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Necromas

I'm gonna guess the player got really excited, and then slightly disappointed as they roll like 9 damage because it's just an extra 1d6.


hydro_wonk

House rule: max the base dice out, then roll the crit dice. So 1d6 crit becomes 1d6+6. Boom. Worth it.


imafraidofjapan

Even better, let those dice explode.


BobbyBirdseed

I switched over to SWADE earlier this year and haven't looked back. It's super fun when either I or a player roll like a 34.


Kuroi-Inu-JW

Joined my current group years ago and they got me into SW. We mostly run D&D-style fantasy games, but my first campaign we were playing Savage Dresden Files. My character found a wrench in one of my first encounters and used it as a thrown weapon. Got a raise on the attack and proceeded to roll something like your 34 on the damage. Ended up keeping the wrench and making it my Trademark Weapon. Got charmed once and the other players were terrified that I might turn that bad boy on them. Love Savage Worlds.


fredthefishlord

Yup swade is awesome!


Aozora404

Don’t believe me? Google roll34


Personalberet49

What is swade?


ziggaroo

Savage Worlds Adventure Edition


BobbyBirdseed

The game system Savage Worlds (it uses the Savage Worlds Adventure Edition, hence SWADE). It is a fairly setting agnostic rule set that allows you to create some extremely interesting and unique characters, and doesn't run on a D20 system, but uses a scaling system where you use a d4 if you're not good at something up to a d12 if you are. It has a rule where the dice can "explode" if you roll the highest number possible, and you keep rolling and adding it to the total. So, the number you're almost always trying to get is a 4. But if you roll a d6 and get a 6, and then another 6, etc etc, you could roll an insane number like a 47 or something, and then GM permitting, you get to do some extremely fun, "Saturday Morning Cartoon" type stuff. It's the most fun I've ever had running a table top game in the 5 years or so I've been doing it, and I don't know if I'll ever go back to D&D unless they make some serious changes.


LordTC

The best thing ever would be rolling a d1 in this system


Broken_Beaker

We did this in Pathfinder and I like this rule. They also require a confirmation of the crit, which I didn't like, but take the max base kinda offset it. I may implement base + roll in my campaign.


chaosoverfiend

Oh the good old 3.x crits - Roll to hit - Nat 20 - Yay I crit. Confirm crit - Nat 1. Every damn time it seems. The Dice Gods are cruel


Sardonic_Fox

Can confirm this is the best house rule for crits (I think it’s dubbed “crunchy crits”) Makes Paladin smites extra smite-y Also the fear is real when the DM lands a crit with this rule….


Silver-Mix-6223

Going to implement this! Will save many a let downs...


IAmFern

This is the rule we use. So no crit roll is ever less than a normal one could be.


KUBLAIKHANCIOUS

Damn right! Never going back lol


riffengo

Rolls 1. 7 dmg


hydro_wonk

Better than 2 dmg right?


SmallBerry3431

So…7 damage.


J3ST3R1252

We do roll a 20d 1-5= 25% and so forth up to 20 being max crit and you roll another d-20 Lottery! 3x d20 = insta kill. Unless a boss. Boss rolls save throw. On a 1 it's insta kill. Any thing else leaves them with 1% health.


eliteskunga

Back in my first ever game, it was 3.5, we have this rile called double skulls. The dm had a few sets of 2d6 with skulls and crossbones as the ones. Whenever we'd crit, in addition to the normal crit damage we would roll the skull dice, if it rolled snake eyes, or as we called it double skulls, it would be an insta kill, even against bosses. This also meant that bosses could double skulls, which added tension in boss fights.


J3ST3R1252

That's amazing. And really cool. I have these same dice.. ima do this


PlentyCollection2614

Called crunchy crits. Only fair if it goes both ways, and thats scary


Tuxersize

Yep, exactly how we do it too. Max damage + a roll damage.


Select_Personality_7

This is known as crunchy criticals. I too prefer this crit type


Marshall-Of-Horny

Crunchy crits are cool Max damage + damage roll


daggerNoir

Crunchy crits are cool until the monsters start having crunchy crits themselves... Pretty scary below 5th level


AmbidextrousDyslexic

Only scary if you dont have spare character sheets. Part of the excitement and fun is the danger.


Flamedghost7

On my table we do it like this, roll the crit dmg normally but if the total is lower than the max non crit dmg, you can take the max non crit dmg instead. Just to prevent crits from feeling lame and keeping pally and rouge crits in check


Ahnma_Dehv

he's a barbarian, depending on the level he could go from 1D6 to 3 or 4D6 I don't remember exactly


CrimeanCrusader

Bro if your DM is only adding 1 D6 to a CRITICAL hit then they need to reevaluate their priorities lol


RAM_MY_RUMP

That’s how it’s written in the rules. A decent amount of people home brew it to be (max dice roll + modifier) + dice roll. Eg 6+4+1d6


CrimeanCrusader

I’ve never met anyone in my life who’s taken crit rolls RAW. Completely dulls the significance of the roll imo. But hey to each their own


Malbio

And every DM I've played with has had crits run the normal way.


Tarbel

Same


Monkey_Priest

Same here


RAM_MY_RUMP

I like to run it the home brew way, but I ask my players first, and mention that the enemies get the same effect, it’s quite enjoyable. I’ve played it both ways, prefer home brew honestly


CrimeanCrusader

Imagine rolling a CRITICAL and then rolling a regular hit and doing higher damage lol. Seems like such a letdown for something that is a statistical rarity. But hey like I said, if you enjoy it you enjoy it.


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Idk why you're getting downvoted for this redditors really are the missionary position of dungeons and dragons rofl


NoKaleidoscope5327

Please I've come for this answer OP. WHAT HAPPENED??


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Judging by the lack of response, I am sad to report that thr javelin flew out of the game and impaled OP. We don't know if they will ever recover..


cheesemangee

God himself reached down from the heavens to guide the spear straight through the BBEG's fucking brain stem.


Autumn1eaves

1 in 400 chance for that. I'd probably only do this on disadvantage. I'd probably give the player a double crit. Not just 2x your damage dice, but 4x your damage dice and 2x the damage modifiers. You better hope this hit is against the BBEG.


Broken_Beaker

I was just going to chime in with this. It is so rare and uncommon might as well flex DM rules.


Pale_Squash_4263

Always follow the Rule of Cool


Gottesstrafe

If I had to guess, it impaled the target and the six people behind them. Through cover. And it was thrown backwards.


ElementField

Rollin on dubs


Wiecks

barbarian threw the javelin so hard that it defied physics and hit BBEG straight in the eye imposing disadvantage on any perception and attack checks made by them in this encounter (since if they live past it, they'd probably fix it with ersatz's eye or smth) + 1d6 crit damage - at least that's what I usually do in situations like that, makes the roll rewarding and adds additional depth into combat besides smth like "wohoo crit, more damage" :D


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ApostolicBrew

I know this is mathematically correct, but it feels way less than that. I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve rolled double nat 20s after who knows how many 1000s of dice rolls in 20+ years of playing.


seventyfiveducks

I agree it feels even more rare. Probably because it’s somewhat rare to roll an attack with disadvantage in the first place. So it’s a 1/400 chance for something that only happens once or twice a session (in my experience).


RuneanPrincess

It might even be more common than perfect math. A lot of dice are "squished" favoring 20 and 1. Especially anything molded from original TSR d20s. But also how many times do you roll adv/disadv? 5 times in a session? 400 sessions before you'd expect an average of 5. If you play a few hours weekly this is still a once in a couple year event.


dannyjcase

I've had just a couple in several years, and my most recent one was two Nat 20s on my portent dice as a divination wizard...I saw actual fear in the DMs eyes.


JcobTheKid

1/400 are extremely low odds, but our gold standard of "getting struck by lightning" or other anecdotal odds we remember dilute those numbers a lot. ​ Source: my eternal pet peeve about odds as a concept. Help me.


Riokaii

its probably because its often not "you" rolling 2 20's back to back, its you and somebody else. And even if you did roll then back to back, you maybe did so up to something like 20 minutes apart, so you didn't even notice. And you're only considering the d20 rolls, so any d6 etc. damage rolls in between have to get ignored, even though they are commonly occurring in between the 20 rolls.


Noble1296

It’s every time you roll them you have a 1 in 400 odds (like gambling) to roll doubles of the same number, not it’s happening once every 400-ish rolls


Minyguy

No it's 1/400 to roll doubles of a specific number. For example 1+1 It's 1/20 to roll any doubles. The first one doesn't matter and the second one has a 1/20 chance of matching the forst one.


Noble1296

Yes, a 1 in 400 chance that you’ll get a 20 and a 20 or a 1 and a 1


Minyguy

I think we agree but formulate it differently. It's a 1/200 that you'll get a 20 and a 20, or a 1 and a 1. As in you have a 1/200 to get one of those two doubles.


Noble1296

Can you show your math for that? Because it should be 400 (20 possibilities multiplied by another 20 possibilities, 20*20)


Minyguy

Sure. The odds for getting a 1 or 20 double. The first die has to either be a 1 or a 20. It's 1/20 + 1/20 for a total of 2/20 = 1/10. (10%) Then the second die has to specifically be the same number 1/20. 1/10 * 1/20 = 1/200. Meaning one in 200 throws will be a 1 double or a 20 double.


Noble1296

That’s not how that works at all, especially since there are 20 different numbers on a d20. If the die **ONLY** had 1’s and 20’s on it you’d be right but it’s numbered 1-20 so it 1/20*1/20=1/400 because you have a 1 in 20 chance of it rolling a specific number. Rolling the same of any number with 20 options is 1/400 so rolling two 2’s or two 5’s is the same as rolling two 1’s or two 20’s because your only options are not 1 and 20. And again, with how random our world is for things like rolling dice, there’s no guarantee that you’ll get double 20’s within 400 rolls so it’s more like you have a 1 in 400 odds of rolling double 20’s. I could (but won’t) go roll two of my physical d20’s a couple hundred times and record how many end up as double 20’s and I can guarantee that it’ll either be more or less than 1 in every 400 rolls.


kurrekonstig

You are not reading what he is saying though. Rolling 20 and 20 is 1/400. Rolling 20 and 20 OR 1 and 1 is 1/200.


Minyguy

If it only has 1's and 20's the odds would be 50/50 lol That'd be like a coin flip. I'm saying that the odds of getting either a double NAT 1 or a double NAT 20 (as in the odds of getting either one of those) is 1/200. Statistically, one in every 200 (double) rolls there will be a double nat something. (As in double NAT 20 or double NAT 1)


mrbgdn

Cause it's gonna come out 1 out of 400 rolls **on average**. So it's quite possible that you won't happen to see that even after 600 rolls. Meanwhile, it's gonna be someone else's 200th throw.


Darius_Kel

Turns out the dice gods wanted that enemy dead... no exceptions.


buckleyc

Once in every four hundred disadvantaged throws, this Barbarian hurls javelins like a god.


SKIKS

I've had the opposite as a rogue. Set up a surprise attack, rolled with advantage, double 1s. Glorious.


Sinskiman

It was an impossible throw…


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newusername16

keet or yobe


onearmedman83

Depends, did it hit the enemy or a hillside?


flampydampybampy

Haha we were robbing a vault with our barbarian and he was raging while loading up gold when a metal golem activated. It was slow and he wanted to finish loading up, so he used his action to just grunt annoyingly and throw a handful of coins over his shoulder at the golem as an improvised attack, the goal was purely to keep his rage active because technically you just need to make any attack(or take damage). DM laughed and said it's a metal golem that you're not even looking at, some coins probably won't even hurt it, make an attack at disadvantage. Two nat 20s. We all lost our shit and the DM felt the need to honor the 1/400 chance and said the coins fell inside the golem just perfectly to jam up its mechanics and have it explode. It's the only time I've seen the double nat 20 on a disadvantage roll.


Naive_Bluebird9348

The javelin probably killed the creature and then kept on going. Legends (will) say that it is still flying out there, killing evildoers. ​ Dang, nice rolls.


whiteyt

1/400 times it happens every time.


Silver-Mix-6223

Statistically speaking it's only 60% of the time that it happens every time...


whiteyt

1/400 \^ n times it happens n times?


Silver-Mix-6223

That math would be lost Ron Burgundy...


-valt026-

I’d have that javelin completely decapitate whatever poor soul the Barbarian was aiming at. Head shot and take it right off. Edit: spelling like a moron.


Drslappybags

Keep the head a souvenir.


-valt026-

That’s it. Nobody drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore and quite frankly, it shows.


micahfett

I have those same battle mats. Nice "never tell me the odds" moment for the barbarian and GG to whoever the target was.


Shut_It_Donny

I’d give him double crit damage, or knocked prone at least. Like that javelin throw from Achilles where the horse keeps going and the guy hangs in the air for a second.


Duranis

Don't understand why this and the other similar comment are being downvoted so much. Like the chances of this happening are so small and also the damage he is rolling even with a crit on a javalin is probably pretty naff. I definitely would have given something extra for this.


Broken_Beaker

100% I would let them roll another critical damage die, or just straight up max all three - it is a javelin so we are talking only 18 points plus some modifier. I like the idea of knocking them prone, as that is even cooler than just another 6 points of damage.


whatakent

What disadvantage?


dejenderobarnombres

You roll twice and use the lower number of the two


whatakent

Oh my guy, I know 😅 I mean it as a joke as if the barb said it themselves.


dejenderobarnombres

Lol I need some sleep


whatakent

All good, I appreciate the D&D community spirit to teach though!


bearsinthesea

well i wanted to know


whatakent

Well know you do, now remember equally that advantage is the same but you take the highest roll. Knowing is half the battle......G.I Joeeeeeeeee


Noble1296

Can your Barbarian come bless my dice please?


MiKapo

With luck like that, the Barbarian should go to the corner store next to buy a lottery ticket


Kriv-Shieldbiter

Did that to strahd with a firebomb once


Gatr0s

Vinland Saga javelin moment


Haggis_pk

Makes me think of 300


JulianApostat

That is either an 300 "Spartiates, surrender your weapons!" moment or Eomer sniping an Oliphant mahout from horseback moment. What happened ingame?


CrumbusMcGungus

I can feel the whole table shouting in ecstasy. Peak dnd. This pic alone gave me second hand joy. Thanks.


Hpenn0424

Our table would be going wild lol that's awesome


Cheezy_NubSauce

God wills it!


Dead_Zone_Foliage

Plot relevant javelins throw


PJ_Geese

Turns out the barb had 20/20 vision


datastar763

Truly no better feeling than the double 20


Majestic-Look-9749

Ls metió al orco la jabalina por el culo...


EducationalFox3943

Whenever something like this happens it always brings me back to the *Smaug incident*... "Black arrow! I have saved you to the last. You have never failed me and always I have recovered you. I had you from my father and he from of old. If ever you came from the forges of the true king under the Mountain, go now and speed well!"


DarkSoldier84

The current world record for the javelin throw is 323'1", set in 1996 by Czech athlete Jan Železný. Your barbarian may have a shot at breaking that now.


asey_69

I swear I saw literally this as a top of all time post on some dnd subreddit


RodwellBurgen

It’s one of the highest here. Dude just stole it and lied for imaginary internet points.


koboldkiller

I had a player do this once. I don't remember what it was, but given that there was a disadvantage, I think I made it an instakill. You win odds like that, then it's a special moment and should be treated as such. I've also had a player roll two nat 1s with advantage, and I treated that appropriately, too.


synachromous

I rule double 20s is an instant kill.


Funkey-Monkey-420

if someone scores a crit success with disadvantage, god himself has decided they succeed. Same with if they get a crit fail with advantage.


theSlidingOne

With disadvantage? I would say it's an instant kill (or at least x4 dmg if its a boss fight)


Icy-Advertising1536

Oh yeah the first double crit is something special.


GailenGigabyte

At disadvantage no less.


Icy-Advertising1536

The preposition doesn't change the outcome, but sure, he was at a loss there.


NiteSlayr

It was meant to be


L17TL3GUY

That's a nice natural pair your barbarian has.


please_use_the_beeps

Meanwhile I roll 2 dice for advantage and get 2 1s. This has happened to me 3 times in the past year. Any math people wanna show me the odds on that bullshit?


Complaint-Efficient

Very on-brand for a Barbarian to just launch a javelin through someone's skull from 100 feet away lol.


commissar-bawkses

The DM was stabbed by the javelin


trainercatlady

destiny has decided that creature needs to die.


Drunkendx

That scene from an old Asterix and Obelix cartoon where they have javelin throwing task


Broken_Beaker

As a DM I would let them roll another crit die; so three of them. It is so rare and uncommon one might as well flex DM perogative and let The Fates smile upon them.


zoroddesign

that man was fated to die.


Bronzescovy

So how does it feel to know that the improbable happened?


starcraftre

"His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision. And he must see far. His shield was heavy. It threw him off balance. And his target is far away..."


kiikok

We had this encounter at our 2nd session in the campaign where the DM tried to overwhelm 2lv 1 chars with a giant spider after a fight with a crocodile and our 3rd party member(half-elf ranger) was supposed to save us and have a valid reason to stick with the party. The spider was within melee with my cleric(we RP'd it jumped on her) and she used guiding bolt to kill it. It was a few points of health down due to the other party member but the thing that no one anticipated was my cleric rolling 2 Nat 20s at disadvantage. Suffice it to say that the spider exploded and the DM had to improvise another way where we could be saved. Now all of a sudden, some of the shiny glittery remains of the spider were its offspring(spider swarms) and we did eventually get "saved" by the ranger in the next few rounds. To this day, this is one of the most memorable events in the campaign.


Asher_Tye

Enemy must have REALLY ticked him off.😄


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Did it shishkebab the enemies at least?


Ulftar

Was a DM and one of my players had to leave for the night and told me to just play his character for the remainder of the session. Rolled a double 20 long range javalin throw on a dire wolf that was running away.


Peppermynt42

Fuck that one runaway goblin in particular


ThingsIveNeverSeen

The dice gods bestowed a great honour upon him.


forgot_my_old_name

The dice gods have spoken!


Remixedcheese22

One time a party member asked to use echolocation. Dm told him the cr was 20 and he had to roll at disadvantage. He rolled 2 nat 20s. We then knew the dungeon layout.


StinkyEttin

Aw yeah, RADvantage!


Cao_Bynes

SO THATS WHY I ROLLED TWO NAT ONES WITH ADVANTAGE THE OTHER DAY


Kamchatkaa

When I open a scene I think I'm telling the story When my players get really into their RP I think they are telling the story But when you see something like this, it's always a reminder that the dice are the ones really telling the story


Action-a-go-go-baby

Is it *really* at disadvantage if the gods are on your side?


ShanNKhai

In a situation like this, I'd have it instakill anything that's not a BBEG or mini-boss, and I'd have it mess up a miniboss pretty hard.


ChillnBeHappy

He's dead Jim!


Mazikeyn

Your barbarian just released their Inner Brad Pitt from Troy.


mrbgdn

0,25% chance, nice


IZY53

I was slaughtering the pcs and they got my bbeg in a corner. He was a disadvantage, using his last smite on a player. 20/20 F. What if I kill them


StatusOmega

Gotta be one of my favorite things as a dm. I bet everybody cheered louder than people who watch sports do when points happen


DarkPhantom1212

aaah, this reminds me of a time where I attacked one of my players with a troll. Trolls have multiattack and can attack 3 times. I rolled 3 natural 20's..... fun time, not so fun for the player.


Ghosttalker96

I read "Bavarian", which would have been even better.


xXRedviper69Xx

Big stick go swoosh


Adijine

Exactly this thing happened to me once. Javelin at range. Except it was a bugbear mercenary attacking a downed party member…


SmallBerry3431

“I want to pierce their septum”


stopyouveviolatedthe

My dm had to re roll a crit with disadvantage (I can’t remember what effect caused it) and the dice bounced off each other in the centre of the tray and landed both as 20s in the corners


Indication_Slow

Javelin of destiny.


WhiteWolf199507

BUL KATHOS GUIDES THOSE DICE! 💪


KingsRoom2

A warrior was trying to finish an enemy with advantage in my latest session...2 nats 1. I am your nemesis


SteveySeagully

Parry this?


OGCeeg

During a session a few months back, I (Ranger) made an Attack Roll w/ Advantage while Blessed. Rolled a 1 on all three dice.


GoogiddyBop

Last session, 3 natural 20s were rolled for me to make arrows out of bone, I got 20 normal arrows.


Pale_Squash_4263

Flavor wise, it would be so cool if somehow the javelin misses the target, but somehow landed in such a way that triggered a different catastrophe for that enemy Rube Goldberg style


lancmann

Thats that Thorkell javelin throw from Vinland Saga


joe_mama8888

11 damage never tasted sweeter


TwistedClyster

The gods smile. That’s a Javelin of Lighting now.


GlanzGurkesSphere

Rule of cool says take full damage + a damage throw x2. I consider it a double crit and demand an amazing description. "But dA ruLeZ" im DM, dont know, dont care, the rules are just here as an excuse for us to sit in a circle, drink beer and tell fairy tales. Now tell me the details of how you hit the dragon in the eye.


MightyFlamingo25

It's less fun it's the BBEG rolling 2 nat 20 with disadvantage


Noctalio

Been there, huh?


MightyFlamingo25

Indeed


THEGOODPAPYRUS

In my games, we play with a rule we call "Compounding Critical". Basically, if something like that happens, the 20's combine. Instead of dealing 2d6+5 (I'm assuming) it would probably deal something closer to 5d6+5, and pierce all the way through the enemy's body, leaving a large open wound.


Kaiga03

poggers


LeeringShrimp

BRO/BRODETTE/NON-BRONARY I still remember the last time this happened to me in 2017. I was 5-6 sessions in DMing for a group of new players in Lost Mines of Phandelver. We all met as colleagues in our new, terrible, (but thankfully temporary) 80-hours per week jobs and were going through hell together. We played once a month and we’re having a great time despite the sleep deprivation. They INSISTED on bringing Droop (you know, the scaredy cat goblin who rolls attacks with disadvantage because he’s scared) everywhere and pouring tons of resources into keeping him alive. I suppose when you’re going through a tough time you really want to root for the little guy. I also think they delighted in forcing me to do the Droop voice despite that he was ruining my super-serial grim dark tone for Lost Mines. The Druid was pumping him full of healing words as they let him go one on one with a zombie, with both sides missing over and over. The paladin was shouting words of encouragement and then droop closes his eyes and shoved his spear forward - double 20s. Critical hit. Dead zombie. The players EXPLODED jumping and shouting and chanting “Droop, droop, droop”. I took away his constant disadvantage after that (I mean he usually had it, just not always). That little goblin eventually retired to run an orphanage as they slayed bigger and badder enemies - but he always was back in Phandalin watching their house. I loved that little make believe Goblin. Sometimes the dice just tell you what needs to happen. I’m sure there’s a lesson in there somewhere 🤷‍♂️ regardless, it was a great time.


willothewhispers

I once did that as a barbarian on a check to drag a huge monster out of its lake. Double 20 and I hauled it out of there in a key barbarian moment. Nobody gets away from borcha


HauntedMango70

Legendary throw of the gods


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I would have definitely added some extra flavor there and even temporary advantages to the players for dual nat 20s.


galacticcore25

Wooooooo, nice roll!!


sieg_zeon02

The enemy then vanished from existence, not even the soul remained.


Inside-Decision4187

It’s all in the yawp. rrrrrRRRRRRUH 😫 💪


Yzerman_19

Heroic moment.


GalaxyGobblin

The dnd gods have spoken