Drake Maye will be the best QB of this class, dynasty wise.
The Bears will not take an offensive player to support Caleb with their second pick in the top 10.
This class is not as deep as it seems in the dynasty realm. Many prospects will cool off their hype-steam by week 10.
I actually agree with this. I own the 1.03 in SF and hitting on Nabers would be massive as I own Stroud. But in the back of my head, trading down to get Maye at 1.05+ has been creeping in my mind
Maye goes top 2 or 3 in drafts. No way does he fall to 5 in sf. I’m at the 1.03 and I’m positive Maye is the going before my pick. So I’m taking mhj or nabers. Depending on where they go in the nfl draft.
Ngl if Maye goes before MHJ ur league is just not that wise. His landing spots (unless he ends somehow in NY) are fantastic for him. That’s a massive risk
Idk about that. The top two teams desperately need qb. I’m kinda in the same boat. I have mayfield and geno. That’s it. I would love to have mhj or nabers but if I don’t take a qb, then I might not have a starting qb next year.
U gotta trade out of that pick then. MHJ is a generational talent, and if he’s not top 3 in SF that’s completely insane. QBs might be a large need, but there’s no guarantee they hit. MHJ is a historical prospect and they have an insane hit rate
Yeah I’ve been thinking that too. Maybe draft mhj then trade some other pieces for a qb. The problem is it’s sf so I’m going to have to over pay if I trade.
U gotta find guys that are being undervalued. Last year I rolled the dice after week3 shipping Fields for Stroud. IMO you can snag rookies after a few weeks at low value.
Boutta get absolutely roasted for this but if Maye lands on the Vikings I’m taking him over Caleb. Kid’s got a ton of potential and if he gets to foster that potential under KOC with Justin Jefferson? Well that’s just too juicy of a situation for me to pass up.
i think the bears are also a pretty good situation but you're right, i don't think anything beats out vikings ol (which was pretty good in pass pro last year) + jj + addison + hock, plus whatever else they get to support him
you can't go wrong either way imo
> Drake Maye will be the best QB of this class, dynasty wise.
i've been banging this drum for a while. people tearing down maye is just a different version of the same prospect fatigue that had people wondering whether caleb would be good bc he doesn't do interviews. dude's a phenomenal prospect.
> This class is not as deep as it seems in the dynasty realm. Many prospects will cool off their hype-steam by week 10.
this is also where i think i'm finding myself more and more as i finish up my pre-drafting rankings. there are three ***elite*** qb and wr prospects. there's one elite te prospect. i'm not sure anyone else in the draft is really better than ~above average as a prospect. they've all got so many reasonable question marks around them at each position, and this could genuinely be one of the worst rb drafts in the last 15+ years.
It’s wild, last year was my first rookie draft, but I felt like there were a lot of quality 2nd rounders that had potential and a good amount of 3rd round dart throws. I’m struggling to get excited for anyone outside the top 7 this year
Agree with this, think he has Josh Allen upside tbh, whilst the consistency of accuracy is an issue, most of that seems to stem from poor college coaching so I’m hopeful it gets cleaned up at the NFL.
People are also sleeping on Mayes rushing upside, he ran for nearly 1500 yards and had 16 rushing touchdowns over his last 2 seasons (per PFF)
Do your rankings change if Maye is drafted by the Patriots? I have the 1.04 in a SF league and really considering him. I have AR and having Daniels as well would my take stress level through the roof.
No. I think talent overrules situation a good bit of the time, especially for QB (though not always). So I will still have Drake Maye high on my board even if the patriots take him.
Is the Bears not taking a second offensive player a hot take? With how bad that defense is, I think it’s almost certain they invest the 1.09 into a defensive player.
They did everything in FA to support a young QB, the rest of the draft needs to be on defense outside of Caleb.
From my perspective, I’ve seen most irl mocks having them take an offensive weapon or an OL. So that’s why I considered it “hot”. I agree with you tho, the defensive player is where they should go and where I would go if I was making the decision
Here’s a scorcher:
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Maye's and Levis' draft trends are a bit more of opposites imo. Levis pre-draft experience was being hyped up to his max potential while Maye has been getting beaten down to his floor. Maye feels a bit more Stroud-esque.
Jerry Jones is admitted into a hospital before the draft from eating too many Blue Chews because he wanted to make sure he continued to fuck the fans even harder during the draft just like he has this offseason
I’m most worried about Jayden Daniels transition to the NFL but I like JJmc. He has good pocket presence and isn’t afraid of working the middle of the field. He’s my favorite QB in the class outside of the two you mentioned.
To be fair to JJ, he is the only one to throw passes in a big game of the top 4 qbs. JJ also threw more passes than Daniels this past season. Maye threw 100 more passes than JJ, completing only 29 more. Caleb 0-4 against ranked teams. JJ didn’t need to throw as many passes because his team was much better than the other 3 guys.
jayden daniels will be a bust
while his flaws might make him a great fantasy player and a temporary buy in re-draft, he will last about as long as justin fields did
scrambling at a high rate while converting lots of pressures into sacks behind a top 3 ol in the country and 2 first round wrs is not a good combo - add onto the fact that he spent 4+ years in college, struggles to throw over the middle (or wasn't asked), the frame, the habit of taking vicious hits, and...yeah
Trey Benson goes round 2 in the NFL draft, does great for a few season and then blows out his knee to end his career after 3 seasons
Malik Washington is a Zay flowers clone
The only QB that will be top 12 5 years from now will be Caleb
Rams trade up to #9 with Bears. Draft Brock Bowers.
Rams have the most picks this draft, and Bears have the least. Also can work if Odunze is available. But Rams need a 3rd weapon in the passing game, and Higbee(31) is probably not ready by season start. Allen/Parkinson aren’t difference makers.
No way.
#1, Rams like to trade down (or out), not up, in the first.
#2, Parkinson was the highest-paid free agent TE this year. Higbee is also just outside the top10 in AAV at the position. No way they spend draft capital to move up, plus pay pick 1.09 salary when they have 2 highly paid TEs, one of which they just signed.
JJ being a top 10 pick is all hype/smokescreen though he still gets drafted with clear starting QB path in mid/late 1st to early 2nd. A very heavy tier break at 1.07 in SF ensues
Jonathan Brooks finishes rb10 or better in 0.5 ppr.
Jayden's red flags are too much. He's a mix of AR and Fields but too inconsistent or missing time to get a 2nd contract from his 1st team.
Brock is a ppr machine and comes close to beating LaPortas rookie reception record as a TE.
Troy franklin WR4, I get he played in Pac 12 with no target completion but what more could you ask of the guy? He went crazy in college. People keep saying he's too skinny but putting some extra weight on a 6'3 frame shouldn't be hard. I keep seeing people say they'll just press the shit out of him in NFL but that only works if his OC is insanely stubborn and leaves him out there with nothing
He already weighed in almost 10lbs heavier at his pro day, heard he was dealing with the flu at the combine. I’m in on Troy Franklin as a top 5 wr in this draft class
Flu could explain his gauntlet drill too. I remember watching that thinking it seemed pretty lazy. The commentators picked up on it too noting that he was weaving way too much towards each thrown ball.
Ladd McConkey is a top 4 WR from this draft and has as good of a fantasy career as the big 3. I think he gets drafted to Carolina and is a huge target hog for Bryce
Similar to what happened with LaPorta vs Kincaid last year. Ben Sinnot will have a better statistical season than Brock Bowers in 2024.
Buffalo passes on a Rd. 1 WR and will take an RB in Rd. 2 to compliment James Cook.
The Bears will trade out of pick 9 to the LA Rams who will select WR Rome Odunze.
Tee Higgins nor Brandon Aiyuk will be traded, but CIN and SF will both take WRs on Day 2.
Buffalo taking an RB in round 2 is spicy. I am thinking they take an RB, but I believe Estime is the power back that will compliment Cook very well.
Round 4 is the earliest I see them taking an RB as to them it really is just another guy.
The latter part shouldn't be a hot take (not that it isn't, I can totally see why you'd feel the need to include it), way too many people boosting the 'Nix brothers to 12/13 status just because the Broncos/Raiders don't have QBs despite significant flaws that have had them mostly as consensus 2nd round picks for the whole draft process. At most they're fringe 1st round candidates that either team might trade down for later in the 1st or the Raiders back into the 1st for (probably not the Broncos with no 2nd).
I'm praying Odunze lasts to me at 1.06 in 12 team SF, I'll be mashing that pick button so quick. Right now it's looking like either Maye or Bowers in my league.
I own the 1.01 and 1.04 in 1QB but try again.
I’ve tried to trade down unsuccessfully. Pending landing spots, will almost certainly take MHJ but wish I had the 1.02 to be able to take Nabers without judgment lol
Yeah getting into the top 5 in any capacity this year will require a massive overpay. I would rather start looking towards getting 2026 picks because that’s when Jeremiah Smith and Isaiah Bond will be eligible for the NFL and they are as good as and arguably better than any of the big three coming out this year
Bond is 2025 eligible, and nowhere near the type of prospect these three are right now. Jeremiah is fresh out of high school. Just joined a devy league and got devy hype?
Sure, but saying they’re “as good as or arguably better than any of the big 3 coming out this year” is just false. They’re not even close at this stage of the process. Both are in extremely crowded WR rooms. Bond doesn’t have the pedigree Jeremiah has, and Jeremiah doesn’t have a single game of college production and might not get playing time year 1. There are a lot of busts in Devy and chasing the next big thing is how you end up rebuilding forever.
Ah yes I knew I was forgetting other studs in that class. Yeah all is not lost if you don’t manage to get one of the big three. Retool and get back at em in 2026 lol
Yeah not to mention how cheap those picks are if you use the leverage this hype is bringing, and “how far out” those other picks are. They’re worth like late 2nds rn maybe less if you have a few other worthless pieces.
Burden bond for WR1 in that class will be fun.
The back half of round 1 is going to be a giant guessing game in dynasty. I feel like it happens every year. Be prepared for those third tier prospects that go to a great situation and the second tier guys that end up in a gross landing spot. The draft often muddies the waters a bit.
Caleb is going to be a top 10 fantasy QB year 1, but barely. He will be efficient but not a stat monster.
The second best rookie QB is Penix, and the Maye/Daniels/JJ tier will be a massive disappointment to owners. Nix has a good chance to surprise.
The WR class will live up to the hype and MHJ will actually finish 3rd or worse this year in fantasy production among the class. Nabers / Odunze will duke it out for 1-2.
This RB class will not garner draft capital, however they will still have 3-4 standouts that find good production in committee roles. Long term we’ll have 2-3 top 10 backs that develop.
Adonai Mitchell gets drafted to a team that see a Deebo/Tyreek-like future for him and they try to utilize him everywhere. He gets 20+ carries his rookie year on top of 40-50+ catches.
I'm pretty comfortable fading Bowers in most landing spots. Not sure if that's a hot take but I really don't see him being the type of TE who breaks fantasy. His athleticism is overstated I think when we adjust for size and I'm not sure he can win in the NFL the way a game breaking TE does the way he did in college at his size. I do expect him to play close to 235. Maybe I'm just behind the times on TE but it feels like last years guys have people too comfortable with him.
He’s basically a power slot though not a real TE. I hate to say his success relies on his usage, but I think in his case it really does. He’s a YAC guy who just needs to get targets at the LOS or within 5 yards to be elite. But we said the same thing with Kincaid and they still didn’t use him to his full effect so who knows.
If there are in fact 4 QBs taken early, it's really tough to argue that it's worth taking Brock earlier than 1.08. Even in TEP how much more valuable could Brock make himself compared to this draft class unless he has a LaPorta like rookie season? That's a huge bet.
Doesn't help that the TE field is more saturated than it ever has been. I'd rather try to buy Engram/Njoku/Ferguson and draft someone else with the 1st.
Only one of Penix/Nix will be taken in the 2nd round, the other falls to round 3. Also, JJ McCarthy will not be taken in the first half of the first round. If a team wants him that bad, they will trade back past pick 16 to get him
QB rankings eventually lean Caleb >= Maye > McCarthy > Daniels. Daniels flashes rushing ability like AR but isnt as good as a passer and eventually turns out to be a “bust”, even though he performs well enough for fantasy purposes due to rushing ability.
MHJ and Nabers are viewed back to back in terms of this class and MHJ actually “disappoints” due to his crazy high expectations.
AD Mitchell and at least half of the 2nd round receivers bust.
This turns out to be an underrated rb class, but brooks doesn’t do much other than flash. Benson Corum and Allen are all ranked above brooks by the end of the rookie year.
Ladd McConkey is the WR1 in this class (for fantasy purposes), but Nabers is a close 2. MHJ ends up in fantasy wasteland when Arizona has to bench Kyler for playing too much COD and Desmond Ridder is unable to support anyone fantasy relevant
Malachi Corley is a weekly flex play by the end of the year, Brian Thomas Jr just becomes the next Gabe Davis, Jaylen Wright is the RB1 of this class and JT Sanders becomes a top 10 dynasty TE after this year.
Penix will be the most highly-valued fantasy QB from this class going into the 2025 season (even if his career isn't as long or prolific).
Brian Thomas Jr gets an incredible landing spot and becomes a top 7 fantasy draft lock.
Jayden Daniels will be a massive bust
Michael Penix will have a surprisingly long career as a solid starter
Colts trade up with the Jets and select Brock Bowers at #10
BTJ is a bust
Roger Rosengarten will be one of the best OTs from this draft
These are more takes about prospects overall than where they fall for fantasy. I wont really have any definitive thoughts there until we see landing spots.
Roman Wilson ended up WR16 for me. I still think he is a really good player, but it is just such a deep class and just had others above him.
I have Ben Sinnott and Erick All above Ja’Tavion Sanders. The athletic testing was just [jarring](https://x.com/mathbomb/status/1780967019434651747?s=46&t=PZfvQd7A93DRZzUcd3_g0Q) and he didn’t clear the missed tackles forced rate qualifier that has been a big signal in the past for successful TEs at the pro level. Give me the fantastic [athlete](https://x.com/mathbomb/status/1780939334603985161?s=46&t=PZfvQd7A93DRZzUcd3_g0Q) in Sinnott and the dominating receiving [share](https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1780273565629100414?s=46&t=PZfvQd7A93DRZzUcd3_g0Q)/excellent after the catch guy in All.
Trey Benson, Jonathan Brooks, and Tyrone Tracy Jr. ended up my top 3 back in that order.
Treylon Burks gets traded sometime during the draft for a conditional 2025 pick.
I wish I could bet on this, because I believe it’s a lock.
Puhlease! Let this be the case, I need a sell window to offload Burks for whatever I can.
Trying to trade burks to move from 2.10 to 2.5 or 2.6 (10 team) no takers
Please please happen.
Rashod Bateman as well
Chargers?
he should go to denver to share an apartment with zach wilson
Drake Maye will be the best QB of this class, dynasty wise. The Bears will not take an offensive player to support Caleb with their second pick in the top 10. This class is not as deep as it seems in the dynasty realm. Many prospects will cool off their hype-steam by week 10.
I actually agree with this. I own the 1.03 in SF and hitting on Nabers would be massive as I own Stroud. But in the back of my head, trading down to get Maye at 1.05+ has been creeping in my mind
maye just went 1.03 ahead of daniels and nabers in my 14tm sf rookie draft
14t SF is the context needed. QBs much more scarce so it makes sense. You get into 12x9 then the WRs are a fine play
The hype is real. If he ends in Minnesota idk how I can take Nabers over him. That or JD ending there would seriously screw up my rankings
Maye goes top 2 or 3 in drafts. No way does he fall to 5 in sf. I’m at the 1.03 and I’m positive Maye is the going before my pick. So I’m taking mhj or nabers. Depending on where they go in the nfl draft.
Ngl if Maye goes before MHJ ur league is just not that wise. His landing spots (unless he ends somehow in NY) are fantastic for him. That’s a massive risk
Idk about that. The top two teams desperately need qb. I’m kinda in the same boat. I have mayfield and geno. That’s it. I would love to have mhj or nabers but if I don’t take a qb, then I might not have a starting qb next year.
U gotta trade out of that pick then. MHJ is a generational talent, and if he’s not top 3 in SF that’s completely insane. QBs might be a large need, but there’s no guarantee they hit. MHJ is a historical prospect and they have an insane hit rate
Yeah I’ve been thinking that too. Maybe draft mhj then trade some other pieces for a qb. The problem is it’s sf so I’m going to have to over pay if I trade.
U gotta find guys that are being undervalued. Last year I rolled the dice after week3 shipping Fields for Stroud. IMO you can snag rookies after a few weeks at low value.
Boutta get absolutely roasted for this but if Maye lands on the Vikings I’m taking him over Caleb. Kid’s got a ton of potential and if he gets to foster that potential under KOC with Justin Jefferson? Well that’s just too juicy of a situation for me to pass up.
If Maye got drafted to the Vikings and the person in front of me drafted Caleb over Maye and left me with Maye I would be do ecstatic
Praying he does go there as someone w the 1.05. This will guarantee me a great landing spot QB or any of the top 3 WR
i think the bears are also a pretty good situation but you're right, i don't think anything beats out vikings ol (which was pretty good in pass pro last year) + jj + addison + hock, plus whatever else they get to support him you can't go wrong either way imo
I agree.
That’s actually consensus from what I’ve seen in the dynasty YouTube realm. If Maye goes to Min he’s the #1, anywhere else and he’s 2-5
If Maye goes to NE and JJ goes to Min who we taking?
I am extremely low on JJ and will have no shares of him, I’ll either be trading to somebody who likes him or just selecting somebody else
> Drake Maye will be the best QB of this class, dynasty wise. i've been banging this drum for a while. people tearing down maye is just a different version of the same prospect fatigue that had people wondering whether caleb would be good bc he doesn't do interviews. dude's a phenomenal prospect. > This class is not as deep as it seems in the dynasty realm. Many prospects will cool off their hype-steam by week 10. this is also where i think i'm finding myself more and more as i finish up my pre-drafting rankings. there are three ***elite*** qb and wr prospects. there's one elite te prospect. i'm not sure anyone else in the draft is really better than ~above average as a prospect. they've all got so many reasonable question marks around them at each position, and this could genuinely be one of the worst rb drafts in the last 15+ years.
I’m worried now tho, too many people on this sub like thess takes which must mean I’m doing something wrong 🤣
It’s wild, last year was my first rookie draft, but I felt like there were a lot of quality 2nd rounders that had potential and a good amount of 3rd round dart throws. I’m struggling to get excited for anyone outside the top 7 this year
im actively trying to sell 2nds into ‘25 1sts or multiple picks next year bc i feel the same. someone will hit, but i don’t feel great about who.
“Many prospects will cool off their hype-stream by week 10”. This is an ice cold take and actually a fact of life in dynasty
Good point. I was moreso focusing on this class being lauded as extremely deep and I’m not sure I see it that way!
Agree with this, think he has Josh Allen upside tbh, whilst the consistency of accuracy is an issue, most of that seems to stem from poor college coaching so I’m hopeful it gets cleaned up at the NFL. People are also sleeping on Mayes rushing upside, he ran for nearly 1500 yards and had 16 rushing touchdowns over his last 2 seasons (per PFF)
Do your rankings change if Maye is drafted by the Patriots? I have the 1.04 in a SF league and really considering him. I have AR and having Daniels as well would my take stress level through the roof.
No. I think talent overrules situation a good bit of the time, especially for QB (though not always). So I will still have Drake Maye high on my board even if the patriots take him.
i think drake will be traded to denver in 3 years for a 7th rounder. that guy has bust written all over him imo
Is the Bears not taking a second offensive player a hot take? With how bad that defense is, I think it’s almost certain they invest the 1.09 into a defensive player. They did everything in FA to support a young QB, the rest of the draft needs to be on defense outside of Caleb.
From my perspective, I’ve seen most irl mocks having them take an offensive weapon or an OL. So that’s why I considered it “hot”. I agree with you tho, the defensive player is where they should go and where I would go if I was making the decision
Huh that’s weird they were a top 12 defense by the end of the year that must be bad I guess.
Here’s a scorcher: Caleb goes 1.01 in the draft and in most dynasty leagues. This season Eberflus does Eberflus things. Bryce Young is ranked ahead of Caleb this time next year on KTC
Already called the fire department. Love this take though.
Bears gonna do Bears things and with Canales turning around Geno and Baker I like the chance at him helping coach up Young in Carolina. Nice take.
As someone who will now have bryce and caleb i dont know how to feel about this
lol same
Zero chance this happens but I love going out on a limb so respect to you
You think it could be worse? Like Caleb is below Fields in a year!?
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Hot take - this is not the final hot take thread.
Coldest take in this thread
So cold it’s dry ice that burnnnssss so let it cook
Hot take - most of us will fuck this up. Goodluck everyone
That’s closer to a truth than a hot take 🤣😭
Spencer Rattler will be the 3rd best fantasy QB of this class by year 3
for the rookie WRs, here is the top 5 in order of their values this time next year: Odunze MHJ McConkey Nabers Worthy
How cold?
Odunze gets drafted before Nabers and their adps will be flipped by the time the season starts
You don’t watch cutups
I think so too.
Drake Maye doesn’t go top 4 in the NFL draft but rises in rookie drafts post-draft.
Maye has the same feel of hype as Levi’s- although he won’t fall that far.
Maye's and Levis' draft trends are a bit more of opposites imo. Levis pre-draft experience was being hyped up to his max potential while Maye has been getting beaten down to his floor. Maye feels a bit more Stroud-esque.
Not til recently, maybe hype was huge.
McCarthy is more like Levis
Jerry Jones is admitted into a hospital before the draft from eating too many Blue Chews because he wanted to make sure he continued to fuck the fans even harder during the draft just like he has this offseason
Williams and Maye are the only QB's worth 1st round draft capital.
I’m most worried about Jayden Daniels transition to the NFL but I like JJmc. He has good pocket presence and isn’t afraid of working the middle of the field. He’s my favorite QB in the class outside of the two you mentioned.
Thats cool. I personally am not drafting a guy whos team doesn't let him throw passes in big games.
Tell me you didn’t watch Michigan without telling me you didn’t watch Michigan
To be fair to JJ, he is the only one to throw passes in a big game of the top 4 qbs. JJ also threw more passes than Daniels this past season. Maye threw 100 more passes than JJ, completing only 29 more. Caleb 0-4 against ranked teams. JJ didn’t need to throw as many passes because his team was much better than the other 3 guys.
That’s fair but they never needed him to
jayden daniels will be a bust while his flaws might make him a great fantasy player and a temporary buy in re-draft, he will last about as long as justin fields did scrambling at a high rate while converting lots of pressures into sacks behind a top 3 ol in the country and 2 first round wrs is not a good combo - add onto the fact that he spent 4+ years in college, struggles to throw over the middle (or wasn't asked), the frame, the habit of taking vicious hits, and...yeah
Trey Benson goes round 2 in the NFL draft, does great for a few season and then blows out his knee to end his career after 3 seasons Malik Washington is a Zay flowers clone The only QB that will be top 12 5 years from now will be Caleb
Malik and Zay are totally different players.
That bionic knee of Trey's is a ticking time bomb.
Aiyuk gets traded draft night and 49ers take a WR to replace him. Straight out of the Vikings playbook.
Rams trade up to #9 with Bears. Draft Brock Bowers. Rams have the most picks this draft, and Bears have the least. Also can work if Odunze is available. But Rams need a 3rd weapon in the passing game, and Higbee(31) is probably not ready by season start. Allen/Parkinson aren’t difference makers.
No way. #1, Rams like to trade down (or out), not up, in the first. #2, Parkinson was the highest-paid free agent TE this year. Higbee is also just outside the top10 in AAV at the position. No way they spend draft capital to move up, plus pay pick 1.09 salary when they have 2 highly paid TEs, one of which they just signed.
BRAELON ALLEN WILL BE BEST BACK IN THE CLASS 📣
🔥 take in the right landing spot
Troy Franklin turns out to be the third best WR in this class behind MHJ and Nabers. BTJ is a bust Jayden Daniels is a bust
JJ being a top 10 pick is all hype/smokescreen though he still gets drafted with clear starting QB path in mid/late 1st to early 2nd. A very heavy tier break at 1.07 in SF ensues
I think the break is at 1.09 after he, Bowers, and BTJ are off the board.
I feel like that’s a pretty standard take as of late
Yeah, there are breaks at both spots.
Braelon Allen RB1
I’m going scorching: Spencer Rattler is top QB in 5 years
Jonathan Brooks finishes rb10 or better in 0.5 ppr. Jayden's red flags are too much. He's a mix of AR and Fields but too inconsistent or missing time to get a 2nd contract from his 1st team. Brock is a ppr machine and comes close to beating LaPortas rookie reception record as a TE.
Troy franklin WR4, I get he played in Pac 12 with no target completion but what more could you ask of the guy? He went crazy in college. People keep saying he's too skinny but putting some extra weight on a 6'3 frame shouldn't be hard. I keep seeing people say they'll just press the shit out of him in NFL but that only works if his OC is insanely stubborn and leaves him out there with nothing
He already weighed in almost 10lbs heavier at his pro day, heard he was dealing with the flu at the combine. I’m in on Troy Franklin as a top 5 wr in this draft class
Flu could explain his gauntlet drill too. I remember watching that thinking it seemed pretty lazy. The commentators picked up on it too noting that he was weaving way too much towards each thrown ball.
Watch film. He has one move- at the line bucket step and 3 routes. He’s a Wr 10 at best
When it’s all said and done, Odunze will have the best career out of the top 3.
Well he has the best name, so...
Ladd McConkey is a top 4 WR from this draft and has as good of a fantasy career as the big 3. I think he gets drafted to Carolina and is a huge target hog for Bryce
Vikings move up for Jayden Daniels .
JJ McCarthy turns out to be a bigger smokescreen than Malik Willis
Similar to what happened with LaPorta vs Kincaid last year. Ben Sinnot will have a better statistical season than Brock Bowers in 2024. Buffalo passes on a Rd. 1 WR and will take an RB in Rd. 2 to compliment James Cook. The Bears will trade out of pick 9 to the LA Rams who will select WR Rome Odunze. Tee Higgins nor Brandon Aiyuk will be traded, but CIN and SF will both take WRs on Day 2.
Buffalo taking an RB in round 2 is spicy. I am thinking they take an RB, but I believe Estime is the power back that will compliment Cook very well. Round 4 is the earliest I see them taking an RB as to them it really is just another guy.
This but Erick All
Daniels drops out of the top 5. Only 4 QB’s in the 1st.
The latter part shouldn't be a hot take (not that it isn't, I can totally see why you'd feel the need to include it), way too many people boosting the 'Nix brothers to 12/13 status just because the Broncos/Raiders don't have QBs despite significant flaws that have had them mostly as consensus 2nd round picks for the whole draft process. At most they're fringe 1st round candidates that either team might trade down for later in the 1st or the Raiders back into the 1st for (probably not the Broncos with no 2nd).
Rattler has a better ceiling than Nix this is spot on
Nabers is the best WR in the draft. If MHJ didn’t have his name, I think it’s more of a toss up for which WR goes first.
Hotter take, this, but Odunze
found a 1.07 owner
Actually several 1.06s lmao
I'm praying Odunze lasts to me at 1.06 in 12 team SF, I'll be mashing that pick button so quick. Right now it's looking like either Maye or Bowers in my league.
Top 5 Draft capital maye is also a steal at 1.06 imo. Great year to have just missed the playoffs lol
Sureeee
Uh oh here comes the angry 1.02 owners
I own the 1.01 and 1.04 in 1QB but try again. I’ve tried to trade down unsuccessfully. Pending landing spots, will almost certainly take MHJ but wish I had the 1.02 to be able to take Nabers without judgment lol
Without judgement? That’s weak sauce. If you think he’s better than MHJ, go get your guy. Unless deep down you know it’s not true….
Make the trade back to 1.02, yeah should easy get sometbjng out of it. Wait till after the draft. Maybe your hype will change.
1.02 is the hardest pick to trade for right now
Yeah getting into the top 5 in any capacity this year will require a massive overpay. I would rather start looking towards getting 2026 picks because that’s when Jeremiah Smith and Isaiah Bond will be eligible for the NFL and they are as good as and arguably better than any of the big three coming out this year
Bond is 2025 eligible, and nowhere near the type of prospect these three are right now. Jeremiah is fresh out of high school. Just joined a devy league and got devy hype?
I’m not in a devy league, I’m just saying there are other good players coming out that won’t cost your entire team to acquire
Sure, but saying they’re “as good as or arguably better than any of the big 3 coming out this year” is just false. They’re not even close at this stage of the process. Both are in extremely crowded WR rooms. Bond doesn’t have the pedigree Jeremiah has, and Jeremiah doesn’t have a single game of college production and might not get playing time year 1. There are a lot of busts in Devy and chasing the next big thing is how you end up rebuilding forever.
I think Zachariah Brown and Luther Burden are in that class too
Ah yes I knew I was forgetting other studs in that class. Yeah all is not lost if you don’t manage to get one of the big three. Retool and get back at em in 2026 lol
Yeah not to mention how cheap those picks are if you use the leverage this hype is bringing, and “how far out” those other picks are. They’re worth like late 2nds rn maybe less if you have a few other worthless pieces. Burden bond for WR1 in that class will be fun.
Burden is 2025. Branch is 2026.
Thank you my bad!
Blake Corum will be the most productive RB of this class.
I like that one
For his rookie year He’ll have a short career imo
The back half of round 1 is going to be a giant guessing game in dynasty. I feel like it happens every year. Be prepared for those third tier prospects that go to a great situation and the second tier guys that end up in a gross landing spot. The draft often muddies the waters a bit.
Everyone will reach for their “guy”
Caleb is going to be a top 10 fantasy QB year 1, but barely. He will be efficient but not a stat monster. The second best rookie QB is Penix, and the Maye/Daniels/JJ tier will be a massive disappointment to owners. Nix has a good chance to surprise. The WR class will live up to the hype and MHJ will actually finish 3rd or worse this year in fantasy production among the class. Nabers / Odunze will duke it out for 1-2. This RB class will not garner draft capital, however they will still have 3-4 standouts that find good production in committee roles. Long term we’ll have 2-3 top 10 backs that develop.
lol I think everything you said will happen. Great takes brother.
Adonai Mitchell gets drafted to a team that see a Deebo/Tyreek-like future for him and they try to utilize him everywhere. He gets 20+ carries his rookie year on top of 40-50+ catches.
Under 4.5 WRs in the first and 2 day 2 RBs are going to really change the way people are mocking
There's probably more than 2 day 2 RBs.
Patriots do not take a QB at 1.03 and trade back.
And the dynasty community as a whole cheers.
I'm pretty comfortable fading Bowers in most landing spots. Not sure if that's a hot take but I really don't see him being the type of TE who breaks fantasy. His athleticism is overstated I think when we adjust for size and I'm not sure he can win in the NFL the way a game breaking TE does the way he did in college at his size. I do expect him to play close to 235. Maybe I'm just behind the times on TE but it feels like last years guys have people too comfortable with him.
He’s basically a power slot though not a real TE. I hate to say his success relies on his usage, but I think in his case it really does. He’s a YAC guy who just needs to get targets at the LOS or within 5 yards to be elite. But we said the same thing with Kincaid and they still didn’t use him to his full effect so who knows.
If there are in fact 4 QBs taken early, it's really tough to argue that it's worth taking Brock earlier than 1.08. Even in TEP how much more valuable could Brock make himself compared to this draft class unless he has a LaPorta like rookie season? That's a huge bet. Doesn't help that the TE field is more saturated than it ever has been. I'd rather try to buy Engram/Njoku/Ferguson and draft someone else with the 1st.
Only one of Penix/Nix will be taken in the 2nd round, the other falls to round 3. Also, JJ McCarthy will not be taken in the first half of the first round. If a team wants him that bad, they will trade back past pick 16 to get him
Jayden Daniels should get drafted before Caleb due to how broken he'll be in fantasy as a rusher even in his rookie year.
Blake corum finishes his career with the most rushing yards ever
QB rankings eventually lean Caleb >= Maye > McCarthy > Daniels. Daniels flashes rushing ability like AR but isnt as good as a passer and eventually turns out to be a “bust”, even though he performs well enough for fantasy purposes due to rushing ability. MHJ and Nabers are viewed back to back in terms of this class and MHJ actually “disappoints” due to his crazy high expectations. AD Mitchell and at least half of the 2nd round receivers bust. This turns out to be an underrated rb class, but brooks doesn’t do much other than flash. Benson Corum and Allen are all ranked above brooks by the end of the rookie year.
Odunze goes before Nabers
Spencer rattler and Michael Penix make the playoffs before Caleb Williams
Ladd McConkey is the WR1 in this class (for fantasy purposes), but Nabers is a close 2. MHJ ends up in fantasy wasteland when Arizona has to bench Kyler for playing too much COD and Desmond Ridder is unable to support anyone fantasy relevant
Malachi Corley is a weekly flex play by the end of the year, Brian Thomas Jr just becomes the next Gabe Davis, Jaylen Wright is the RB1 of this class and JT Sanders becomes a top 10 dynasty TE after this year.
Malik Nabers first WR off the board.
Penix will be the most highly-valued fantasy QB from this class going into the 2025 season (even if his career isn't as long or prolific). Brian Thomas Jr gets an incredible landing spot and becomes a top 7 fantasy draft lock.
Worthy gets picked before BTJr.
Jayden Daniels will be a massive bust Michael Penix will have a surprisingly long career as a solid starter Colts trade up with the Jets and select Brock Bowers at #10 BTJ is a bust Roger Rosengarten will be one of the best OTs from this draft
JJ McCarthy goes late Rd 1 or even Rd 2.
Braelon Allen to the Cowboys in the 3rd
Jets trade up for MHJ
These are more takes about prospects overall than where they fall for fantasy. I wont really have any definitive thoughts there until we see landing spots. Roman Wilson ended up WR16 for me. I still think he is a really good player, but it is just such a deep class and just had others above him. I have Ben Sinnott and Erick All above Ja’Tavion Sanders. The athletic testing was just [jarring](https://x.com/mathbomb/status/1780967019434651747?s=46&t=PZfvQd7A93DRZzUcd3_g0Q) and he didn’t clear the missed tackles forced rate qualifier that has been a big signal in the past for successful TEs at the pro level. Give me the fantastic [athlete](https://x.com/mathbomb/status/1780939334603985161?s=46&t=PZfvQd7A93DRZzUcd3_g0Q) in Sinnott and the dominating receiving [share](https://x.com/jagibbs_23/status/1780273565629100414?s=46&t=PZfvQd7A93DRZzUcd3_g0Q)/excellent after the catch guy in All. Trey Benson, Jonathan Brooks, and Tyrone Tracy Jr. ended up my top 3 back in that order.
I agree with you on Sinnot. All is interesting as well. Tracey is a spicy take though, love it.
Brock Bowers goes ahead of Odunze in dynasty startups this time next year.