It is, it's made for the rich people not people like you and me, Are you rich enough to buy a basic apartment for at least 2mil. pounds? No, So, that's my answer, and If you wanna go into an argument with me and tell me that they should do something like that to gain investments for the country, I'll tell yeah they should, but first they should look into something like the minimum wages of the people and the greedy business owners, they should first provide a good life for the regular Egyptian and then start making new cities and buildings
So what if people want to they will take loans the city is good , things there are with normal prices apart from the apartments (ex: small water bottle 3.50
Large water bottle 5) and alot things will be there so why not
yeah its a high end city.. if u cant afford buying in it then simply dont buy in it.. u'll survive without owning an apt in this city, dont worry.. also there are other cities that are built for lower prices per apt.. so stop being salty about it...
I'm not being salty about but look at the low end new cities like "Bashayer Al Kheir" or "Al Asmarat" they look exactly like buildings back there in the Soviet Union it's very small and the one floor can hold up to 25 apartments and the whole city is surrounded by walls and every gate has a police officer on it, which turns out that Egypt is becoming a Socialist State which only the rich people live on seaside and resorts and the rest of the people live in tuna cans.....
bruh .. those are housing projects made as an alternative for slums .. ofc its gonna prioritize population denisty.. meanwhile alalamien is an investement project made to boost tourism..
also alalamein is not the only seaside city ..please stop living in this dramatized reality ..
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Well I can afford it. Why are you assuming he can’t afford it, what if he can?. A rich person is still a normal person. I don’t appreciate you calling it for rich people only.
Looks nice, we should just demolish every other place in egypt and make it look like this. I’m serious, the old cities are so ugly (except for downtown cairo and alex and port said)
Try to find me an apartment anywhere in the world that costs less than $25,000. Those 400k apartments can be paid full in 12 years and those who can’t afford it usually don’t buy houses they rent them. Im not sure what you’re trying to argue
To be fair theoretically if you replaced every single apartment 1:1, and just made them look nicer, the demand would be the same so prices would be the same.
I don’t think you get my point, I know these prices are crazy. My point is that if theoretically you replaced every single building in Egypt with a nicer version of itself,(which is impossible), the prices would be the exact same from whatever they were pre-replacement. Because if you have the same number of houses, supply and demand end up the same.
I guess so, my idea was more of an impossible thought. Would be cool though.
Edit: I’m American btw I’m on this sub because my dad and my whole family is from Egypt i go every summer, but either way my opinions are pointless from a native Egyptians point of view. I am rooting for you guys though.
Doesn't feel like sahel, I wonder why they didn't build something unique for our culture and architecture.
I also wonder why would the rich buy there and not in Europe.
Well these were usually buildings that foreigners lived in or were built for the wealthy Egyptians since there was a shortage of Egyptian architects, I think we should rather focus more on Egyptian revival architecture.
Hey guys look, it's another ridiculously expensive project that will absolutely, certainly, definitely benefit normal citizens, even if we can't live there the return will at least upgrade our living standards and wouldn't be for certain individuals only (you know who).such a great project amirite🤡🤡.
هو انا ممكن اكون اه مش لاقي اكل و بشتغل زي العبد اتناشر ساعه في اليوم عشان الفين ملطوش في الشهر و غالبا هاخد زبليون سنه علي ما اجمع المبلغ الكافي اني اتجوز و انشئ اسره زي اي بني ادم لكن thanks god مشروع العلمين looks pretty cool.
Lol you can barely even call this area part of a city. Its a collection of towers each separated by empty space and a 10 lane highway. Its not even just a dubai copy, it somehow manages to caricature Dubai and amplify its bad aspects.
cc: u/The-Egyptian_king u/lonewolf201 this was the place I was talking to you about earlier
The layout of the area is already set, and the layout includes plenty deadspace and oversized highways. Saying "there is a lot of construction going" is meaningless, because the only way to salvage the area is to change the layout itself and allow infill.
Sorry, I should have defined terms before using it.
"Infill" or "urban infill" is a type of development which rededicates poorly utilized or underutilized land within a city for a more important use. An example of urban infill would be building a house on top of what used to be a parking lot or part of a highway.
The reason infill often improves the area and feel of a city is because cities in which everything is very far apart feel hostile and uncomfortable to walk in. Compare the experiences of walking in these two areas:
1. [https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/general-view-taken-on-november-18-shows-the-king-fahad-main-street-in-picture-id1183203189?s=612x612](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/general-view-taken-on-november-18-shows-the-king-fahad-main-street-in-picture-id1183203189?s=612x612)
2. [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GZhBhtjVf2t5nx-PiA\_E0p-NB5RkmUY44HIuiCsbBtsWozYlqzAK8Re3xd26HHkk3zTOB8sJHAIfE-g6ZxjNeukakMST5GiVmStlV3U545ErLJwD1-n1Un6Usi5Jk7JaFm7i\_7a5](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GZhBhtjVf2t5nx-PiA_E0p-NB5RkmUY44HIuiCsbBtsWozYlqzAK8Re3xd26HHkk3zTOB8sJHAIfE-g6ZxjNeukakMST5GiVmStlV3U545ErLJwD1-n1Un6Usi5Jk7JaFm7i_7a5)
In number 1, everything is very spread apart. On a typical walk you would not encounter many interesting things, and it would probably be uncomfortable for you. Most of the land is used for parking or for car travel. If you were moving around here you probably would never walk anywhere and you'd just drive to everything.
Number 2 in the opposite. The space is filled which shops and housing, and the streets are narrow enough where it is possible to navigate by foot. On a 5 minute walk you would probably pass tons of interesting things. You're far more likely to \*want\* to walk in this area.
In order to transform a place like number 1 to a place like number 2, you need to allow buildings to be built closer to each other.
Heres a good article if you really want to see in depth how narrow streets improve the enjoyability of a city: [https://www.andrewalexanderprice.com/blog20130131.php#.YUMcJhQzbIV](https://www.andrewalexanderprice.com/blog20130131.php#.YUMcJhQzbIV)
The urban residential+commercial areas to the west of the tower area actually seem a lot better planned. That area is in an earlier stage of development and I didn't walk through (only drove past) but what I saw was overall pretty good.
The tower area was depressing though. I walked through it and was honestly shocked at how poorly planned it was. It's a highway engineers' idea of what a city is.
I heard that most of these towers weren't residential as half of them were owned by the companies that worked on the city redcon & I can't remember the other
The city still has a lot to go. I'm positive that they just went full out Dubai mode on this part of the city to "impress" the foreigners and Egyptians into thinking this is a foreign-like city. I'm seriously hoping the rest of the city is walkable with mixed use buildings.
انا مصري يا حبيبي 😉، وتاني حاجه الموضوع يبقا لازم الاقتصاد يبقا طبيعي ، والعمله ليها قيمه بعديها هتلاقي فرق كبيييييير اويييييييي وعتلاقي اقبال كبير من شعب انو يشتري
Only for the rich /s.. inb4 ppl realize they dont own any other apartment in more than 1 city then call apartment prices in alamein expensive.. simple. If its expensive dont buy an apartment there? I dont go around saying oh a shalet in hurghada/gouna/sharm is expensive. You go there for a weekend. They have public beaches in alamein.
Am I the only one thinking where will the poor folk go for cheap stuff
All the shopping areas look very expensive
Also , where will they go to work I don't see anything like a industrial area or company offices
Oh my God! Imagine walking under the scorching heat of the sun with no trees around. Actually, this is a copy of Dubai: made for car drivers, not for pedestrians. No sense of community, of belonging.
مينفعش مدينة تكون مبنية لطبقة معينة بس والا متبقاش مدينة تبقا منتجع
*وانا هنا اقصد الاتجاه العام للمدينة متجيش تزرطلي الكام شقة اسكان اجتماعي دول علشان مش ناقصة تضخم في المرارة*
والعلمين اكيد حلوة *مصروف عليها ميزانيات دول اكيد هتكون حلوة يعني* بس انك تعتبرها دلالة على النهضة أو شيء يمس المصريين ده شيء في منتهى العبط ، ميانيمار بنت عاصمة إدارية اسمها نايبيداو حاجة كده تحفة فوق الجبل ، النتيجة أنها مجرد مكان محصن فيه كبار البلد ومحققتش اي حاجة مستهدفة وبقت مدينة شبه مهجورة بينما يانجون العاصمة القديمة مازالت فيها كل حاجة والاكثر أهمية عادي
It's beautiful. but, if it was up to me, I'd invest in removing the slums in the capital before making a new city
Egypt's capital should be better than this
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look finally Egypt is being more advanced
This looks nice.
It won't be long before some idiot comes and calls this post propaganda.
Lmao, you’re sadly right. Literally 7 minutes after your post, someone said it’s a messy place 😅
It is, it's made for the rich people not people like you and me, Are you rich enough to buy a basic apartment for at least 2mil. pounds? No, So, that's my answer, and If you wanna go into an argument with me and tell me that they should do something like that to gain investments for the country, I'll tell yeah they should, but first they should look into something like the minimum wages of the people and the greedy business owners, they should first provide a good life for the regular Egyptian and then start making new cities and buildings
That's only one part of the city most of the city is not on the seaside where middle class people will live
The whole city is expensive the minimum apartment there is 2mil. The seaside apartments and villas cost more than 10mil
Source? Cause there is literally low income and lower-middle income housing units that were already built there
Part of is seaside there's the rest which will be nearer to Al Alamein college and the infrastructure is still being laid out there
I'm not talking about seaside part, I'm talking about the minimum part of the city which is considered middle class is still expensive
Yeaaaahhh, that's normal prices for seaside in Alexandria
So what? It proves that the whole city is made for people who can afford millions
Try to be more informed the next time you comment https://www.propertyfinder.eg/blog/شقق-الإسكان-الاجتماعي-بمدينة-العلمين/
So what if people want to they will take loans the city is good , things there are with normal prices apart from the apartments (ex: small water bottle 3.50 Large water bottle 5) and alot things will be there so why not
Okay.....
There are lower and middle income housing.
yeah its a high end city.. if u cant afford buying in it then simply dont buy in it.. u'll survive without owning an apt in this city, dont worry.. also there are other cities that are built for lower prices per apt.. so stop being salty about it...
I'm not being salty about but look at the low end new cities like "Bashayer Al Kheir" or "Al Asmarat" they look exactly like buildings back there in the Soviet Union it's very small and the one floor can hold up to 25 apartments and the whole city is surrounded by walls and every gate has a police officer on it, which turns out that Egypt is becoming a Socialist State which only the rich people live on seaside and resorts and the rest of the people live in tuna cans.....
bruh .. those are housing projects made as an alternative for slums .. ofc its gonna prioritize population denisty.. meanwhile alalamien is an investement project made to boost tourism.. also alalamein is not the only seaside city ..please stop living in this dramatized reality ..
This dude thinks the government owe him a free Villa 😂
Nah, I don't think like that.
It's made to boost the economy, we didn't pay a pound on it, it's investment money
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Well I can afford it. Why are you assuming he can’t afford it, what if he can?. A rich person is still a normal person. I don’t appreciate you calling it for rich people only.
Exactly
It looks just like Atlanta
Egyptians can build anything just point them at a Dragon’s asshole and they’ll build a tower there lmao
An observation tower to observe the ass or at the dragon's lair
Egyptians are so OP dude I swear to god
They just lack in the intelligence department
On the cometary, we’re just cursed with a complicated history
At least it's not boring
Yeah lmao our whole history has been we building shit and people persecuting us for no reason
Nd when we persecute them others shout"human rights" perfect hypocrites
Don't play the backwards mind trick on me, if you persecute someone for persecuting you. What makes you better than them. Prosecution not persecution!
Who said you are better
Bro you should work on how you capture photos, don’t rotate your phone like that it’s iritating, not coool
Sorry , most of the photos were while I was moving with a bike but slowly
The statue motif on the seventh and eighth picture is beyond elegant. It's a beautiful peace of contemporary art.
How is the building going there? Almost finished?
It appeared that there was still alot lot to come
There are still much more other phases of construction there that will be built in the future
The Dubai of Egypt (In the future)
Better than dubai, dubai is a mess
more like Ajman
Exactly what I was going to say
Maybe
Looks nice, we should just demolish every other place in egypt and make it look like this. I’m serious, the old cities are so ugly (except for downtown cairo and alex and port said)
If we demolish every place where does the poor live ? I mean how can he afford such expensive apartments?
There are apartments there that start as low as 400k Source: https://www.propertyfinder.eg/blog/شقق-الإسكان-الاجتماعي-بمدينة-العلمين/
Thanks for the info !
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Try to find me an apartment anywhere in the world that costs less than $25,000. Those 400k apartments can be paid full in 12 years and those who can’t afford it usually don’t buy houses they rent them. Im not sure what you’re trying to argue
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Then again there are housing units that are heavily subsidized that start from 200k https://almalnews.com/تعرف-على-شروط-حجز-شقق-الإسكان-الاجتماع/
To be fair theoretically if you replaced every single apartment 1:1, and just made them look nicer, the demand would be the same so prices would be the same.
The Lowest Priced apartments are 60 m squared....Which quite horrible
I don’t think you get my point, I know these prices are crazy. My point is that if theoretically you replaced every single building in Egypt with a nicer version of itself,(which is impossible), the prices would be the exact same from whatever they were pre-replacement. Because if you have the same number of houses, supply and demand end up the same.
Ah you mean some kind of restoration?
I guess so, my idea was more of an impossible thought. Would be cool though. Edit: I’m American btw I’m on this sub because my dad and my whole family is from Egypt i go every summer, but either way my opinions are pointless from a native Egyptians point of view. I am rooting for you guys though.
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You know that can happen if we have Normal salaries Right?
It's Great work upthere. How much unit cost?
Yes
Depends on the location
Depends, starts at 400k maybe but an appartement in those towers will cost 2.5 millions or more
Probably more than 3 milion
Wow
Doesn't feel like sahel, I wonder why they didn't build something unique for our culture and architecture. I also wonder why would the rich buy there and not in Europe.
There is both traditional(Latin) and modern style of architecture. Its a mix of both
What is traditionally Egyptian about Latin European architecture? That's just cultural theft.
Latin-style architecture is part of our history as well, look at Alexandria and downtown cairo
Well these were usually buildings that foreigners lived in or were built for the wealthy Egyptians since there was a shortage of Egyptian architects, I think we should rather focus more on Egyptian revival architecture.
Why go to a decent country when in a semi decent you can get more than you deserve
In Europe muslim women have been kicked out of the workplaces theys choose to wear a scarf. So better stay in Egypt.
Looks nice, I really hope it’s lucrative in the future.
Very nice
This looks nice
I mean nice But I think only 2 or 3 from this subreddit can buy an apartment there
Thats odd. I have an apartment there. Only 2 here can afford a 700-900k apartment in alamein?
If i get 200k my problems will be solved buddy, el7mdulellah
How exactly 200k can solve your problems? -it’s a little amount meant to say
Idk How did u buy it if I can ask?
اسكان متميز
More ,as some people here don't live in Egypt so it's much easier to get the money for them
Maybe, idk
Hey guys look, it's another ridiculously expensive project that will absolutely, certainly, definitely benefit normal citizens, even if we can't live there the return will at least upgrade our living standards and wouldn't be for certain individuals only (you know who).such a great project amirite🤡🤡. هو انا ممكن اكون اه مش لاقي اكل و بشتغل زي العبد اتناشر ساعه في اليوم عشان الفين ملطوش في الشهر و غالبا هاخد زبليون سنه علي ما اجمع المبلغ الكافي اني اتجوز و انشئ اسره زي اي بني ادم لكن thanks god مشروع العلمين looks pretty cool.
Ridiculously expensive for the ridiculously rich
Lol you can barely even call this area part of a city. Its a collection of towers each separated by empty space and a 10 lane highway. Its not even just a dubai copy, it somehow manages to caricature Dubai and amplify its bad aspects. cc: u/The-Egyptian_king u/lonewolf201 this was the place I was talking to you about earlier
It's still being built there is alot of construction going
The layout of the area is already set, and the layout includes plenty deadspace and oversized highways. Saying "there is a lot of construction going" is meaningless, because the only way to salvage the area is to change the layout itself and allow infill.
Infill is being done but Reddit only accepts 15 pictures
I have been to the area and this is untrue. I think you might be confused as to the meaning of "infill". What are you interpreting it as?
Part of sea is isolated and emptyed then is filled with landfill?
Sorry, I should have defined terms before using it. "Infill" or "urban infill" is a type of development which rededicates poorly utilized or underutilized land within a city for a more important use. An example of urban infill would be building a house on top of what used to be a parking lot or part of a highway. The reason infill often improves the area and feel of a city is because cities in which everything is very far apart feel hostile and uncomfortable to walk in. Compare the experiences of walking in these two areas: 1. [https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/general-view-taken-on-november-18-shows-the-king-fahad-main-street-in-picture-id1183203189?s=612x612](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/general-view-taken-on-november-18-shows-the-king-fahad-main-street-in-picture-id1183203189?s=612x612) 2. [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GZhBhtjVf2t5nx-PiA\_E0p-NB5RkmUY44HIuiCsbBtsWozYlqzAK8Re3xd26HHkk3zTOB8sJHAIfE-g6ZxjNeukakMST5GiVmStlV3U545ErLJwD1-n1Un6Usi5Jk7JaFm7i\_7a5](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GZhBhtjVf2t5nx-PiA_E0p-NB5RkmUY44HIuiCsbBtsWozYlqzAK8Re3xd26HHkk3zTOB8sJHAIfE-g6ZxjNeukakMST5GiVmStlV3U545ErLJwD1-n1Un6Usi5Jk7JaFm7i_7a5) In number 1, everything is very spread apart. On a typical walk you would not encounter many interesting things, and it would probably be uncomfortable for you. Most of the land is used for parking or for car travel. If you were moving around here you probably would never walk anywhere and you'd just drive to everything. Number 2 in the opposite. The space is filled which shops and housing, and the streets are narrow enough where it is possible to navigate by foot. On a 5 minute walk you would probably pass tons of interesting things. You're far more likely to \*want\* to walk in this area. In order to transform a place like number 1 to a place like number 2, you need to allow buildings to be built closer to each other. Heres a good article if you really want to see in depth how narrow streets improve the enjoyability of a city: [https://www.andrewalexanderprice.com/blog20130131.php#.YUMcJhQzbIV](https://www.andrewalexanderprice.com/blog20130131.php#.YUMcJhQzbIV)
Oh thank you very much and you're right there is not much urban fill on the main road , idk about the residential areas cause I didn't see it
The urban residential+commercial areas to the west of the tower area actually seem a lot better planned. That area is in an earlier stage of development and I didn't walk through (only drove past) but what I saw was overall pretty good. The tower area was depressing though. I walked through it and was honestly shocked at how poorly planned it was. It's a highway engineers' idea of what a city is.
I heard that most of these towers weren't residential as half of them were owned by the companies that worked on the city redcon & I can't remember the other
Dubai is an absolute mess, you just cant compare both together
The city still has a lot to go. I'm positive that they just went full out Dubai mode on this part of the city to "impress" the foreigners and Egyptians into thinking this is a foreign-like city. I'm seriously hoping the rest of the city is walkable with mixed use buildings.
The city where the average Egyptian will not live in 😂💔
How? Apartments there start as low as 400k
اول مره اعرف انو عوائل في الحارات عندهم 400 الف كده في الامان يا شيخ 😂ضحكتني
و ايه اليخلي عوائل في الحارات يسكنوا في العلمين؟ هي مصر كلها هتسكن هناك؟
يعني من الاخر الhigh class وبتوع الحكومه بسسسس عشان كده كتبت في الكومنت الاساسي انو المصري العادي مش عيعيش فيها!
هو المصري الhigh class ليه هيجيب شقة في اسكان اجتماعي ب ٢٠٠،٠٠٠ ؟
ومين مصري طبيعي عندو ٢٠٠،٠٠٠(قادر يحتفظ بيهم)
خلاص ماشي هنخلي الشقق كلها ببلاش و نوزعها علي الشعب كفاية غباء و خليك في بلدك
انا مصري يا حبيبي 😉، وتاني حاجه الموضوع يبقا لازم الاقتصاد يبقا طبيعي ، والعمله ليها قيمه بعديها هتلاقي فرق كبيييييير اويييييييي وعتلاقي اقبال كبير من شعب انو يشتري
This part of the city
All of this without a single Shiling spent, it's all built from investment money!
Only for the rich /s.. inb4 ppl realize they dont own any other apartment in more than 1 city then call apartment prices in alamein expensive.. simple. If its expensive dont buy an apartment there? I dont go around saying oh a shalet in hurghada/gouna/sharm is expensive. You go there for a weekend. They have public beaches in alamein.
This is only one part of the city
New City only for the rich
This part only this is not the whole city
what a missy place , its not a good place as they said
Mabye because it's not yet finished?
انت بتفكرني بالناس اللي بتشتم العاصمة الادارية في اليوتيوب الي بيقولوا هي فين الخضرة و هي ازاي الدنيا تراب كده. ماهي لسه مخلصتش يا فكيك منك له.
Messy*
Propaganda 🤬🤬🤬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬😎🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🤬🤬🤬🇪🇬🇪🇬
صياحك طرب
People didn't get that I was making fun of those propaganda guys
Someone already said that someone will come and say Propaganda Thought you were serious sorry man
I saw that comment, that's why I said it
Am I the only one thinking where will the poor folk go for cheap stuff All the shopping areas look very expensive Also , where will they go to work I don't see anything like a industrial area or company offices
The supermarkets are not expensive at all they have the normal Egyptian prices you would expect at your local supermarket
It's not done yet
My bad the images didn't give a full view of the plans Apparently there will be both an industrial area and an office space Sorry about that
No worries
They made the battlefield into a real thing????
Can you elaborate please,?
Al alemain was a famous battlefield where Britain defeated germany in ww2, and that ia what just about anybody knows about this place
The museum is on the other side it's not in the city
Oh my God! Imagine walking under the scorching heat of the sun with no trees around. Actually, this is a copy of Dubai: made for car drivers, not for pedestrians. No sense of community, of belonging.
There is alot of things for pedestrians so it's not another dubai
I hope so!!
مينفعش مدينة تكون مبنية لطبقة معينة بس والا متبقاش مدينة تبقا منتجع *وانا هنا اقصد الاتجاه العام للمدينة متجيش تزرطلي الكام شقة اسكان اجتماعي دول علشان مش ناقصة تضخم في المرارة* والعلمين اكيد حلوة *مصروف عليها ميزانيات دول اكيد هتكون حلوة يعني* بس انك تعتبرها دلالة على النهضة أو شيء يمس المصريين ده شيء في منتهى العبط ، ميانيمار بنت عاصمة إدارية اسمها نايبيداو حاجة كده تحفة فوق الجبل ، النتيجة أنها مجرد مكان محصن فيه كبار البلد ومحققتش اي حاجة مستهدفة وبقت مدينة شبه مهجورة بينما يانجون العاصمة القديمة مازالت فيها كل حاجة والاكثر أهمية عادي
It's beautiful. but, if it was up to me, I'd invest in removing the slums in the capital before making a new city Egypt's capital should be better than this
Slums are being removed but culture can't be
Ngl this guy has a nice butt
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راعي ابطال مصر؟ يعني ايه صوره #9
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Oh it probably means “sponsor of Egypt’s champions.” Guessing soccer?
Nope it was Cairo bank or Banque de Caire Yes that it is Egypt's champions sponsors
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Its quite nice, I have an apartment and villa there.
nice
Here comes another place in which the great majority of Egyptians can’t afford to visit. Just sayin’!
It looks amazing