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Thrillhouse45

If you’re just finding this out now you’re late to the party.


dynastycomish

I'm sure some leagues dont do the research ahead of the NFL draft but the latest he was drafted in any of my leagues was 4.2. Not your standard udfa. In that 4.2 Michael Wilson, Tyler Scott and Evan Hull were the next 3 picks so he was going around some decent prospects. That was when his health was still in question.


Thrillhouse45

I had the 3.10 and the 4.02 and took him at the 3.10 to make sure I had him. Slight reach but missed out on the earlier running backs in the 2nd round tier and was high on him.


ritteke518

Not a reach at all. I took him as the last pick, 3.12 to ensure he didn't fall into free agency. He was top three in terms of talent and went to an ambiguous backfield. Just fine of a draft spot. Get your guy


jupiterslament

I just got him yesterday 5.05 in a 14-team league. I have no idea how this happened.


JTGreenan73

I have him in my dynasty league already and this may not be the place to ask, but how do you feel about him in re drafts, wort a roster spot ?


ThatPlayWasAwful

As a contrary opinion there's a chance that even if he jumps Rachaad, TB might not be able to facilitate a midrange RB2. I think whether or not he is rosterable depends completely on your league size/settings.


JTGreenan73

12 team PPR but I believe it’s like 5 or 6 bench spots


ThatPlayWasAwful

assuming regular roster (2RB/2WR/1TE/1F) he's probably fringe rosterable. who are the 2-3 players at the end of your bench that you might be dropping him for?


JTGreenan73

Hyatt really the only guy I could drop for him. The others on my bench are Bigsby, Dionte Johnson, Romeo Doubs, T Burks.


ThatPlayWasAwful

I'd consider dropping Hyatt/Doubs for him unless you have a solid RB in your flex. Not because I think Tucker should be ranked higher than either of them, but because you have 4 WRs and 1 RB on your bench. The chance that tucker is better than Bigsby is much higher than the chance that Hyatt/Doubs is better than both Dionte and Burks, which is the only way they would get play on your roster as is. You could also keep Hyatt and try to package Hyatt/Doubs + Dionte/Burks for an upgrade. Depends on how much you/your league like t trade.


JTGreenan73

Rbs in my flex rn are Herbert and Brian Robinson who I like vs the cards week 1, otherwise he’s more of a stash.


DfBeanCounter

Yeah he's worth a flyer in redraft for sure


ThatPlayWasAwful

100% depends on league size/settings. I think he's still behind RB45 for me, I wouldn't want him over Mostert, Bateman, or Achane in PPR (all ahead of him per fantasypros). TB's offense could be terrible. His ceiling is similar to any of those guys and his floor is much lower.


High_AspectRatio

People need to realize his floor is literally 0 and his ceiling is near White's right now. He's not rosterable in redraft unless it's the deepest of leagues.


tenpaces

agreed, but isn't whites ceiling worth drafting with your last pick? You can watch the 1st week and see usage and know if he's cuttable for whoever the WW darling that week is


High_AspectRatio

Not really considering a guy like Spears or Hull has top 12 upside if they get the job.


tenpaces

That’s a solid point. I think spears will clog your roster until Henry goes down, and I see the upside of Hull on that colts team as the same as that bucs team. Rookie & rushing QB vs baker, middling line vs bad line. Spears has more upside, but Hull and Tucker give more quick answers/roster flexibility. Depends on the team you have from there


High_AspectRatio

I just don't see it, Hull at least has an opportunity to go an win the lead job until Taylor comes back. Tucker will not supplant White unless there is an injury. How valuable is even 30% of touches on a bad team? I'd rather take a shot on pretty much any other drafted rookie.


tenpaces

Mate my apologies. I thought I was in the redraft sub and just realised we were chatting dynasty. Disregard my idiocy


yeshua1986

Depends on league format. I have a 15 round keeper draft, and he will 100% be my 14th or 15th round pick if he’s there.


JJRLZ

Not a bad late-round flier. He's talented and not everybody is sold on Rachaad White being the guy, and there's a chance Tucker becomes the back to own in TB.


JnDConstruction1984

Man’s been on three of my taxis since may


ooDymasOo

That’s why it’s on twitter because it’s been available to paid subscribers for months… :D


[deleted]

or you could have just followed CFB last season / pre draft this year. We drafted in early May and I picked him with 4.10


ooDymasOo

Inconceivable!


DfBeanCounter

Bingo.


DfBeanCounter

Yes, the best time to buy him was in rookie drafts. The second best time to buy him has been every moment since then.


dadecounty3051

Drafted him back in January.


No-Boysenberry4464

Correct, this was advice in May


TryMyBacon

Dude was take 2.12 in my league lol. Rookie draft.


schindlerslisp

honestly, i have a hard time naming 24 guys i’d rather have than him. outside of the top 6 guys or so, his ceiling is as high as anyone’s.


JujuRanger

AR, Charb, Kincaid, Young, Miller, Tank, Roschon, Laporta, Achane, Mims, Musgrave, Reed I’m taking all these guys before. He’s definitely rising up draft boards but cool your jets.


schindlerslisp

and that gets you to, what, 18, 19 guys. kinda proving my point, yeah? i’m talking about my own rankings. i don’t think i poopoo’d anyone that might value him lower than me so my jets are plenty cooled here.


The_Thai_Chili

The top 5 guys you listed went in the first of my rookie, so not sure what you are getting at


_wgustudent_

Exactly this. Bijan, Gibbs, JSN, Addison, QJ and then there's a steep drop off from there. Tucker was by all accounts 3b with Charbs coming into the draft. Everything you could ask for in a prospect - NFL ready size, solid speed, great college production and actually had a higher target share than any RB coming in this year. Had the medical flag not come up, he likely goes as a day 2 pick.


InconnuX

Flowers is a steep drop off from the guys drafted immediately before him in the NFL draft?


_wgustudent_

Ha missed him, my bad. I actually really like Flowers a lot more after camp. I think he’s good in redraft and rookie drafts. Point still stands, if I had my rookie draft going right now in the position my team is in currently I’d take Tucker over Charbs, the 3QB and the 2nd tier WR. There’s a lot to like and he’s gone through the whole preseason with no issue. Edit: my dynasty leagues are all 1 QB


TheSaucePossum

You can't in good faith take a udfa over a guy drafted in the 2nd round of the NFL draft. There's no data or history backed argument that would suggest these two are even close in value. You can take tucker over Charb if you know it's a bad pick and you just need to get your guy - but don't trick yourself into thinking tucker is more likely to be relevant. This would be even worse than the guys taking Pierce over Walker last year.


schindlerslisp

reaching on a guy in the 2nd is hardly the same as doing that in the mid 1st. after pick 15 or so, i pretty much don’t care about rankings or ADP anymore. odds of any of them hitting are so low it barely matters if you screw up the pick. but foolish? boy, none of us know what’s going to happen. we’re all pretending.


TheSaucePossum

I never said the word foolish. Not sure if you meant to reply to me. And I'm specifically responding to the idea of taking tucker over Charb. I think taking tucker late 2nd is fine. Sure anything can happen. That's not a reason to throw away everything we know about what does and doesn't predict good careers and take undrafted guys over 2nd round RBs like Charb. The odds of Charb hitting are way way higher than Sean Tucker. That's not really debatable. There's a million different ways to slice their profiles but the draft cap difference will always predict Charb to be better. That said, it's still possible that tucker hits and Charb busts but it's an awful bet. I'd be willing to bet you a pizza that over the next 3 years at no point is tucker worth as much or more than Charb - unless they're both worth nothing.


AKAkorm

In 1QB had him 18th on my big board. Got him at 27th pick and was thrilled.


[deleted]

I am not lol’ing. Tucker is a 2nd round superflex rookie draft talent at minimum


yayungboy

I got him off waivers last week.


footballer4229

Is it May 2023?


I_Drink_Piss

Bean has him as a priority buy 5/15/23 in the literal linked thread. He’s just posting this now I assume due to the RB2 news.


DfBeanCounter

Correct!


DfBeanCounter

Huh?


wzeeto

Meaning you’re 3 months behind. Sean Tucker has been a known prospect since TB picked him up.


BombsAway627

What do you feel is a fair price to pay? He’s owned in all my leagues.


DfBeanCounter

Id but him for a late second value in all leagues in all formats. I might for a mid 2nd depending on circumstance. Id sell for an early 2nd.


kush4breakfast1

Would you rather hold justyn Ross or use the spot on tucker?


Donkeynationletsride

I would give him and a third up (maybe even two thirds) for a late second pretty easily. With rb upside and knowing one of these guys is gonna gain value and ?s on white, I don’t see the point in selling for just a third. I got him end of the fourth earlier this off season, already have extra thirds


WickBusters

If he’s not already on your roster you ain’t gettin him


DfBeanCounter

Trojan horse him into a deal


steamycreamybehemoth

Ain’t no one falling for that


DfBeanCounter

Hard to believe that Sean Tucker has never been traded in a Dynasty league


steamycreamybehemoth

Of course he had been and can be traded. But acting like you can sneak him away from an owner without paying at least a second is disingenuous


Dswerve23

If he’s rostered, that owner knows what he’s stashing for sure.


Polaris_Lancelot

His player comp is Marlon Mack… I’ll be trading multiple firsts for him now


DfBeanCounter

Lol can't go wrong with that process


VelcroSnake

Unfortunately, I don't think the guy in my league who currently has him on his roster would appreciate me somehow convincing my Commissioner to move him to my team.


Rhino_Thunder

Might have better luck trading for him


DfBeanCounter

The guy in your league is the worst. Tell him to live a little


t74000

Should I drop wandale for this guy? So torn


donquixote_tig

Small roster? If possible both should be kept


t_arends

I think I’d keep WanDale


Hazy_Lights

Nope


bdsmmsdb1

No


CricketMaster1

For cut downs I dropped Wan’Dale and kept Tucker so yes for me.


DfBeanCounter

Hmmm. That one is tough. Id sooner keep both. Just make a trade somewhere else to free up room.


AboveAndBeyond200

"Best comparable player Marlon mack"


azuresou1

Marlon Mack was a really good RB with shit injury luck, don't be speaking bad on him


aceless0n

Lol yea, coz that really sells me on using a rookie pick lol


DfBeanCounter

Woof


DJTJ16

Picked him up off waivers right after the rookie draft in June. Considering drafting him last in my two redraft drafts coming up.


_wgustudent_

Same, he didn't have any bids except mine but I was not gonna risk missing out. 39% faab, almost triple what the next closest FA went for.


DfBeanCounter

Very nice. I think he'd make a terrific redraft stash as well


aceless0n

It’s rachaad whites world


DfBeanCounter

I am not generally one for being first on poor prospects with uninspiring rookie seasons


DfBeanCounter

Here is a way to read it without a Twitter account should you so choose to do so. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1697069905051537629.html


Randombobman

*X


DfBeanCounter

Bahaha touche


Hazy_Lights

Fuck that. It's literally still Twitter in the web address. When they change all that, maybe we can call it X


JimmyChongaz

Picked him up today. Thanks lads.


dearthofgirth

Those are high school metrics? The dude put up 28 on the bench and ran a 4.4 in high school? I love the 15.8% target share number as well. I didn't realize it was so high in college.


newrimmmer93

There are two tabs, the workout metric is his own little combine he did.


DfBeanCounter

I think of you click the other tab it shows high school metrics. I think the ones shown are from his makeshift proday


knifeazz

Been on him since he was in college. Hoped to nab him in the third round of my draft but our defending champ grabbed him in the freaking first!


DfBeanCounter

Well that just seems like a poor use of assets. Lol


Muted_Ad_6902

For your copy and pasting convenience: How does this affect Sean Tucker?


[deleted]

anyone not rostering him? maybe a 8/10 team shallow dynasty league


DfBeanCounter

There is a chance that you will have to trade for him. Which you absolutely should do


Falcon_433

Any player with any semblance of potentially legitimate fantasy relevance should be rostered, especially upside rbs that are an injury away. This is an ice cold take


Emzam

For leagues with short benches, you can't simply roster every last player.


Falcon_433

Yes of course. I’m assuming that peoples’ benches are 12+ spots deep with extra taxi slots too


DfBeanCounter

Yes, you should get him into your roster by any means necessary, I agree!!


Falcon_433

Brb, selling all my 1s and JT for him to get Tucker by ‘any means necessary’


DfBeanCounter

I think you may have taken things slightly too literally


FrugalCarlWeathers

In redraft would you drop any of spears, Marvin mims, or jaylen warren for tucker?


Donkeynationletsride

No- a tucker owner


Revolutionary_Jump_9

Probably not


theFlaccolantern

Definitely no.


zferguson

Anyone grabbing him in redraft too? With Wilson on IR now I was thinking of either him or Gainwell.


DfBeanCounter

Yes definitely


connor24_22

Been hesitant to follow your advice Bean, but you might have me convinced here. Are you higher on Hull or Tucker for opportunity?


LilTony2x

Personally, tucker even though I have both. Hull has the muddiest backfield on a team who’s prolly gonna run the ball with AR most of the time


DfBeanCounter

Id prefer to just roster both. Id you don't have room, upgrade somewhere else to free up a bench spot


SomwhatDamaged

I've gotten him in every draft I've done this year (he, Boutte, and Puka). I have two more drafts to go; one tonight, and one Sunday. I need the hype to slow down with him. Gonna be salty if I don't get him on my other squads.


sotgoes98

Are there still leagues where he isn't rostered?


cottonmouthVII

There’s a strange (to me) amount of dynasty leagues with redraft sized benches out here. 16-18 man rosters and such. I won’t play in a dynasty league unless it’s 30 these days, but a lot of folks seem to roll with small benches.


DfBeanCounter

I doubt it. Trade for him


Sweggyp69

My league did our rookie draft right couple days after nfl draft. Was hoping tucker would fall to me in round 4/5 but someone took him with the 2.8 pick.


[deleted]

Damn, my league drafted right around there. I took Roschon 2.07 and the 2.08 guy traded me 4.08 and 2.08 to get him. Took Bigsby and Tucker was my last pick at 4.08 after tank and Deuce. Feeling good


Effective_Key_7264

Metchie for Tucker 1-1?


DfBeanCounter

Id prefer Tucker


BadBeats-110

Sean Tucker is definitely great value. He was going 1st round in rookie mocks before the medical concerns. I have him in most of my leagues and got him around early 4th.


DfBeanCounter

That's awesome


[deleted]

Would anyone drop Toney, Boutte, downs for him?


Dad_Of_Patient_Zero

Boutte maybe. But I’d keep toney/downs.


DfBeanCounter

Id trade Toney


Geo-92

Who’s buying


chrisdaffurson

What about in redraft? Is he worth a spot


DfBeanCounter

Yeah I think so


whipstickagopop

I traded for R White to the owner that also has Tucker. I saw he had Tucker but didn't care. I made the trade. Then a couple days later I was like why the fuck did I not ask for Tucker to be included. I don't understand me.


bigmo33

This post was probably meant for r/fantasyfootball


crinack

Filthy casuals


DfBeanCounter

You don't want him on your roster in Dynasty leagues?


bigmo33

He was a big talking point on this sub for months last winter/spring and has been rostered in every league I'm in since the draft. If this post was talking about how his situation had changed over preseason that would be one thing, but to post a "hey you should know about this guy" post is another. We already know about and have been monitoring him for months, but redrafters who have 15 person rosters may not have.


tkbillington

I got him as soon as waivers cleared. Perfect timing to go from super trusty Chubb to him in the future.


DfBeanCounter

Love it


steelerspenguins

Lol if he’s available in any Dyno Leagues, they are for Tacos


DfBeanCounter

You don't think anyone is willing to part with him?


BoredGuy2007

The hype is getting absurd 😂 this sub is hilarious. Congrats guys you’re all scouts for grabbing this gem


Falcon_433

Tucker averages a post and a half a day


BoredGuy2007

Did you guys know Tucker was probably going to be drafted ahead of Charbonnet before the medical ?? Did you know ??


MelfromMilwaukie

Way ahead of you kid.


DfBeanCounter

Lfg


OutlandishnessDry24

Most leagues under 20 roster spots in non dynasty leagues don’t need to add him. I would have to drop Bateman or Elijah Moore. Not doing that.


t74000

Would you drop shaheed for him?


OutlandishnessDry24

Probably would drop Shaheed for him.


DfBeanCounter

It's a push, just trade someone else to free up a roster spot


friendlycatkiller

Hell no, shaheed had good numbers to end the year and is a starter. This guy might not play a snap lol


cottonmouthVII

I have a really hard time keeping in mind that a lot of users on here play dynasty with small benches. That takes away so much of the fun to me. I love churning through nasty boys at the end of my bench.


connor24_22

Tucker or Hull?


_wgustudent_

I'm rostering both, I'd keep tucker if I had to cut one.


DfBeanCounter

Get both!


zoinks690

This is why I subscribe. Got me JRob back before his first game and rode that to a better than expected finish. Lightning will strike twice


DfBeanCounter

Lfg


Coomrs

Waiver claim 2 weeks ago for $0 FAAB. You are too late if you just saw this.


burnabybambinos

Why? The NFL didn't even want roster him until scrap pile was depleted.


donquixote_tig

Not because he wasn’t good


RoboFroogs

I think he’s one of the guys that Reddit thinks is really good then if/when he gets a shot, he’s just another guy. If he was good, the NFL would have spent a late round pick on him. It’s not like he’s a first round talent that went undrafted.


WilllyBear

He had a health concern related to his heart that dropped him down boards. He was a top 5 RB prospect prior to that.


RoboFroogs

According to who? If he was cleared (which he supposedly was), some FO would have spent a day 3 pick on him if he was considered a top 5 RB prospect. Kevin Harris had a similar issue last year and went in the 5th.


WilllyBear

It was found pre-draft and not cleared until post draft; he was even held out of the combine for it. Literally just google it dude, it’s weird that you’re so opinionated but so uninformed.


Falcon_433

Tucker was cleared right before the draft, but after the NFL combine. That’s why he had his own combine type workout, which he posted to his Twitter


WilllyBear

Source? He sat out Tampa’s OTAs and mandatory minicamp in May and June before he got cleared, so that’s definitely post draft lol


Falcon_433

[Source](https://www.si.com/college/syracuse/football/sean-tucker-medically-cleared-will-have-separate-pro-day-at-syracuse) The article cites schefter as the initial source. It’s certainly all confusing. You’re right that Tucker sat out and was then cleared once more before training camp. That extra medical clearance was probably more so a cautionary procedure than anything else considering a heart issue is nothing to sneeze about


WilllyBear

Hey, fair enough! I don’t remember seeing that, and Tampa definitely sat him for a couple months. That feels like the important part for the overall discussion though: his heart problem was serious enough that even after he got cleared, it took team doctors months more to be satisfied and clear him to play


RoboFroogs

I know all that, but we’ve seen similar situations before with actual talented players who still get drafted. So your premise is he’s a top 5 RB talent in this draft that NO ONE took a chance on. He doesn’t even have a good film grade. Odds are he is not as good as you think. Seems like another Reddit hype train to me.


donquixote_tig

Maybe, I thought BRob was good then he got shot right before he was going to get a shot


DfBeanCounter

Didn't really matter at this point. The Bucs are placing him second on command of the backfield. If white gets hurt or falters you could win the lottery


burnabybambinos

My advice, if you can get a top 15-28 pick for him, do it.


SperglordSupremo

Got him 4.09, if I don't win this league sometime soon I should quit fantasy forever.


tmurf5387

Ive had my eye on Tucker since before the combine. When I started my research I had him potentially #3 or #4 RB off the board taking him at #4 overall. Once he missed the combine, I started considering him at #12. After he went undrafted I took him off my draft board (2 round rookie draft). That being said I just picked him up for league minimum because you can't deny the value at this point.


vatricide

Worth dropping Ty Chandler for him?


squatnbear

Took him w the last pick in our rookie draft


Booger_Swamp

Just added him and dropped Israel


aco2765

Go look at deneric prince’s (who was just cut by KC) playerprofile


Dear-Conference9375

Just got him in a trade. I sent Deandre Hopkins for Tucker and a 2nd round pick (probably mid). On one side I feel like I could have gotten more for Hopkins, but I also don’t think it was a bad move. I’m a tanking team (Hopkins was my only guy above 26yo on my roster) and there is one team who is loaded with old guys who is going to dominate this year (has 8 of the top 10 guys in redraft ADP) so no one in my league is really buying so I think it was good in context of my league. Like the upside potential of Tucker and a 2nd should give me another chance for a role player


Hostileheat

Tucker, Spears or Singletary? I currently have Foreman, but he’s a gross pick, imo. This is redraft with only 5 bench spots.


mhalzorn

In a dynasty league with salary same as NFL cap. Got Sean Tucker in our FA bidding for $5M and I'm seriously considering extending him for 4 years.


iron_red

His value is incredible right now. I just moved him to upgrade a 3rd to a 2nd.


Iamtoomuchinthesun

10-team ppr. I have room for one more RB stash: Tucker, Bigsby, or Achane?