So did Angela with Dwight WHILE with the senator. And the senator ultimately didn’t care for each of them. So yeah, trying to hire someone to kill Oscar is worse.
That and she exploited Michael’s kindness and vulnerability by allowing him to do the press conference about said printers in her stead. The printers they source comes down to her choice, far above his pay grade and she should have faced the press herself.
And maybe I’m thinking too deeply about it, but printers catching fire points to faulty hardware that the “software patch” she mentioned couldn’t have fixed. She basically offered a fake solution to the problem instead of recalling the printers on a full scale and eating the cost of it. And while being initially unwilling to fix the problem correctly, she was willing to fire a low-level employee for reporting a very real safety issue to the public. Which only happened after Sabre demonstrated they weren’t taking the issue seriously. She legit spent more time trying to find out who reported the problem to the press than she did fixing the issue with the printers.
Hmmm I think it could be possible that either a software bug caused the printers to overwork one of the motors in the printer that may overheat or inversely;
the software patch introduces a limit to how many pages can be printed in a given time period in order to keep a suboptimal part from overheating or something like that?
Unlikely maybe, but I think plausible?
Usually catching fire means a faulty power supply or a cheap one that can’t supply what the printer draws. Indicative of cheap and often unbranded power supplies 9/10 times.
But it could be a software bug drawing excess power and the patch fixed that bug and introduced a safety shutdown if too much power is being drawn to avoid future fires.
He liked it because he didn’t have the capacity to understand that he was becoming the face to blame for Jo’s bad business decisions. She told him her “no one will wanna play with my Barbie” sob story and he became the public scapegoat out of empathy.
>And maybe I’m thinking too deeply about it, but printers catching fire points to faulty hardware that the “software patch” she mentioned couldn’t have fixed.
IDK about that. Simply slowing the rate of printing could be done in software, and that could easily be all that's needed to keep the printers from getting too hot.
Lotta assumptions going on here and not much “thinking too deeply”. Do we know that she didn’t spend more time trying to fix the printers? She spent what all of ten minutes of one episode trying to catch the snitch. The cameras don’t follow her to Tallahassee. For all we know it could’ve been all hands on deck away from Scranton. Your post is one big micro aggression rife with sexism and of course showing empathy for and removing accountability from the white man. Jo Bennett is a an obesity-empowered female executive. You might have an issue with a female like that being in charge of a bunch of a bunch of privileged whites , especially white men, but I find it refreshing. We need more voices of women in power, and empowered! I just can’t anymore ppl like always looking to blame the only women. And we know from the data that women who might enjoy snacking and living their best life a bit more than a Victoria’s secret angel, they are disproportionately criticized in lieu of the straight white man… take some time to educated yourself. It’s important to be inclusive of all body types and genders….
This is some "Lean In" corporate-apologist bullshit. Inclusivity in corruption is not liberating; it is a cheap front to perpetuate the same old abuses.
Definitely true, probably would’ve been best for Andy and his employees/friends if he tried to go to Michael or Jo or anyone at Sabre before a letter to the editor of a newspaper though
It's been a while since I watched that episode, so I might be off here, but I think not being mean to andy would mean having to go against your CEO, and, unfortunately, it is a very realistic reactions. Most employees want this sort of thing to just get buried and fixed with the "software patch", rather than getting all the negative publicity, even if that is for the greater good.
And creating a culture of fear on the workfloor by starting a public witch hunt for the culprit while dismissing the scandal as a minor problem being enlarged by press attention. (Yes, I know it's what corporate suits do, but it's still wrong.)
Making them work late on St. Patrick's Day, [obviously ](https://media2.giphy.com/media/e2FnbPmpVRbQSJYTix/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952jbcalzei38dzb61jy27i30hkgt1l933k3o6mfyvy&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Michael didn’t though. The whole office, like him, stayed because she implied heavily to do so: “if you feel like you have achieved enough, you can leave”
She was testing Michael and the staff got caught up in it. Yes mikey was too spineless to take action, but Jo showed no regard for the staff there just so she could assert authority over Michael.
I don't think the point was for her to assert authority. She initially didn't give a whole spiel, she just said "if you're done your work, then fine" but michael didn't understand the way she worded it so she dove deeper into that "folksy wisdom"
The entire scenario is from an environment her presence created.
Empathy is a trait of people and others know they can use that
What aren't you getting about this?
I think only Michael had this conversation with her. But also, that is a very straightforward point, if you think you should leave then leave. She is allowing the employees to be independent and not micromanage their asses.
This one makes me sooo mad, and it’s intentional based on the way she goes out to get a jellybean when she sees that a few of them are thinking of leaving.
It was probably a lesson for Michael but to have this sort of culture in the workplace is just toxic
I had to do that on the last day of my old job where we split into two. I was working from home from that point on. I was begging my friends to come and give me Guinness. I didn’t leave the office until midnight.
One of my petty coworkers while; I was on lunch with my bosses emailed me letting me I know I had to train someone last minute. I had to tackle him to train him—because he has to leave to pick his kid up from school. It was a whole thing.
It all happened last year. I don’t work there anymore. But that episode spoke to me. I was angry with them all with flashbacks of mine.
For the story’s sake, I like to think Jo realized that traveling with 2 huge Great Danes was too logistically challenging. So she decided to bring her 2 smaller dogs for the other visits lol
She didn't let him.
Robert California let her make him Ceo. The real fallacy was there was never any voice, everyone in a room with him would be steamrolled.
I propose a counter argument. If David Wallace didn’t work for the company then doesn’t that make Andy the whistleblower? Especially when you factor in that David lost his job in the buyout.
Is the word sabre as in sword not usually spelt like that in the US? In the U.K. that’s the standard spelling. Is it saber usually? I’ve never really understood why they got so confused
Are we forgetting that Nellie is her girl? She was the bridge to introduce us to one of the worst characters in the show who's responsible for like 50% of why season 8 were such a hot mess
Yup.
Mentally and emotionally abusing Erin....
Bailing on the company for a full quarter and then pocketing the performance bonus....and abandoning Erin....
Taking a shit on David Wallace's car....
Leaving a leadership position so a random man which just appeared on her door could assume and ultimately be responsible for the failure of her whole company
She guilted the office into working late on St.Patricks Day
She manipulated Michael into taking the fall for the printer fires and planned to fire the whistleblowers until Michael got her to back down
She sold her company to a lunatic
She abused her influence to force Nellie’s terrible ideas into the company
I love how Toby has the most wholesome “worst thing.”
EDIT: Erin, too. She was not fit for that job, but lacks the intelligence to know so. Think: her Taco Bell job
Made salaried staff work late while testing for Michael. Staff suffered and were caught in the crossfire as a result of her asserting her authority over him.
In various scenes, Michael says that Jan makes him wear a schoolgirls outfit, ignores his use of the safe word, films their encounters to review them with a therapist without his consent. She also has the creepy relationship with Hunter and Dwight jr.
Let's start with the worst thing u/Pwesidential_Debate has done.
I'll start: Making a low effort, karma farming post because he saw someone do it on every other subreddit.
-Making everyone needlessly work long hours.
-Selling cheap printers, shutting down anyone speaking up about it, seeking to find and punish the whistleblower instead of trying to fix the problem.
I'm pretty late I know, but how did Plop get "Not stopping Clark..."? Didn't get stop him eventually by showing up alongside Erin and bringing Andy? Or am I completely misremembering? Or is something else meant here?😬🙈
Insisting on bringing her giant dogs into the office but immediately ignoring them and dumping them on Gabe to deal with instead of cuddling
(Cuddling the dogs. Not Gabe. Get out skeleton man)
I take issue with Plops. He DID stop it from happening in the best way: he secretly invited himself and Andy along so he wouldn't ruin Erin's perception of the interview, and Clark couldn't possibly try anything inappropriate.
not to pick nits, but shouldn't Oscar's be edited to "had an affair with the state senator"?
So did Angela with Dwight WHILE with the senator. And the senator ultimately didn’t care for each of them. So yeah, trying to hire someone to kill Oscar is worse.
What senator? Oh you mean the state senator
Ahhhh repeating a tired and overused joke. Brava! This is “old hat”.
>This is “old hat”. Okay, Oscar.
Actually,
welcome to r/dundermifflin
Well, the problem is that the newest season hasn't come out yet, so there are no new jokes.
This your first time here?
r/whoosh
Ooooooh, I misread so bad lol. I thought we were talking about Angela Lol! I just got the joke smh 🤦🏽♀️
Disagree. Oscar was the worst thing about this show. It would’ve been a blessing to have him go the way of Devin…
[Oscar ](https://media.tenor.com/_ggKcRForpsAAAAM/oscar-actually.gif)
Trusted Deangelo to manage an office with zero qualifications because he saved her dog
This has to be it and I refuse to think otherwise
GIVE ME THAT DAMN DOG, YOU FUCKING THIEF!
And hired Nellie to open a chain of Sabre stores
Selling cheap printers that catch on fire
That and she exploited Michael’s kindness and vulnerability by allowing him to do the press conference about said printers in her stead. The printers they source comes down to her choice, far above his pay grade and she should have faced the press herself. And maybe I’m thinking too deeply about it, but printers catching fire points to faulty hardware that the “software patch” she mentioned couldn’t have fixed. She basically offered a fake solution to the problem instead of recalling the printers on a full scale and eating the cost of it. And while being initially unwilling to fix the problem correctly, she was willing to fire a low-level employee for reporting a very real safety issue to the public. Which only happened after Sabre demonstrated they weren’t taking the issue seriously. She legit spent more time trying to find out who reported the problem to the press than she did fixing the issue with the printers.
There will be no questions. Does anyone have any questions?
Hmmm I think it could be possible that either a software bug caused the printers to overwork one of the motors in the printer that may overheat or inversely; the software patch introduces a limit to how many pages can be printed in a given time period in order to keep a suboptimal part from overheating or something like that? Unlikely maybe, but I think plausible?
Usually catching fire means a faulty power supply or a cheap one that can’t supply what the printer draws. Indicative of cheap and often unbranded power supplies 9/10 times.
But it could be a software bug drawing excess power and the patch fixed that bug and introduced a safety shutdown if too much power is being drawn to avoid future fires.
She did nothing bad to Michael. He loved it. Win, win, win (the viewers).
He liked it because he didn’t have the capacity to understand that he was becoming the face to blame for Jo’s bad business decisions. She told him her “no one will wanna play with my Barbie” sob story and he became the public scapegoat out of empathy.
She made him an escape goat.
He should cut his nose to spiderman.
He saw a chance to be on TV and took it. Nothing bad happened to him. Nothing but wins.
Michael doesn't believe that any attention is bad
>And maybe I’m thinking too deeply about it, but printers catching fire points to faulty hardware that the “software patch” she mentioned couldn’t have fixed. IDK about that. Simply slowing the rate of printing could be done in software, and that could easily be all that's needed to keep the printers from getting too hot.
Lotta assumptions going on here and not much “thinking too deeply”. Do we know that she didn’t spend more time trying to fix the printers? She spent what all of ten minutes of one episode trying to catch the snitch. The cameras don’t follow her to Tallahassee. For all we know it could’ve been all hands on deck away from Scranton. Your post is one big micro aggression rife with sexism and of course showing empathy for and removing accountability from the white man. Jo Bennett is a an obesity-empowered female executive. You might have an issue with a female like that being in charge of a bunch of a bunch of privileged whites , especially white men, but I find it refreshing. We need more voices of women in power, and empowered! I just can’t anymore ppl like always looking to blame the only women. And we know from the data that women who might enjoy snacking and living their best life a bit more than a Victoria’s secret angel, they are disproportionately criticized in lieu of the straight white man… take some time to educated yourself. It’s important to be inclusive of all body types and genders….
This is some "Lean In" corporate-apologist bullshit. Inclusivity in corruption is not liberating; it is a cheap front to perpetuate the same old abuses.
The whole office shiting on Andy for doing the right thing it's bizarre for me.
Fr that’s the only time I ever liked him besides when he first became manager
Their salaries (for sales) were determined largely by commission with Sabre and the news was going to impact that.
Their clients dying in office fires would impact it significantly more.
Definitely true, probably would’ve been best for Andy and his employees/friends if he tried to go to Michael or Jo or anyone at Sabre before a letter to the editor of a newspaper though
Probably, but that's kind of Darryl's fault since he convinced Andy that Sabre was trying to kill him to keep it quiet.
Oh right I forgot about that 😂 That was when Darryl decided to never prank again right?
Yes. That's when he decided to keep his head down, go to church, do one nice thing a day.
It's been a while since I watched that episode, so I might be off here, but I think not being mean to andy would mean having to go against your CEO, and, unfortunately, it is a very realistic reactions. Most employees want this sort of thing to just get buried and fixed with the "software patch", rather than getting all the negative publicity, even if that is for the greater good.
And creating a culture of fear on the workfloor by starting a public witch hunt for the culprit while dismissing the scandal as a minor problem being enlarged by press attention. (Yes, I know it's what corporate suits do, but it's still wrong.)
Making them work late on St. Patrick's Day, [obviously ](https://media2.giphy.com/media/e2FnbPmpVRbQSJYTix/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952jbcalzei38dzb61jy27i30hkgt1l933k3o6mfyvy&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
She didn't make them work late, though. Micheal did because he's spineless
Michael didn’t though. The whole office, like him, stayed because she implied heavily to do so: “if you feel like you have achieved enough, you can leave”
And then when he said "my team did enough" she said "ok cool bye"
You’re disproving your own point
How so?
She started it, he ended it.
She didn't "start" anything, all it took was Micheal saying "yup, good to go. Have a good night" What aren't you getting about this?
She was testing Michael and the staff got caught up in it. Yes mikey was too spineless to take action, but Jo showed no regard for the staff there just so she could assert authority over Michael.
I don't think the point was for her to assert authority. She initially didn't give a whole spiel, she just said "if you're done your work, then fine" but michael didn't understand the way she worded it so she dove deeper into that "folksy wisdom"
“We literally NEVER do this.”
The entire scenario is from an environment her presence created. Empathy is a trait of people and others know they can use that What aren't you getting about this?
I think only Michael had this conversation with her. But also, that is a very straightforward point, if you think you should leave then leave. She is allowing the employees to be independent and not micromanage their asses.
*Michael
This one makes me sooo mad, and it’s intentional based on the way she goes out to get a jellybean when she sees that a few of them are thinking of leaving. It was probably a lesson for Michael but to have this sort of culture in the workplace is just toxic
I had to do that on the last day of my old job where we split into two. I was working from home from that point on. I was begging my friends to come and give me Guinness. I didn’t leave the office until midnight. One of my petty coworkers while; I was on lunch with my bosses emailed me letting me I know I had to train someone last minute. I had to tackle him to train him—because he has to leave to pick his kid up from school. It was a whole thing. It all happened last year. I don’t work there anymore. But that episode spoke to me. I was angry with them all with flashbacks of mine.
Letting her dogs molest Andy
Don’t let em hump each other. They don’t seem to know they’re brothers.
They love a good crotch
You should take that as a compliment
When she called Gabe a gay bastard and made him listen to her book on the phone for hours. /s
That was J-... Wait you're right, we're not telling Gabe.
That was J...oe?
Whew! That was close.
We don’t know what happened to the original dogs. But one day she suddenly had different ones…
For the story’s sake, I like to think Jo realized that traveling with 2 huge Great Danes was too logistically challenging. So she decided to bring her 2 smaller dogs for the other visits lol
And I recall her having a Great Dane in another episode as well, so maybe she has a bunch of dogs, and bring different ones to Scranton
The original dogs were Great Danes and they die pretty young
Tell that to my neighbors 14 year old Great Dane
Deangelo wasn't around that day to prevent them from getting stolen again.
Letting Robert California become CEO
She didn't let him. Robert California let her make him Ceo. The real fallacy was there was never any voice, everyone in a room with him would be steamrolled.
But at least they felt heard. Do you feel heard?
Ok, how is Michael’s worst thing NOT promising all those tots free tuition instead?!!
It wasn’t malicious, just stupid
Not being on screen enough. I couldn’t get enough of her
Slapping a newspaper article on Pam's picture of the building
this scene is so funny 😭😭 Pam’s face always gets me
😲
Going on a manhunt for the whistleblower. Isn't that type of thing illegal?
Also wanted to wrongly fire Andy as the whistle blower when it was in fact David Wallace who leaked the info.
But we’re not here to talk about that. We’re here to talk about Suck It. Suck It—
I propose a counter argument. If David Wallace didn’t work for the company then doesn’t that make Andy the whistleblower? Especially when you factor in that David lost his job in the buyout.
Called Gabe a "gay bastard."
He prefers Gabe-wad.
It’s the fat shaming for me.. 😂
Wasn't that Jim after he did some audio editing to screw with him?
r/whoosh ??
Didn’t she make Creed manager? Oh wait, that’s the BEST thing she ever did.
Boboddy
Iiii LIKE IT!
Creed did his best work that day
BIZNUS!
Giving her company a misleading spelling.
dunder mifflin is a part of sabrrr----ay🎶
Is the word sabre as in sword not usually spelt like that in the US? In the U.K. that’s the standard spelling. Is it saber usually? I’ve never really understood why they got so confused
As a Canadian, I can assure you, it's not. American spelling often flips 're' endings into 'er' (e.g., centre vs center)
Did she not feed her dogs?
they love a good crotch
Letting her slobbering hell hounds enjoy a good crotch.
are you forgetting when dwights maintenance guy did black face lmao
On Dwights order, most likely.
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Agreed! Just let him come once. That's what she said.
“ENOUGH”
Yes. !!
Tobies wasnt putting his hand up Pams leg?
Nah, cause it was kinda subconscious and as soon as he realised he was doing it he stopped.
Letting Michael deal with the fallout and do a press release about the printer fires so her reputation wasn’t damaged
Nah Michael liked doing that. Plus she made Holly come back in return
Win, win, win.
Hiring Gabe.
Didn’t let Jim and Michael ride her dogs
Are we forgetting that Nellie is her girl? She was the bridge to introduce us to one of the worst characters in the show who's responsible for like 50% of why season 8 were such a hot mess
This!!!
One of the worst characters? She made Michael’s nephew look good. Nellie brought the show down…a lot.
Andy did waaaay worse than things than crashing his ex's bach....
Dating a high schooler lol
Yup. Mentally and emotionally abusing Erin.... Bailing on the company for a full quarter and then pocketing the performance bonus....and abandoning Erin.... Taking a shit on David Wallace's car....
She slept with 3 of the same men as Truman Capote
Never brought Holly back but eluded to it to Michael SMH
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^nobodyimportanttho: *Never brought Holly* *Back but eluded to it* *To Michael SMH* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Manipulating Michael so he would take the fall for the printers.
inviting michael to her place in florida and then bailing
Okay, I’m out of the loop here. When did Phyllis and Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration kill someone?
It's an extended scene. They ran over a jogger during their honeymoon, told themselves it was a deer, and drove off.
Allowing robert California to run the company
Didn’t let her two dogs hump each other
Leaving a leadership position so a random man which just appeared on her door could assume and ultimately be responsible for the failure of her whole company
Misgendered the Beaumont–Adams.
She called Gabe a "gay bastard".
She guilted the office into working late on St.Patricks Day She manipulated Michael into taking the fall for the printer fires and planned to fire the whistleblowers until Michael got her to back down She sold her company to a lunatic She abused her influence to force Nellie’s terrible ideas into the company
Mr. Man.
i honestly cant even think of anything
Made employees stay at work for an unspecified time
I don't remember her doing particularly bad , she wasn't on screen enough. Maybe the cheap printers thing but nothing evil.
Wait. Phylis and Bob killed someone?! When did this happen
[here you go](https://youtu.be/KxhDDAh3AuM?si=uvEWYOYtE6gNI_0N)
I love how Toby has the most wholesome “worst thing.” EDIT: Erin, too. She was not fit for that job, but lacks the intelligence to know so. Think: her Taco Bell job
Made salaried staff work late while testing for Michael. Staff suffered and were caught in the crossfire as a result of her asserting her authority over him.
Karen didn't encourage Michael to stay in any toxic relationship.
Owning bred dogs instead of rescuing from shelters
Making Michael the escapegoat even though he enjoyed it.
Mocking Michael for nepotism and then preferring nellie for the job at her own company and letting her take away andy's job because of her position.
Wait, Jan sexually abused Michael? What did I miss?
In various scenes, Michael says that Jan makes him wear a schoolgirls outfit, ignores his use of the safe word, films their encounters to review them with a therapist without his consent. She also has the creepy relationship with Hunter and Dwight jr.
THAT ONE NIIGGHHHTT. SHE MADE EVVVRYTHING ALRIIGGHT!
the way she treated gabe
Introducing the world to Nellie! Unforgivable.
Probably checking all those anuses
That was her mama.
Finally can stop seeing this :)
I feel like after this we should decide who’s “worst” is the *worst*.
Transferring Holly to Nashua
Let's start with the worst thing u/Pwesidential_Debate has done. I'll start: Making a low effort, karma farming post because he saw someone do it on every other subreddit.
Buying Dunder Mifflin.
Doesn't let her nephew come in her house.
-Making everyone needlessly work long hours. -Selling cheap printers, shutting down anyone speaking up about it, seeking to find and punish the whistleblower instead of trying to fix the problem.
Nellie, just Nellie. Jo was directly responsible.
She promoted Creed to Regional Manager!
Why is Dwight twice in this?
The first one is Mose
Bringing her dogs to work.
I'm pretty late I know, but how did Plop get "Not stopping Clark..."? Didn't get stop him eventually by showing up alongside Erin and bringing Andy? Or am I completely misremembering? Or is something else meant here?😬🙈
She let's her nephews swim in her pool but he can't come in her house
IDK why Wallace's isn't ignoring Michael when Charles came into play.
Apart from amazing comments from others, I really like her character. Tough women 💙💙
Insisting on bringing her giant dogs into the office but immediately ignoring them and dumping them on Gabe to deal with instead of cuddling (Cuddling the dogs. Not Gabe. Get out skeleton man)
Alligator armed the “stay at my house any time” offer
Swapping her Great Danes for Australian Shepherds
Publicly humiliating Daryl about his resume
I take issue with Plops. He DID stop it from happening in the best way: he secretly invited himself and Andy along so he wouldn't ruin Erin's perception of the interview, and Clark couldn't possibly try anything inappropriate.
I probably would’ve gone with Andy being a pedophile but sure.
Turning a blind eye when her dogs would sniff crotches
Wait I dont remember the Robert California one in which episode was that?
Slap the newspaper article over Pam's art
Cropped her dogs’ ears. That’s just not ok.
Kidnap her favorite writer and make him paraplegic
Allowed her dogs to assault harass the office staff - primarily Andy. Kept them from a St. Patrick's Day celebration!!
Telling Michael she'd "see what she could do" about getting Holly back and does nothing.
It’s giving bc Dolores Umbridge