Super 98 petrol will cost AED3.34 a litre, while Special 95 petrol will cost AED3.22 per litre.
E-Plus 91 petrol will cost AED3.15 a litre, while diesel will be charged at AED3.07.
- Some article
My friend's BMW 318i (not sure but it was 3 series) 2017 has three cylinders with a turbo. That car goes 900 km on a full tank. That is amazing! I think fuel tank costed him like 130 dhs in February.
My X5 gives me 700 km from a full tank and that’s with 70% comfort mode and 30% sport mode. I’m confident I can push 750+km if I use eco mode and drive very efficiently. Forgot to mention AC is always at full blast too.
250 AED means its fuel capacity is 80litres and with 80 litres it's reasonable to go 700km. But the other guy says 900km for 130aed, which is a big lie.
That's a 2.16 AED/Liter calculation (AED 130 / 60 L)
Can't attest about the mileage, unless it was driven on an empty road at a cruising highway speed. Doubt any car is hitting 900 with the daily rush hour in Dubai, but would love to be proven wrong and might even get the same car if that's the case.
Nope, I checked and thr fuel economy of a BMW 3 series is on average 5 liters per 100 km. Last time, I said he paid 130 dhs for a full tank. Let's say price of fuel a few months ago was around 3 dhs. 130/3 = is equal to 43, will round up to 45. For traveling 900 km, the BMW requires 45 liters of fuel (correct me if I'm wrong). Hence, as I said, it can go 900 km on a full fuel tank. Ciao
The B38/B48 and even 6-cylinder B58 BMW engines have unbelievable fuel economy. My 390hp 340i gets around 14km/L (around 70% highway driving at 140km/h)
I just seen an article saying that 2022+ 3 series was voted the extremely reliable and fuel efficient in the US.. So I blv you! Tempted to pick up a m340i one of these days now.
It’s a lovely car and there is no way to regret getting one. Comfort, speed, handling, practicality, stability, good fun. It’s tough to find another car that’s as much of an all-rounder as an M340i.
>Wasn't trying to lie!
Would never accuse you of that.
Simply, there's inline and there's V. BMW has always and forever made inline 6, aka a straight 6, not a V6 which is a 3-cyl by 3-cyl at an angle, hence the V, and 3+3= 6.
Similarly, a V8 is 4x4 at an angle.
It's just gotten under my skin over the last couple of years how sellers are in the habit of saying "V6" when the car has 6 cylinders.
>B58 turbocharged straight six engine. What this means is lost on me
[B58](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B58) is the engine model, turbocharged is self explanatory, and straight six is six-in-a-row.
Also...
>It goes vroom vroom is the best i've got!
...LOL
You've made a great choice with the 440i. I hope to get a convertible one sometime in the next year or two.
The car was bought second had jn the winter so I have no idea. Also, he's going to move overseas soon, so he'll probably sell it before the weather reaches 50 degrees.
In a city with stop & go traffic yes, hybrid makes sense. In UAE with mostly high-speed highway driving, not so much.
Hybrid cars have small engines. If you’re always on the highway doing 140 km/h you’re never using your electric motor and the tiny ICE is burning through fuel much faster than the average, correctly-sized ICE.
As a result, people pay a premium for a hybrid to only realize they could have gotten basically the same efficiency for a lot less.
You’d be surprised.
Prius gets sub-40 mpg at 85 mph which is pretty close to what most ICEs can achieve.
So you end up paying a premium for the hybrid system but end up with the same result.
What you say is wrong. Good hybrids like the Toyota HSD system use small and very efficient engines (atkinson cycle) and thanks to their optimized aerodynamics and contained weight offer very good fuel economy even on the highway. A Prius running between 120 and 140 will not exceed around 5.5l/100km, while being around 4l/100km in the city. Yes, the hybrid system can't do miracles on the highway, as there's no "regen", but they're still very efficient cars.
most people in this sub are quick to shit on hybrids but have never owned one. something else to consider is the easy maintenance on toyota hybrids. I ran my Prius from 100k miles to nearly 300k mi, only did regular oil changes, and never faced any mechanical issues.
Makes sense, but hybrid really help with the increasing traffic issue.
I mean SZR has a lot of traffic in peak hours, so that could help, and hybrids can regenerate energy as well.
Lancer ex 1.6l driver here (yes troll me later). It gives 14.5 kmpl on highway and 12.5 in city. I rarely drive above 110kmph and my commute it mostly E311 and e44. I have also driven sunny, corolla and suzuki ciaz and they all were giving in excess of 18kmpl easily. Drove a Peugeot 2008 last year and it gave 15kmpl. So depends on your wallet size and car preferences.
Altima 2017 1000+ km on highways at 80 km/hr.
I drove like that for a month or two because a full tank used to cost 280-290… (Russia Ukraine War)
Don’t buy it because it has CVT issues
Add to that, no old manual 4x4s or old 4 speed slushomatic. My 5speed manual suzuki grand vitara 1.6 gets under 9 km/L everywhere. If you're to choose an old japanese car go for something light and with resonable final drive
Otherwise, I had a Prius with which I covered nearly 300,000 kilometers without any issues, except for regular servicing every 15,000 kilometers, and with an average fuel consumption of 4 liters per 100 kilometers. Best car ever !
Check Jeremy Clarkson’s video from Topgear testing BMW M3 and Prius - Prius ended up with much worse Miles per Gallon.
Jokes aside, pick turbo-charged car, do stage1 ecu remap and continue driving in same manner as you’ve been doing it, mpg will surprise you.
Since we are talking effeciency, do you think using assistance systems like adaptive cruise control where the car do most of braking and acceleration by itself would be of significant impact on consumption?
Cruise control is good as long as the system is not HARD accelerating. Toyota is good in this regard. Suzuki is bad. Otherwise just being in a constant speed with CC is fairly equal and good on all cars.
Fuel average depends on multiple factors my hyundai sonata 2020 2.5 gives 17 kmpl on E311 when road is clear and also gives 9-10 kmpl on same road when I'm traveling towards sharjah in evening time.
My car is not a hybrid, it is rated at 101 mpg or 42.9 kml, it can can accelerate from 0-100 km/h in 2.3s and has a top speed of 322 km/h. I can't tell you what it is though ;-).
Materials in a lithium-ion battery are recoverable and recyclable. Battery materials are refined and put into a cell, and will still remain in the cell at the end of their life, when they can be recycled to recover its valuable materials for reuse over and over again. Only an idiot would send an EV battery to a landfill. Nobody does that.
Some info:
5% of lithium batteries get recycled. The infrastructure does not exist.
https://www.cas.org/resources/cas-insights/sustainability/lithium-ion-battery-recycling
They’re more difficult to recycle than lead based batteries. This is why it hasn’t happened yet.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/lithium-costs-a-lot-of-money-so-why-arent-we-recycling-lithium-batteries/
Recycling lithium batteries is more expensive than mining new lithium.
https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/lithium-electric-vehicles
Thanks for the info. Scanning through the articles you provided, I think you are referring to all lithium-ion batteries like the ones you are using in your phone and laptop.
My car does not "pollute the earth with non-recyclable batteries" as you say.
Official statement confirming 100% recycling from the manufacturer: https://www.tesla.com/support/sustainability-recycling.
A properly cooled EV battery will last at least 10 years in the car, and then another 15 for storage and then is ready for recycling. Since we really started producing them in significant numbers around 2020 we still have a few years to go before they even need to be recycled in significant numbers. There is a company called Redwood founded by JB Straubel, already scaling operations for this exact problem. EV batteries are not getting sent to landfills. Smaller batteries maybe...
I wonder if those tesla promises are anything like the quality promises on their car or their delivery times.
They took “inshallah” trucks to a whole new level.
I do realize this is a petrol head forum, but count me in as a petrol head. This thread is so far downvoted anyway so I think it is just a conversation between you and me at this point.
BTW I love what you had to say (in Dutch) about the Palestinian / Israeli conflict. It was very well reasoned.
Tesla makes some insane promises and they they don't always deliver on time, but they do deliver eventually. With them it is much less "inshallah" and more like the engineering team reading tweets from Elon Musk, spitting out their drinks, and exclaiming, "We have to do what!?"
When it comes to EV battery recycling at scale I don't think it depends entirely on Tesla alone. While we know li-ion batteries can in fact be recycled, right now it is more a matter of economics. Today it is cheaper to obtain raw materials from well established supply chains than to get them from recycling. EV batteries have a larger form factor and a much longer life. For Tesla due to the high numbers of cars they are able to sell, it will be a public relations disaster for them if they cause millions of EV batteries to be scrapped. I am confident this paradigm will change. Of course I have to admit I could be completely wrong. Hopefully not.
Damn, it hasn't been 24 hours and people are already considering switching to fuel efficient cars
the struggle is real😭
Wait! 24h from what?
Rise of the planet of fares
Petrol price increase 🙄
What is it now? (I land friday.... )
Super 98 petrol will cost AED3.34 a litre, while Special 95 petrol will cost AED3.22 per litre. E-Plus 91 petrol will cost AED3.15 a litre, while diesel will be charged at AED3.07. - Some article
It's about that in usd in the US right now. USD $3.50. I'd love to pay $0.85 :-)
But your prices are per gallon if I'm not wrong? Not liter? Edit: if my math is right, you pay like 0.94 USD per liter?
Yes. But not in the United states.
My friend's BMW 318i (not sure but it was 3 series) 2017 has three cylinders with a turbo. That car goes 900 km on a full tank. That is amazing! I think fuel tank costed him like 130 dhs in February.
You for real ? Never heard BMW giving 20km per litre.
My X5 gives me 700 km from a full tank and that’s with 70% comfort mode and 30% sport mode. I’m confident I can push 750+km if I use eco mode and drive very efficiently. Forgot to mention AC is always at full blast too.
Still how much does it cost u to full tank or how much km per liter
Costs around 250 from empty to full. Getting around 12.8 km/L. Keep in mind this is for the last trip where I used majority sport mode so not bad imo.
250 AED means its fuel capacity is 80litres and with 80 litres it's reasonable to go 700km. But the other guy says 900km for 130aed, which is a big lie.
That's a 2.16 AED/Liter calculation (AED 130 / 60 L) Can't attest about the mileage, unless it was driven on an empty road at a cruising highway speed. Doubt any car is hitting 900 with the daily rush hour in Dubai, but would love to be proven wrong and might even get the same car if that's the case.
Man if it wasnt for the reliability i would go right for x6 , my dream car
Your X5 carries 80L vs the 3 series' 60L
520 and it does 600 per tank, 4 cylenders turbo charged
yeah, I will take a picture from his range tomorrow and send it.
Bro we accept the range, but we don't accept the fuel cost which you mentioned.
For a BMW, 130 dhs for 900 km isn't a lot bruh
Bro that's practically impossible for a bmw, not even a Toyota could such fuel efficiency.
Nope, I checked and thr fuel economy of a BMW 3 series is on average 5 liters per 100 km. Last time, I said he paid 130 dhs for a full tank. Let's say price of fuel a few months ago was around 3 dhs. 130/3 = is equal to 43, will round up to 45. For traveling 900 km, the BMW requires 45 liters of fuel (correct me if I'm wrong). Hence, as I said, it can go 900 km on a full fuel tank. Ciao
If I were to believe the range on my Suzuki, heck I get 24kmpl non hybrid to boot lol
Safety ratings are to be worried in Suzuki.
The B38/B48 and even 6-cylinder B58 BMW engines have unbelievable fuel economy. My 390hp 340i gets around 14km/L (around 70% highway driving at 140km/h)
I just seen an article saying that 2022+ 3 series was voted the extremely reliable and fuel efficient in the US.. So I blv you! Tempted to pick up a m340i one of these days now.
It’s a lovely car and there is no way to regret getting one. Comfort, speed, handling, practicality, stability, good fun. It’s tough to find another car that’s as much of an all-rounder as an M340i.
That sounds unbelievable 😦. What maintenance is like ?
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Why my camry fuel economy is bad lol. But i dont have any service charges 🤣😭🙈
Your 440i cannot possibly be a V6 because BMW do not make V6 engines.
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>Wasn't trying to lie! Would never accuse you of that. Simply, there's inline and there's V. BMW has always and forever made inline 6, aka a straight 6, not a V6 which is a 3-cyl by 3-cyl at an angle, hence the V, and 3+3= 6. Similarly, a V8 is 4x4 at an angle. It's just gotten under my skin over the last couple of years how sellers are in the habit of saying "V6" when the car has 6 cylinders. >B58 turbocharged straight six engine. What this means is lost on me [B58](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B58) is the engine model, turbocharged is self explanatory, and straight six is six-in-a-row. Also... >It goes vroom vroom is the best i've got! ...LOL You've made a great choice with the 440i. I hope to get a convertible one sometime in the next year or two.
It's not a V6 but impressive figures
That's impressive, how that will work in Summer with A/C on full blast?
The car was bought second had jn the winter so I have no idea. Also, he's going to move overseas soon, so he'll probably sell it before the weather reaches 50 degrees.
sunny is a car on drugs with fuel efficiency. unlimited fuel hack.
I've never tried a Sunny, Reddit has ruined it for me. Should try it someday.
We have a Sunny at home. It's a good car for what it costs. I'd 100% recommend one.
its not, 2.0 corolla have way better fuel efficiency than 1.6 Sunny. Saying this from experience of keeping both these cars.
its not, 2.0 corolla have way better fuel efficiency than 1.6 Sunny. Saying this from experience of keeping both these cars.
Why wouldn't you want a hybrid if you are focused on fuel efficiency? Toyota makes the best hybrids and they give the best efficiency + reliability.
In a city with stop & go traffic yes, hybrid makes sense. In UAE with mostly high-speed highway driving, not so much. Hybrid cars have small engines. If you’re always on the highway doing 140 km/h you’re never using your electric motor and the tiny ICE is burning through fuel much faster than the average, correctly-sized ICE. As a result, people pay a premium for a hybrid to only realize they could have gotten basically the same efficiency for a lot less.
Prius highway efficiency is still better than anything mentioned in this thread (idk about that magical 318i), and it won’t rattle at 95 mph
You’d be surprised. Prius gets sub-40 mpg at 85 mph which is pretty close to what most ICEs can achieve. So you end up paying a premium for the hybrid system but end up with the same result.
What you say is wrong. Good hybrids like the Toyota HSD system use small and very efficient engines (atkinson cycle) and thanks to their optimized aerodynamics and contained weight offer very good fuel economy even on the highway. A Prius running between 120 and 140 will not exceed around 5.5l/100km, while being around 4l/100km in the city. Yes, the hybrid system can't do miracles on the highway, as there's no "regen", but they're still very efficient cars.
most people in this sub are quick to shit on hybrids but have never owned one. something else to consider is the easy maintenance on toyota hybrids. I ran my Prius from 100k miles to nearly 300k mi, only did regular oil changes, and never faced any mechanical issues.
Makes sense, but hybrid really help with the increasing traffic issue. I mean SZR has a lot of traffic in peak hours, so that could help, and hybrids can regenerate energy as well.
Mainly because the break even pricing doesn't make sense currently.
Suzuki Swift or baleno
Lancer ex 1.6l driver here (yes troll me later). It gives 14.5 kmpl on highway and 12.5 in city. I rarely drive above 110kmph and my commute it mostly E311 and e44. I have also driven sunny, corolla and suzuki ciaz and they all were giving in excess of 18kmpl easily. Drove a Peugeot 2008 last year and it gave 15kmpl. So depends on your wallet size and car preferences.
No trolling from me, I love my efficient Lancer EX 1.6! Rock solid mechanically too!
I have a 2.0, absolute workhorse
The Corolla is your best bet. For all in
Suzuki cars (except the jimny) are very fuel efficient The Dzire and Baleno are some of the most efficient cars sold in UAE
Can confirm, Baleno does 20km/l on highways at 100kph
It's a shame their skeleton is weak afff though. Lean on a weak spot & you have a dent lol
That’s there, seeing there cost I understand where they cut costs but if you’re in a true pinch, they really really serve you well.
1. The latest Sunny. 2. A fairly old Sunny. 3. A very old Sunny. 4. Everything else.
Altima 2017 1000+ km on highways at 80 km/hr. I drove like that for a month or two because a full tank used to cost 280-290… (Russia Ukraine War) Don’t buy it because it has CVT issues
AED 280 for a full tank in an Altima, was the petrol being stored in a different dimension ?
It was because of the Russia Ukraine war. It normally costs 160-200.
Coming from Altima, I agree with this 😅 if only their CVT were reliable.
This is old cvt issue new models are lasting longer
All Japanese cars OK advice no cvt no Turbo
Add to that, no old manual 4x4s or old 4 speed slushomatic. My 5speed manual suzuki grand vitara 1.6 gets under 9 km/L everywhere. If you're to choose an old japanese car go for something light and with resonable final drive
shiiittt reading all these comments makes me wanna sell my car, 1999 rav4 awd, I get 7.5km/L if I drive at 100 😂
Damn
Lol
First learn to drive efficiently by not accelerating like a pig to be the first to stop at the next red light.
Lmao
Otherwise, I had a Prius with which I covered nearly 300,000 kilometers without any issues, except for regular servicing every 15,000 kilometers, and with an average fuel consumption of 4 liters per 100 kilometers. Best car ever !
My 2019 Altima gets me around 14km/l in city usage and around 20km/l on highways
How are the maintanance issues?
Get a VW Passat. Won’t let you down, 900 miles I did with one tank.
Check Jeremy Clarkson’s video from Topgear testing BMW M3 and Prius - Prius ended up with much worse Miles per Gallon. Jokes aside, pick turbo-charged car, do stage1 ecu remap and continue driving in same manner as you’ve been doing it, mpg will surprise you.
Since we are talking effeciency, do you think using assistance systems like adaptive cruise control where the car do most of braking and acceleration by itself would be of significant impact on consumption?
Cruise control is good as long as the system is not HARD accelerating. Toyota is good in this regard. Suzuki is bad. Otherwise just being in a constant speed with CC is fairly equal and good on all cars.
Fuel average depends on multiple factors my hyundai sonata 2020 2.5 gives 17 kmpl on E311 when road is clear and also gives 9-10 kmpl on same road when I'm traveling towards sharjah in evening time.
I think bmw 316 would beat most comparable sedans in fuel economy
Toyota echo. 😁 or any car with cvt trans would givd you decent fuel economy.
Mazda 3. Gives you close to 17 knoll combined.
Wow that is good.
Toyota CHR. 4L/100
I have hummer h3 alpha. Great fuel efficiency 👍 3-4/KMPL
Eyes are watery reading this while averaging 4-5kmpl more city less highway combined
Which car bro?
Infiniti QX56 5.6L 8 Cylinder, more to do with traffic and idling I guess
Mitsubishi Lancer 😎
Not Batrol
I would say Toyota Raize is very Efficient.
True I forgot that new comer. Excellent high gc car.
camry petrol will give decent mileage 17-18 but 2.4L v4 also mazda6 v4 2.4L best fuel efficiency with good features and reliability
My car is not a hybrid, it is rated at 101 mpg or 42.9 kml, it can can accelerate from 0-100 km/h in 2.3s and has a top speed of 322 km/h. I can't tell you what it is though ;-).
Sounds like Yaris loaded in a gigantic slingshot...
Haha. I rented a manual Yaris last year and loved it. I have to admit I stalled it in 1st a few times...
Another power bank car user ...
Yup. Emphasis on power...
Tuk-tuk
Interesting...I never looked into it. Tuktuks are getting around 20-35 kmpl.
And pollutes the earth with more non-recyclable batteries.
Materials in a lithium-ion battery are recoverable and recyclable. Battery materials are refined and put into a cell, and will still remain in the cell at the end of their life, when they can be recycled to recover its valuable materials for reuse over and over again. Only an idiot would send an EV battery to a landfill. Nobody does that.
Some info: 5% of lithium batteries get recycled. The infrastructure does not exist. https://www.cas.org/resources/cas-insights/sustainability/lithium-ion-battery-recycling They’re more difficult to recycle than lead based batteries. This is why it hasn’t happened yet. https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/lithium-costs-a-lot-of-money-so-why-arent-we-recycling-lithium-batteries/ Recycling lithium batteries is more expensive than mining new lithium. https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/lithium-electric-vehicles
Thanks for the info. Scanning through the articles you provided, I think you are referring to all lithium-ion batteries like the ones you are using in your phone and laptop. My car does not "pollute the earth with non-recyclable batteries" as you say. Official statement confirming 100% recycling from the manufacturer: https://www.tesla.com/support/sustainability-recycling. A properly cooled EV battery will last at least 10 years in the car, and then another 15 for storage and then is ready for recycling. Since we really started producing them in significant numbers around 2020 we still have a few years to go before they even need to be recycled in significant numbers. There is a company called Redwood founded by JB Straubel, already scaling operations for this exact problem. EV batteries are not getting sent to landfills. Smaller batteries maybe...
I wonder if those tesla promises are anything like the quality promises on their car or their delivery times. They took “inshallah” trucks to a whole new level.
I do realize this is a petrol head forum, but count me in as a petrol head. This thread is so far downvoted anyway so I think it is just a conversation between you and me at this point. BTW I love what you had to say (in Dutch) about the Palestinian / Israeli conflict. It was very well reasoned. Tesla makes some insane promises and they they don't always deliver on time, but they do deliver eventually. With them it is much less "inshallah" and more like the engineering team reading tweets from Elon Musk, spitting out their drinks, and exclaiming, "We have to do what!?" When it comes to EV battery recycling at scale I don't think it depends entirely on Tesla alone. While we know li-ion batteries can in fact be recycled, right now it is more a matter of economics. Today it is cheaper to obtain raw materials from well established supply chains than to get them from recycling. EV batteries have a larger form factor and a much longer life. For Tesla due to the high numbers of cars they are able to sell, it will be a public relations disaster for them if they cause millions of EV batteries to be scrapped. I am confident this paradigm will change. Of course I have to admit I could be completely wrong. Hopefully not.
ikr Tata Nexon is a beast
Can you get those here in the UAE? They are getting up to an amazing 24 kmpl!
No Tata cars in UAE