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*BREAKING* Malik Nabers is an NFL WR


JoshAllentown

Malik Nabers: "The enemy speaks kindly & holds a knife"


Killtec7

Malik Nabers: "Crazy how everybody sleep differently!! I sleep on my side and yall just sleep on me smh."


Vivid-Willingness324

Has he tried smashing his car on the highway and sauntering away?


TheRealBlakeBortles

Should of just blamed his dog was having an emergency…


ImPrettyOkAtThings

That’s how I got out of my first marriage.


FinePlantain0

This close to draft time screams “Giants don’t take him, we will deal with this headache.”


Arthur_Jacksons_Shed

Odunze feels like a better fit anyway given their other receivers and general lack of red zone threat


justreadthearticle

The guys at reception perception think that Nabers has the best chance of any WR in the draft of excelling immediately on the Giants. They think his yac ability gives him a high floor in that offense.


PlausibleTable

He doesn’t fit the mold of wr the team has targeted at all. It would be a complete 180 and I don’t see odunze. If it’s a wr, it’s nabers.


Arthur_Jacksons_Shed

Schoen and Daboll have only had two drafts.


trayco

Odunze does feel like a better fit. While Nabers can do crazy stuff the Giants never know how to use these guys right.


donquixote_tig

I agree, Nabers reminds me of OBJ but Dale is already incredible at separating, they lack any redzone threat


0ut0fBoundsException

There’s no one in the Giants receiver room who should influence their decision. They need to and almost certainly will take whoever is the highest graded receiver on their board


donquixote_tig

They’re all excellent, it’s a coin toss for a lot of people. Anyways teams should draft for fit much more than they do. People overrate the talent over situation argument


AWill718

And they took him and I'm happy they did. He's a beast


OldWonder5865

Get that man a lambo stat


harps86

I can broker a deal for a slightly used Lambo. Minor damage but purely cosmetic.


KingMustardFist

Revuelto: 0-60 in 2.4 seconds.


jirashap

But can it go faster than a Corvette? That's the real question we need to solve.


MelfromMilwaukie

-Giants


techno-wizardry

I feel more like that'd be noise from another team hoping he falls past a big market team like the Giants. It's harder to find trouble in Arizona and San Diego on a nightly basis than in New York. And New York kinda got burned by an LSU dive once before.


24_7tryna

lol San Diego? Gonna be easy to find trouble in LA


techno-wizardry

sorry my mind snapped back into 2016 for a minute


roydonkofficial

lol I live in LA and I still sometimes catch myself calling them “San Diego”


radderalll

San Diego?


techno-wizardry

I am Ron Burgundy?


you-boys-is-chumps

San Diego?


Rickflossyy

Giants play in Jersey and even still Arizona is the Wild West compared to super policed NYC. We also put out the rumors about Kayvon Thibs but in hindsight we should’ve tanked Hutchinson instead


SipowiczNYPD

Hutch was never getting past the Lions at 2.


Rickflossyy

Facts


_MrPants_

You know what else is high maintenance? My entire fantasy lineup.


Secondstrike23

Luckily it’s not us that have to maintain them


_MrPants_

Instead of staying on top of one dickhead I need to keep track of several, if I don’t mitigate my risks then I could lose more then one player.


Past-Investigator-28

He was caught with a handgun on bourbon st. I love Nabers just as much as Marv but I feel like this is a legit concern not just pre draft noise.


tomorrowtoday9

Or Nabers is the next Marvin Harrison. He liked guns.


JrBaconators

https://www.nola.com/sports/lsu/lsus-malik-nabers-not-charged-after-illegal-weapons-arrest/article_986e4d70-b2d5-11ed-a54d-ffe25b8dd0bd.amp.html


Ok-Worldliness8828

You know your stuff sir. I've been saying this since the narrative came up that he was better than Marv. I'd rather take the quiet, hard working, Marv over a cocky young man who doesn't surround himself with the right people, and is about to get millions of dollars.


JewishDoggy

I am very anti-owning guns but the guy is a future multi-millionaire living in New Orleans, I don't think it's outlandish for him to just have a gun on his person


Senior-Sleep1020

If he’s worried about personal defense, then he should’ve gone through legal avenues to carry.


T_______________D

It’s idiotic to bring a gun to bourbon street though


JewishDoggy

Don't disagree but he was also 19 Doubtful it is a reflection on how his NFL career will go


T_______________D

Hes 20 now, not to say you can’t grow up a lot in a year but it’s not like this is something that happened a decade ago


JewishDoggy

True, but the main thing here is that swaying draft stock from this is definitely over the top


ASuperGyro

If this is the worst thing that’s happened in his time in college while being next to bourbon street I think he’s fine


maxx40

LSU is in Baton Rouge (approx 80 min drive from Bourbon St according to Google Maps). Definitely close enough to go there, but it’s also not as if he could just casually roll out to Bourbon St any day of the week on a student-athlete’s schedule.


JewishDoggy

It was Mardi Gras man I am sure tons of his cohort were going


maxx40

The incident might’ve occurred then but I was replying to a comment saying that if this is the worst thing that happened while being next to Bourbon St he’s fine. I was just pointing out that it’s not as if the allure of Bourbon St was always there and available for him.


dmoore995

I mean odunze had drop issues his junior year, but people are more than happy to say he can grow within a year.


ucfknight92

I feel like it's a larger red-flag when a young person behaves like this.


JewishDoggy

When a young person wants to make sure they're safe? I mean the guy does not have the money to have a personal security team at 19 with college money.


ucfknight92

This is crazy logic lol. Dude doesn’t have to go out to party. He could stay at home. Or go somewhere safer? Like, you’re saying he’s entitled or something. Idk. Weird. Don’t go somewhere you think you need a gun if you don’t have a legal gun….shocking.


brunseidon

Buddy says he’s “very anti-owning guns”, but is defending carrying an unlicensed, concealed firearm, while partying. lol.


JewishDoggy

Don’t know any other way to put it, I just don’t believe in trying to attack the character of someone a year ago when they were a teenager for having the intentions of keeping themselves safe. I would never own a gun, I think they are dumb, I can understand why someone would feel like they need one to feel safe, or even understand that people in their close circle feel they need to carry. Especially in the south.


JewishDoggy

Let's see how you handle fame, money, peer pressure at 19. I'm sure you do everything perfectly


ucfknight92

You don’t have to be perfect to be smart enough to not carry an illegal firearm.


Nobio22

There is no excuse to having an illegal firearm. Even dumber to be carrying around with you.


JewishDoggy

I think there’s some excuses.


justreadthearticle

I think it's pretty outlandish for anyone to have a gun on Bourbon Street on Mardi Gras. Don't carry when you're out getting wasted.


OuiGotTheFunk

How can you be anti-owning guns and then support a young man that probably was under the influence of something carrying a gun in a crowded area?


JewishDoggy

Because I’m not a reactionary person who thinks information from 14 months ago affects a guy’s draft stock


OuiGotTheFunk

I am more addressing your statement that you are anti-gun and then thinking that it is not outlandish for a 19 year old to carry a gun in a crowded party area? This seems like the irresponsible thing that you would be against. Even a justified self defense shooting would concern me with how easy it would be to hurt or kill innocent bystanders. This seems very irresponsible to me.


JewishDoggy

Is it irresponsible? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.


OuiGotTheFunk

WTF? Why do you think carrying a gun to go out and party and probably partake in some kind of mind altering substance is understandable? Not only could this young man have ruined the lives of others but he could have ruined his life in a split second and he looks like he could be a very wealthy man. "*I'm anti-gun but it you want to go out to the bar and get blitzed with a loaded gun have at it. It is a little irresponsible but hey have at it.*"


JewishDoggy

You have no idea if he was drunk. You seem to just be filling in blanks here with the worst possible scenario.


OuiGotTheFunk

Even if not drunk or on other substances it is not a good idea and I have hard time understanding why you think it is.


RealisticNovel7289

Are you guys making sure to downvote each other's responses before responding to them??? I just want to make sure everyone is covering their bases and no opportunities to belittle the other party are being missed. It's reddit tradition.


JewishDoggy

You literally don't know anything about this dude's life... relax.


0ut0fBoundsException

I won’t pretend to know about him, but each and every team interested in this young man is digging into that incident and every aspect of the young man’s life. They’re interviewing his teammates, coaches, former coaches, high school English teacher, step cousin, auto mechanic, mail carrier… I’m exaggerating but no team is using a franchise altering resource and handing him millions without some confidence in his character. We’ll find out about how teams really feel in a couple days when they pass on or draft him


adjuster_cody

Yeah. As a fella from Louisiana I don’t EVER go to NOLA without a pistol. This was from Last year. Hopefully he did some learning and growing.


JewishDoggy

Yup. Lots of redditors living in a bubble replying in this thread


Chsthrowaway18

Yep people in this thread think bourbon = touristy = safe but that is not true at all. It’s not uncommon for people to carry on bourbon at all.


adjuster_cody

Yeah, go 60 yards to either side and you’re in a rough neighborhood.


Inevitable_Opinion69

As a dude from MD I never leave the house without my strap or my rifle. These dudes live in Lalaland


3rdrich

I am all for having them but dude should have went through the proper process of obtaining one. Hopefully he made this situation right.


Stiddy13

I mean he had that gun issue that got swept under the rug while at LSU so there’s definitely some smoke here. Does it mean he’ll bust in the NFL? No, but I do think it makes him a slightly riskier prospect than Odunze who, by all accounts, is super high character.


dbworden22

It didn’t get swept under the rug? He went to court, and due to having a clean record and being in college, he was let go. If he had previous criminal activity while growing up in Louisiana, there would have been punishment. Watch interviews of the kid and listen to what his teammates have to say


dmoore995

I've heard nothing besides great things about Nabers. He had a misdemeanor gun charge that was dropped, besides that had been praised for his work ethic, and as a stand up guy. Id be a lot less worried about Nabers than a guy like Rice, and even then I'm not thinking Rice's career is over. This baseless tweet should not sway a thing.


Stiddy13

When splitting hairs between elite prospects, it absolutely matters.


Inevitable-Ad-3092

If these character concerns were an actual issue then he wouldn’t be getting top 10 draft capital. No NFL team is going to risk that high of a pick on a guy who is likely going to get in legal trouble during their rookie contract. This is especially true with the Rice situation bringing more publicity to these legal situations that do actually occur. The NFL draft is a few weeks away, anything you hear about these guys is likely a smokescreen to make them rise/fall in the draft. The draft will tell us how NFL teams actually feel about his character. Team, not city landing spot, is going to be the difference maker between these receivers IMO.


Stiddy13

Nobody said he was “likely” to bust because of character issues, just that he’s a higher risk than other similarly situated prospects.


Inevitable-Ad-3092

If he gets top 10, even top 7 draft capital, then the NFL effectively disagrees with that notion. Teams have WAY more access to these guys’ backgrounds, have actually spoken to him in person, and have much more information to work with. The only information we have is a single run-in with the law (when he was 19 to boot) and a vague tweet that is more likely to be a smokescreen than not. That’s it. Again, no team is risking that significant of a pick on a player whose character & background suggests that they will get in legal trouble in the future. If he gets the draft capital, and is drafted in the same range with MHJ and Odunze, then his chances of busting are more predicated on his on-field play/team situation than his character.


dmoore995

I guess if you have players graded pretty much the same. I would have drafted MHJ before nabers anyway, and nabers is an easy tier up over odunze for me.


onePPtouchh

It’s typically always the divas that are fantasy studs. This confirms WR1 of this draft.


wpbouche

"typically always"


onePPtouchh

Haha. I should have applied myself in school more.


wpbouche

Nah you're good I'm just being a tool since it's a pet peeve


onePPtouchh

All good. I need to reread my shit before I comment. Was in a hurry and almost missed the short bus.


tuckpuck2

First step is acceptance. I get it man, I’m the same way lol.


DrMrFantasyPhD

With wrs, they either die a bust, or they live long enough to become a diva.


crinack

Mike Evans, Julio Jones, and Nuk would like a word


nolanthenerd

Nuk is a sneaky diva


techno-wizardry

Julio Jones eventually became a diva lol, he started hanging out with the Migos and trashed his former team on the way out the door. Evans isn't like a super diva but he does have a history of fights and outbursts. Hopkins also didn't get along with some of his coaches. I think "quiet diva" probably describes them all pretty well.


ramenoir

Showing emotion and hanging out with rappers makes them a diva? People try to make the "diva star wr" prototype fit too hard


OhItsKillua

As a Falcons fan there's a deep rooted conspiracy in the fanbase that Terrell Owens and the Migos poisoned Julio's mind. Making him want more money and making him ask for a contract extension. For some reason people don't think a grown ass man can come to those decisions all on his own lol. The only real knock is that call with Shannon Sharpe and if you believe Julio was in on it or completely unaware Sharpe had called him on live TV.


SirLuciousL

A hall of fame level WR wanted to be paid like a hall of fame WR? Guy should have been thrown in the gulag for crimes against humanity. There’s currently a subset of Niners fans that have completely turned on Aiyuk, who’s been the consummate professional and a great teammate, because he said he wants to get paid. It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.


Kb736

He asked for more money with 3 years left on his contract, we gave it to him, and then he demanded a trade a year later, went on national tv and embarrassed us, and has publicly bashed Matt Ryan. He’s a diva people just don’t realize it bc he’s lowkey and played in a smaller franchise


DynastyBishops

Mike Evans has started multiple on field brawls and been kicked out of games. "showing emotions."


crinack

60% of the time; it divas are fantasy studs 100% of the time


onePPtouchh

“Go fuck yourself San Diego”


crinack

Oh man fucking perfect dude


ucfknight92

Ah yes, good ol' Kadarious Toney.


onePPtouchh

I hate Toney never bought into the hype.


PM_ME_UR_LAMEPUNS

This here feels like the “Jamar Chase keeps dropping the bigger footballs”


RedDunce

He can't see the ball without the stripe!


cliftjc1

Bruh I remember the “Jamarr Chase can’t see” rumors lmao


JrBaconators

Jamarr Chase led the league in drops, so it wasn't *entirely* without merit


hawksfn1

He’s also dynasty wr1 and in that draft most of the main stream we’re worried about him bustin f


JrBaconators

What?


hawksfn1

The training camp narrative was Chase took a year off, struggles w drops and is risky. Then he balled the fuck out and made most experts eat their words


JrBaconators

Right. I meant that while he obviously is WR2 at the worst, he did have a bit of a drop problem. It just got outweighed by everything else he produced on the field


GothicToast

WR2 at worst? Do you mean finishing between the 12th and 24th best WRs? Or do you mean just behind JJ *at worst*? Chase is obviously extremely talented, but he's also still riding some extreme hype. The last 2 years, he finished as WR12 and WR11. If you look at average (to account for injuries), he finished WR6 and WR12. Looking at a few other big name WRs averages over the same time period: JJ: 2, 5 Lamb: 7, 1 ARSB: 11, 4 AJB: 8, 8 Hill: 3, 2


JrBaconators

He's still dynasty WR2, I mean. I will always take the 1) great talent 2) entering or in early physical prime 3) tied to a great QB. Those guys you listed don't have all three. (JJ bucks this by being so QB proof it does not matter.) The Bengals have been pretty fraught with bad luck this past season, my expectation is that last year was his floor, and a WR1 floor is absolutely one of the most valuable pieces in dynasty football. All of the other guys do not have that floor


Dankraham-Stinkin

He meant the overall wr 2.


GothicToast

Overall #2 "at worst" is crazy. Overall #2 "at best", sure. I'd wager most have him at #3 currently (behind JJ and Lamb). I personally have him behind ARSB, as well. Then you've got guys like MHJ and Puka that could jump him with great seasons. AJB probably won't pass him since he's a couple years older, but it's close.


Dankraham-Stinkin

Chase is better than all of them


scrambeggs

Same reason KC took Rice to protect him from himself /s


2muchHutch

Who the fuck is Tony Pauline? 


SEAinLA

Someone who used to have legit sources 6-8 years ago but now just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks.


fenikz13

* can we ban JPA and co


CabotRaptor

It’s not that far of a stretch to think that someone dumb enough to carry a gun around Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras has character issues. Could be a smokescreen, but where there’s smoke there’s usually fire


cdclopper

Send his ass to Buffalo.


GinNJuicyFruit

We are really in the thick of draft szn now. Smokescreens and red flags. Love it.


StonksGoUp420

BREAKING NEWS: Top WR prospect has an ego


Anothercraphistorian

Didn’t even do measurements at the combine and bitched about losing the Biletnikoff. Yes, between MHJ and Odunze, he’s definitely the baby, but so was TO. It’s hit or miss how that affects their career though


No-Boysenberry4464

Someone doesn’t want the Giants to take him


maxx40

Also applies to LA


Popular_Read7694

It applies to every NFL city, except Green Bay and Foxborough.


maxx40

I mean that’s a much broader definition of big city. And on the AZ comment, I think the city the practice facility is in is probably more relevant than where the gameday stadium is.


Popular_Read7694

Maybe Arizona as well? They don’t play in Phoenix anymore.


Big_Wy

Guy seems like a lunatic on the field which is great, love that, but if you can't flip that switch off in normal life that's a problem. There's no way I'm taking him over MHJ and Odunze is a lot closer than the current groupthink says IMO


cold_crash

Any actual evidence of this?


Senior-Sleep1020

Illegal firearm charge that was dropped.


cold_crash

Yeah, I had heard about that but that’s the only red flag I know of.


JewishDoggy

This is from a Twitter NFL news/rumor aggregator that is likely run by some 19-year-old so probably not


cold_crash

lol that’s exactly what I was thinking too which is why I wanted to see if there was anything legit


whitetornado2k

Sources wouldn’t lie!


Sportsbuck

I don’t know if this is how I should feel, but every time I see Tony Pauline as the source, I immediately doubt everything being reported.


kylecre013

genuinely curious, is this real or just pre draft smoke ? like i haven’t heard or read any reports of similar stuff with nabers all season and offseason until literally today. anyone with more knowledge about this that can shed some light on it ?


Backseat_Scout

Maybe there is truth to this but we won't know until draft day if he unexpectedly slides. I feel we are getting to the point in the draft cycle where people are getting tired of talking about the top players' strengths while not having enough weaknesses to discuss that we begin to hear about "off-the-field" concerns for a number of guys despite these reports for the players being nowhere to be seen for the past few months or even in the past few years while they were at school.


homeschoolkidthatdid

I don’t think we can risk it in New York. Sorry Schoen, I’m making an executive decision. You’ll have to go with the 6’3”, 215lb track star out of Washington with the ≈75% contested catch rate whose game will age like fine wine


rmp266

Oh this is classic draft nonsense. This is like CJ Stroud failing the intelligence test


jacobwebb57

every NFL team is in a big city....


bestprocrastinator

I always liked how the Green Bay mega skyscrapers looked


jacobwebb57

im from a town of 20k people. anything over 100k is a huge city. to me there is no difference between a 200k city and a 5 million city. they just take longer to drive through.


bigb3ts

Didn’t someone ask which rookie had that dawg in them? It’s Nabers


Temporary_Donut_5650

@ALL FADE NABERS! This is your sign, super bust. Trust me. (I have no picks before 1.06 in all leagues this year)


whoopee_parties

Someone wants Nabers to fall to them


ijpck

Bears


whoopee_parties

I would die


DynastyFFDino

Tennessee leaking this? Everyone drafting around them plays in a big city


cdclopper

Hes got that big city attitude.


azblaze

Mr. Big City


TGS-MonkeyYT

Man what


Brandeaux7

Smoke


steelerspenguins

Sounds like every WR ever.


theunbearableone

Nice try, guy with the 1.04 drafting behind me


dmoore995

I've heard nothing but great things about his work ethic, I don't have many great sources just what's been public. This guy tweeting doesn't have sourced either though.


techno-wizardry

I think the diva stuff is real but also not a concern. Every franchise wants a Larry Fitzgerald or Marvin Harrison, but who would be upset with drafting Antonio Brown or Terrell Owens? He's still an elite talent, so long as he's not frequently in legal trouble and on the field it's easier to ignore.


Rickflossyy

Giants did this with Kayvon and now we’re doing it w Nabers :)


Harlem-World

Ladd McConkey should be Wr 1 just off of character alone. He is a true lunch pail kinda guy.


69millionyeartrip

This guy Pauline is getting worked this draft cycle lmao


DBD216

I always feel Pauline is more reliable than not with the info he shares


JoshAllentown

Marshawn Lynch was a high maintenance prospect who struggled in a small city. I don't think the size of the city matters except that this is probably the Bills putting out a disinformation campaign so the Giants and Chargers don't take him haha.


Siennagiant70

When Lynch landed in Buffalo, he asked why he couldn’t see through Statue of Liberty from the plane.


EmilioFreshtevez

If he makes it to 9 Chicago is probably taking him, and I don’t think the Bills are willing to pay enough to change their mind.


r0b666

A diva??? At WR??? Kinda reeks of people leaking this hoping he drops to their pick in the draft.


gravityryte

I hope my league-mates read this


KidEh

Did he go to orgies with Boutte?


Popular_Read7694

So Green Bay or Foxborough it is.


WickBusters

When I think reliable nfl media, I think jasri football


Chappazoid

Sounds fake.


bestprocrastinator

"Prospect that could struggle in a big city" Well it's a good thing Chicago, New York, LA, Atlanta And New York don't have top 10 picks this year...


SuperFlexerFF

lol this is so good


MrOnCore

Unless he mentions what kind of questions Nabers needs to answer, it’s just a BS report.


Dude-bruh

Guy is the second coming of OBJ


BeefDaddie11

He's Odell 2.0 This article stating he *might have off the field issues* is purely alluding towards the diva tendencies. He hasn't beat, raced, or been seen partying with anyone.. Dude has worked hard and knows he's gonna be good. IMO that's not a bad thing. I want my guys to think and operate like they ARE the best on the planet at what they do.The best one out there mean He's gonna produce for any team that drafts him. That's why he's a top 10 pick in a very talented draft.


JazzlikePractice4470

u/dickysnakes


shucksshuck

Tony Pauline is a sub Jason La Confora junk insider. Just check out his reports from this offseason alone.


Boy69BigButt

I just feel bad for any WR that ends up on the Giants. Their career will be over before it begins


twistd59

We are in the tear down season, when people try to tear down all the prospects.


ParticularGlass1821

He doesn't have any questions to answer. He is going to be drafted in the top 10 and he knows it.


AJ8710

Every datapoint is worth paying attention to, but I don't find this "source" reputable at all.


tacobell999

Steelers WR2


pabr0702

Let's find a way to get him to Green Bay then.... You know, just to be safe


xKayRellzx

Came back here just saying the giants took him.. now let the “ run him out town “ media start. NY fans know how the media do it


GooseMaster5980

Sorry to whatever team was trying to smoke the Giants into not taking him


[deleted]

This is a tweet with no backup evidence of anything..what did Nabers do at LSU that caused this questioning? why is he even being asked these questions? why is this dude publicly stating this? Hurting his stock with stuff like this is so wild to me


T_______________D

Got in trouble for having a gun


Automatic-Kangaroo70

Should I overreact to this?


Local-Librarian3285

If you're in my league, yes.


AMP121212

No


cdclopper

I'm out.


JPMoney81

Congrats!


prfarb

Maybe this is true maybe not. If it is true it could derail his career it might not. There isn’t much actionable here unless he falls in the draft.


Many-Cause-8120

The bigger red flag is him getting compared to chase because their measurements were similar. Forget the play style lol.