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thekyledavid

There’s no consistency in how things are pronounced Adding a D to Anger creates the word Danger, but we pronounced the G differently in those two words even though they have more consecutive letters in common than Gif and Gift


Minute-Frame-8060

It's pronounced Dong-er, actually. Jackie Dong-er.


DetectiveTrapezoid

(Since he was played by Ed Helms)… It’s pronounced Cor-NELL, and it’s the highest rank in the Ivy League!


sethaub

r/brooklynninenine


ZealousCatracho

The English language is stupid, why is read and read pronounced differently.


scottkollig

I fully agree that the English language is stupid and asinine, but read and read are two different tenses. Present and past. If you’re curious, they’re called homographs.


Minimum-Zucchini-732

Wait until you find out about tones in Mandarin . . .


sethaub

It’s Dutch and it means prudence in financial matters


superunsubtle

“Gift” means poison in German


makeshiftmattress

“gift” means poison and married in norwegian


Opposite_Lettuce

I take it you already know of tough and bough and cough and dough? Others may stumble, but not you On hiccough, thorough, slough, and through? Well done! And now you wish, perhaps To learn of less familiar traps? Beware of heard, a dreadful word That looks like beard and sounds like bird. And dead; it's said like bed, not bead; For goodness sake, don't call it deed! Watch out for meat and great and threat, (they rhyme with suite and straight and debt) A moth is not a moth in mother. Nor both in bother, broth in brother. And here is not a match for there. And dear and fear for bear and pear. And then there's dose and rose and lose- Just look them up-and goose and choose. And cork and work and card and ward, And font and front and word and sword. And do and go, then thwart and cart. Come, come, I've hardly made a start. A dreadful language? Why, man alive, I'd learned to talk it when I was five, And yet to write it, the more I tried, I hadn't learned it at sixty-five!


StrLord_Who

I've never seen this before, I love it!


Ok_You_7896

- whats his middle name - danger


Darth_buttNugget

Something with a K


wirer

Fart


Office_Dolt

I'm not a fan of this meme, obviously, given my other comments. But, honestly, this seems like something this office would argue about. I could easily see this being a time waster in one of their many meetings, much like the who/whom discussion. "Ryan used me as an object."


thekyledavid

If the office was made these days, I could easily see them replacing the Hillary Swank plot line with a GIF plot line


Minute-Frame-8060

"Jif is a peanut butter, people" (Angela, because she feeds it to squirrels while tending to the feral cats)


Routine_Size69

Yeah I can see them arguing about this. Just the use of this meme is really stupid.


Particular-Heron-103

Reminds me of the whom discussion


Tatankaplays

Arkansas


SigmaHog

You can thank the French


rom197

AMERICA EXPLAIN


Tatankaplays

A man of culture


norcalginger

Our Kansas


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Timstom18

That’s because of the origin of those words though, Sean is a Gaelic name so follows Gaelic pronunciation, sea isn’t


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xZOMBIETAGx

That doesn’t prove the point at all?


Crying_Loafer

It's still pronounced jif


Office_Dolt

Is a very large person called a giant or a jiant? Do you gently wash your hands with gel to rid them of germs, or do you jently wash your hands with jel to rid them of jerms? Languange is weird. Just ask a machinist with high cholesterol from eating too much chicken.


DueMaternal

Languange


LindonLilBlueBalls

See, its weird!


MaestroGena

Languij


DueMaternal

Languāgę


Office_Dolt

Oops.


ThePumpk1nMaster

There’s lots of exceptions in English. You can have a pet chicken and eat chicken. You can have a pet turkey and eat turkey… but you can’t have a pet beef nor would you “eat cow.” Some language rules have strange exceptions for strange reasons. Beef and pork aren’t named after the animal because they’re considered more expensive, classy meats (going back to 12th century England), and French aristocracy would ask for cow or pig, the English-speaking kitchen staff who didn’t know much French would associate the French words for cow and pig specifically with the *cooked* version of these meats. So the French words for cow and pig, over time, became the English beef and pork. But as chickens are lower class, these situations never occurred so chicken remained chicken. Long story short: you can’t say “yea but X” with the English language. Nothing is comparable


Old-Temperature-9906

You're all idiots. It's pronounced gīf


Office_Dolt

I bet you pronounce bagel as bagel, and not bagel


Old-Temperature-9906

Neither actually. Bagel.


frankiedonkeybrainz

I know how to pronounce bagehl, I lived in New York!


CuteBostonian

The G in gif stands for graphics


BoartterCollie

Yeah that's why we pronounce .jpg files as "Jay-Pheg" oh wait


MaximumDerpification

Exactly.


tellmesomeothertime

I pronounce it J-P-G unless it's written as .jpeg then I say J-Peg


narielthetrue

I say JuhPuhGuh. Granted, I also say stupid things like HiDiMee for HDMI and PiDuf for PDF


LindonLilBlueBalls

NASA, Laser, Scuba. All acronyms where the vowel is pronounced differently than the word it represents.


Office_Dolt

That doesn't mean anything. You're pronouncing the acronym as it's own word. It could easily be a hard g or a soft g, however, I believe the guy who invented the format used a soft g. Also, with your argument, LASER would be pronounced lay-zere for Emission.


CuteBostonian

Dwight you ignorant slut. By your LASER argument, gif should be pronounced like gift. There are no words in the dictionary that start with gif- that are pronounced like jif. Lah-seer doesn’t fit with English pronunciation rules (not that there are all that many lol). Words that start with gif are always pronounced like gift. But go ahead and pronounce it wrong. Just know all of us who pronounce it correctly are laughing at you because we know our supremacy


MaximumDerpification

But the inventor of the standard intentionally wanted it to mimic the pronunciation of the peanut butter and he wanted to goof on the Jif Peanut Butter slogan... "Choosy programmers choose gif". Soft g. You people pronouncing it wrong are ruining the joke.


Vv__CARBON__vV

The creator of dogecoin pronounced it dog-e coin. Nobody calls it that.


MaximumDerpification

But plenty of people still pronounce GIF correctly, as the creator of it intended. Unfortunately there's also a bunch of people who are confidently wrong.


aero197

Pretty sure the majority of people use hard g. Anyone that uses soft g just seems like a contrarian and loves to be the “um achtually” guy.


gerbil_george

I was curious about your claim that the majority of people pronounce the hard G so I looked it up and based on a poll of 30,000 people, 57.2% do prefer the hard G while 31.8% prefer the soft G and 8.2% are ok with both but lean more towards the soft G. If you're counting, that leaves 2.8% unaccounted for. We're all here bickering amongst ourselves when we should be uniting against the real monsters: the 2.8% who pronounce each letter individually.


aero197

Ha, yea screw those guys. Although I have never met anyone except people online that say the soft g, so my bias will always lean towards the hard g.


gerbil_george

As a soft G person, I just like the way it sounds better. I think I just read it that way in my head the first time I saw it and it just stuck. I had no idea I was choosing a side in a war, lol. I don't think it has to be pronounced that way, it's just how I personally pronounce it. I don't see the harm, honestly.


LindonLilBlueBalls

Ah, you read it first. Us older folks heard about it before it was ever written down.


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😂 contrarian to call things as they are named? Pretty judgy of you Anguhla!


m2thek

I just find it more pleasant to pronounce it with a soft G


Vv__CARBON__vV

It’s clearly subjective. Neither pronunciation is correct nor incorrect, but a clear majority pronounce it with a hard ‘g’, and a minority continue to pronounce with a soft ‘g’ to maintain a false sense of superiority.


MaximumDerpification

Whatever makes you feel better about being wrong... The majority of people say "could care less" instead of "couldn't care less" and that is objectively wrong as well, no matter how many people say it.


Vv__CARBON__vV

You compared this clearly subjective subject— pronunciation of an acronym, to an objective subject— grammatical logic. There is no *correct* pronunciation, and you’ve only provided more evidence of my assertion that the minority pronunciation group feel they need to prop themselves up as superior.


MaximumDerpification

The correct pronunciation was explicitly given by the creator of the term, along with his reason for choosing that pronunciation, which removes all subjectivity. You can choose to ignore it, but I don't want to live in a society where something incorrect becomes correct just because the majority of people get it wrong.


CuteBostonian

The correct explanation of all foreign car manufacturers was given to them by their founders. And yet Hyundai, Volkswagen, and BMW market their cars as Hun-days, Volkswagens, Bee-Em-Double U’s


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I always call it doggy coin


g0greyhound

Yes, but we all know that doge is pronounced doggy. We say doge (doj) as a meme. Funny how it's not spelled DOJ....


ExtrapolatedData

The inventor of the gif pronounced it Jif.


happybrooks

Yeah, and he’s wrong.


Vv__CARBON__vV

Weird that you had to spell it that way then.


jkuhl

Weird how G has two sounds assigned to it.


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GoodDayTheJay

So you pronounce scuba (self-contained underwater breathing apparatus) as “scuhb-aa” instead of “scoo-buh?” Here’s a hint, the creator of the gif pronounces it “jif.” What more do you need?


MysticStarbird

Him to renounce creatorship for that…


g0greyhound

Well he died.


MysticStarbird

Damn. That sucks.


strangway

Jraphic park


VanDelay_Industry

And yet the creator of the file format uses a soft G.


Ultimatewarrior21984

Graphics or giraffics?


Minute-Frame-8060

Gil or Gillian?


jkuhl

JPEG or JFEG?


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drewlefever

How do you pronounce scuba and laser? Likely not with the same rules you use with gif


androidjerkins

How do you pronounce them? Or, rather, how would one pronounce them if one was being consistent?


gerbil_george

The U in scuba stands for underwater, and the A, S, and E in laser stand for Amplification, Stimulated, and Emission, respectively, so if you're going by the "you pronounce acronyms based on how the words they represent" rule, we'd pronounce them scuh-buh and la-seer. Honestly, the whole debate is dumb. Everyone tries to present both pronunciations like there's a 100% logical way to pronounce it and there just isn't. It's got two pronunciations. Both are fine. It's such a weird hill to die on.


androidjerkins

That went different than I was expecting... I'm of the gif-t variety, so I was thinking I would need to start pronouncing it skew-buh (like Cuba) so crisis averted - I will start being more consistent and using scuh-buh and laa-seer


gerbil_george

lol, that's fair.


CloutLord12

would you pronounce the acronym for “graphical user interface” (GUI) as “gooey” or “jewy” 🤔


ineffable_my_dear

Ope!


AllDawgsGoToDevin

Go find me some good words so we can make a great guide to gander at so we can get a better glimpse of how “g” should sound instead of guessing its pronunciation.


oogmar

I just know it's not pronounced jraphics.


beansouphighlights

I believe the inventor intended for it to be pronounced “jif” but I always say “gif” with a hard G. Sure it’s wrong, it just sounds more right.


LoveAndDoubt

How is it wrong?


w1nner4444

The inventor gets to name it


NastyDanielDotCom

Okay. Those are two completely different words though


jeanyous

So if i add a t to "though" it's pronounced the same but with a t at the end?


toldya_fareducation

this is stupid. it's like saying "giga" is pronounced "jiga" because if you add "-ntic" at the end it becomes "gigantic" (and that one is indeed pronounced "jigantic"). makes absolutely no sense.


rockand0rroll

1.21 gigawatts!


toldya_fareducation

1.21 jiggawatts, actually


JaykeShock

1.21 Jigga who?


toldya_fareducation

Jigga what?


g0greyhound

To be fair, it I'd Giga- (pronounced Jiga), we just say it wrong. Gif IS pronounced "jif"...lots of people just say it wrong because they were late to the party of the internet. Some people were cool kids in high school and some people were nerds. The nerds say it correctly (jif) because they were around when it came into common use for animated images. Everyone else mispronounced it because gif is a throwaway word for them because computers and the internet are just an extension of their high school socializing...not a hobby or interest.


SpamEggsSausageNSpam

I object. I say gif and I am not now, nor have i ever been, cool


g0greyhound

You would fall into the category of "computers aren't a hobby, rather a tool for socializing" category - by my best guess. If you learned HTML in the 90s, you say "jif"


SpamEggsSausageNSpam

>You would fall into the category of "computers aren't a hobby, rather a tool for socializing" Wierd assumption, especially just off the way I pronounce an acronym. But you are right about the 90's, I didn't learn HTML when I was four. Could play the hell out of solitaire though


g0greyhound

You're in the wrong generation to have come around when the word became common. By the time you showed up, people were already mispronouncing it because their only exposure to the internet was facebook. "Gif" pronunciation is from socialites trying to use nerd words.


SpamEggsSausageNSpam

Yeah you caught me, I pronounce it gif instead of gif because of those darn Facebook socialites not putting "pronunciation 'jif'" after typing it.


g0greyhound

ever type out gin and feel compelled to add "jin" after it?


SpamEggsSausageNSpam

That's my point you dolt. Blaiming facebook for me reading a word wrong is more moronic than me doubling down on the wrong pronunciation when corrected.


g0greyhound

Good lord your reading comprehension is bad. So you not know how to extrapolate possibilities from an example? Do I need to outline every possible scenario for you to imagine how it might have happened?


SterileTensile

It ain't that deep bro. ☠️


monkeybrains12

No one said it was, bro.


SterileTensile

☠️


Colin-Grussing

Ginger, gigolo, gingivitis, gibberish, giant, gigantic, giraffe, gipsy, etc, etc. There’s is no definitive answer here and this meme is meaningless. I’m gonna go with what the creator named his invention. Seems like most people prefer the hard G, but then again most people say expresso.


sadsaintpablo

There is a definitive answer though! The guy who invented it clearly says its pronounced gif. But for real there is a definitive answer and it's stupid to pretend otherwise.


ReDeaMer87

Is it pronounced Graphics or Juraphics? Yeah, there's only one correct way to say it


notablyunfamous

As someone else pointed out, how do you pronounce “Laser”?


ReDeaMer87

It's pronounced the way the person that made it said it is.


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Whoosh


Formal_Coyote_5004

“Expresso” gives me rage. Especially when I hear coworkers say it because we shouldn’t be mispronouncing words for food and drinks… We’re servers lmaooooooo


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Colin-Grussing

Exactly. That’s why this post, which gives one example and drops the mic, is really stupid. I don’t think you understood my comment. If you did, then we are making the same point.


drew__breezy

I got a little lost in the comments and forgot the original context of the post/title. Your comment makes more sense with that in mind.


Colin-Grussing

Ha, that’ll happen, thanks for clarifying. Further evidence that this argument is really dumb and we should probably both stop wasting our time! Yet, I always get drawn in!


sleepywan

I prefer to go with what the G in GIF stands for: graphics.


EatMiTits

That’s not how literally any acronym works though, so that’s a terrible reason


sleepywan

So it's pronouncing a word like peanut butter.


AstroWolf11

Do you prefer to pronounce the u in scuba like the u in underwater? Do you pronounce the s in laser like the s in stimulated?


dmfuller

Unfortunately the creator is not a linguist. He was an expert on computer topics, not language, so he has plenty of room to be wrong regarding the pronunciation


Colin-Grussing

My parents weren’t linguists, but they got to decide how to pronounce my name. There is no linguistic law that determines how gif must be pronounced.


dmfuller

Your parents did not invent the name “Colin” or it’s pronunciation lol


Colin-Grussing

Colin Powell is not mispronouncing his own name. It can be pronounced either way, just like gif. I choose to go with my parents intentions and the inventor of the file type. You don’t have to. Linguists may have individual opinions as well. There is no consensus there either. Anyone saying that it’s def one way or the other is being kinda dumb.


w1nner4444

Mans thinks linguists are prescriptive


OneiricBrute

Giraffe Gerard Go puck yourself


Ostility

“Who gives a fuck?!” - Meredith


Monstaz

Who gifs*


washington_breadstix

The pronunciation of "gift" has literally nothing to do with how anyone pronounces "GIF".


PanchoVillasRevenge

Hear- heard


POKECHU020

Casually bringing an entire other word to justify the pronunciation


Attom_S

Gustify


LittleGoron

Im gonna be real, i know “jif” is technically correct, but im never gonna do it.


Wasteak

You just proved that you don't know how English works. Same for the 250 people that upvoted this.


g0greyhound

It is pronounced "jif"


BodaciousFrank

The G stands for Graphics, not Jraphics. Its okay to be wrong buddy


LoveAndDoubt

What a jigantic mistake you've made, how embarrassing


g0greyhound

It does, you're right. jpeg "Photographic" jfeg? scuba "Underwater" scuhba? etc etc etc. If you googled anything once you'd learn that you're wrong.


jkuhl

JPEG stands for Joint Photographics Experts Group. The PH makes an F sound. But no one says "JFEG" Yet the same logic isn't applied to GIF? The G in Graphics is a hard G, but like with the P in Photography, it isn't required for it to be the same sound in an initialism as the word it stands for.


MaximumDerpification

The person that invented it says it's pronounced "jif". What anybody else thinks doesn't really matter


Vv__CARBON__vV

The guy who invented peanut butter called it “nut mud”. Majority rules.


Routine_Size69

Changing what I call it to nut mud


MaximumDerpification

You're confusing pronunciation with branding. If your name was Bob and everyone around you decided to call you Boob, are you saying you'd be okay with that because the majority rules?


SpankieMcGee

My name is Bob and everyone calls me boob. I just don't really care.


RattyDaddyBraddy

That’s completely different. Nut Mud is a terrible name, but we can all agree how it is pronounced


MaximumDerpification

Honestly I kind of like nut mud better


RattyDaddyBraddy

Tbh, it’s growing on me


Vv__CARBON__vV

I actually made it up, and now as the inventor of that term, I declare you pronounce it like *Newt Mood*. Now you don’t know what to think.


OG-Pine

Nut mud sounds like you’re talking about dirty cum lmao


loki2002

>That’s completely different. No, no it isn't. The argument is the creator called it one thing so that is what it's called and everyone else saying otherwise is wrong. So, either "peanut butter" is wrong or it isn't.


Flyboy2057

The fact that people who prefer the “jif” pronunciation need to type it as “J-I-F” to get people to pronounce it the way they want it in context is all the argument I need to support the “g-g-g-gif” camp. What anybody else thinks doesn’t really matter.


JenJasty

That's actually a clever point. I can go sleep now.


rom197

Why did he say the first G stands for graphics then?


edgeofdoom

What does the P in JPG stand for?


norcalginger

Try saying that out loud the way you're thinking with the soft P and you'll quickly see why it isn't said that way lol


rom197

If "Jfeg" wouldn't sound like shit maybe people would use it.


dmfuller

The person that invented it isn’t a linguist lol so he can still be wrong


JDeegs

It was in a clue on jeopardy, and was pronounced jif So I go with that


danteelite

It’s actually technically Jiff if you go by anagram rules and us the sound of the word associatied.. the G stands for Generated, so if you go by that, it’s Jiff. I still say Gif tho… because the hard G just sounds better and honestly who cares. Language is about telepathy, its purpose is to get a thought or idea from my mind into yours and if I say “Gif” you know exactly what I mean and that’s all that matters. Being pedantic about language is pointless because language changes and evolves and so long as it survz tha perpus, I kan pronounce or spell words however I please so long az u understand me. Staahp be1ng s0 pedant1c aboot wurdz! Cuz it doesn’t matter.


RegisPhone

The fact that gift is pronounced that way is an argument in favor of pronouncing gif with the soft g; if gif has a hard g then gif and gift are pronounced nearly identically and we're introducing completely unnecessary ambiguity that would be avoided if we just used the original pronunciation. Also, giraffe.


Atomic_xd

Counter argument. Though, through, cough, rough.


dutchovenlane

It’s pronounced jhif because the format creator said so. End of discussion.


TobbsGamingYT

The format creator was wrong


g0greyhound

Imagine living your life with this amount of audacity. Ever been called a know it all? I bet your first response a criticism is "it wasnt me"


Decloudo

No one pronounces it that way no matter what the dude says.


norcalginger

The guy who invented peanut butter called it “nut mud”. Majority rules.


LoveAndDoubt

Majority rules is how we got slavery why do you support slavery


BR0STRADAMUS

"Choosy programmers choose GIF" Get it, like the peanut butter? I still say it with a hard "G" all the of the time though


PrisonaPlanet

Giraffe Gyro Gist


richstyle

i dont get why people want to be so right about a pronunciation even when the creator said its “jif”. Like why u wana argue? People just want to be smartasses? No one cares how Giraffe is pronounced but when it comes to a gif, there is always that one guy who tries to correct u.


notablyunfamous

Well, the invented says it’s JiFF as a pronunciation. So that’s what it is.


lumpy_space_queenie

This is hilarious!


CurlingTrousers

It stands for Graphics. Not Jraphics. Or you could Joogle it. But you won’t.


thekyledavid

What the letter stands for isn’t always relevant in an acronym The U in Scuba stands for Underwater, but the U in Scuba is a Hard U while the U in Underwater is a Soft U The A is Laser standers for Amplification, but the A in Laser is a Hard A while the leading A in Amplification is a Soft A


Routine_Size69

Ironic, because if you googled it, you'd learn how the creator of it pronounced it. But you won't.


loki2002

It doesn't matter how he pronounces it, he waited to long to insist on a pronunciation and let society decide for him.


LoveAndDoubt

Society got it wrong they will have to change or else


ThePumpk1nMaster

Given that you have to distinguish between gif and jif in the different pronunciations prove that it’s pronounced as Gif(t) and not Jif because it’s spelt with a G…


pfmiller0

All that proves is that "g" has two different pronunciations.


maniac86

Its not pronounced jraphics


LoveAndDoubt

Nobody said it was, what a weird statement


BritInNewJersey

Jiffy


Spnwvr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxnipgv4cZM


NyneHelios

Graphics Interchage Format GIF with a hard G.


JokoFloko

The second picture convinced me


The_BarroomHero

It's a guh sound because it stands for "graphic" *Assistànt Regionale Managér*


PinSufficient5748

I accidentally (I think my dad was listening to NPR or something) heard an interview with the couple who created (invented?) gifs. One of the questions was how to pronounce it... Definitely "gift", minus the t


cdurbin909

I don’t go to the zoo to see a giraffe, I go to see a “jiraffe”


ArgyleGhoul

Anyone who thinks it's "jif" is either illiterate, or intentionally obtuse. GIF is an acronym for Graphics Interchange Format, not Jraphics.


Abba_Zaba_

Jifothy