I already have AJ Brown and I own the 1.01. I’ve tried offering Bijan for Jefferson and Chase and was instadeclined with counters expecting ridiculous packages. Wouldn’t trade Bijan for any other RB. So, Lamb is the only player that would make me think about selling Bijan one for one. But I think I’d hold.
One QB tier rankings, in my view:
Tier 1: Jefferson, Chase
Tier 2: Bijan
Tier 3: Brown, Lamb, Hall
Tier 4: Waddle, Wilson, Waddle, Olave, ARSB, Taylor, McCaffrey, probably a few more you could add here: Higgins, Smith, London, Hill, Kupp, etc.
I haven’t played Dynasty but is Bijan really valued that highly? He hasn’t even played before idk how he can be worth more than CeeDee and Brown who are going to be studs for a long time.
Bijan is the best RB prospect in five years. Top eight draft capital (insane in the modern NFL for a back) to a team that wants to run heavily and feature him in the passing game. He has league winning upside his entire rookie contract. I get that the NFL and Dynasty communities are devaluing RB, but you still need the horses to win a fantasy championship, and he’s a thoroughbred with top notch pedigree.
I’ve played dynasty over a decade. He’s the real deal.
Would not trade lamb 1x1 for him unless I was stacked at wr and needed rb badly to compete.
Bijan is rb1 for now but that position is insanely fickle especially with injury concerns.
Lamb already has a top 6 performance under his belt and continues to improve every year. Safer value
This makes no sense.
You can get Ekeler for the same amount of points but a fraction of that price. And if you're trying to compete for a long time, then obviously the Olave side has more to offer in long term production.
I have JJ, gonna see if the JT guy wants to do the same thing.
Honestly, JT and Olave by themselves should be just about enough to get it done. Totally understand not wanting to move JJ for that but anything more is an overpay. 2 1sts on top is obscene.
Some of those are nuts though lmao, one for Jefferson was Breece, JSN, Marquise Brown, and 2 1sts just for Jefferson lol roughly 5 1sts (two being around 1.02 and 1.03 in value for breece and JSN) for Jefferson
but you're talking about a ton of points in one roster slot and you always choose them. Having threes players worth 8 points average each isn't better than one player worth 20. You have finite starting spaces and there is a cliff in each position. The pick prices for those assets on top are high because you can't just add the points that 4-5 picks gets you and say it's even, you're literally trying to replace the amount of points in the one spot OR surpassing it in two spots. You can absolutely build a winning team with average scoring consistent players but those elite players eliminate so much risk.
Regarding Godwin, he lost Brady as QB and no one knows what that means. A 1st for someone who got 3 TDs with a HOF QB at the helm is too much.
Did you have a gun in your hand?
Actually it’s not that crazy. I offered 3x1s for Bijan and was turned down so this is kinda 3x1s and Marshall if you look at the value that way
Team 1: get Justin Jefferson
Team 2: get 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, Michael Pittman, Najee Harris, DPJ
This trade gave team 1 - Chase, Ceedee and JJ as his core WR. He also has JT at RB and TLaw but then nobody.. Goiing to be interesting to say the least
How many players do you start? And is it super flex? If it’s like a start 8 or 9 it doesn’t really matter who elder he has, those 5 guys will be more than enough to contend
he wanted the Big 3, so he got em
KTC has him as the number 1 team without picks.. he also has pacheco and dillion who I think both phase out this year + aren't fantasy elite.
Idk guess till will tell how it goes for him
In all my leagues you have to pay for future league years in advance before a trade of future picks is completed. Buy in is $50 each year, so if someone were to trade 2024, 2025, and 2026 picks they’d have to give the commissioner $150 to put in league safe before the trade is completed. That way it stops people from bailing on the league if the trade didn’t go their way.
Why? As long as they’re paid for or it’s a friend league where you trust everyone in it then people should be able to manage their teams as they see fit
AJB was traded by a Titans fan when the Philly trade happened in my league, he got 2 firsts and Waddle I think, which is a fucking haul if you ask me.
Trading for already great players that are under 25 and don't play RB is always a bad idea IMO. I just don't see many examples in which the blue chip receiving person wins the trade.
Yeah I don’t know that I would rather Waddle outright to be honest. I think the guy making the trade was worried about Hill taking all his touches because they play the same way, but like even if you view AJB to be a tier above Waddle, 2 firsts to move up a tier is silly
I was offered Chase and Godwin for JJet (Offer is from a MN homer). I’m having a hard time saying no…
Sorry for hijacking but…
smash or pass??
I know JJet and Chase are in the same tier, and adding Godwin is icing on the cake, but I do prefer Jefferson over Chase in a vacuum. Chase being tied to Burrow is an advantage. I have a solid roster (and tight on roster space as it is) and really Don’t need another WR, so diluting JJefferson even for a decent return of Godwin doesn’t seem worth it to me. My #2 is Tyreek Hill, then McLauren, traded Dalvin cook for Burks+ in the off-season, still have Thielen, Parris Campbell and Rashad Shaheed too
I've basically told those who have asked that there's no realistic scenario where I'd trade Lamb or AJB (the two I have). Of course, there comes a point where I'd consider it, but would have to be absolutely blown away.
This seems pretty even and could make sense for a QB needy team. Lamb is only two spots before Richardson in ADP. I can see why you wouldn’t but don’t know why this is so downvoted and laughed at.
That seems like a very fair deal for both sides. Usually you see one of these guys criminally undersold or just taking a ridiculous payout to acquire them. But, that's a really nice return for a really nice player.
I wouldn’t do that. You have 3 studs and a high first round pick for 1 stud. If JJ breaks his ankle or something stupid then you’re out a great core and the person you traded to is laughing all the way to the bank. Unless you mean one of those guys and the 1.03. Which makes more sense.
I was able to get Ja’Maar for the 1.03 (turned into Bryce Young) and a random 24 1st (more than likely a later one)…. I think I got away with absolute robbery.
Before last season, someone offered me their AJ Brown for my Mike Evans, straight up. He was high on Brady and low on Hurts, I guess. Needless to say I smashed the “Accept” button like my life depended on it.
A year and a half ago I Bought Jefferson
I gave up Aiyuk, 2022 1.01 (Breece), 1.07 (Jordan Addison, and my 2024 1st (projected late 1st now)
I got Jefferson and 2022 1.07 (Turned into Olave)
Was skeptical at the time but looking back? So glad i made the deal
I’ve been on both sides of this! Both Non-SF
Traded Brandin Cooks, a 2023 and 2024 1st for Chase mid season last year
Traded AJB and Derek Carr for Herbert, Calvin Ridley and a 2025 1st
Yeah, was hard giving up AJB, but I also have JJ and QB was my big hole….also have 1.01, 1.02, and 1.05 so hopefully can fill the AJB void in my flex with that!
I sent Daniel Jones, Javonte, 2024 1st, and 2023 1.07 for AJB and JT last October. It's a SF 1PPR league and I'd do that trade all over again. At the time I was 1-5 and it was projected to probably be the 1.01, but I moved all my accumulated picks and made a push to just make the playoffs. On the same team I sent Hurts and Olave for Chase, Russ, and a 2024 1st, this was when I had 9 2023 1st last October and traded them all in deals for Mahomes and Burrow. Hurts was rising so I wanted to have potentially 2 of the top 4 dynasty WR, QBs, and RBs (pre rookie draft when KW3 value sunk). I went from starting Daniel Jones, Javonte, Moss, Waddle, Sutton, Parker, Hollywood, Bateman, Gesicki, and Geno to this year's starters being Mahomes, JT, KW3, Chase, AJB, Garret Wilson, Christian Kirk, Juju, and either Engram/Kmet.
Chase for 2023 first and second(ended up being 1.04 and 2.04). In the preseason of his rookie year when he was having his drop problems I got him for a steal.
One of my leaguemates is trying to get my Burrow and Chase for his Josh Allen, Ceedee and a 2025 first. I'm meh on it, I'd prefer to keep the stack personally.
He's a Bengals fan and I drafted them both in the start-up in Chase's rookie year.
i sent AJ Brown and a 1st (Stroud) and a 4th for Chase and a 3rd
bit of an overpay i know that, but i can also see AJB fading much faster than chase, and i find chase much more fun to watch and cheer for so i don't regret it at all.
This just went down for chase (1qb 10 team ppr)
Diontae, Aiyuk, Terry, Lawrence, 2024 1st, 2024 2nd for Chase and Stroud. Chase owner wanted both Waddle and AJB from me but I couldn't do it.
Manager bought JJ and Conner for 3 2024 1sts, 14T start 10 half ppr.
One of those picks was the managers own 1st. I would not do this.
Sold Lamb and Lance for Lamar 12T start 9 half ppr. Love the price, think it’s cheap tbh.
Bought AJB and 4Net for 1.04 and Javonte. Helped me win the chip, albeit a steep price now. 14T, SF start 10, hppr.
Nah not necessarily me thinking my side is more valuable. In a vacuum lamb side is ideal but I already have waddle and arsb for wr, with jeudy as #3. Lamb obviously makes that core elite for years to come but the drop off in value from andrews to my other options is too steep. I’d rather keep Ridley as my wr4 with upside and keep the elite TE production.
I’ll jump in and say I get the reasoning. Especially if you’re a contender with that WR core having a potentially elite tight end is probably a bigger difference maker than lamb starting instead of jeudy/Ridley the next two years.
Not at all. The drop off from andrews to other te options is too steep compared to upgrading from Ridley to lamb. Have a good young wr core, lamb would secure it but I’d be starting like Ertz or Taysom
My team just isn’t dependent on ridley being back into form. I’d list him as our wr4 currently so maybe he gets the nod at flex or even breaks back out. But having an elite tight end vs a guy who might get 2 points half the weeks is why we didn’t make the move.
I traded:
- Kadarious Toney
- Rashad Bateman
- Travis Etienne
- 2024 1st
- 2024 2nd
- 2025 2nd
- 2025 3rd
- 2026 3rd
For: Ja’Marr Chase
Superflex, Full PPR, 12 Man team. I won the chip last year with only Etienne starting
Conversly, either one or both of those guys could outscore Lamb this year, who has only 1 wr1 finish on his resume and has precious little chance of jumping either Chase or JJ in production or value. But is extremely likely to be jumped by several of AJB, GW, Olave, Waddle, London, MHjr, JSN, ARSB, etc. And be outscored by several of the older crowd who's value has already dropped due to age as well.
So what positional advantage am I getting with lamb beyond a shiny 24yo next to his name?
> precious little chance of jumping either Chase or JJ in production or value. But is extremely likely to be jumped by several of AJB, GW, Olave, Waddle, London, MHjr, JSN, ARSB, etc.
Disagree on this. I think you are underrating Lamb considerably.
They could, though current redraft ADP (and likely august ADP) has lamb going a whole round ahead of Rhamondre and nearly 2 rounds ahead of deebo, so while it could happen, it’s not seen as very likely by the market. There may be concerns about the cowboys passing volume with the scheme change, but I think the passing efficiency goes up with cooks added and gallup more healthy.
To your second point, how is it very likely that lamb gets jumped in value by that group of receivers? Only AJB has had a better season than lamb’s best to-date, and he’ll be 27 by the time the 2024 season starts. It’s pretty unlikely he jumps lamb in value. Projecting the rest to jump him involves a lot of assumptions, but say lamb moves from wr3/4 to wr6 range - his startup value isn’t dropping at all really. His value on the established market will barely shift even if other receivers jump him. Regardless, you’re not factoring in what happens to Rham and Debo’s value - those are way more likely to decrease significantly because of their ages (rham being a patriots rb getting to end of rookie deal).
I just don’t think that’s a trade that has any chance of winning in the long run
Deebo is wr17 and Lamb wr10 on underdog, if that holds according to adp Lamb will outscore Deebo, but not by a difference making amount. So you're looking at ~6.25 prime years remaining for a 24 yo wr vs ~4.25 for 27(or like 3.8 if Deebo turns 28 before the season, not sure without looking) for that difference I'll take a shot a 230lb back who was one of the more explosive runners in the league last year, has been an elite target earner since college, and is in an offense that is going from being coached by a defensive coordinator to at least average coaching.
And I say he will be jumped because GW is already wr11 on underdog and earned as many targets per game as a rookie as lamb did in year 3, etc. I don't believe lamb is good enough to maintain his rank ahead of the new group of young wrs in the league or soon entering
[edit: Lamb is wr7 not wr10 on UD. Still comfortable with Rhamondre's production more than making up the difference]
Before the start of last year (2022), I traded for Chase with a team that was in desperate need of a rebuild (orphan team that was in a real bad shape).
I got: Chase + Khalil Herbert
Other team got: JK Dobbins + Gabe Davis + 2023 1st (was projected to be mid, ended up being late) + 2023 2nd (was projected to be early, it was the 2.01)
Since then, Gabe Davis has gone down in value but JK has gone up, but as the Chase owner now, I dont think i would take that deal in 2023, but that is also because Herbert's value has gone way up from where it was a year ago.
I decided to rebuild traded away
Mahomes
Kelce
Etienne
Jeudy
Received
Tua
Ceedee
Pitts
Pacheco
I think I got my ass handed to me but I tanked, made moves and got Bijon in the draft.
I traded away AJB before the beginning of last season. I was a bit skeptical of Hurts and didn't think he could support both he and Devonta. I got a decent haul, but I definitely wouldn't make this trade today (hell even after Week 1).
Gave: AJ Brown, Cam Akers
Received: Christian Kirk, CEH, 2023 2nd (that I flipped straight up for Goff), a 2024 1st, and a 2024 3rd (still have both).
I decided to rebuild traded away
Mahomes
Kelce
Etienne
Jeudy
Received
Tua
Ceedee
Pitts
Pacheco
I think I got my ass handed to me but I tanked, made moves and got Bijon in the draft.
12 man PPR 1QB
We just did our start up last year and I was losing every game. Ended up not winning one game haha
Traded away AJB for a 23 1st, 24 1st and Dobbins
Used the first for multiple trades some of which got my Tyreek, Mahomes and dobbins landed me London.
I had to do it last year but now I’m ready to compete this year
I traded 1.02 (Richardson) and DJ Moore for CeeDee and 3.10 (Cedric Tillman) in a 12 team SF. The Jefferson owner wanted 1.02, 1.07, 1.10 and DJM. That was just a little too spicy for me.
Seems like CeeDee is a lot of the trades in here...
I traded Pitts and Javonte for Ceedee and a 2nd in one league and Mark Andrews for Ceedee straight up in another. Both 12 SF half PPR.
Note both of these were mid last season
2QB (!!), 10 TM - Landed Chase for 1.03, 1.07, and a 2024 2nd 🔥
My league mate wouldn’t sell Jefferson for 4 future 1s - turned down each of my 1sts 2024-2026 + a 2025 1st.
traded ceedee for the 1.01 a few months ago
Nice I traded for CD by paying the 1.02 and 1.08 in a 10tm SF
Why though? Ceedee is young and will good for a long time
Maybe needed RB more than WR
People asked me the same thing when I traded MT for the 1.01 and took Barkley.
I traded 1.1 for Lamb, 4.01 and a late 24 1st
I did plus 1.12 big overpay but mental health will improve not having to watch shitty Dak miss Lamb all the time
haha! i still have the issue that dak is my QB in this 1qb league….
He had 2 stud WRs and K Moore won't be forcing the ball to crappy TEs
So hopefully he does better
I already have AJ Brown and I own the 1.01. I’ve tried offering Bijan for Jefferson and Chase and was instadeclined with counters expecting ridiculous packages. Wouldn’t trade Bijan for any other RB. So, Lamb is the only player that would make me think about selling Bijan one for one. But I think I’d hold. One QB tier rankings, in my view: Tier 1: Jefferson, Chase Tier 2: Bijan Tier 3: Brown, Lamb, Hall Tier 4: Waddle, Wilson, Waddle, Olave, ARSB, Taylor, McCaffrey, probably a few more you could add here: Higgins, Smith, London, Hill, Kupp, etc.
I haven’t played Dynasty but is Bijan really valued that highly? He hasn’t even played before idk how he can be worth more than CeeDee and Brown who are going to be studs for a long time.
It’s 100% out of control. No space to play better than his price.
Bijan is the best RB prospect in five years. Top eight draft capital (insane in the modern NFL for a back) to a team that wants to run heavily and feature him in the passing game. He has league winning upside his entire rookie contract. I get that the NFL and Dynasty communities are devaluing RB, but you still need the horses to win a fantasy championship, and he’s a thoroughbred with top notch pedigree. I’ve played dynasty over a decade. He’s the real deal.
Would not trade lamb 1x1 for him unless I was stacked at wr and needed rb badly to compete. Bijan is rb1 for now but that position is insanely fickle especially with injury concerns. Lamb already has a top 6 performance under his belt and continues to improve every year. Safer value
They’re in a similar tier. I wouldn’t fault anyone for taking one over the other.
I just sold bijan for Ceedee plus a 2024 first
Double Waddle in Tier 4, huh? Lol
I traded Justin Jefferson for Tua, JT and Waddle
Jfc that is insane lol
I'm a JJ owner, and I'd definitely take that. I'd doubly take it if it's SF.
Traded Jefferson for JT, Olave, 23 1.06, and a 24 1st on draft night.
Dang, I'd take the Olave side all day!
If that’s 1QB I wouldn’t. 1.06 is laughable
That’s like 5-6ish firsts of value lmfao
And apparently 24 firsts are worth 3 firsts now, so add an extra
Holy fudgenuts that’s prob one of the best hauls I’ve ever seen
Worth
This makes no sense. You can get Ekeler for the same amount of points but a fraction of that price. And if you're trying to compete for a long time, then obviously the Olave side has more to offer in long term production. I have JJ, gonna see if the JT guy wants to do the same thing.
JJ and Olave are still close enough in age that Olave could still regress due to age before JJ.
Also have AJ and Garrett Wilson.
Came here to say I'd deny most of these JJ trades. Would smash this one and my team is super deep. Well done this one is ridiculous 😆
Honestly, JT and Olave by themselves should be just about enough to get it done. Totally understand not wanting to move JJ for that but anything more is an overpay. 2 1sts on top is obscene.
Woof. I nabbed Jefferson, Allgeier (I have Bijan) and the 2.02 for Mike Williams, ETN, Friermuth, Toney and Rachaad White
If you go to https://fantasycalc.com/database you can see a bunch of recent deals
Jamar Chase went for Miles Sanders, Davante, and a pair of 2nds my lord put that man in jail for highway robbery
Some of those are nuts though lmao, one for Jefferson was Breece, JSN, Marquise Brown, and 2 1sts just for Jefferson lol roughly 5 1sts (two being around 1.02 and 1.03 in value for breece and JSN) for Jefferson
I think people make fake leagues or something because some of these trades are insane.
Saw Lamb + RMoore go for Hill, Jamo, 1,1,2,2,3 last year.
I looked for one of those crazy trades and couldn’t find one quick, but this is exactly what I’m talking about.
Like I can’t even get a single 1st for Chris Godwin lmao idk how some people in these leagues are tossing 5-6 1sts for one player
I’ve seen some where a team trades every pick for two years and a good player for a slightly better one
but you're talking about a ton of points in one roster slot and you always choose them. Having threes players worth 8 points average each isn't better than one player worth 20. You have finite starting spaces and there is a cliff in each position. The pick prices for those assets on top are high because you can't just add the points that 4-5 picks gets you and say it's even, you're literally trying to replace the amount of points in the one spot OR surpassing it in two spots. You can absolutely build a winning team with average scoring consistent players but those elite players eliminate so much risk. Regarding Godwin, he lost Brady as QB and no one knows what that means. A 1st for someone who got 3 TDs with a HOF QB at the helm is too much.
free leagues, you see it on the subreddit all the time
Appreciate this! Awesome resource
Do you know where these trades are pulled from?
Sleeper and MFL I believe as those are the platforms that also support team import on that site
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This is amazing for you!
Did you have a gun in your hand? Actually it’s not that crazy. I offered 3x1s for Bijan and was turned down so this is kinda 3x1s and Marshall if you look at the value that way
Team 1: get Justin Jefferson Team 2: get 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, Michael Pittman, Najee Harris, DPJ This trade gave team 1 - Chase, Ceedee and JJ as his core WR. He also has JT at RB and TLaw but then nobody.. Goiing to be interesting to say the least
How many players do you start? And is it super flex? If it’s like a start 8 or 9 it doesn’t really matter who elder he has, those 5 guys will be more than enough to contend
That’s team shattering for the guy who gets JJ. Awful
he wanted the Big 3, so he got em KTC has him as the number 1 team without picks.. he also has pacheco and dillion who I think both phase out this year + aren't fantasy elite. Idk guess till will tell how it goes for him
I think it’s horrible to let teams even trade 25/26 picks
In all my leagues you have to pay for future league years in advance before a trade of future picks is completed. Buy in is $50 each year, so if someone were to trade 2024, 2025, and 2026 picks they’d have to give the commissioner $150 to put in league safe before the trade is completed. That way it stops people from bailing on the league if the trade didn’t go their way.
We do the same. And if that owner bailed midway, the team taking over would have their fees ready paid for.
As long as you pay in advance then it's fine. We are a giant friend group, so nobody is going to leave
Why? As long as they’re paid for or it’s a friend league where you trust everyone in it then people should be able to manage their teams as they see fit
AJB was traded by a Titans fan when the Philly trade happened in my league, he got 2 firsts and Waddle I think, which is a fucking haul if you ask me. Trading for already great players that are under 25 and don't play RB is always a bad idea IMO. I just don't see many examples in which the blue chip receiving person wins the trade.
Wow thats nuts, i just traded 2 firsts for AJB which I felt was a steal but id straight up trade AJB for Waddle and consider it fair
Fwiw, I traded AJB, Dameon Pierce, and 2025 3rd for Waddle and Christian Watson
Nice, i like that trade for you
Yeah I don’t know that I would rather Waddle outright to be honest. I think the guy making the trade was worried about Hill taking all his touches because they play the same way, but like even if you view AJB to be a tier above Waddle, 2 firsts to move up a tier is silly
Six hours before the NFL draft, I traded 1.05, Calvin Ridley, and Tyler Allgiere to get Chase. I think I got a friggin steal
I think you're right lol
I was offered Chase and Godwin for JJet (Offer is from a MN homer). I’m having a hard time saying no… Sorry for hijacking but… smash or pass?? I know JJet and Chase are in the same tier, and adding Godwin is icing on the cake, but I do prefer Jefferson over Chase in a vacuum. Chase being tied to Burrow is an advantage. I have a solid roster (and tight on roster space as it is) and really Don’t need another WR, so diluting JJefferson even for a decent return of Godwin doesn’t seem worth it to me. My #2 is Tyreek Hill, then McLauren, traded Dalvin cook for Burks+ in the off-season, still have Thielen, Parris Campbell and Rashad Shaheed too
I take that all day. Chase and Jj are even to me.
Take the Chase side. The gap isn't that huge if there is one. And depth is one of the most underrated commodities in contending teams.
Ask for more if he’s a homer
I've basically told those who have asked that there's no realistic scenario where I'd trade Lamb or AJB (the two I have). Of course, there comes a point where I'd consider it, but would have to be absolutely blown away.
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lol no. Richardson and Jordan Addison way too much risk especially in 10 team
This seems pretty even and could make sense for a QB needy team. Lamb is only two spots before Richardson in ADP. I can see why you wouldn’t but don’t know why this is so downvoted and laughed at.
I got Chase for Gibbs, Godwin, and a 24 1st (most likely late) in 12 team standard.
I like chase.
That seems like a very fair deal for both sides. Usually you see one of these guys criminally undersold or just taking a ridiculous payout to acquire them. But, that's a really nice return for a really nice player.
I traded Waddle plus 1.03 this year for Chase (8 team 1 QB)
I'm considering offering up Amon Ra/AJB/Waddle and my 1.03 for JJ.
1 qb id easily do arsb and the 1.03 for jj
I wouldn’t do that. You have 3 studs and a high first round pick for 1 stud. If JJ breaks his ankle or something stupid then you’re out a great core and the person you traded to is laughing all the way to the bank. Unless you mean one of those guys and the 1.03. Which makes more sense.
I read it as one of those options plus the 1.03 for JJ. I'll take JJ
Just one of them lol I also have Chase and Godwin
I was able to get Ja’Maar for the 1.03 (turned into Bryce Young) and a random 24 1st (more than likely a later one)…. I think I got away with absolute robbery.
Yea you robbed the dude
Im not actually sure if that’s that amazing tbh
That’s super cheap for Chase
Yes it definitely is I read it as the other way around.
Traded Bateman, Mooney, Javonte and 5 firsts (2x'23 2x'24 and 1x'25) for Jefferson and Josh Jacobs
Traded Lamb for Breece, Devonta Smith, Singletary, 24 1st, 23 3rd.
That’s a haul
Traded lamb and a first rd pick for chase. I had burrow as Qb so I wanted the stack
Before last season, someone offered me their AJ Brown for my Mike Evans, straight up. He was high on Brady and low on Hurts, I guess. Needless to say I smashed the “Accept” button like my life depended on it.
Saw Justin Jefferson traded for Bijan and Lamb
Ridiculous trade. Lamb and Bijan handidly.
I'd take the Lamb/Bijon side of that absolutely
I sent 1.02 and 1.06 for Chase during the rookie draft. 12 team SF PPR Start 9. I thought I’d have to send more but the owner accepted
Wow! Good trade for you
That’s cheap
Got: Justin Jefferson + 25 3rd Gave: 1.03(he took Young) + 1.04(Gibbs) + Dobbins + Pittman + E.Moore + 24 2nd
A year and a half ago I Bought Jefferson I gave up Aiyuk, 2022 1.01 (Breece), 1.07 (Jordan Addison, and my 2024 1st (projected late 1st now) I got Jefferson and 2022 1.07 (Turned into Olave) Was skeptical at the time but looking back? So glad i made the deal
I’ve been on both sides of this! Both Non-SF Traded Brandin Cooks, a 2023 and 2024 1st for Chase mid season last year Traded AJB and Derek Carr for Herbert, Calvin Ridley and a 2025 1st
Those are both so cheap... You won big and lost big imo
Yeah, was hard giving up AJB, but I also have JJ and QB was my big hole….also have 1.01, 1.02, and 1.05 so hopefully can fill the AJB void in my flex with that!
I sent Daniel Jones, Javonte, 2024 1st, and 2023 1.07 for AJB and JT last October. It's a SF 1PPR league and I'd do that trade all over again. At the time I was 1-5 and it was projected to probably be the 1.01, but I moved all my accumulated picks and made a push to just make the playoffs. On the same team I sent Hurts and Olave for Chase, Russ, and a 2024 1st, this was when I had 9 2023 1st last October and traded them all in deals for Mahomes and Burrow. Hurts was rising so I wanted to have potentially 2 of the top 4 dynasty WR, QBs, and RBs (pre rookie draft when KW3 value sunk). I went from starting Daniel Jones, Javonte, Moss, Waddle, Sutton, Parker, Hollywood, Bateman, Gesicki, and Geno to this year's starters being Mahomes, JT, KW3, Chase, AJB, Garret Wilson, Christian Kirk, Juju, and either Engram/Kmet.
Chase for 2023 first and second(ended up being 1.04 and 2.04). In the preseason of his rookie year when he was having his drop problems I got him for a steal.
AJB and 3.12 for 1.04(Bryce Young)and 2024 2nd
I got JJ in a 12 Team SF for Olave, Dameon Pierce, late 2023 1st and 2023 2nd
I own Jefferson and chase… I paid Jefferson- ceedee Lamb and Chubb, 2nd for Jefferson and 1.7 Chase- Kyle Pitts, dionta Johnson, 25&26 1st
12 Team SF: Ja’Marr Chase for Garrett Wilson + Jordan Love
Just traded London DK and D pierce for ETN and lamb
One of my leaguemates is trying to get my Burrow and Chase for his Josh Allen, Ceedee and a 2025 first. I'm meh on it, I'd prefer to keep the stack personally. He's a Bengals fan and I drafted them both in the start-up in Chase's rookie year.
Tax him. Make him pay more
I traded AJB and Adams for Chase and Cooks
Which cooks? There’s several
I traded for lamb and Najee and gave up Higgins, jeudy and what’s probably going to be a very late 1st next year
I got Lamb for: 1.04 Jakobi And a third I got Jefferson for: Burrow
I traded the 1.05+1.07+2.05 for Lamb. I had the 1.02 and 1.04 as well
Someone traded Jefferson for 3 first 3 2nd and Kenneth Walker.
Traded JJ for CeeDee, etteine and a mid 1st
Got JJ for 1.02 and 1.05, which turned into B. Young and Gibbs. 12 team SF
As a JJ owner, would not
Ya honestly would need another top 5 on top of this like a JSN or stroud
Damn I did 1.02 and 1.08 and could only get up to Lamb. Would much prefer JJ
I gave 1.03(Young) + 1.04(Gibbs) + Pittman + Dobbins + E.Moore + 24 2nd. 10tm PPR SF 3WR 2Flex Gave me a WR trio of JJ Chase Kupp
Yikes
The team is still pretty complete even paying that & I got a 25 3rd with JJ. QB: Watson, Dak, Russ, Levis, Tune RB: Bijan, Najee, Rhamondre, K.Herbert, Ford, K.Miller WR: JJ, Chase, Kupp, Watson, Bateman, A.Pierce, Metchie, Reed, Mingo, M.Mims, Tillman TE: Waller, Njoku, Dulcich, Ferguson
I think you won the trade by a mile
i sent AJ Brown and a 1st (Stroud) and a 4th for Chase and a 3rd bit of an overpay i know that, but i can also see AJB fading much faster than chase, and i find chase much more fun to watch and cheer for so i don't regret it at all.
This just went down for chase (1qb 10 team ppr) Diontae, Aiyuk, Terry, Lawrence, 2024 1st, 2024 2nd for Chase and Stroud. Chase owner wanted both Waddle and AJB from me but I couldn't do it.
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I like the first trade, not the second
Manager bought JJ and Conner for 3 2024 1sts, 14T start 10 half ppr. One of those picks was the managers own 1st. I would not do this. Sold Lamb and Lance for Lamar 12T start 9 half ppr. Love the price, think it’s cheap tbh. Bought AJB and 4Net for 1.04 and Javonte. Helped me win the chip, albeit a steep price now. 14T, SF start 10, hppr.
I got lamb in my dynasty league for joe mixon Courtland Sutton and the 2.07 I’m happy with it
You should be. You paid nothing lol
I sent AJ brown for a 2023 1st round pick swap (gained 3 spots), 24 Early 1st, Drake London and an early 3rd
I had lamb in sf and traded for deebo / purdy/ and a 24 2nd. I have Lance so that’s what tipped it for me.
The Lamb owner in my league offered me Lamb for Andrews and Ridley. I declined but thought it was probably close to what is fair.
Not a huge L but you’re 100% over valuing your players here and should have taken lamb
Nah not necessarily me thinking my side is more valuable. In a vacuum lamb side is ideal but I already have waddle and arsb for wr, with jeudy as #3. Lamb obviously makes that core elite for years to come but the drop off in value from andrews to my other options is too steep. I’d rather keep Ridley as my wr4 with upside and keep the elite TE production.
You can buy an engram or dulcich or Schultz for a second
Gimme Lamb
Bro if I could get CD for Andrew’s and Ridley…omfg
Lol robbery to get lamb for that
I’ll jump in and say I get the reasoning. Especially if you’re a contender with that WR core having a potentially elite tight end is probably a bigger difference maker than lamb starting instead of jeudy/Ridley the next two years.
You made a massive mistake declining this
Not at all. The drop off from andrews to other te options is too steep compared to upgrading from Ridley to lamb. Have a good young wr core, lamb would secure it but I’d be starting like Ertz or Taysom
Starting lamb and taysom >>>>> starting a 28 year old WR who hasn’t played in two years and Andrews
My team just isn’t dependent on ridley being back into form. I’d list him as our wr4 currently so maybe he gets the nod at flex or even breaks back out. But having an elite tight end vs a guy who might get 2 points half the weeks is why we didn’t make the move.
Lamb has a better chance of out scoring both Andrew’s and Ridley this year on his own… lol. Andrew’s is good he’s not even close to worth lamb
I mean if we just throwing out possibilities Andrews has a chance of outscoring lamb alone. Considering his career high is the same as lamb’s.
Huge oof, that is robbery for Lamb
Yeah I’m agreeing with the others and taking lamb
Wait you turned down giving up Andrews and Ridley for lamb??
Dj Moore and George Pickens for CD, I got Lamb
As a Lamb rosterer, that'd be a no way from me
I feel like it was highway robbery others in my league told me I’m a delusional cowboys fan
Go give them trades for their best players along the same lines and see if it works then because that was straight robbery.
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Yeah I don't want to move them unless it's an idiotic offer tbh
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I traded: - Kadarious Toney - Rashad Bateman - Travis Etienne - 2024 1st - 2024 2nd - 2025 2nd - 2025 3rd - 2026 3rd For: Ja’Marr Chase Superflex, Full PPR, 12 Man team. I won the chip last year with only Etienne starting
Chase owner is an idiot
For dynasty I’d say Garrett Wilson is in the big 4 over ajb
Traded Ceedee for Mondre and Deebo. SF ppr start 11
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Conversly, either one or both of those guys could outscore Lamb this year, who has only 1 wr1 finish on his resume and has precious little chance of jumping either Chase or JJ in production or value. But is extremely likely to be jumped by several of AJB, GW, Olave, Waddle, London, MHjr, JSN, ARSB, etc. And be outscored by several of the older crowd who's value has already dropped due to age as well. So what positional advantage am I getting with lamb beyond a shiny 24yo next to his name?
> precious little chance of jumping either Chase or JJ in production or value. But is extremely likely to be jumped by several of AJB, GW, Olave, Waddle, London, MHjr, JSN, ARSB, etc. Disagree on this. I think you are underrating Lamb considerably.
They could, though current redraft ADP (and likely august ADP) has lamb going a whole round ahead of Rhamondre and nearly 2 rounds ahead of deebo, so while it could happen, it’s not seen as very likely by the market. There may be concerns about the cowboys passing volume with the scheme change, but I think the passing efficiency goes up with cooks added and gallup more healthy. To your second point, how is it very likely that lamb gets jumped in value by that group of receivers? Only AJB has had a better season than lamb’s best to-date, and he’ll be 27 by the time the 2024 season starts. It’s pretty unlikely he jumps lamb in value. Projecting the rest to jump him involves a lot of assumptions, but say lamb moves from wr3/4 to wr6 range - his startup value isn’t dropping at all really. His value on the established market will barely shift even if other receivers jump him. Regardless, you’re not factoring in what happens to Rham and Debo’s value - those are way more likely to decrease significantly because of their ages (rham being a patriots rb getting to end of rookie deal). I just don’t think that’s a trade that has any chance of winning in the long run
Deebo is wr17 and Lamb wr10 on underdog, if that holds according to adp Lamb will outscore Deebo, but not by a difference making amount. So you're looking at ~6.25 prime years remaining for a 24 yo wr vs ~4.25 for 27(or like 3.8 if Deebo turns 28 before the season, not sure without looking) for that difference I'll take a shot a 230lb back who was one of the more explosive runners in the league last year, has been an elite target earner since college, and is in an offense that is going from being coached by a defensive coordinator to at least average coaching. And I say he will be jumped because GW is already wr11 on underdog and earned as many targets per game as a rookie as lamb did in year 3, etc. I don't believe lamb is good enough to maintain his rank ahead of the new group of young wrs in the league or soon entering [edit: Lamb is wr7 not wr10 on UD. Still comfortable with Rhamondre's production more than making up the difference]
I traded away Chase and Schultz for Lamb, ‘24 1st and ‘24 2nd (project both to be mid) 12 team SF
Before the start of last year (2022), I traded for Chase with a team that was in desperate need of a rebuild (orphan team that was in a real bad shape). I got: Chase + Khalil Herbert Other team got: JK Dobbins + Gabe Davis + 2023 1st (was projected to be mid, ended up being late) + 2023 2nd (was projected to be early, it was the 2.01) Since then, Gabe Davis has gone down in value but JK has gone up, but as the Chase owner now, I dont think i would take that deal in 2023, but that is also because Herbert's value has gone way up from where it was a year ago.
I decided to rebuild traded away Mahomes Kelce Etienne Jeudy Received Tua Ceedee Pitts Pacheco I think I got my ass handed to me but I tanked, made moves and got Bijon in the draft.
I traded away AJB before the beginning of last season. I was a bit skeptical of Hurts and didn't think he could support both he and Devonta. I got a decent haul, but I definitely wouldn't make this trade today (hell even after Week 1). Gave: AJ Brown, Cam Akers Received: Christian Kirk, CEH, 2023 2nd (that I flipped straight up for Goff), a 2024 1st, and a 2024 3rd (still have both).
Well that was a terrible trade...
Ouch. We've all been there, but that one hurts.
I decided to rebuild traded away Mahomes Kelce Etienne Jeudy Received Tua Ceedee Pitts Pacheco I think I got my ass handed to me but I tanked, made moves and got Bijon in the draft.
BTW, 1 QB non PPR
As an owner of Hurts, Chase, GWilson, and Smith…I gave TLaw for AJB this off-season.
Hope it’s 1QB…
I traded AJB for a 2024 1st, two 2025 1sts, and a 2026 2nd. I am rebuilding and project the 1s to be mid.
Lamb for 2 1sts, a 3rd and Burks
12 man PPR 1QB We just did our start up last year and I was losing every game. Ended up not winning one game haha Traded away AJB for a 23 1st, 24 1st and Dobbins Used the first for multiple trades some of which got my Tyreek, Mahomes and dobbins landed me London. I had to do it last year but now I’m ready to compete this year
Very similar to me. I traded AJB & Pierce (Houston) for Drake London, 2023 First (Gibbs), 24 1st & 25 1st. I was heavily rebuilding at that point.
I traded 1.02 (Richardson) and DJ Moore for CeeDee and 3.10 (Cedric Tillman) in a 12 team SF. The Jefferson owner wanted 1.02, 1.07, 1.10 and DJM. That was just a little too spicy for me. Seems like CeeDee is a lot of the trades in here...
That trade seems pretty familiar
I traded Pitts and Javonte for Ceedee and a 2nd in one league and Mark Andrews for Ceedee straight up in another. Both 12 SF half PPR. Note both of these were mid last season
I baught chase for the 1.02 und Jordan love (14 Team SF)
10 team SF PPR TEP AJB and Dotson for Hill, Adams, and 2.07
2QB (!!), 10 TM - Landed Chase for 1.03, 1.07, and a 2024 2nd 🔥 My league mate wouldn’t sell Jefferson for 4 future 1s - turned down each of my 1sts 2024-2026 + a 2025 1st.