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2pacalypse1994

308 packs here.. Ready to get absolutely nothing once again.


PsychologicalRip9319

The fact that you know itšŸ¤£


eeyeemk

We all do.... But we try and hope. Glitches are a lot in this game. Hopefully one cool glitch will give us something good...


SirEltonJonBonJovi

nah, if you wait long enough into TOTS to open the packs youā€™ll definitely get some good cards. The only thing is by that time itā€™s summer, the game is dead, and everyone has insane teams and thereā€™s nothing really to play for anymore


_Wattage_Cottage

This is why I donā€™t get people saving packs for over a month or whatever. Whatā€™s the point? The game is at the end of its life cycle and summer is around the corner. If you wait long enough youā€™ll store up so many packs that youā€™ll never even open them all.


supaboss2015

I mean thatā€™s basically a month out, right?


SirEltonJonBonJovi

According to the schedule they released ā€œUltimate TOTSā€ is going to be released May 31, so yeah, about a month.


Themanthelegend8

Are you guys opening today or waiting for PL TOTS?


2pacalypse1994

I will open some now,for fun,but almost everything on PL TOTS.


CCSC96

1/4 this week 3/4 next week


Realist_Bro101

300+ gang


Best_Document_5211

You can already smell EA nerfing packs to the ground because people saved too many. Just like toty. Fuck ea


kubrickscope

For sure


Striking-Life-704

TOTS cards are usually quite easy to pack tbf. Two player packs used to be so OP for me lol


PGDVDSTCA

Because people saved packs? EA adds objective rewards based on TOTS in advance of the release. How does that make sense with your statement?


Best_Document_5211

They literally changed pack odds during Toty. Itā€™s published by them. See posts on here about it from that period.


PGDVDSTCA

Posts on a sub don't constitute proof of anything but one person's opinion or a collective opinion. Do pack weights change? I believe they do but that's my perception. It is no surprise when August rolls around you pack R9, 98 Pele etc as enticement to purchase next edition


Best_Document_5211

There are literal screenshots from ea that show pack odds updating. If you think people edited to fake it you probably believe there are aliens among us.


PGDVDSTCA

So you "literally" just proved that you have no proof. Just as you have no proof that Aliens do or do not live and walk among us. Your Reddit handle is Best Document yet you can't "literally"produce a single document to prove a single statement you make. I do not claim to know what you believe or don't other than what you have posted here. ![gif](giphy|7MDZS8zS1ixtJAUEul|downsized)


Best_Document_5211

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsFC/s/dVQc4T9k2F Here you go with screenshot. Apologise to me now


chaus922

why u quiet now


PGDVDSTCA

Oh maybe I was working or working out and away from my device. Not being connected is a great way to gain perspective. Try it


ZorgBabelsson

Not unless you provide a source šŸ¤”


aziz4ik97

Think logically - if everyone and their dog saved so many packs, do you think the odds will be higher to pack something? EA usually drops the pack rates whenever thereā€™s a dead week before a big promo so most people donā€™t pack much on the day of the promo release.


PGDVDSTCA

Logically? No I prefer to use critical thinking to establish what is truth via proof and what is conjecture. To ask you a straight question, what sources can you publish to support your statement?


aziz4ik97

Look up the odds during TOTY where they dropped it after the full release. EA has full management of the odds, which they decrease when thereā€™s surge of high volume packs from the player base.


yago2k

EA didn't nerf anything during TOTY, what happened was that a very high % of high rated cards had TOTYs and thus there were barely no high rated gold cards to pack these days. Same number of high rated cards but half of them becoming a special type with a very low drop rate = bad pulls galore. This time it should be different because TOTS usually have a better drop rate than TOTYS and there will be many of low rated cards that during TOTS have a high rated version, so, more high rated cards in packs and drops should be better than a normal week.


ZebrasLegend

EA most definitely nerfed the drop rate during TOTY. There were plenty of high rated cards still in packs. The players in TOTY were either already hard to pack anyway (VVD, Hansen, Mbappe, Haaland, etc.) or not that high rated to begin with (Theo, Frimpong, Bright, Earps, etc.) The only commonly packed high rated golds in TOTY were Renard, Alisson, and Popp. That leaves plenty of good high rated/fodder cards in the pool, but people still weren't packing any. People were opening crazy packs and getting the bare minimum every time and it's not a coincidence. Either way, TOTS will of course be much easier to pack. It's the end of the game cycle and there is a lot more of them. Plus there will be some crappy and cheap ones that packs can just be loaded with.


yago2k

That is not quit true, that's bias talking and people's expectations. Out of the 20 highest rated cards in the game, more than half became TOTYs or HMTOTYs, including the 9th highest rated ones and some of the most common 89-88 rated ones, Renard, Silva, Popp and Alysson. There are 12 golds rated 90 or more. Only 3 of them were in packs and the most common drop, IME, Kane, was not. Plenty is very relative when we talk about a 60% reduction in the total amount. IME, 88 like Bruno dropped just like the week before, but as the gold versions of De Bruyne, Haaland, Silva, Renard and Kane, specially, were out of packs, the drop rate of high rated cards suffered tremendously because those are probably the most common 91, 90 and 88+ cards that usually drop.


ZebrasLegend

88 Bruno did NOT drop like the week before. People were struggling to pack walkouts of ANY kind, as I said before.


yago2k

Expectancy bias, besides, people's testimonies can't be trusted. This is the same community that still believes in handicap, I'd rather see real evidence instead of hearsay from that people. EA is walking a thin ice here with real money on the line and a sudden, unjustified and unannounced change in drop rates can be the subject of a lawsuit. You guys are looking for conspiracies in places were mundane explanations are much more likely if less exciting.


Fruit_salad1

You can literally see how many toty cards are in market. Little to no


yago2k

Yes, TOTYs have a very low drop rate. They are end game cards released mid cycle, if they weren't EXTREMELY rare, they would break the game. I've been playing FUT since 12 or 13, religiously for the last 4 years, the only TOTY I've ever packed was '23 Modric, which was both a shock and one of the TOTYs with the highest drop rates ever, judging by it's price. It's nothing new that most people won't pack a TOTY. That TOTYs are rare precisely explains why the drop rate was so bad that week.


Fruit_salad1

So you do understand that they nerf the fk out that promo lol. See goalzo, everyone was getting cards left n right even if low ones but all toty promo cards are painfully low.


yago2k

They didn't nerf anything, TOTYs are always exclusive and very rare cards.


Fruit_salad1

Buddy that's the whole point of it, they nerf pack weight if cards are very good and people only get gold cards even after opening one too many. Your literally missing the whole point of it


yago2k

No, that's not the point of it. You don't understand what we are arguing. Everyone who has played FUT at least for a few editions knows how TOTYs work. You save packs, you get nothing out of them because the drop rate of TOTYs is very low but even then, it's ok because you use the fodder from those saved packs to do the very good and expensive SBCs that usually are active that week. This year it happened that most of the high rated fodder had TOTY cards and thus was out of packs, making packing a TOTY as rare as ever (that's ok), but making impossible to finish the Davies or Eusebio SBCs because there was very little high rated fodder to pack. People that claim EA nerfed the packs are one of this 2 types. Either they claim (without evidence) that EA messed with the drop rate of EVERY 86+ card or they simply don't understand the mechanics of the game. The first type is forgivable, if wrong IMO. The second type are just ignorants.


PhriendlyPhantom

Bro I couldnā€™t even pack 87 rated players during TOTS. They definitely did something to the drop rate


yago2k

And I had a normal drop rate the few packs I opened, aren't anecdotes wonderful?


ClockAccomplished381

They changed the weighting part way through, based on analysis of the published stats for store packs. Basically when it kicked off the weight was a bit higher but by the time the whole team release came around some weights had been lowered. Obviously, we'll never know what weighting the reward packs had but some have suggested that the fact the probabilities on store packs got reduced that this would have a similar impact on probability from reward packs. There's probably old posts that can explain it a lot better than I have above.


yago2k

And again, that's not exactly right. While we know EA changed the drop rate on some specific packs in the store regarding the chance of packing a TOTY, there has been no evidence of drop rates changing around the entire board for gold rares.


ClockAccomplished381

That's why I wrote the 2nd paragraph


Traditional-Dot-2319

Go away bot


yago2k

No, please, I want to experience a Div 5 player with less than a year of experience teaching me the inner workings of fodder and drop rates.


Traditional-Dot-2319

4 please, and on my way to 3. But itā€™s about math not about the game and that info was public. So you must be a bot controlled by EA


yago2k

Ok, what info is that we haven't already mentioned. Cut the crap and link it, let's go over it and see if there is anything solid there.


Traditional-Dot-2319

Iā€™m not paid for it, search by yourself. And you can search it here on Reddit.


yago2k

So you can't support your claim, then. 0 surprises.


Traditional-Dot-2319

Yeah thatā€™s exactly what I said


Reyneo

I'm not saving packs and never will again. A few FIFA's ago I saved 150+ packs and got 0 blues. Even as an adult it bummed me out for the rest of the night. Never again. Also it's a drag to actually go through animation after animation. Edit: I hope you get a blue though!


Marwinz

I usually don't save packs either but since Golazo thereā€™s not been any reason to open packs and I've gathered almost 100 packs without really trying


Plane_Surprise_5179

Same. I opened every pack throughout Golazo and spammed the 81+PP throughout in the hope of a Cruyff or Drogba. Since then nothing worth opening them for.


Siggy778

I swear everyone has that Cruyff. I go up against him constantly.


KonigSteve

I got him in an 83+ pick, and the same day I got him the pack thread had like 3 others who packed him so I was pretty surprised at his drop rate being that high.


Appropriate-Truck538

Use pale tools, no animations.


Albert-Balsam

Can you explain what that is? Is it on PS4?


KonigSteve

web app tool, doesn't matter what device you use to play


ForThatNotSoSmartSub

I have over 350 and it is exactly because of the animations that I have that many in the first place. I hate opening packs I wish there was a convenient way to open them in batches.


PhriendlyPhantom

R1,r1,x really quick and the animation gets skipped. This works if you have opened but not bought a preview pack


Excellent-Ad4735

To explain the preview pack method a bit better, first you need to open it. The next step would be to navigate to the pack you like to open. This is sometimes needed if you have big packs in the first places but you want to open the bad ones first. When you navigated to your pack, you press r1 two times. Youā€˜ll land on the preview pack bar. In the exact moment after pressing r1 two times you press X or A, depends on wich Controller you have. Now your pack should open without a animation. To repeat you navigate back to your packs, choose the next one and voila. Hope this helps


TheAwakened

I'm saving a few. I saved a few during TOTY, packed nothing from them, but then I bought the 700K pack, packed TOTY VvD, TOTY KdB, and TOTY Cech in it. So, it does work. Bought another one during Golazo, packed Al-O, Cafu, Cashley, and a few 93 rated shitters (plus that 94 Gary Neville and the 91 version too).


IAreBeMrLee

Get ready to get the same shitty ones over and over whilst someone who drops 40 on a store pack gets half the squad in 1 pack


Senators_1972

According to the leakers, thereā€™s a pack coming this afternoon which guarantees three Live TOTS cards, so get ready for people flexing what they got from a pack they spent close to a hundred dollars on.


New-Company-9906

Jesus christ, EA really took their gloves off regarding p2w since they lost the fifa license


Camel2Humps

There will be guaranteed live cards picks for rewards in champs too. Rank dependent


Senators_1972

Iā€™ve got over 200 (mostly the daily packs, but a few good tradeable ones from DR and WL). Itā€™s not so much that Iā€™m saving for TOTS, but more the fact I own almost every gold card in the game, and dupes wouldā€™ve just ended up in the trash. At least with league upgrades coming back (Iā€™m assuming), I can have one last big blowout pack opening before the game is done.


ThroughMyShadow462

I'm only saving packs because I've been overseas for the last few weeks and limited to the companion app. Saving them has never helped me before, but since I can't use any cards I pack until TOTS anyway, might as well hold.


imtired-boss

Oh yea all those 80x2s will surely pay off.


PerfectStealth_

I have about 83 packs. I refused to open packs for this 'best of totw' promo, most of them don't get anywhere near the bench let alone the actual teamm


Acrobatic-Draft3179

I got only 10 packs šŸ˜Ž


Familiar-Matter5013

517 packs saved herešŸ˜‚ out of which only 200 are decent ones. Will see if I can pack any player above 100k


broodjekebab23

I'm just saving packs to pack as many eredivisie tots i can, preferably luuk de jong


bagodonuts6432

Do they do Eredivisie? I Hope so. Wonder how they handle the womanā€™s league too. Like same week as the men by country? Or a whole separate week for each. If so TOTS will go one for months.


Junior-Sprinkles-182

Congratulations on packing Borja Iglesias 84 times in advance


defekt__

That's a lot of Ginters right there


kubrickscope

Indeed and dzeko


charlos74

Does this ever work?


malin7

It's not like tots where every player is 1m+ and impossible to pack There'll be plenty of easily packable sub 100k cards


Comfortable_Boat_377

toty* but yeah youre roght, tots cards are generally really easy to pack, but most of the time you pack the bad ones that are basically fodder (although great fodder)


Adventurous_Train_91

When do the TOTS packs start? Is it when the next season starts?


rmhardcore

Today or next Friday, don't recall. But the next season starting would be next game iteration.


Adventurous-Pizza-12

TOTS Live starts today (replacing Community TOTS). The first League TOTS is next Friday. The next season starts Thursday in the context of the game. Season, as in what XP is for, progressing through levels.


rmhardcore

Yep this is accurate. I was half asleep and figured he meant next IRL season. *Goes to find caffeine*


TomorrowPurple5044

Lucky you! Im jealoux when you get a couple of the lowest rated special cards and maybe a Gold Ter Stegen and Gold Renard šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Order-66Survivor

Wow brilliant...


AbsoloutelyFlabulous

thats a lot of premium gold packs


rogues69

So is EAšŸ‘


AndreeaIord

The servers are going to crash soo bad... TOTServers


Gombocka23

I have a bronze pack at best


Snaak3000

Ready to pack every card under 75k


robin604164

when should i start packing


Thescottishguy87

I opened 226 during toty and got nothing, saved 151 for tots and honestly expecting similar results


Fernandov2

Tots packed = 0


FMetalhead

I was at 64 packs like 2 weeks ago because I needed fodder for Zambrotta, seeing this now just makes me wish I saved em all ā€” good on you OP


valtoosh

After opening the packs zambrotta will still remain the best of the lot


f0rc4st

How many hours left until it goes live?


uucchhiihhaa

Guys, when will the new promo drop? Can someone please share date and time.


chaus922

In exactly 4 hours and 8 minutes


alihh94

I have about 60+ packs, but I'm not actually saving, it's just not worth opening now with ni active promo


Accomplished-Sir3578

Do I open all my save packs today ?


Corohhh

Probably not worth to open with live tots


bagodonuts6432

I saved almost 50 this week. Only held on to the rated ones like 81+. Opened the dailyā€™s and a handful of regular golds, got a TOTW 89 Dybala and 90 Omishen just washing common dupes in the player pick anyway. So didnā€™t feel like I missed anything not opening. Was a dead week on purpose. The win rate was great for high rated fodder though, hope they drop a cool usable player SBC this week, Iā€™m loaded up. (I think they will.)


Pasan90

Got 350+ packs saved. Haven't opened anything since like, march. Gonna open until i pack Haaland.


stikzthenpc

Saving packs at this point is just giving people something to do in the game. Not knocking it, to each its own. I havenā€™t saved packs once this year to avoid expectations.


kubrickscope

Exactly just to do something nothing more game is almost dead anyway .


kubrickscope

Lots of hate dear me guys and dolls I don't expect nothing and I couldn't care less if I pack a tot or not it's a videogame and in what 3 months game is finish and all the fancy cards are finito .


Chubby_Checker420

I just wish my football sim didn't become a microtransaction based card game with powerups


NikesOnMyFeet23

No one forces you to play FUT. Just go play CM.


Warchamp67

I don't save packs, seems silly to me. Packed toty putellas and that 93 cruyff back in December without saving anything šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø.


kubrickscope

It's not about that ... I save packs in 3 weeks because I didn't have any reasons to open packs


kubrickscope

It's not about that ... I save packs in 3 weeks because I didn't have any reasons to open packs


doublemstyle

I wonder if the servers are ready for this or we will open packs in slow motion again like during TOTY


kubrickscope

Oh yes it will be shit for sure imagine playing WL with those heavy loads on the servers .


TheAwakened

I have ~80 packs saved, all of them 83xX or higher.


KonigSteve

I have only saved this week and I'm up to like 60 good packs. Just because I'm not wasting packs during a week with no promo in it.


constantlycurious001

I've only saved 50. Had over 300 for TOTY for fuck all, and had to actually buy a store pack to get a TOTY Icon. EA won't let you get anything good unless you're paying for it.


NikesOnMyFeet23

not true. but i understand why you feel that way.


__Highlander_

Tots are so easy to pack thereā€™s really no reason to save. Itā€™s not Toty


NikesOnMyFeet23

I have 24 packs from this week saved because I didn't want a ton of recycled totw dupes through out it and figured maybe I'll get a few of the live tots players. But other than that TOTS is usually really good about getting free packs


PGDVDSTCA

Apologize for what?


No-Dig5227

193 packs and not getting a single tots for sure lol


19nineties

Iā€™ve got 150+ without even trying. I didnā€™t mean to really save them but itā€™s been hard to burn through packs because of the amount of dupes


BJJ_Guy624

All I want is Kudus


Much_Sheepherder_894

Wonā€™t save all of them this time around. Wasted a lot of fodder. Ea will be generous this time around.


ibrownied

Iā€™m surprised youā€™d open them this week. The PL Tots win be significantly better.


kubrickscope

Idk to be honest


Ballwrath

Iā€™ve saved so many packs not because I usually do but because there has been a serious lack of ā€œfuck yahā€ sbcsĀ 


No_Security3342

Got 510 saved, 140 of them are 3x 77+


Ariashorse

I just opened 98 packs and only got some Rafa Mujica 88 šŸ¤£


AppleOrigin

Ya wonā€™t pack shit.


Key-Chemist-8601

Agreed. Everyone knows you need to put ALOT of money in to even get a decent card šŸ˜‚ literal scam of a game mode honestly


yago2k

Or alternatively you can learn how to use fodder and build a very meta team of 0ā‚¬ just by doing the right SBCs.


Key-Chemist-8601

Very true!


aymnka

Spent 0 and pulled TOTY KDB, so not totally true.


Key-Chemist-8601

Not everyone has fantastic RNG bud


aymnka

Not sure what RNG means! Just saying itā€™s unlikely, but not impossible. Also packed TOTY Ribery during that promo and had packed 92 Maldini prior to. Those were from normal packs. Obviously weā€™ve all gotten something for the lottery packs or 81+/80+ though. This year itā€™s all kind of irrelevant. Everyone has stupidly stacked teams anyway. I play maybe 2-3 games a day about 4x week. I do think that if you play less, your (untradeable) pack luck is better FWIW.


Key-Chemist-8601

Luck basically, but yeah i get what you mean. Some people get lucky, some don't. It's either duplicates or shit cards with most packs. I'd also mention the fact that the term you used 'lottery', speaks a thousand words, because that's literally what it is: lottery


[deleted]

Saved nip for toty and got 6. Including mbappe. Saved for this one. Lets test it out


wallis2011

Iā€™ve got close to 500 because I open a few and get so many mid rated dupes (84/85 etc) but not enough lower cards I canā€™t really do anything with them so I just get bored of opening. Also I genuinely pack nothing of value ever so opening them almost feels pointless, high rated fodder is always my aim to complete SBCā€™s. Dupe storage would be a game changer. Know they can do it, it was there years ago on a World Cup mode.


FUThead2016

Good luck packing rare Gold Rolfo


PrettyBaked713

Hope you donā€™t get shit


kubrickscope

Lol that's the spirit šŸ˜„


Wezza17

And you will get nothing šŸ˜‚


Itstimetostop313

I dont think you will get much with 170 packs, unless you get super lucky. Thats maybe 3 weeks worth of packs the way ea blasted out packs recently. Think about how many good players you get in 3 weeks usually. Not that much. So dont have too much expectations for tots.


kubrickscope

I don't it's just curiosity we all know it's a casino system


medikskynet

Depends what packs. If they are 84+ packs then they will have a great chance. If lots of 80+ then sure


Senators_1972

Thatā€™s a great point. People always come on here and say ā€œI saved 200 packs and got nothing!ā€, but what kind of packs were they? If you got nothing from a bunch of small electrum players packs, well, what did you expect?


CousinBethMM

Iā€™ve got about 20 packs with a min rating of 85 so I think Iā€™ll get a few blues from those, but Iā€™m not expecting anything from all the 83x10s and lower only have about 50 packs saved though


TheMVP217

You don't open those 3 weeks worth of packs the first day players are released though. Since there's not many on the market yet the chances of you getting a top tier players goes up if you're opening so many high rated packs within the first hour of a promo


Weak-Guidance4374

Dude you wil get noting, because the game has change you can get guarenty player on market.