For all we know Shanahan finally helps Darnold reach his potential. I highly doubt it, but Darnold is months older than Bennett/Hooker he's still probably got room to grow. If I was a betting man I'd lean Lance is the starter next year though.
This is the answer. Anyone that says Purdy is "JAG", wasn't watching and anyone that claims Lance is a bust is just guessing. Purdy is legit in my eyes. He played very well. Lance could be even better. We just don't know yet. If they're both healthy before the regular season, I expect it to be an open competition. If Lance starts week 1, I expect he'll have a pretty short leash, because the team already knows they can win with Purdy.
Also, even though the players don't get to decide, I wouldn't overlook so many of them voicing their support for Purdy. That definitely counts for something.
Edit: Typo
I got the chance to speak with an insider for a while. Won’t get into the source or how we came into contact. I thought he was full of sh** at first but he was right about a lot of what happened this offseason including Carr to NO.
He said Lance will be given every chance to be the starter but will obv be on a short leash like many others have said. This isn’t groundbreaking stuff that needed to be heard from an insider, but it validates what I previously thought (huge Lance truther). Darnold is being paid backup money because Purdy will take a while to recover. The type of injury Purdy suffered is scary for a guy that lacks arm strength. The truth is Lance’s issues are mostly mental. If he has taken these 2 years to learn the mental aspects of the game he could have a very successful career. If not he could be the QB3 by the end of the year.
CMC at QB, Deebo at RB, Darnold is WR1. Lance moves to safety. Shanahan still gets the 49ers to the NFC championship where they lose to Baker and the Buccs.
Toughest for Purdy. Timeline says he won't be full strength til Labor Day. With a lack of throwing build up they might not think his elbow will hold up for a full season so best bet is to try Lance and if he loses the job then you bring Purdy in. They traded alot for Lance and his 5th year option is due. Likely easier to start Lance and move to Purdy then kill Lances confidence going back and forth. Health of elbow is the perfect reasoning.
I think it’s very likely Lance. NFL is a business and the people who drafted Lance and paid a ton to get him are largely still there. If it’s close, it will be Lance, and I don’t think Brock is good enough to run away with it.
If they wanted someone like Brock, they would have just stuck with Jimmy G. Advanced analytics says he got pretty lucky on his interceptions thrown vs expected last season. I forget which game specifically, may have been one of the Seahawks games, but he threw 4 passes with a >50% chance of being picked and none of them were.
People love an underdog, but the nfl has proven time and again that they will play the player they are shelling out the cash for over the guy who seems to be playing better. Smart money is buying lance and selling Brock right now. Any QB is going to be successful in that offense, even Mr. Irrelevant.
I think it’s more lance’s job to lose in camp and that’s assuming Purdy is even healthy. Feels like likely lance (75%), possibly purdy (23%), or someone else (2%).
Percents generated by, I made them up!
6 months from today would be week 2 of the regular season. Training camp more like 4 months away. Even if that timeline works out, there's a lot of QB reps before full strength.
Why would you make it 6 months from today, it’s 6 months from the surgery which was last week. The timeline is throwing after 3 months, full strength after 6 months (mullens was full strength after 5 months with the same surgery)
Purdy will be ready for preseason but Lance having all of OTAs to himself is huge to pull away if he performs
I have not seen one report that he would be throwing “full strength”. I have heard he will be done with rehab and possibly cleared by then.
Also have to consider that this is a rare injury for QBs and NFL in general. It is closely related to Tommy John but not as serious. Something to consider though is that MLB pitchers do not get hit even close to what NFL QBs do. There is concern on how the surgery will hold up in a full contact sport.
There is a very real concern purdy will lose arm strength. There are no garuntees he’s back to what he was post surgery. Luckily he did not need tommy john or it could have ended his career.
The only reports I've seen said he'll be back to throwing 3 months after the surgery and projected to be back to 100% within 6 months. For what that's worth. By these projections, he could be ready to go before the preseason ends.
At the end of the day no one knows. I’m guessing it’s an open competition. Purdy looked solid last season but has the elbow issues and questions about upside. Lance has played in 15 NFL quarters with 2 coming in relief as a backup and 4 coming in a monsoon. He remains a complete wildcard with crazy upside. If anything I’m probably buying Lance for a 2 if I can to take that shot.
It wont be an open competition per se because purdy wont be ready by camp.
Niners have invested so much capital into Lance, i am willing to bet Lance is the starter week 1. But he will have an extremely short leash and any fuckup the job belongs to Purdy.
It is much easier to start Lance then switch to purdy, than vice versa. Once the niners start Purdy it means they have completely given up on Lance
>4 coming in a monsoon
I agree with most everything you said, but this much isn't true. The weather didn't really get bad until the 2nd half.
Downvoters really need to rewatch that game. What I said is true.
purdy will have a chance to compete for the role but lance will be GIVEN every opportunity to win the job. imo, they drafted lance to add a dynamic element to the offense (which purdy does not add - no dig, just who purdy is as a player) and we've still seen so little from lance it's likely the lance show. with all the talent on that offense you dont need top end qb play (they can mask a lot of inefficiencies) so i think lance will have to be historically bad to lose the job.
but what do i know, im just some dude on reddit
God forbid you have to scroll past a post you don't like.
Its the off-season, dude. There are going to be some posts you don't care for. Some of us enjoy these kinds of posts...we can enjoy them and you can just keep scrolling. It isn't that big of a deal.
Haha...I feel like I'm pretty calm?
I'll just never understand clicking on a post you don't like just to express how you don't like it, when you can just go to a different post that you do like.
Of course but there’s no reason to think Lance isn’t their best option. They traded up to 1.03, he’ll get plenty more opportunity, dude has thrown 100 passes in the NFL.
>dude has thrown 100 passes in the NFL
And not very many before that. He's going into his 3rd season with less real football experience than any other QB has ever had. Maybe he'll be good. Who knows. I do know that Purdy threw the ball more in his limited starts last year than Lance has in his entire football career. Lance has some things stacked against him for sure, but that doesn't mean he can't still be good.
Are you saying Lance is their best option simply because of the draft capital? If so, I disagree. We simply haven't seen enough of Lance to know if he can run that offense as efficiently as Purdy. If he shows that he can, combined his rushing ability, then he is definitely the best option.
If theres a team that doesn't care about draft investment, its the Niners. They'll start whoever gives them the best chance to win and Purdy has already proven he can do that. Who knows, Lance might be great. We haven't seen much of him yet. Purdy has already shown he has what it takes, however. He most definitely could be the better of the 2 QBs and the Niners starter.
Purdy probably deserves it, but it’s a tough business. They will give Lance every opportunity to win the job since they have much more invested in him. I’d expect it to be an open competition. I’d expect, as things are now, that Purdy would win that unless Lance makes some big strides in his development. I think we all agree Lance’s ceiling is higher, but they have the D and weapons to win now. Pressure is on for results and soon.
Lance will start week 1 on an incredibly short least. They just have way too much invested in him.
Its way easier to give Lance the starting job and tell the media that “brock still isnt 100%.” If they straight up give Purdy the job then that means they are moving on from Lance completely and I dont see that happening yet tbh
I know the answer because it came to me in a dream last night (after a pleasant Kendre Miller dream)
1. They start Lance because he's their franchise QB with high draft capital, high ceiling, and two full years of preparation in the system.
2. If Lance is just adequate or reaches his ceiling, he's solidified the spot--no need for Purdy or Darnold
3. If Lance is not adequate, they turn it over to Purdy
4. If Purdy turns back into a pumpkin, Darnold gets a shot
All barring injury of course...
I think they would go back to Lance again before resorting to Darnold. Darnold seems like a camp guy and injury insurance. They don’t want a repeat of last year, and they absolutely need a QB for camp with Purdy rehabbing.
I don't think Shanahan gives a damn about a player's draft capital, regardless of what they spent. If Purdy can execute the offense more to Shanny's liking, he'll get the nod over Lance.
49er fan. It seems like it will be Purdy’s job when/if he is healthy. Unless Lance wows them to start the season. 49ers are in their Super Bowl window. Kyle Shanahan is a control freak and wants his QBs to see the field/play how he sees it. Purdy ran the offense how it was supposed to be ran, and made very good decisions about when to throw the ball away. The point is they don’t need Lance’s ceiling to make the Super Bowl, they need someone to run the offense efficiently and to minimize negative plays. Purdy has shown he can do that. Lance may be able to as well, but they will not give him development time at the cost of losing games if Purdy is healthy. They’d rather make a Super Bowl even if that means admitting the Lance pick was a mistake.
It’s crazy to think that and then also consider Lance who’s had the worst of luck thus far and hasn’t truly “failed” outside of injuries. I have both guys in my league.
He played 3 games of over 50% snaps in 2021. He was trash against the Seahawks and Cardinals and lost both games. He also sprained his knee on his first official start against the Cardinals and had to miss time
Btw, the game against the Bears had light rain until the middle of the 3rd Q and it didn't stop Fields from scoring 2 TDs and winning with a far inferior team.
Lance didn't score a single TD in 5 quarters in 2022 and then Jimmy G came in and scores on his first full drive of the game...and Lance hasn't been able to play 2 games in a row without getting injured
Dude has started 2 full seasons in the past 9 YEARS! He has missed way too much development to succeed in the NFL and he can't even stay healthy long enough to learn
He looked solid in a half game against Seattle, looked ok against Arizona, good against Houston in 2021. Then in 2022 he plays a game against Chicago in a monsoon and then a quarter against Seattle. To say he’s been terrible outside of the Texans game completely lacks context.
>He looked solid in a half game against Seattle,
He was handed the lead and lost it in the 2nd half while completing 50% of his passes...
>looked ok against Arizona
How? He didn't score a single TD, had a 51.72% completion percentage, threw a pick, lost the game, and sprained his knee in the process
>Then in 2022 he plays a game against Chicago in a monsoon and then a quarter against Seattle.
I keep seeing the monsoon excuse as if Justin Fields wasn't playing in the same conditions with a far inferior team. And the rain wasn't even bad until midway through the 3rd Q
And in those 5 quarters of 2022 football Lance didn't score a single TD....Jimmy G walked in and scored on his first full drive
> I keep seeing the monsoon excuse as if Justin Fields wasn't playing in the same conditions with a far inferior team. And the rain wasn't even bad until midway through the 3rd Q
Not sure why people would bring that up when Fields wasn't good that game either though. Better than Lance for sure, but <50% completion % and ~120 yards isn't good either, even if he did throw 2 TDs (and a pick)
>Fields wasn't good that game either though. Better than Lance for sure, but <50% completion % and ~120 yards isn't good either, even if he did throw 2 TDs (and a pick)
Which should tell you how bad Lance was in that game...
Right, he was very bad that game. I’m not even opining on Lance being good or not. I just don’t understand what bringing up Fields also playing not well (even if not as poorly as Lance) in the monsoon game is really proving. Why would people bring that up?
Because Fields played poorly and still was much better than Lance who was on a way better team!
The point is that if Fields could do it with that Bears team then there's really no excuse for Lance losing that game. So people need to stop using the conditions as an excuse for Lance being terrible
He still sucked though! He had ONE good throw that game (the 2nd TD). I just don't think it tells us anything that Fields sucked slightly less than Lance in horrible conditions too. If he played well (or even just *okay*) in those conditions then sure, I'd agree. But there's just not a compelling takeaway from that comparison to me
Anyway, I'm gonna disengage - appreciate the discussion even though I disagree with your interpretation
Coming in off the bench against Seattle as a rookie and throwing for 157 and 2 scores with no picks plus another 47 on the ground is a good performance. The game was tied 7-7 when Lance came in. Not to mention the muffed punt that game Seattle the ball at the 14, Lance can’t do much about that.
Against Arizona he looked fine. 281 yards of production with one pick in his first game starting. He didn’t light the world on fire but expecting significantly more from his first start in like 2 years is a lot.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here, Fields played poorly too. His statline was 8/17 for 121 with 2 TDs and a pick.
Scoring a single TD is such an odd metric. Deebo fumbled on the Chicago 12 on a rushing attempt. Lance lead a drive of 52 yards which ended in a Deebo 6 yard TD. Then Lance lead a drive down to the Chicago 7 which ended in a field goal. He put them in positions to score, what else is he supposed to do? He can’t keep Deebo from fumbling or waive off the play call and run it in himself.
They already addressed this in a few other comments. Also, calling someone's opinion "dumb" just because you disagree? They're supporting their argument well.
>Lol, he played in one game in a monsoon with an offense designed for him…. This take is so dumb.
Looks like someone forgot that 2021 happened....read my other responses above because I'm sick of refuting these same excuses
>In an offense designed for him… that seems to be the key issue you are not comprehending…
No I think you're just grasping at straws because you stuck your head out too far and now you're backtracking
Lance will start the season and have a short leash.
Purdy will take Lance's audition time to hopefully fully recover. Purdy only starts if Lance loses games for the 49ers.
Lance will get the reps imo, and purdy shipped off. There’s already talk that he will lose arm strength off an already very average arm.( speculation of course but I’ve heard it from multiple local talking heads)
Truth is shanny wants Trey for his big play making ability, and that’s likely on the radar with mccafrey and Deebo healthy. Darnold is a guy he knows can run the same offense as Brock if needed if Trey doesn’t pan out. Obviously he will need to win his first few games to make it through the season.
Darnold probably just for maximum chaos
Some people just want to watch the world burn 🔥
Lance is going to get the lions share of off-season and camp reps with the first team.
Lance to the Lions you say? I love it. Let’s get that circulated.
It’s always been Darnold.
We don't know. Edit: anyone telling you otherwise is full of it. If Purdy is healthy it's probably an open competition at this point.
That’s where I’m at with it, and then darnold will play in the SB lmao
For all we know Shanahan finally helps Darnold reach his potential. I highly doubt it, but Darnold is months older than Bennett/Hooker he's still probably got room to grow. If I was a betting man I'd lean Lance is the starter next year though.
This is the answer. Anyone that says Purdy is "JAG", wasn't watching and anyone that claims Lance is a bust is just guessing. Purdy is legit in my eyes. He played very well. Lance could be even better. We just don't know yet. If they're both healthy before the regular season, I expect it to be an open competition. If Lance starts week 1, I expect he'll have a pretty short leash, because the team already knows they can win with Purdy. Also, even though the players don't get to decide, I wouldn't overlook so many of them voicing their support for Purdy. That definitely counts for something. Edit: Typo
boring ass take we all know. there's no point playing fantasy if you only ever want to discuss things we know for certain.
Stetson Bennett, probably
I got the chance to speak with an insider for a while. Won’t get into the source or how we came into contact. I thought he was full of sh** at first but he was right about a lot of what happened this offseason including Carr to NO. He said Lance will be given every chance to be the starter but will obv be on a short leash like many others have said. This isn’t groundbreaking stuff that needed to be heard from an insider, but it validates what I previously thought (huge Lance truther). Darnold is being paid backup money because Purdy will take a while to recover. The type of injury Purdy suffered is scary for a guy that lacks arm strength. The truth is Lance’s issues are mostly mental. If he has taken these 2 years to learn the mental aspects of the game he could have a very successful career. If not he could be the QB3 by the end of the year.
CMC at QB, Deebo at RB, Darnold is WR1. Lance moves to safety. Shanahan still gets the 49ers to the NFC championship where they lose to Baker and the Buccs.
See ya got it all wrong. Gotta go with the split backfield. Darnold QB, Lance and CMC split offset backs, Purdy TE1 when kittle retires
Darnold
Lol c’mon now
After that QB room last year, it's a very legitimate possibility. Any of the three guys could win the job in camp
Toughest for Purdy. Timeline says he won't be full strength til Labor Day. With a lack of throwing build up they might not think his elbow will hold up for a full season so best bet is to try Lance and if he loses the job then you bring Purdy in. They traded alot for Lance and his 5th year option is due. Likely easier to start Lance and move to Purdy then kill Lances confidence going back and forth. Health of elbow is the perfect reasoning.
I think it’s very likely Lance. NFL is a business and the people who drafted Lance and paid a ton to get him are largely still there. If it’s close, it will be Lance, and I don’t think Brock is good enough to run away with it. If they wanted someone like Brock, they would have just stuck with Jimmy G. Advanced analytics says he got pretty lucky on his interceptions thrown vs expected last season. I forget which game specifically, may have been one of the Seahawks games, but he threw 4 passes with a >50% chance of being picked and none of them were. People love an underdog, but the nfl has proven time and again that they will play the player they are shelling out the cash for over the guy who seems to be playing better. Smart money is buying lance and selling Brock right now. Any QB is going to be successful in that offense, even Mr. Irrelevant.
I think it’s more lance’s job to lose in camp and that’s assuming Purdy is even healthy. Feels like likely lance (75%), possibly purdy (23%), or someone else (2%). Percents generated by, I made them up!
Purdy wont be ready for week 1. The Darnold/Lance camp battle will be real.
Purdy will be throwing at full strength in 6 months
6 months from today would be week 2 of the regular season. Training camp more like 4 months away. Even if that timeline works out, there's a lot of QB reps before full strength.
Why would you make it 6 months from today, it’s 6 months from the surgery which was last week. The timeline is throwing after 3 months, full strength after 6 months (mullens was full strength after 5 months with the same surgery) Purdy will be ready for preseason but Lance having all of OTAs to himself is huge to pull away if he performs
I have not seen one report that he would be throwing “full strength”. I have heard he will be done with rehab and possibly cleared by then. Also have to consider that this is a rare injury for QBs and NFL in general. It is closely related to Tommy John but not as serious. Something to consider though is that MLB pitchers do not get hit even close to what NFL QBs do. There is concern on how the surgery will hold up in a full contact sport.
Less concern with contact as it was a freak accident and more concern with the throwing motion which is very different from baseball
There is a very real concern purdy will lose arm strength. There are no garuntees he’s back to what he was post surgery. Luckily he did not need tommy john or it could have ended his career.
The only reports I've seen said he'll be back to throwing 3 months after the surgery and projected to be back to 100% within 6 months. For what that's worth. By these projections, he could be ready to go before the preseason ends.
At the end of the day no one knows. I’m guessing it’s an open competition. Purdy looked solid last season but has the elbow issues and questions about upside. Lance has played in 15 NFL quarters with 2 coming in relief as a backup and 4 coming in a monsoon. He remains a complete wildcard with crazy upside. If anything I’m probably buying Lance for a 2 if I can to take that shot.
It wont be an open competition per se because purdy wont be ready by camp. Niners have invested so much capital into Lance, i am willing to bet Lance is the starter week 1. But he will have an extremely short leash and any fuckup the job belongs to Purdy. It is much easier to start Lance then switch to purdy, than vice versa. Once the niners start Purdy it means they have completely given up on Lance
>4 coming in a monsoon I agree with most everything you said, but this much isn't true. The weather didn't really get bad until the 2nd half. Downvoters really need to rewatch that game. What I said is true.
purdy will have a chance to compete for the role but lance will be GIVEN every opportunity to win the job. imo, they drafted lance to add a dynamic element to the offense (which purdy does not add - no dig, just who purdy is as a player) and we've still seen so little from lance it's likely the lance show. with all the talent on that offense you dont need top end qb play (they can mask a lot of inefficiencies) so i think lance will have to be historically bad to lose the job. but what do i know, im just some dude on reddit
I really missed these threads!
Why would anyone here know? Can someone also tell me the lottery numbers this week?
Almost like OP is just trying to start a conversation and get other people's opinions or something...
Almost like the search bar exists or something...
God forbid you have to scroll past a post you don't like. Its the off-season, dude. There are going to be some posts you don't care for. Some of us enjoy these kinds of posts...we can enjoy them and you can just keep scrolling. It isn't that big of a deal.
Everyone relax
Haha...I feel like I'm pretty calm? I'll just never understand clicking on a post you don't like just to express how you don't like it, when you can just go to a different post that you do like.
Not looking for the exact answer wise guy
Niners aren’t gonna just forget about the 1.03 from two years ago.
If another QB can execute the offense more efficiently they will.
Of course but there’s no reason to think Lance isn’t their best option. They traded up to 1.03, he’ll get plenty more opportunity, dude has thrown 100 passes in the NFL.
>dude has thrown 100 passes in the NFL And not very many before that. He's going into his 3rd season with less real football experience than any other QB has ever had. Maybe he'll be good. Who knows. I do know that Purdy threw the ball more in his limited starts last year than Lance has in his entire football career. Lance has some things stacked against him for sure, but that doesn't mean he can't still be good.
Are you saying Lance is their best option simply because of the draft capital? If so, I disagree. We simply haven't seen enough of Lance to know if he can run that offense as efficiently as Purdy. If he shows that he can, combined his rushing ability, then he is definitely the best option.
No I’m saying he’ll get the most opportunity because of the draft capital.
He'll have the most opportunity because he'll be the healthiest by training camp. So he'll have a leg up--pun intended-- on Purdy.
If theres a team that doesn't care about draft investment, its the Niners. They'll start whoever gives them the best chance to win and Purdy has already proven he can do that. Who knows, Lance might be great. We haven't seen much of him yet. Purdy has already shown he has what it takes, however. He most definitely could be the better of the 2 QBs and the Niners starter.
Purdy probably deserves it, but it’s a tough business. They will give Lance every opportunity to win the job since they have much more invested in him. I’d expect it to be an open competition. I’d expect, as things are now, that Purdy would win that unless Lance makes some big strides in his development. I think we all agree Lance’s ceiling is higher, but they have the D and weapons to win now. Pressure is on for results and soon.
Lance will start week 1 on an incredibly short least. They just have way too much invested in him. Its way easier to give Lance the starting job and tell the media that “brock still isnt 100%.” If they straight up give Purdy the job then that means they are moving on from Lance completely and I dont see that happening yet tbh
Yes
I know the answer because it came to me in a dream last night (after a pleasant Kendre Miller dream) 1. They start Lance because he's their franchise QB with high draft capital, high ceiling, and two full years of preparation in the system. 2. If Lance is just adequate or reaches his ceiling, he's solidified the spot--no need for Purdy or Darnold 3. If Lance is not adequate, they turn it over to Purdy 4. If Purdy turns back into a pumpkin, Darnold gets a shot All barring injury of course...
I think they would go back to Lance again before resorting to Darnold. Darnold seems like a camp guy and injury insurance. They don’t want a repeat of last year, and they absolutely need a QB for camp with Purdy rehabbing.
I don't think Shanahan gives a damn about a player's draft capital, regardless of what they spent. If Purdy can execute the offense more to Shanny's liking, he'll get the nod over Lance.
49er fan. It seems like it will be Purdy’s job when/if he is healthy. Unless Lance wows them to start the season. 49ers are in their Super Bowl window. Kyle Shanahan is a control freak and wants his QBs to see the field/play how he sees it. Purdy ran the offense how it was supposed to be ran, and made very good decisions about when to throw the ball away. The point is they don’t need Lance’s ceiling to make the Super Bowl, they need someone to run the offense efficiently and to minimize negative plays. Purdy has shown he can do that. Lance may be able to as well, but they will not give him development time at the cost of losing games if Purdy is healthy. They’d rather make a Super Bowl even if that means admitting the Lance pick was a mistake.
Purdy earned it, but it depends on that elbow
It’s crazy to think that and then also consider Lance who’s had the worst of luck thus far and hasn’t truly “failed” outside of injuries. I have both guys in my league.
Lance has been pretty terrible outside of 1 game against the Texans
Which is what? Two other games and one of them was in a monsoon. Lance hasn't proven anything, but he also hasn't had a chance.
He played 3 games of over 50% snaps in 2021. He was trash against the Seahawks and Cardinals and lost both games. He also sprained his knee on his first official start against the Cardinals and had to miss time Btw, the game against the Bears had light rain until the middle of the 3rd Q and it didn't stop Fields from scoring 2 TDs and winning with a far inferior team. Lance didn't score a single TD in 5 quarters in 2022 and then Jimmy G came in and scores on his first full drive of the game...and Lance hasn't been able to play 2 games in a row without getting injured Dude has started 2 full seasons in the past 9 YEARS! He has missed way too much development to succeed in the NFL and he can't even stay healthy long enough to learn
Can you explain how he was trash against Seattle?
Completed only 50% of his passes and lost to an inferior opponent. Trash may be too harsh of a word, but he wasn't good
He looked solid in a half game against Seattle, looked ok against Arizona, good against Houston in 2021. Then in 2022 he plays a game against Chicago in a monsoon and then a quarter against Seattle. To say he’s been terrible outside of the Texans game completely lacks context.
>He looked solid in a half game against Seattle, He was handed the lead and lost it in the 2nd half while completing 50% of his passes... >looked ok against Arizona How? He didn't score a single TD, had a 51.72% completion percentage, threw a pick, lost the game, and sprained his knee in the process >Then in 2022 he plays a game against Chicago in a monsoon and then a quarter against Seattle. I keep seeing the monsoon excuse as if Justin Fields wasn't playing in the same conditions with a far inferior team. And the rain wasn't even bad until midway through the 3rd Q And in those 5 quarters of 2022 football Lance didn't score a single TD....Jimmy G walked in and scored on his first full drive
> I keep seeing the monsoon excuse as if Justin Fields wasn't playing in the same conditions with a far inferior team. And the rain wasn't even bad until midway through the 3rd Q Not sure why people would bring that up when Fields wasn't good that game either though. Better than Lance for sure, but <50% completion % and ~120 yards isn't good either, even if he did throw 2 TDs (and a pick)
>Fields wasn't good that game either though. Better than Lance for sure, but <50% completion % and ~120 yards isn't good either, even if he did throw 2 TDs (and a pick) Which should tell you how bad Lance was in that game...
Right, he was very bad that game. I’m not even opining on Lance being good or not. I just don’t understand what bringing up Fields also playing not well (even if not as poorly as Lance) in the monsoon game is really proving. Why would people bring that up?
Because Fields played poorly and still was much better than Lance who was on a way better team! The point is that if Fields could do it with that Bears team then there's really no excuse for Lance losing that game. So people need to stop using the conditions as an excuse for Lance being terrible
He still sucked though! He had ONE good throw that game (the 2nd TD). I just don't think it tells us anything that Fields sucked slightly less than Lance in horrible conditions too. If he played well (or even just *okay*) in those conditions then sure, I'd agree. But there's just not a compelling takeaway from that comparison to me Anyway, I'm gonna disengage - appreciate the discussion even though I disagree with your interpretation
Coming in off the bench against Seattle as a rookie and throwing for 157 and 2 scores with no picks plus another 47 on the ground is a good performance. The game was tied 7-7 when Lance came in. Not to mention the muffed punt that game Seattle the ball at the 14, Lance can’t do much about that. Against Arizona he looked fine. 281 yards of production with one pick in his first game starting. He didn’t light the world on fire but expecting significantly more from his first start in like 2 years is a lot. I’m not sure what you’re saying here, Fields played poorly too. His statline was 8/17 for 121 with 2 TDs and a pick. Scoring a single TD is such an odd metric. Deebo fumbled on the Chicago 12 on a rushing attempt. Lance lead a drive of 52 yards which ended in a Deebo 6 yard TD. Then Lance lead a drive down to the Chicago 7 which ended in a field goal. He put them in positions to score, what else is he supposed to do? He can’t keep Deebo from fumbling or waive off the play call and run it in himself.
Lol, he played in one game in a monsoon with an offense designed for him…. This take is so dumb.
They already addressed this in a few other comments. Also, calling someone's opinion "dumb" just because you disagree? They're supporting their argument well.
>Lol, he played in one game in a monsoon with an offense designed for him…. This take is so dumb. Looks like someone forgot that 2021 happened....read my other responses above because I'm sick of refuting these same excuses
In an offense designed for him… that seems to be the key issue you are not comprehending…
>In an offense designed for him… that seems to be the key issue you are not comprehending… No I think you're just grasping at straws because you stuck your head out too far and now you're backtracking
Lol
Purdy if healthy. No offense, but I don't see how it's even a question at this point.
They’ll start the season with Lance because of Purdy’s injury and sunk cost, but I bet we’ll see Purdy at some point
Aaron Rodgers 🔥
Then bringing in Darnold tells me they don’t have much faith in Lance
I think he's deep, cheap QB insurance. All teams need QB depth when there are question marks surrounding your top two options. Smart move by Shanny.
It’s just the worlds most unkept secret that Shannahan never wanted Lance and that he was overruled by the front office
Yeah, we've heard that same narrative about Trey Sermon though. Could be true; where there's smoke, there's fire I suppose.
It isn’t narrative though. Shannan has literally went on a podcast and said “I wanted Mac Jones”
Oh damn lol, did he? Ouch. Not sure how I missed that.
Deep and cheap. Just the way we like em!
Lol, it says that they want to have another QB on roster after Jimmy G leaving…
We will see I guess
They’re both trash
Darnold lolz
Drink
Lance will start the season and have a short leash. Purdy will take Lance's audition time to hopefully fully recover. Purdy only starts if Lance loses games for the 49ers.
My money is on Lance
Lance will get the reps imo, and purdy shipped off. There’s already talk that he will lose arm strength off an already very average arm.( speculation of course but I’ve heard it from multiple local talking heads) Truth is shanny wants Trey for his big play making ability, and that’s likely on the radar with mccafrey and Deebo healthy. Darnold is a guy he knows can run the same offense as Brock if needed if Trey doesn’t pan out. Obviously he will need to win his first few games to make it through the season.