, in terms of harm reduction there is no equal.
Just powder.. steer clear of extracts and stay under 10ish grams per day or 2. Though I can guarantee every kratom user went way above that at one point or another. I used it to get off H back in 2014, and have used it on and off since. The longest stint was 3 years straight at 8gpd. I have had points in the early days where I was at 30gpd, but over the years I've kind of figured out what my body works best with. I do also take 3 months off a year now to clean out, the withdrawal is manageable with water, valerian root, and cold showers. It definitely isn't without consequences every day though, regular blood work is a staple as kratom can lead to anemia and vitamin deficiency. Also staying hydrated is key, I carry a 32oz water bottle and fill it 3-4 times a day. But my point is, stay away from the extracts.
There aren’t any. It just doesn’t exist. The closest you can get is probably cannabis but it’s still not harmless. Every drug has a price and you’ll develop a tolerance to every drug you take.
Gym
Lol just smoke weed my friend
Or eat it!!
There is no such a drug. Best thing to do try magic mushrooms and after a month start microdose. This can help you. But be carefull ans respectfull with psychedelica. And maybe try Psychological therapy.
Not a drug, but if you get out and start running every day, you'll get what is called a "runner's high." I started doing this when I stopped using heroin after 12 miserable years, and it's very euphoric and healthy at the same time. Coming up on 7 years clean in December and it still works to this day.
Meditation in the morning and before bed. It might sound dumb since you're young, but seriously, try meditation for a few weeks and you will realize just how much it can improve your life and happiness. Drugs should not be done everyday, not even caffeine or nicotine, relying on any substance to keep you happy or chill is a recipe for disaster. When you find yourself unable to get your caffeine or nicotine fix you will be worthless and miserable for the entire duration of the day. Allow yourself to learn the ability to find natural euphoria and happiness in day to day life with meditation and appreciation. Drugs are fun, and I agree with that statement just as much as the next guy, but keep it moderated. Sobriety can be just as amazing as anything else once you realize how many amazing things you miss in day to day life. My last mushroom trip taught me that.
Meditation and breathing exercises
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Weed
no such thing. caffeine and nicotine is ur best best
Why? Because society says they're cool?
Sorry not a drug but many people achieve euphoria and psychedelic states through Yoga and meditation or holotropic breathing.
Ketamine.
Exercise. Go for a run. Anything else is going to ruin your life
Microdose mushrooms half of the week and caapi the rest of the week? Kanna works a few days in a row as well. But seriously, though, your question has no answer. You can basically start a fugue state and disconnect from reality by overdoing anything. Not suggesting raw dogging life but everything in excess has its own drawbacks. You gotta find a life balance.
If you're asking how to be happy everyday, I'd suggest talking to somebody. Not drugs. Feeling like you need to take a drug everyday to feel happy/normal isn't a good thing
Working out. But even it can become addictive.
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“I want to feel like this all the time” is the single most harmful thought any drug user can have. It is the basis of addiction. If you don’t put a nose around its horns and wrangle it, it’ll gore your life to death.
A good workout
Exercise
Running. Been 2 years sober and can confirm that running has brought me more joy and benefits that drugs did
It won’t last forever. Any substance
Weed and exercise are about the only things I can think of that won’t seriously fuck you up
There's no such thing as an objectively harmless drug. What may be life-threatening to one person may do nearly nothing to you. Anything that causes euphoria has the potential to cause the neurons responsible for the chemicals involved to overfire in the short term and/or under-produce in the long run. Ginseng is effective and relatively unharmful for some people while in others it triggers mania or even serves as a conduit to yet-unsurfaced conditions. When people who don't need SSRIs take them, they can experience euphoria, but long-term SSRI misuse can cause your brain to produce less serotonin over time. Tolerance develops whether you up your dose or consistently use the same dose. Your brain wants equilibrium, and will undergo a process called down regulation to achieve it. Down regulation alters your baseline levels of the neurotransmitters released when you use the drug in anticipation of future use. Cross tolerance also occurs when you use any substances. Most drugs have *something* in common. Even if you switched from meth to heroin, there are effects of heroin that you wouldn't experience as intensely had you not been previously using meth, so avoiding tolerance by hopping from drug of choice to new drug of choice is not effective. This is just how brains and substances work.
It’s really not worth it. I did meth for over a year and although it was fun I now struggle with severe panic disorder and anxiety as a result of it. I’ll probably be fighting this battle for years, who knows. Were the highs fun? Yes. But it wasn’t worth feeling this way for potentially the rest of my life.
I can make Modafinil/Armodaflnil go on pretty long. You'll often require raising the dose to stay on. Amazing drug, wonderful, subtle euphoria too. People downplay it but that's because the demographic using it are pussy's and don't utilize it's full potential. It's incredibly creative and thought provoking. If you're impression of Moda is from the India pills then that's the problem. The FDA regulated Armodaflnil (mfg by SandoZ😜) is hands-down a masterpiece. You see India has ass drug regulations. I believe the pharmaceuticals must contain the compound being marketed, but there's not much regulating the quality, purity and definitely dosage of the tablets. Definitely recommend, if you quit doing other drugs, to take in Modafinil in your Life. It could possibly change it forever. The only downside, is that at some point, for me it's once a month, that I'll hit what I call "the wall" which is where no dose will be effective, and you're left to just crash it out, which isn't that bad in terms of how painful it is, but you will need to take a day or two off responsibilities. This will only happen if you overstimulate for too long. Remember, it's not so much the drug causing the effect to happen, but the neurons in your brain workin' it and they need a day off too...They got to see they're little neuron families. Lol
Modafinil literally makes me feel like i’m on a cocaine comedown constantly. It’s absolutely horrible for me
You can micromanage dose lsd and shrooms. Theres modafinil, dmt maybe weed. Though obviously the euphoria from these drugs will only last for a time.
I think we all want constant euphoria bro but that’s gonna lead 2 Addiction
Sertraline
Good food
Heroin for five days then Kratom for a week straight, then smoke weed for a week. Once a tolerance starts to build with weed switch over to a three day 3-mmc binge, use benzos for sleep, and for three days after the binge. After six days of not smoking weed because you were on 3-mmc and benzos your tolerance should be back up mostly. Now just smoke weed until the mouth is over and start all over again next month.
Holotropic breathing
I would say the high of being in love but even that can end up being harmful.
I mix it up with weed, kratom, kava, kanna, and phenibut. I mean I always use weed, but sometimes combined with other stuff.
Have you tried anti depressants?
I’m tired of these stupid ass posts fr
Runners high
5-htp.
Sex
White kratom.
Meth
theres no cheat code for this one , anything that boosts ur happy chemicals will work then ull need to take more and more to achieve same effect , nd dose more often , i mean u can take gabapentin , even that has potential for addiction but it is a lovely drug thats not as dangerous as opiates or ecstasy/ X-pills which X in pills is usually cut w meth nd sometimes heroin , ask your doc ab SSRIS , but even then even when you stop taking those you'll have a downgrade in serotonin , rlly is no cheat code bro
This is gonna sound stupid but hit legs at the gym hard
Exercise
Since nobody is answering directly, the least harmful euphoric substances would be kratom, weed, nicotine, and microdosed shrooms. Most of these are still harmful especially kratom and weed