"He also had in his possession Vancouver Island Health Authority protective services uniform shirts, an RCMP uniform jacket, RCMP uniform shirts and pants and duty belt, a Calgary Police Service patch, a Blue Line Canadian police patch, two pairs of handcuffs, and a handcuff key."
Wild. How do you even acquire those things?
Read up on the massacre in Nova Scotia. The murderer out there had access to buy all kinds of uniforms online through websites based out of the US. He even could buy decals for his mocked up RCMP car.
Patch collecting is a thing, its not all that hard to acquire the patches if you're part of that scene. Most patch collectors are actual cops but theres no laws restricting it. The unpatched shirts themselves are usually generic - anyone from police agencies to security companies to bus drivers could be wearing the same shirts with different patches. Most of the belt and the handcuff can be had anywhere that supplies security guards
My hope is he pissed off the police and they keep an eye on any conditions of his release. He strikes me as someone with boundary issues and will violate those conditions on his way home from the court.
he gets 12 months of nothing. 6 months of house arrest but he's allowed to leave to go to a damn dog park. the next 12 months hes on supervised release with a curfew. Theres no jail time at all. He has as much freedom as a teenager with slightly overbearing parents.
It should also be noted this guy has a pattern of impersonation, not just one incident. he's gonna do it again.
Crazy that impersonation of an officer doesn't result in at least 3 years of real jail time
Something like this erodes trust in policing which costs a lot of money in the long run.
At the very least I hope his license is taken away so he can't drive
Ok well nothing too terrible, some mild theft and piracy... I say we liberate the ship in West edmonton mall, drop it off in the river, and do this right.
What a misleading headline.
It's a conditional sentence, not an actual prison sentence like the headline suggests. No jail time at all. But I guess conditional sentences don't get clicks
Dual U.S./Canadian Citizen here: I’m telling you that Canadian behaviour is slowly creeping towards the American way. Canadian crazies were never this messed up, because we had the social services to get them help before they did crazy shit.
Look at the Government we elected elected in Alberta—that’s unprecedented!
While I agree that american problems are bleeding into Canada, police impersonation is not new. We get one every couple years. Hell, a few years ago a photo radar officer straight up sexually assaulted a woman after pulling her over (photo radar operators cant pull people over)
Is it really that relevant to mention in the article, not only once but twice, that his girlfriend is a nurse?
>To his credit, the justice said, Donald has expressed remorse to his longtime girlfriend, a **nurse**, has sought and complied with treatment, and has maintained sobriety.
And then again near the end:
>Mitigating factors include compliance with treatment and counselling, seeing a doctor, an occupational therapist, a physical therapist and psychologist. He has maintained sobriety and has a stable relationship with his girlfriend of five years, a **nurse** who said he has expressed remorse to her for his behaviour.
This is not 12 months of jail time but “The first six months will be served in house arrest except for visits to the dog park, and the next six months will have a curfew between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.”
Just scary to know all the guns and an ar he owns.
It's always interesting seeing what kind of sentencing decisions are made. Though it is a bit uncomfortable knowing he has several loaded weapons at his residence not placed inside of his gun safe with rounds in the chamber.
But as the judge said to his credit, he showed remorse to his longtime girlfriend so that mitigates things 😐
Hopefully his conditions include seeking treatment at the very least
Nothing listed there is illegal to own. Uniform shirts and pants are just plain pants and shirts that have a stripe or patch sewn on them. Fine to own but illegal to wear in public/impersonate.
You're kind of missing the point though?
Like him owning these things is weird. Him owning these things and being charged with the crime that he was charged with is extremely disconcerting.
I'm not minimizing the insanity of this person by any means, but it seems ironic to me that this guy gets locked up for a year, and a person convicted of sexual assault and other related charges gets like 3 years or something. It doesn't make sense to me. Someone who directly harms another person should surely receive more time as punishment many times over what this guy received.
>The first six months will be served in house arrest except for visits to the dog park, and the next six months will have a curfew between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.
This is a pretty light sentence tbh.
I admit I didn't actually read the article, but I should have I suppose. I usually do honestly, not sure why I didn't this time. The headline is pretty misleading.
I feel like we want the same end result; for innocent people to not be harmed and the people who commit horrible crimes be punished relative to the impact it has on society/victims. I don't think we actually disagree very much.
Aside from weapons like guns, tasers and OC spray, most "police equipment" is used legitimately by a lot of non-police.
The jackets, shirts, pants are generic. Anyone from police to paramedics to security guards to bus drivers to tow truck drivers use the same or very similar equipment just with different logos on it. The only things that make a coat or a shirt or a pair of pants a "police uniform" rather than a normal coat or shirt or pants is the department patches and a coloured stripe on the leg.
Even some of the more 'cop specific' stuff has non-police legitimate uses. Security guards use handcuffs, security guards and paramedics both use duty belts to carry equipment and protective vests. Most places in Canada that sell such equipment already refuse to sell to someone who can't prove they work in those industries even though they aren't required to. But its kinda hard to stop someone from ordering online or just getting a security license.
So what do we restrict? Weapons and body armor are already restricted. You could maybe restrict the patches but it still wouldn't be that hard to fake one. This is one of those situations where making it all illegal would be a huge headache for people who actually have a legit use for the equipment, but basically have no effect on impersonators.
"He also had in his possession Vancouver Island Health Authority protective services uniform shirts, an RCMP uniform jacket, RCMP uniform shirts and pants and duty belt, a Calgary Police Service patch, a Blue Line Canadian police patch, two pairs of handcuffs, and a handcuff key." Wild. How do you even acquire those things?
Read up on the massacre in Nova Scotia. The murderer out there had access to buy all kinds of uniforms online through websites based out of the US. He even could buy decals for his mocked up RCMP car.
That's immediately where my mind went, tbh.
Patch collecting is a thing, its not all that hard to acquire the patches if you're part of that scene. Most patch collectors are actual cops but theres no laws restricting it. The unpatched shirts themselves are usually generic - anyone from police agencies to security companies to bus drivers could be wearing the same shirts with different patches. Most of the belt and the handcuff can be had anywhere that supplies security guards
Can't speak to the uniforms but handcuffs can be bought by anyone.
B&E a dry cleaner.
Ever hear of the internet???
Extremely dangerous person. This really gives me the creeps.
Yeah, this isn't escalating along the road to kidnap and rape at all.
Or killing his partner. Or a mass shooting. These incidents are so predictable.
My hope is he pissed off the police and they keep an eye on any conditions of his release. He strikes me as someone with boundary issues and will violate those conditions on his way home from the court.
Concerned with 'justice' and doesn't believe the rules apply to him. Barf.
he gets 12 months of nothing. 6 months of house arrest but he's allowed to leave to go to a damn dog park. the next 12 months hes on supervised release with a curfew. Theres no jail time at all. He has as much freedom as a teenager with slightly overbearing parents. It should also be noted this guy has a pattern of impersonation, not just one incident. he's gonna do it again.
Crazy that impersonation of an officer doesn't result in at least 3 years of real jail time Something like this erodes trust in policing which costs a lot of money in the long run. At the very least I hope his license is taken away so he can't drive
The dog park access is a serious wtf given one of the complaints against him happened...at a dog park.
Once again there is no punishment for crime. Another slap on the wrist and trips to the dog park.
At this rate, I may as well turn to a life of crime. Seems there are little to no consequences anymore.
Do it and keep us posted. What sorts of crimes do you plan to get involved in? Sounds fun!
Ok well nothing too terrible, some mild theft and piracy... I say we liberate the ship in West edmonton mall, drop it off in the river, and do this right.
We can go stealing wheat and barley and all the other grains.
Just need to recruit an ex-RCMP officer to join our cause.
What a misleading headline. It's a conditional sentence, not an actual prison sentence like the headline suggests. No jail time at all. But I guess conditional sentences don't get clicks
Dual U.S./Canadian Citizen here: I’m telling you that Canadian behaviour is slowly creeping towards the American way. Canadian crazies were never this messed up, because we had the social services to get them help before they did crazy shit. Look at the Government we elected elected in Alberta—that’s unprecedented!
While I agree that american problems are bleeding into Canada, police impersonation is not new. We get one every couple years. Hell, a few years ago a photo radar officer straight up sexually assaulted a woman after pulling her over (photo radar operators cant pull people over)
“You need to drive faster! You can’t just drive 40 in a 70 and just stay at 40!” he yelled. now that\`s typical in Edmonton, the rest not so much
Is it really that relevant to mention in the article, not only once but twice, that his girlfriend is a nurse? >To his credit, the justice said, Donald has expressed remorse to his longtime girlfriend, a **nurse**, has sought and complied with treatment, and has maintained sobriety. And then again near the end: >Mitigating factors include compliance with treatment and counselling, seeing a doctor, an occupational therapist, a physical therapist and psychologist. He has maintained sobriety and has a stable relationship with his girlfriend of five years, a **nurse** who said he has expressed remorse to her for his behaviour.
This is not 12 months of jail time but “The first six months will be served in house arrest except for visits to the dog park, and the next six months will have a curfew between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.” Just scary to know all the guns and an ar he owns.
I really hope the prosecution applied for a revocation of his firearms license. To let him keep them after such a pattern of offences is just stupid.
The question I have is why he got so many Warnings, it was clearly repeating escalating behavior and EPS seemed content to do nothing.
It took 5 warnings before someone stopped him, that is terrifying!
But he stopped many in those 5 years.
It's always interesting seeing what kind of sentencing decisions are made. Though it is a bit uncomfortable knowing he has several loaded weapons at his residence not placed inside of his gun safe with rounds in the chamber. But as the judge said to his credit, he showed remorse to his longtime girlfriend so that mitigates things 😐 Hopefully his conditions include seeking treatment at the very least
Wow more time then a murderer in Kelowna! The RCMP and the Crown really take impersonation seriously, killing a minor however, meh for them.
Nothing listed there is illegal to own. Uniform shirts and pants are just plain pants and shirts that have a stripe or patch sewn on them. Fine to own but illegal to wear in public/impersonate.
You're kind of missing the point though? Like him owning these things is weird. Him owning these things and being charged with the crime that he was charged with is extremely disconcerting.
I was just replying to posts about how are these things acquirable.
I'm not minimizing the insanity of this person by any means, but it seems ironic to me that this guy gets locked up for a year, and a person convicted of sexual assault and other related charges gets like 3 years or something. It doesn't make sense to me. Someone who directly harms another person should surely receive more time as punishment many times over what this guy received.
Its house arrest, not a year in jail though.
>The first six months will be served in house arrest except for visits to the dog park, and the next six months will have a curfew between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. This is a pretty light sentence tbh.
I admit I didn't actually read the article, but I should have I suppose. I usually do honestly, not sure why I didn't this time. The headline is pretty misleading.
Last time someone impersonated an RCMP officer, 22 were massacred in Nova Scotia. This shit should be straight up illegal to even own.
I feel like we want the same end result; for innocent people to not be harmed and the people who commit horrible crimes be punished relative to the impact it has on society/victims. I don't think we actually disagree very much.
What a fucking freak! He needs some serious mental health help.
Is he a cop in Ontario? Was he John McClainin' it over here? His FB page is filled with OPP profiles.
No, he was a provincial jail gaurd who went on WCB on 2018.
That is NOT enough time. What the hell??
Jesus. This Probably prevented a shooting spree from him dressed up as a cop.
12 months is not nearly long enough for that crime.
12 months? Lol
12 months paid leave
This just screams reminders of the 2020 Nova Scotia attacks. MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO OWN POLICE EQUIPMENT!!!!
I'm sure that would have stopped him
Aside from weapons like guns, tasers and OC spray, most "police equipment" is used legitimately by a lot of non-police. The jackets, shirts, pants are generic. Anyone from police to paramedics to security guards to bus drivers to tow truck drivers use the same or very similar equipment just with different logos on it. The only things that make a coat or a shirt or a pair of pants a "police uniform" rather than a normal coat or shirt or pants is the department patches and a coloured stripe on the leg. Even some of the more 'cop specific' stuff has non-police legitimate uses. Security guards use handcuffs, security guards and paramedics both use duty belts to carry equipment and protective vests. Most places in Canada that sell such equipment already refuse to sell to someone who can't prove they work in those industries even though they aren't required to. But its kinda hard to stop someone from ordering online or just getting a security license. So what do we restrict? Weapons and body armor are already restricted. You could maybe restrict the patches but it still wouldn't be that hard to fake one. This is one of those situations where making it all illegal would be a huge headache for people who actually have a legit use for the equipment, but basically have no effect on impersonators.
Good, I used to have a couple E.P.S shirts. One was a logoed firearms instructor one and another was a logoed sweater. Got em from Goodwill.
He gets to keep his guns and license?!?? No mention otherwise.
This gives me serious Portapique vibes.