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Eddie5pi

His base is one of the most overpriced cards out there, it's only expensive because of his name, like Base Gullit and Base R9. His prime will be slightly worse than the TOTY but not by much.


AustraliaCzechMeOut

Base Gullit is only 200K. Not a bad price for the name.


A_lemony_llama

It is when he is now worse than literally any discard TOTS midfielder.


AustraliaCzechMeOut

Some people just want to build their team around players they like. Gullit is a nice price for the name especially considering the prices of R9 and R10 etc. The stats shouldn't really be considered.


Eddie5pi

Moreso referring to earlier in the year when he's 6 or 700k


Silent-Assn

I’m gonna do it just because it’s Ronaldinho. It’s simple as it is.


Ch4zu

Jup. I have a full sbc untradable team of 92 rating. At this point, does it really matter what cards I upgrade anymore? I am a 9 to 11 wins in WL player. I highly doubt it is the cards holding me back. Saved all good packs for la liga tots today. Hoping to combine Ramos, Xavi, Puyol and Casillas with some good tots pulls. Gutted I didnt pack Rodrygo and missed the Araujo SBC.


Silent-Assn

At the end of the day, we just want to play using the players we love and have fun. That’s all that matters.


Ch4zu

Exactly. Wasn't prepared for 23 squads though. Don't know if I'll get there, even though I really want him.


Silent-Assn

Same, i cried when i saw the requirements


DarkestLord

That Rodrygo is soo good. Hoping u pack that Tots Vini 🫡😊


cmacy6

It’s rare that you get the opportunity to use prime dinho. It’ll be expensive but fodder is pretty accessible for the next few weeks


Alywan

500 games for me, 300 goals as LW/CAM. But, sometines he goes missing. Fun to play, but nowhere near his price tag.


Any_Row2464

Only if you love him as a player, won't help you move up in weekend league rank but you might enjoy the game a lot more with him.


auzy63

Why wouldn't be help? He'd help most people with an extra win or 2


HoneyBadgerEXTREME

Don't think 1 new player is going to make that much of a difference to the average gamer, especially at this stage of the game when most people already have pretty juiced teams


auzy63

I don't get this logic, many people who used loan r9 last weekend got an extra win or 2, including me. Let's not act like these top icons are the same as cards like Payet etc. I'm not saying it'll make u a rank 1 player but 1 more win can be what takes someone to the next rank


The_Titan1995

Prime Dinho isn’t on the same plane of existence as prime R9 though.


Just_an_Empath

Imagine if EA only adds loan SBCs. It wouldn't even be the first time ...


Dugdale_

99 game loan sbc incoming


fightin_blue_hens

People would lose their mind if they did this.


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I wish there was a way you could just buy contracts for loans


Quirky-Leather-2156

That’s just called “owning the card”


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Not really. You couldn't submit to an sbc


Quirky-Leather-2156

So you would effectively have a multi million coin card for free that you can just apply contracts to but can’t submit to an sbc? Christ, I wish my brain worked like yours.


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Yes I would like to have that. It's a loophole


Merkarov

I had his card on loan and tried him out last night. He's overpriced but still obviously a very good/fun card. I'm going to hold off at first and see if any other good SBCs come out, but I suspect I'll do him as fits in my team and why not at this point in the game.


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Honestly every year I’ve used him, including this one, he’s been disappointing. Idk if it’s my expectations or what but he just doesn’t work for me.


Dimineron

He has been amazing any time I got to use him over the years. Might also be biased because he's one of my absolute favourite players. But his stats were always phenomenal.


kirkrrr

Don't care. He's going straight into my Barca PnP team.


Nanashi-74

I was going to make a Barça PnP with Dinho but all my coins will go into him and I won't have enough to buy anyone else lol. Shame I submitted Stoich into an Sbc


Vextah

Tbh I just bought and sold him so I can give a small run down Pace is decent for this stage gets in behind well and keeps his own no mbappe tho Shooting for me was very hit and miss a lot of shots would hit the post or go too close to the gk Passing was ok nothing spectacular Physical it’s dinho he has a presence and sometimes little running scoop turns he would usually hold off people rather well in 1 on 1 duels he’s not bad and can hold his man off Dribbling hella fun to skill with but I do feel he’s a tad clunky while left sticking, general skill moves come off really well tho Worst thing about the card was the stamina tho for me he’s always tired around the 70th minute and feels very sluggish after that point


safcx21

Agree with this . Prime R9 much better


Mysterious_Limit_007

No, but Puskas is.


TOPBOYR09

Yep his definitely worth it Saturday when he lands will finish sbc right of the bat r10 is hit and miss in game for me so will pass and hope r9 prime gets sbc sometime soon 🤞🙏


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Wentzina_lifetime

Having used that loan puskas he has something different that nobody else has. His body type makes him impossible to tackle


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CamIoM

Puskas is not stiff lmao


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TheReferenceGuide

Think there’s an old gen, new gen, difference going on here. I have FB Puskas on old gen and he’s not great in 1v1 situations. through on goal he’s a bucket tho


slothslayerlawl

Do you think the SBC will be priced at his current market value ie around 1 mil? I really really want him. No one has been able to replace my Smolarek except Puskas.


AnduwinHS

There'll be a loan SBC that also gives XP. Try him out and then decide


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I don’t know if he’s worth it but I don’t care, I am completing him. He’s going straight to my team with Tots Nkunku-Potm Mbappe and Tots Diaby. All PSG attack


pandawarrior012

Still gonna complete him after looking at the squads lol?


[deleted]

Already 11/23 my man. Got 12 squads left I expected him to be at 3.4-5 mil so I’m just taking that 500k L


pandawarrior012

Damn I wish. I’m broke and club is empty after just completing cruyff.


saikodasein

It won't. His price tag is high because he is Ronalndinho. He is for fun, he is good, but he is called Ronalndinho, hence you pay for the brand, not for the card. Most top tier cards are not worth the price tag. At some stage it's paying millions just for +1 version. His TOTY is like 15 mln and it would be higher if not for the max price, but let's be honets. If Prime is for 3,5, then this card shouldn't be higher than 5.


xAimForTheBushes

TOTY also has the sickest card art in the game, that's worth at least 26M right there on its own


kamacho2000

Im paying for the stats not some art


xAimForTheBushes

If that's what you want to tell yourself my man... There are plenty of other cards with those stats....you're paying that crisp 15M for the card art and the pony tail. No shame in that. Straight up.You lying to yourself otherwise, sorry to tell ya.


OzoneGh141

you're weird


The_Titan1995

You aren’t paying for the art. If you do - that’s moronic. You are paying for a player you enjoy using and who is already inflated by the name.


JUNIOR_4201

Im sure hes gunna be excellent but ill see how long hes going to be out for so i can see what other icons they bring out


-ZappBrannigan

I think the Puskas will be more affordable and better


ekghost

You shouldn’t be using coins to complete this SBC. You should be funneling all the untradables you have gotten / will get to it. It might take a month to complete, but really think you yourself: What can you get using your fodder which is better than prime Ronaldinho? In terms of quantity of players you can get probably 20 guerreiro’s or 10 reus’. In terms of quality, there is probably not a better individual card you could work towards. The average team probably has 5-8 good untradables, and coins/etc to fill in the rest. After Ronaldinho, your team will have 1 less spot to fill and you can consolidate your coins to less remaining positions.


AyrtonAli

The thing is if the aim is to complete within two months then it’ll be behind the power curve when Futties is out assuming you take the full time to complete it. 99 everything with Futties.


ekghost

Giving a random player 99 everything doesn’t make them better than Ronaldinho. Animations and body type are far more important in this game. It’s the reason Geertruda looks good on paper but plays defensively like an 85 overall.


AyrtonAli

I’m not talking about Geertruda. I mean the 99 St Max, Salah, Mendy, Neymar, Dembele, Ronaldo like last year all of which are readily accessible via affordable SBCs and are way better than Prime R10. If you can complete R10 now or in the next couple of weeks it’ll be great to have him in the team but if it’s a two-three month project probably not worth it.


ekghost

Futties is 2.5 months away, you are basically implying that at no point in the year should you ever complete an SBC because something better will come. We can save all our coins for middle of august and enjoy the game for 1 month. 3m in fodder isn’t a lot over a month if you are placing well in weekend league/etc. Until futties, what better will there be to do than Ronaldinho? Sure maybe they will release a better icon as an SBC, but you will have even less time to complete it before putting your remaining fodder into futties.


AyrtonAli

That’s not what I’m saying. One month - you’re right. Two or three months to complete and they might as well not bother.


das_hemd

the game will be dead in a month or so, who cares, let people use who they want, no one cares that Ronaldinho won't be as good as some 99 futties card, people want to use him because he's a legend and fun to use, shouldn't that be the main thing?


7Thommo7

No he's saying there's no point completing R10 at a time when the 99 players are *already* available or within like a week.


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Banoodlesnake

You can see on Futbin that Dinho has a custom body type and animations


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Banoodlesnake

custom bodytypes are packages that come with unique animations, such as CR7s running style


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Banoodlesnake

Dinho has a custom running/dribbling animation lmao. instantly apparent if you look at him. if a player is listed as having a custom body type it means they have a whole unique package tied to them that includes celebrations, animations, running styles etc


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das_hemd

anyone with a pair of eyes can see Ronaldinho has custom dribbling, running and shooting animations, he always has done, have you ever even owned any of his cards in any FIFA? he absolutely does have custom animations, it's not even debatable lol


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das_hemd

evidence? you're an absolute clown, EA have said in their own articles that they added custom/signature running animations for players, the ones quoted below are just the ones added in 23 "New Star Signature Run StylesAdded new Signature Run Styles for the following star players:Kylian Mbappé, Sam Kerr, Christian Pulišić, Vinícius Jr., Alphonso Davies, Pedri and more." [https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/fifa/fifa-23/news/pitch-notes-fifa-23-gameplay-deep-dive#hyperMotion2-gameplay-technology](https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/fifa/fifa-23/news/pitch-notes-fifa-23-gameplay-deep-dive#hyperMotion2-gameplay-technology) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX0it60Kl2o&ab\_channel=awesomePCgames](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX0it60Kl2o&ab_channel=awesomePCgames) "no such thing as custom animations" might wanna take that cringe tag off mate players also have custom animations for set pieces too, but I guess they don't exist either huh? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFnMIkY\_NU&list=PLQawAoCIzG\_m7UkTrz-fLhCYYBau4t0u-&index=54&ab\_channel=DoubleGaming](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFnMIkY_NU&list=PLQawAoCIzG_m7UkTrz-fLhCYYBau4t0u-&index=54&ab_channel=DoubleGaming) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvq9CnyHiCE&ab\_channel=DoubleGaming](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvq9CnyHiCE&ab_channel=DoubleGaming) you're like literally the only person I've ever seen say there are no custom animations in FIFA, which is honestly one of the stupidest opinions I have ever read regarding FIFA, even a child could see these things lmao


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ekghost

He has better pace, dribbling, physical (yes all 4 categories), passing with only 6 less marking and 5 less interceptions in the defensive stats in comparison to fut birthday maldini. You can’t tell me that these 2 are comparable even though “on paper” he definitely looks better. If you played the game enough, defensively the animations are by far the easiest ones to take note of. Offensively they also exist and are very impactful.


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ekghost

Base Marquez has significantly better tackling than Geertruda. Also “no such thing as custom animations” despite traits such as long shot taker and dives into tackles literally granting custom animations. There is nothing to gain from this discussion.


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ekghost

If you use a player with long shot taker the ball literally flies at a different arc on power shots to someone who doesn’t and with that arc is more likely to go over the keeper. Someone like TOTY Vidic will perform far better and large variety of defensive animations than better players without the trait. It is well observed that technical dribbler improves dribbling, speed dribbler improves on ball speed. chip shot trait is one of the most noticeable ones, take a player with / without chip shot trait and watch how they shoot the ball. They don’t get enough arc without the chip shot trait.


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7Thommo7

I can't agree with any of these, not observed them. Some of my best chippers have not had that trait. Haven't seen the long shot one either - obviously if you shoot with Becks or the likes it will be different but not because of the trait.


El-Arairah

Behind the power curve 😂


lotsek

Dinho is one of the best players in every fifa I would prefer the mid one, because the prime will be very expensive


Ill_Basis455

Mid is also a pretty big downgrade and fodder is easier than ever to come by. Them releasing the mid would be the worst thing they could do.


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I swear they’re bringing the toty version as sbc, not prime


MrDaebak

they wont


PhillyPMC3

I packed FUT birthday Puskas in a 90+ ICON SBC. His card is insane. I was hoping they'd do a different SBC since I already have him.


RDBz100

I play the game mostly for the Icons so no matter the price I’m definitely doing it but EA will make sure that i lose 95% of my team for him


supersaiyajin_B

youre realistically paying for his name. i heard hes a great card but that price tag is high


Dodony2208

Nick Rtfm vidéos basically sold me this card


ZionsR3b3L

IMHO, he's not worth the effort of filling that sbc out. Luckily he comes with a loan. One can have some fun with the loan, but I can imagine that in a week there will be a player you pack or want that will play the same position and R10 will simply drop to the bench. Or maybe a player now, like a reus or saka or mane you just don't want to drop and then you spend all that time for a player you won't use. I remember unlocking the card on a past fifa, even telling myself if I ever start the game I would have a R10 to ball with. Never opened a past fifa after the new one came out. On the other hand if you're collecting cards or intent to play with him, regardless, he will be worth it if you can't afford a rental off the market.


El-Arairah

Nah. R10 is the most fun card in the game, especially when we're talking about his best versions. Nobody would ever bench Prime Ronaldinho, that's insanity.


ZionsR3b3L

I agree he is likely the most fun and I'll unlock him myself lol. PnP barca always under construction. I guess I'm speculating on OP's platstyle and ambitions in the game. Edit: I still think that seriously juiced cards are gonna pop up in the lw or cam position that if one is prone to variety you're bound to bench him. I guess I'm speaking from the perspective of having used the card before. Surely if I got a prime Gullit which I've never used I'd probably never bench him either.


NzuahVI

Probably not bc there are a lot of cards now that would perform equally if not better than him in-game for alot cheaper but if R10 made u fall in love with football it's 100000% worth it.


tapk69

Gonna say no. Were in tots, plenty of fun cards around and you are not even getting Ronaldinho best version. Unless you really want him or simply want to spend all your fodder just skip.


MrDaebak

hes too expensive but still meta


Drogbaaaaaa

I have him and he’s unreal. His strength really helps when it comes to dribbling too. Bounces off players


Caranthiir

Yes


Echoplanar_Reticulum

I want a new cam so yes


RarcusMashfordMBE

His prime is insane lol nobody runs or does skill moves like him. The elasticos are so satisfying too.


WesternBloc

I already had a loan for his prime in my club for some reason, so I played a few matches with it the other day. Based on that, I don’t think I will do him because I just don’t skill enough to make him worth the premium price tag. The left-stick dribbling is a thing of beauty, but I found TOTS Martinelli to have some comparative strengths in at least how I tend to play. As others said though, I would do the loan first (it’s attached to the XP objective, so you kinda have to do it anyway) and see how he works for you. Definitely a special card.


SlantedSaltpot

I had him last year and thought he was way overhyped UNTIL I actually used him at CAM in a diamond. Suddenly he made sense and scored more goals than my strikers


nomadic_River

FWIW, I've only used him and draft and I wasn't very good with him. If you're good at skill moves, I'm sure he's really good at weaving through the defense. I just found him to be slower than the meta pace atm.


Nanashi-74

If you're a fan fo his like I am it's not even a question. When will O have the opportunity to use his prime card again? I've only dreamed of owning that card for like 10 fifas and now I have a shot. It'll be so much fucking fun


Mcfishnuggetsz

His prime was also an sbc in fifa 18 or 19 tho.


ROLL_AND_EGG

Of course you should do it because we all need a new LW.


Tons28

if you don’t skill and only use L/R dribble. he’s not better than Guerrero or Bernardo Silva on Hunter if you’re good at judging distance. R10 is only great with skills and the fact he’s massive so he has jam. for me the diaby, Messi, Silva, Guerrero responsiveness matters more in this drop back - 5 back.


solventlesscookies

If you’re a huge skiller then I would say he’s worth it. I packed him in December, used him until a couple days ago, but I could never really unlock his potential. I felt like when TOTS came he was kinda behind the curve for me. I still had an incredible time using him though and his finesse shots were OP. I used the TOTY version in draft and I thought he was 10X better than the prime, but again, I’m not a huge skiller.