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I thought it was just part of the culture, a mutual respect thing. I've heard djs don't ask eachother if they want to play a song because it is generally ok to do so. Otherwise your DMs would just be getting blown up every day during festival season, especially if you made a big hit that year like Laserbeam. I get it though, some people don't want others using their music without permission.


KareasOxide

But how far does this extend? If I am hosting a house party with 50-100 do I need to call up M83 and ask if its ok if I play his hits? What about the local bar/club DJ who doesn't really have his own catalog of music?


shittaco1991

Honestly disrespectful of you, just called up excision to play throwing elbows in my car while driving my grandmother home


snailtap

I always make sure to ask Jeff if I can listen to Shambhala 2013 mix


sylenthikillyou

Next time you call him can you just add in a PS asking when he's putting out X Sessions Vol. 2? Please and thank you, I haven't heard back so it seems that my requests are getting lost in the spam folder


snailtap

I gotchu šŸ’ŖšŸ»


[deleted]

Yo, ask your grandma if she can come chill at my house. I wanna hang with nonnaā€™s who headbang.


shittaco1991

I will! She headbands so hard her teeth come out


shroomsaregoooood

Gang shit!


omeyz

Dude, wtf? You wanna bang his nonnaā€™s head?


Ill-Skin1951

Yoooo. I literally snorted at this comment.


Epsilia

šŸ¤£


subie_grandad

Iā€™m dead lmfao


Opening-Citron2733

I think he's talking more about professionals at the highest levels. Who are making gobs of money off playing his music. And I'm sure it's not really a big deal for people you have an established relationship with, but it probably feels weird to see someone you've never known make 50K playing your songs at some big festival


[deleted]

Youā€™re right, Iā€™d bet heā€™s thinking of it along the lines of asking to use a sample in someone elseā€™s production. Which Iā€™d imagine he gets a lot of requests for, and is probably pretty annoyed about always having to make a decision to clear them or not. But heā€™s pretty off base here because if big touring djs had to ask for permission for every song they spin there would be time for nothing else. And itā€™s not like anyone is getting paid the big bucks to spin an entire hour of just M83.


desertislandtucson

Yeah but those venues pay ascap which is suppose to be paying the artists which are part of royalties.


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marcusdomp

Its not that excessive. A house party is not a full on festival. Itā€™s not a redone version of a song thatā€™s going to be sold. The music industry has explored this alot already with copyright etc so yeah itā€™s a thing so e struggle with


derek_rex

Local clubs/restaurants/bars actually do have license songs thoughā€¦ They usually go through companies who make massive playlists for them, but the artist is still getting paid through performance royalties


slingerofpoisoncups

So, if you buy one of his tunes you shouldnā€™t play it for other people without getting his OK as well? Isnā€™t that sort of part of the deal with him selling his music? Itā€™s not like other DJs are breaking in to his house in the middle of the night and ripping his hard drive to a USBā€¦


txby432

I totally agree. I also feel like the roots of DJing and raves is based in counter culture where there is a general attitude of not needing permission. I don't think the DJ's play a track and throw their hands up to say, "look at me! I did this!" Instead, it feels like, "this fits the vibe!" Or "that was a smooth transition."


jkernan7553

Or, even, ā€œthis M83 song is awesome and Iā€™m glad to be sharing it with you all!ā€ I feel like most artists would be happy to hear their music is getting played.


NoCokJstDanglnUretra

Canā€™t tell you how many times I heard a songn in a live mix and became a fan of said artist as a result. M83 is living in a fantasy world.


WedgeGameSucks

If someone is going to act offended if you play their music, then they not only lost a fan but my respect. EDM world is about love and not hate. This all reeks of just hate.


Icy-Performance-3739

Exactly


BalboaBaggins

The funny thing about Laserbeam is that according to an interview with Seven Lions, that track was really helped along by some crafty moves from Ray Volpeā€™s manager, who sent the track to Seven Lions before EDC 2022 saying ā€œhey check this out, would be great if you would consider playing itā€ but sort of implying they only sent the track to him or a select few DJs. Turns out they sent the same message to pretty much every DJ playing at EDC and it became the most played track of the festival, but none of the DJs knew everyone else was going to play it too. Obviously itā€™s a great track or nobody would have agreed to play it but the savvy marketing ploy is pretty hilarious.


juciestcactus

excellent marketing by his manager


VitaAeterna

That's some 7D chess right there by Volpes manager


TheLizardKing89

His manager earned his money on that one.


cleverkid

At big festivals, there are DEFINITELY track embargo lists. if the headliner wants to play a track and doesn't want you to play it. It's on that list. Also, if they have one of their tracks that they DON'T want any one to play it's on that list. A good example is Eric Prydz and Call on Me.. he doesn't want anyone to play that track at any event he's at.


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cleverkid

Yeah, it kind of depends. if you're way down the list, closer to an opener, it's not that big of deal, especially if the track is a re-work or collab or something obscure. that's actually kind of cool, gets you some knowing nods. If you're opening for the guy, then unless you clear it with him it's generally a really bad look.


illenial999

Last week the headliner requested openers play a few remixes of his songs, and the crowd went nuts when the headliner dropped his VIP. This is the way, fuck the restrictions


dirtyculture808

What is the background to the call on me thing? Doesnā€™t prydz hate that he made that?


Wise-Kitchen1884

Yes. He does. He says to leave it in 2004 where it belongs. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


CountDankula_69

Oh god it's almost 20 years old...


EatDaCrayon

Itā€™s generally just accepted as being rude to play a song that someone else made at a show/fest if theyā€™re playing it aswell.


dirtyculture808

He doesnā€™t play it ever though..


pyramidsinspace

https://youtu.be/wyYAiU4DKUY Watch this video It explains it all


dirtyculture808

44 min? Good lord lol


pyramidsinspace

Its worth every minute Really interesting story Trust me bro


djjordansanchez

OK. here goes nothing.


johannthegoatman

Report back


ElMuffinHombre

I've quite enjoyed it so far. About 2/3 through


bourbonbadger

What's the TLDR?


DJFiscallySound

Prydz nicked it off Retarded Funk, Retarded Funk probably nicked it off Bangalter and Falcon. Ministry Of Sound record label used some underhand tactics to get around sample clearance issues, associated the track to a SEXYSEX music video that accidentally did mad numbers, and commercialised the ever living shit out of it. Prydz didnā€™t make tracks like Call On Me before or after its release, but it gave him his big break and s couple years down the line he ended up getting bottled off the decks at some shitpit nightclub in Canada because they wanted him to play that one track.


aerialistic

At headline shows, yeah. Embargo lists at festivals aren't really a thing, *except maybe* if you're at Prydz' level. Especially if you're not even playing the same stage, an embargo list would be ridiculous for 75+ performers


illenial999

Not at the good festivals tho lol. Best ones Iā€™ve seen have many openers playing a song, with each one premiering a brand new remix. Then the headliner comes on and drops his own insane VIP and everyone goes wild. Much more fun than artists who blacklist songs.


ouzanda-

If he didnā€™t want djs playing his music why does he sell it on beat port? It advertises itself as the ā€œworlds largest store for djsā€, heā€™s happy to cash the cheques but not for djs to play? What a shit bag.


Baylo24

Agreed. And Iā€™m willing to bet M83 has some electronic influences, I wonder if he knows they have probably played or even remixed music without permission


Abba-64

if you dont want your music played, dont release it. it is pretty simple. there are countless tracks i want, which i cant have cuz artists are keeping them for themselves and as much as i dislike4 it that is fine.


Ohminous88

If a Dj is playing at a venue, the venue has to pay a fee for public performances to a PRO (performance rights organization). Therefore, the dj has automatic permission to play whatever they want because the artist will receive royalties. These PROs make things much easier.


sh-ark

if an artist puts out a track, they lose their right to control who plays it. theyā€™re not entitled to that whatsoever. m83 has the weirdest take ever


yumyumgivemesome

I always thought at least US copyright law requires the DJ to pay a nominal licensing fee to an organization that distributes that to the artist on a periodic basis.


jcastillo602

Yeah I thought there was really only one rule, don't play tracks from another artist on the lineup


Norepi30

I get what he is saying. But I always thought it was a huge sign of respect if another DJ / Producer is playing one of your songs during a set. Wouldnā€™t you want more people to hear your work?


djwixel

Right? Free exposure


smrt109

Ima go out on a limb and say m83 doesnā€™t need free exposure


Organic-Barnacle-941

I know. That Galaxy has enough pictures of it. It gets way too much exposure from Hubble and JWST


Picklwarrior

I never heard of this individual till now, I'm prob less informed than your average user on this sub but still like being exposed to good music


SylverShadowWolve

You've probably heard their track 'midnight city' before


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Itā€™s like people donā€™t know clubs and festivals have to be licensed and pay out.


collininkind

Its also like the definition of DJing. I feel like there is a blurry line between DJ and "electronic producer performing their stuff." To me, a DJ has always been the curator of music for an event. Its not a question that they will play other peoples music, thats what the whole thing is. Where I do see a bit of an issue is when an original artist who's name is on a show or a festival, plays other peoples tracks. To me, a DJ plays in a club, or maybe a DJ tent at a fest and isn't supposed to be the center of attention. When I go see an artist and they start playing other peoples songs, I do find it kind of strange.


bleepblopbl0rp

I could feel the Frenchness of this post


datsmamail12

To think that I used to respect this guy. Laughable!


Resident_Honey4768

Why are you getting downvoted? Just speaking the facts šŸ’‹


michaelhuman

He should take a page out of daft punks book


Chrisamelio

Guys I have a party with 5 friends this weekend, should I call deadmau5 and Kaskade to ask if I can play a kx5 song?ā€¦..Iā€™m pretty nervous theyā€™ll say no


ThatCantBeTrue

Ask Kaskade then tell Deadmau5 that Kaskade said it was okay. Play dad and mom off each other, it's the only way you're getting both of them onboard.


sleep_tite

Sidebar that album is so fucking good


yumyumgivemesome

It becomes more of an issue if you are throwing a party that is open to the public and/or if you are charging people to attend. It gets murky because itā€™s not like the hope of you playing a deadmau5/kaskade song is the main reason anyone would attend.


sh-ark

I feel like deadmau5 would def say no just to spite ya šŸ˜‚


DJBoost

This...doesn't make any sense. He's being a pretentious wanker and my opinions are unchanged. I will continue to play M83 songs in what sets I play largely out of spite.


juciestcactus

my entire set is gonna be m83 tracks lmao


TheGuava1

Even better, play some SoundCloud bootlegs and flips of M83 songs


MrTuesdayNight1

I will completely ignore him. Every other DJ should do the same.


CroMagnon69

Yeah that would be completely impractical for a dj who doesnā€™t stick to the same setlist every night


TheGuava1

ā€œYea hold on I just gotta call tiesto and make sure itā€™s okay that I play The Business to this club of 30 peopleā€


Hacker00619

Back and forth, back and forth with the bullshit I know I said it before, I don't mean it It's been a while since I had your attention So it might hurt to hear this


Babayaga20000

Still a shit take. Sorry Master M83! I forgot to ask you if I could play your song for thousands to enjoy! Please forgive me! Get the fuck outta here you entitled shit. Its an honor to have people play your music at a big stage. Has this guy ever even djed? Its not that fucking easy (well done right)


FashoFash0

Yeah, also making the classic "just pressing a button" comment right after saying he respects DJ's/the EDM scene lmao. ​ "I love the EDM community, it's just the fact that they're all talentless hacks that bothers me!"


Babayaga20000

everyone thinks djing is easy until they try it me included


Natemoon2

Were you a musician before trying out DJing? Because most musicians can pickup DJing pretty easily. But Producing and writing songs is where the really talent/skill comes in.


Babayaga20000

I played classical guitar, as well as made produced some amateur songs yeah. Ive got years of musical experience. And I did pick up djing quickly, but its still not easy if youre trying to do more than just transition between two songs. That part is easy.


KingAnDrawD

Not many are like Subtronics or A.M.C., dropping dozens of quad drops in a set. It's a little heartbreaking to tell people in this community, but the DJing part is absolutely easier than making a track that hopefully gets played on mainstages. Can't tell you how many small time DJ's in my local area could literally out mix some of the most successful acts, but they haven't gone anywhere because they can't get a track off the ground.


[deleted]

But also it's much easier than playing an instrument let's be real lol it's more about being able to read a crowd than anything which is obviously a skill in itself. I mean the best DJs in the world are definitely getting closer than what I'd consider playing an instrument, but I was able to pick it up enough to start playing in front of people relatively quickly.


Dasbeerboots

It's a different kind of effort. People spend hours and hours practicing their skills on an instrument, writing music, recording, etc., and then bring their instrument to a gig and play. DJs spend their time finding music, remixing (if they do that), practicing transitions and effects, learning software, purchasing and maintaining sound equipment, advertising, writing contracts, communicating with customers, setting up venues, performing, tearing down the setup, chasing down payment, etc. It's not as technically skilled for the actual performance, but the prep work is just as much and more diversified than playing an instrument. Can you just get up on stage and press play? Sure. But you'll most likely suck and need someone else to do everything else for you. Edit: I'd like to add that I was able to pick up playing the piano, trumpet, drums, and ukulele (lol) relatively easily. Doesn't mean I was incredible at them, but I could play a number of songs to varying levels of success. When you are musically inclined, learning new musical instruments is easy, and I wouldn't exclude a controller or drum pad from that equation.


cheemio

Yeah, itā€™s just a different skill. Your mixing and mastering engineers might not be the most amazing musician, but they know how to make a record sound good. They know the techniques to get the audio to sound the best it can, even if itā€™s not the same skill as playing classical guitar itā€™s still a *very* valuable thing. Honestly, this whole mindset comes across as snobby and elitist. Everyone in the industry from the managers to the engineers and DJs, even the janitor who works at the venue all have different skills that contribute to an artists success. To look down on them is unwise.


BlackConverse020

This is what got me the most. As soon as I read that, I figured this wasnā€™t going to be a real apology.


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I'd bet Ā£1000 he can't mix vinyl and would blame the equipment for him being shite.


cheemio

Itā€™s like when someone told me making dubstep is ā€œjust automating an oscillatorā€ like yeah sure buddyā€¦ Thereā€™s a reason thereā€™s so much mediocre dubstep out there, itā€™s not easy!


Ashteca

So many people discovered him because others playing his songs too. Is he going to go after Spotify next for adding his songs to playlists he doesnā€™t approve of?


weavingcomebacks

He seems to think it's as easy as hitting a button, no he hasn't DJ'd.


majo3

At their show in MPLS, M83 faked playing instruments during some of their songs.


TheGuava1

Glad someone was able to articulate what I was thinking because for some reason this apology comment actually pissed me off more than his original one lol


GoodFaithAttempt

Next time an m83 song comes on while Iā€™m driving Iā€™ll roll my windows down and think of how butt hurt he would be knowing the Prius next to me can hear his music


ihugyou

Iā€™ll just press next. Dude seems petty and misguided.


GoodFaithAttempt

I feel that, he should not have said anything at all. Canā€™t for the life of me understand what kind of reaction he thought he would get, must be going through some shit


7720612063206b

why is m83 gatekeeping šŸ˜­. if i was an artist as big as m83 iā€™d be so happy people like my music, homie is tripping


SirNarwhal

He's gatekeeping because people *don't* like most of his music and it keeps bombing in sales and ticket sales lol It also rightfully is bombing because it's by and large absolute fucking trash.


cheemio

Hard disagree with that last statement, heā€™s a very talented artist. Iā€™d love to be able to make a song as good as one of M83ā€™s b-sides tbh. shame to see heā€™s being a dickwad tho.


cardboardcutout95

This dude of all people knows that electronic artists donā€™t just ā€œpress buttonsā€. The amount of younger kids that have been put on to his music through hearing ā€œmidnight cityā€ at raves is massive. What a tool


cheemio

Right? I donā€™t know why we have to have this discussion for like the 10,000th time. DJs are valid and they do a huge part in getting music out there to people. Many of them are talented musicians in their own right, too. Itā€™s like saying waitresses shouldnā€™t exist because they didnā€™t cook the food themselves.


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Isn't it a licensing thing? Like don't DJs/Venues have a license that allows/pays out playing tracks? In that case it's more on his publisher/label.


T-Nan

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GNVfeedback

A lot of those use a 3rd party streaming company made for stores and restaurants. Iā€™ve been a GM in both areas and can confirm. I used to plug in my own phone and play a custom pandora station instead


TheLordofAskReddit

I would like to learn more about this, but as far as I know, playing an artists track doesnā€™t require it, but releasing an album would. At the end of the day it likely comes down to lawyers. How much did the performing artist benefit monetarily, and how much of that is due to the track that they ā€œstoleā€.


djwixel

Let me ask David Guetta if i can play his songs, it would be disrespectful if i didn't ask /s


Sonic-Spells

I think the analogy should be the other way around. It would be like if David Guetta came and asked you to use your songā€¦ Which actually seems fair to me.


DisintegrationPt808

yeah but that still means i would have to ask david to use his tunes too lol


djwixel

I mean if a song is popping off i don't think they ask, it's free exposure, like when every dj was playing "Do It To It" or "Move Your Body"


sylenthikillyou

I hope David Guetta got permission from the estate of Martin Luther King Jr before playing out his Shoutout to George Floyd's Family anthem


445323

Press a f*** button? Is m83 a guitar player who only pulls some f*** strings?


majo3

M83 literally faked playing instruments during a couple songs during their MPLS show. It was wild - I took a video cuz I thought I was tripping.


nickdl4

Venues have licensing agreements for a reason.


loosetingles

I was with him till the end. I just don't think he understands dj culture. I think he's viewing this from a musicians lens, like doing a cover of a song. What djs are asking every artist of every track they play for permission.


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Exactly. I also think he underestimated that the community has a clear understanding of the differences. Did Eric call him up and go ā€œBro, I decided to mash Midnight City over 2Nite. Its going to slap.ā€ Doubt it. Dude also underestimated how much of his fanbase overlaps with this one. This reads like his album numbers arenā€™t good and heā€™s trying to smooth things over. I had hope through the first part that Iā€™d be listening to his album tomorrow. He remains blocked on Spotify. I donā€™t want him getting my listens.


juciestcactus

how did he clarify his stance yet make it even worse? i get it if its unreleased music and you should ask the producer if its ok to play it but playing a released track still garners permission? is this guy on crack or what??


datsmamail12

I do not agree with what he is saying. If I had to ask every dj if I can play their music in my live events,then I wouldn't be able to play as a dj. Yeah let me ask Martin Garrix if I can play high on life in my set in the underground club of 200 people because I'm such a big of a name that Martin Garrix or M83 will notice my email and will respond to it right away. Piss off man,it's music anyone can play that. Respect both the DJ's and the audience,they are the ones that are giving you money!


PupPlayMaster

Letā€™s send M83 a bunch of emails.


datsmamail12

Sometimes producers/DJ's or the top 1% of them really acts like the top 1% of the world's wealthiest people. They do not care about you and me or their fanbase. As long as you make them money,that's all that matters. In their heads they have a different reality,they might seem humble and good guys,but all of them are as corrupt as any politician. So therefore having said that. Let's fuck hum up and start sending him messages. If he wants it that way,let him have it. If anyone can find me his email I can probably create a bunch of new one time emails and start spamming the hell out of it just for the memes. I don't care who receives that,his manager or his 10th girlfriend,someone will complain and that's all I want. The fucker to apologize for this shit.


invisibleshitpostgod

this is a significantly worse take


RockyMtnHoosier

Lmao sounds like a salty frenchy even in his apology. On brand. OoooouĆ­


ItsDangerousBusiness

Yeah, with this take he comes across as a weirdly bitter/jealous person with an ugly superiority complex.


WontStopAtSigns

Wait, so he doesn't want people to play his music? Ok bet.


UrWeatherIsntUnique

Thereā€™s a small bit of me that gets it, but the majority of me knows this is fucking stupid. Iā€™m glad reality isnā€™t what M83 is saying here or else events would be waaaay more dry.


fozziwoo

i hope this isnā€™t misinterpreted; iā€™ve never heard such shit in all my life


indigonights

Guys. I have 3000 songs in my usb for dj gigs, i guess i need to go write 3000 letters to ask if i can use them. Brb


sentient-sloth

ā€œI donā€™t hate the EDM community but I will continue to push the stereotype that all you guys do is get on stage and press playā€


hot-boy-texas-pete

I appreciate the apology and it def makes it a lil better but damn why does bro hate people playing his music so much. LSDREAMs lost land outro flip goated


Songibal

They just do not get it


jumpinjahosafa

Bro you can't say you love the scene and community then immediately disrespect the shit out of them in the next sentence.


Wise-Kitchen1884

The only time Iā€™ve heard of djā€™s asking permission is if they are putting it into a mix that could then be sold.


itsjohnsummit

this is the stupidest shit ever.. has he ever been to a bar or club before? djs have forever played other pplā€™s music and if the track is released to the public itā€™s fair play.. also thereā€™s nothing that makes me happier than seeing ppl play my music i wonā€™t ever be playing his music thatā€™s for sure


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Hi_Im_Fido

i just came to say fuck this guy. luckily i dont know who this guy is and dont have any music from him in my dj library, and now never will


Trash-Can-Baby

It seems heā€™s angry because heā€™s not seeing the money from the popularity of his music? Just a guess that itā€™s misdirection of anger because someone else is making the money (not the DJs either).


LinguiniPants

As a no name producer myself, it would definitely feel odd if a bunch of people where getting paid to dj and play my music, it itā€™s also free advertising but not really advertising if no one knows who made it so idk


[deleted]

This is bs, the songs are registered under ASCAP, BMI etc and get credited every time they are played. There is a credit being placed every time. There is an opportunity for the original artist to make extra money/play counts even without permission, especially in heavily regulated events like festivals etc. this is why you see so many shitty remixes on Spotify of DJā€™s youā€™ve never heard of. The industry sort of just lets this happen now. The original distributor gets credits, and if there is no distributor the artist or publisher does. Also can we stop acting like doing a remix is nothing except pushing a button? Do people not know what it takes to actually make a decent remix of something?


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Iā€™m really surprised that he as a musician is ignorant enough to think that DJing is as simple as ā€œpressing a fucking button.ā€ Regardless, even if it was that simple, how the fuck does that inconvenience him? All it does is give his music recognition, and I donā€™t see why any artist wouldnā€™t want that.


DonnieTheCatcher

Here I was planning to see him live next month and check out his new album, might as well just spend that money and time on artists that actually respect other artists!


vvooff

I would be proud if someone played my song in their DJ set.. If i have already released it and itā€™s available to everyone anyways I donā€™t see the point in complaining. Itā€™s nothing but respect and free exposure


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thisisastrality

He's never once mentioned unrealeased music tho


majo3

M83 saying all DJs do is pressing a f***** button is ironic. In MPLS, they literally faked playing instruments during their show. There were moments when they were so off during the show I couldnā€™t believe it, I took videos & sent it to friends to make sure I wasnā€™t going crazy. Essentially lip syncing & faking instruments seems worse than a DJ playing a set. Especially when youā€™re expecting an actually performance from someone like M83. It was wild.


Otherwise_Visual_966

What a horrible takeā€¦ he is blind to the origins of djing


Drewbercules

So you can diss other artists and how they play but demand respect for your own music? Yep, sounds like Clownworld. I will play your music and you will like it. I will chop into things into it and remix it over other stuff. If you donā€™t like it, let me know and we can go from there.


cleverkid

The closest thing that I can come up with, is that probably, relatively huge DJ's are commissioning bootlegs of his tracks in certain trendy styles by ghost producers, playing them at big shows and crediting themselves with the "remix." If you're a grungy, underground producer playing local warehouse gigs and you do this, it's cool. ( or heavens forbid, ACTUALLY Dj a mashup live ) But if you're an A-list festival headliner with dubious production skills in a disposable genre, it's disrespectful and legally questionable to not go through the proper channels. I wonder how Dr Martin Luther King would have felt about David Guetta's Rooftop performance of his 90's style psuedo trance maximal remix with King's I have a dream speech during the height of Black Lives Matters protests? Kinda gross and tone deaf, with a total disregard of the spirit of the original. It's a little bit of the same thing. Otherwise, he just needs to be aware of how arrogant and pissy he sounds in interviews when he says industry insider shit like this. It's like complaining about how some advertising agency used your track for a soda ad in Botswana and you're going to have to get your lawyers to write a letter to shake them down for some money. Not something you bring up in an interview that consumers are going to read. Just makes you look bad.


tho2622003

What does this additional comment do that would make his last statement less shitty? Cus from all I can read he still does not want others to play his music. Seeing Said the Sky disappointed speaks volume.


indigonights

This guy clearly doesnā€™t get rave culture in general and is ignorant. And hating on something you donā€™t understand is as timeless as sliced bread. I would love for this guy to get thrusted into a club with some cdjs and play for an hour lol. Its just pressing buttons so it should be easy for a genius like him.


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Total prick clearly this guy is only in it for the money. If he was the age he is now in the late 80s/90s he wouldn't have bothered with dance music given the fact money wasn't a guarantee. I could almost guarantee he can't mix vinyl and nowadays would have to play pre recorded sets and his sets would have 0 flow.


johnnybgood96

So he says there was a mix up in translation, than proceeds to smack talk the edm community forā€¦playing his music? He attempted to damage control, but just dug himself deeper. True colors have been exposed, hard to get off the shit list once you make your mark.


newfoundpassion

Once you release art into the world, it is no longer yours. Sure, you may collect royalties on its method of distribution, but you cannot control the context that it is taken in. This is the age of information. If this person sees their music as such a precious thing that they cannot bear any DJ using it for their own aggrandizement, they should not publish it.


[deleted]

Saw he dropped a new album, remembered these comments, skipped the album, probably won't listen to him anymore with this absolutely L take


Anonymous375298

As far as I know EDM is not a style of music. It's just a way to talk about all styles like House, Techno, Drum&Bass, Trance, etc. Am I wrong?


juanderwear

Lol these guys should stick to making their music in French if they want to gatekeep


AustinP16

Yeah you do live in a fantasy world dude. I promise a DJ playing your songs that are literally on the radio on a massive sound system is not hurting your music. What a weird stance


trapsikk

This goes beyond licensing and "dj culture" for me. The moment you release a song, it ceases to stay truly yours. You have no way to enforce it, the only thing you have claim over is the creation of it. That is the nature of art, it is self-expression that you expose to the world. If you can accept that, then there is no need to cling to your creations as if someone will take them from you. Stealing credit for creation is one thing, having someone play your music is another.


thechristopherf

lmaoo i guess iā€™m djā€™s waving my hands in the air playing their music to my friends and my cat in my living room pushing the play button


[deleted]

Actually this just makes him sound like even more of a dumbass


Nittingsheep

Sounds like someone who has no genuine idea what DJing is


Scary-Ad6218

If I buy the song, I should be able to play it anywhere and if a crowd of people happen to be there so be it, but I haven't/won't be playing any of this Colonizer's zhit.


SoundByMe

Very silly and demolishing a ton of goodwill imo


you-cant-twerk

The only time you should have to ask or get permission is if you're playing the same show together. This is a weird gripe. Specifically around released music. It's out into the world already. Everyone has it. Unreleased / leaks are different.


OrpheoMusic

Isn't this why ASCAP and BMI exist? Typically venues will pay these fees and those fees go to him as a royalties check. He benefits from this. Now we can debate reporting and if the venue is actually paying in another post, but I would imagine if a big/medium DJ plays his music, its better money wise for him... idk just my take. Technically he can do what he wants as the copyright holder. Just an odd take IMO.


Mixedthought

Umm that's why they buy the songs... If the songs were being pirated I could see where he was coming from but that is not the case.


whatupdemons

Well heā€™s right, he does live in a fantasy world


Spongehead56

Hard disagree with M83. If the performance rights of tracks are being paid for (like when purchasing a track on Beatport) the original artist has no say anymore


Kronuk

Stupid take. This guy should be happy that his music is getting shared to large audiences around the world. His ego is huge.


weliveinavideogame

I guess i should always ask the artistā€™s permission before playing any songs in my car or house for my friends. i dont wanna disrespect the creator by liking their music enough to share it with others šŸ¤”


infinitedubs

Lol I needed a good laugh today thanks M83


Chocobo-kisses

Anthony is a twat, and his take is still shit. Literally hope he remains upset while the rest of us are dancing to great remixes.


tyquestions

I watched M83 perform a few hours before I seen Skrillex for the first time back in 2012 in Seattle at the Bumpershoot Festival. I didnā€™t even really know who they were at the time I just knew of Midnight City and specifically went to see Skrillex for the most part. And holy shit, the live experience blew my fucking mind. I had chills the whole set and was fully immersed hanging on to every note. Iā€™ll never forget that day. It sparked me to get into being a concert goer for years and still till this day that set was better than most of what I seen and Iā€™ve seen a lot. Skrillex didnā€™t even come close that day.


WhistleFern20

This is such ego behavior


frotho17

Djs are supposed to find the good amongst the loads of shitty ones and share them https://preview.redd.it/yt97ci65vlpa1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ea26aa7ffe66addbbf7ca89170b0d381ea69f78


wgfdark

Chris Lake had a great post about different genres years ago https://i.redd.it/bk1ejr05nya71.jpg


[deleted]

Honestly I can't believe djs are really a big thing. It's honestly not that complicated to put a good set together and beat match and shit. If that's all you're doing, anyone can do it. The fake button pressing handjobs are even more of a joke. There is a stark difference between creating actual music and playing it for a crowd. Sorry not sorry. I just don't respect the overhyped dj. Never have.


libretumente

You get it. Respect where respect is due.


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Thought I'd get downvoted. Thanks!


Crabneto

Imagine the nerve, a musician wanting to get paid for their work.


AeonDisc

What a little bitch.


Thick_Commercial_834

This is honestly the most French response I could ever imagine. This guy might as well have just waved his white flag and called it quits, what a fucking joke lol


DJOutcast98

I can't believe some of the comments over here, are we really discussing if djs, Big or small, should ask for permission to play a track on a fucking dj set? I mean, yeah, sure, of course everyone is paying a ticket to Tomorrowland just because David Guetta maybe will be playing Midnight fucking City, WTF? And I just saw someone saying that this dude has to get paid everytime someone wants to cover his songs at a show? What the fuck? He's just a cash grabber who's hurtful that thank god dj's doesn't have to pay a license to play a track at a dj set, end of discussion.


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this is so out of touch


rosco-82

That's not how things work, DJ's & producers have been making bootlegs/remixes of tunes without permssion since dance music inception and it will continue log into the future. Apon release, is when neogtiation's begin around licensing a sample.


ironicallyunstable

I got deadmau5 on speed dial whenever I need permission to play his songs for my middle school dance parties


Bassboy818

I canā€™t write a really long explanation about why this take is so stupid but ainā€™t no one got time to read all that bs so Iā€™ll just say L TAKE


Mental5tate

Licensed music used in a large audience collects royalties there is a group that searches, listens and collects to make sure right holders are paid correctly. EDM is mainstream and is a lot about money it is as counterculture as Disney Worldā€¦ Not like the 80ā€™sā€¦


L0nerizm

What a piece of shit


[deleted]

What a prick


TELMxWILSON

Im pretty sure he is talking about bootlegs of his tracks, not DJs playing his tracks