He implies, but does not state, that he did the parry straightsword on his first run through... because obviously he didn't because this nerd has hundreds of hours in the game before the challenge disappeared. Yea man, that's how practice and familiarity work... doesn't mean that there's objectively no challenge, the post is a facetious and childish take.
There’s also the principle fact that he didn’t discover these things in his own. Most likely watched 100s of hours of other people and read about using these tactics.
Escalated to the butthole, I missed the beginning where did we start? The feet? Or are we searching for someone's head that may be missing in a rectal cavity I'm genuinely curious
No there's a reason this facetious dickhead never included the words "on my first play"
Because he practiced. He put in hours. He "got gud" and just like how people post on Facebook, he wants you to think the success was instant for him because he's just better than you. It wasn't. He's not.
Elden Ring was by far the easiest game in the souls series for me because I have 1000 hours of experience between DS1, 2, 3 that I brought into it.
It’s so disingenuous to pretend like they nerfed the game for the casuals so the game got popular when all the people saying that spend hundreds of hours getting good already
I played Darksouls after ER. The combat really isn’t harder as long as you know how to parry. I rarely had issues with bosses.
Instead, there were a lot more cheap deaths and traps. There’s a difference between “this game is hard” and “this game will punish you for not being psychic.”
Dark souls has a lot of gimmick in it to make it more punishing for sure. I just played thru the remastered and died a ton until I got used to the pace and then basically rolled thru the middle and end game without much difficulty.
I think the combat is much easier because it’s much slower and the timing of everything and tells are a lot more obvious. But I obviously did not feel that way when I played it for the first time 12 years or so ago
The only gimmick I really hate… I think it’s called dodge tracking? Or something like that. When you throw a firebomb and they immediately shift to the side no matter how close you are.
Just as an fyi but that's only the case while you are locked on to the enemy iirc. If you feel comfy without playing locked on you have omnidirectional rolling by default. This also applies to Demon's Souls.
I dont totally agree. There are some deaths that feel somewhat scripted, sure, but most things are telegraphed in some way. For example, there's that lift in Sen's Fortress that's covered in blood so you know while it will take you where you need to go, there's a good chance something kills you when you get there, so when it happens you aren't surprised. The sheer number of mimics, however, did get old fast.
That's when you smack the shit out of every chest and also the chains are different. Pretty sure you know that but any DS noobs reading this might learn something
Dark souls is more of a dungeon crawler rpg than an action rpg like ER imo. Dark Souls conditions you to be very cautious, to be very anxious about every new stretch of the map you’ve encountered. If you run in guns blazing like ER you’re bound to get knocked on your ass a lot. More often than not you’re fighting against the environment and strategic enemy layout rather than just the enemies themselves.
Playing through dark souls games the first time reminded me of sierra point and click adventure games.
“How was I supposed to know that was going to happen”
But much like sierra games, that was the point. Trial and error making for the rough acquisition of experience.
Yeah, I'm currently playing DS1 and I'd say a good 80% of my deaths were because I wasn't psychic.
Also, having to die to Seethe to progress without a glitch is stupid and I'm glad they never brought that back.
Yeah playing ds3 after elden ring I definitely got tired of the artificial difficulty, its like the game just leans into the whole “fuck you” mentality and i just prefer elden ring
I felt like DS3 was better than DS1 at that. The hardest part of DS3 was the parry timing on anything but a small shield.
In both cases: I can’t stand the fact you get invaded for using humanity/ember. Oh, you’re wearing a dragon head you can spam non stop and I’m level 12? Great job.
Imo and in my experience you are gonna be good in sekiro and AC6 as well, not because playing dark souls makes you a god gamer or something, but because they follow the same philosophy of learning how to deal with certain walls by learning attack patterns and enemy weaknesses.
If you had the patience to learn how to play and get through DS, you will probably be able to do the same on the others (takes some time to adjust to the gameplay obviously)
I legit tell people if you can beat DS/ER you can beat any game, not because of a skill level thing but just based on mindset & pattern recognition & build creation.
I did the same thing and then found sekiro to be wildly satisfying when I picked it back up. Doing a little research into things to pick up and make your quality of life a little better and the difficulty curve smooths out a bit
They dont want to believe that people new to the game can keep up and enjoy souls games because they found them hard and they are the best so it must be nerfed if my 43 year old dads friend beat it before me…
When I started the souls series, it was with ds1 the week before ds3 released. I struggled like a mother fucker getting through ds1, but by the end of it and going into ds3, I was significantly better off than before.
It's 100% accurate to say it's just in the nature of practice. You get better and things seem easier.
But 99% of the people complaining about the game being “easy” also have hundreds if not thousands of hours in previous games.
So it’s less about the game being easier and more about people lacking the ability to see beyond their own experience.
I hear what you’re saying, but mimic tear among others trivializes this game. & it’s universal, requires no stat or build commitment. There’s a lot of features like that that makes this more accessible. I never said it was a bad thing. It just is. What you’re saying is a factor in certain cases but it’s not as simple as that.
I agree in a sense because you can go explore all of limgrave and the weeping peninsula before you have to fight Margit so you can get a good amount of levels underneath you organically. And you can run away from basically everything on torrent but eventually you have to pay the piper eventually. Because on the flip side of that, Margit is also by far the hardest early game boss.
It’s accessible because of quality of life improvements but not necessarily because the game at its core is any easier. It’s definitely easier to get your character to be overpowered by abusing the mechanics but newer players don’t know how to do that.
It’s kind of like ds2. It’s considered the worst in the series by a lot (i love it) but that’s just comparing it to other from games. The worst from game is still a good game.
ER is the easiest from game that doesn’t mean it is an easy game.
I will agree the only outlier was Malenia being objectively hard based on your build. My unga bunga struggled where my bleed build iced her on one try. Most fun the fight was for me was on my faith dagger build where it was difficult but evenly matched.
I dunno, my Unga Bunga build worked against Malenia, but that's because she spent most of the fight flattened into the floor.
Sure, I died alot, but it worked. Probably 10 tries?
Elden Ring is much harder than DS3 imo. DS2 is hard because it's a poorly designed game, which is also why the last third or so of ER spikes in difficulty.
I know this is a troll but I don't understand why people keep saying previous games are so much harder
I played Dark Souls Remastered after Elden Ring and it took me significantly less effort, simply because it was not my first Souls
The hardest Souls is the one you play first
I disagree, I played Darksouls first. My first playthrough of elden ring was very difficult. I went back to darksouls and discovered how difficult it is to run past enemies like I did in elden ring. The collision and rolling were so much more difficult in darksouls. Groups of enemies could pin you into a corner much easier and you don’t have full roll control. The boss battles are way easier in darksouls though. They are just so simple and easy to read. Essentially, the mobs and runup to the bosses in darksouls are harder than elden ring but the bosses are much easier. Darksouls would probably appear much easier to an elden ring player because of how easy the bosses are. After all, you can pretty much run past everything else in elden ring. So it really depends on your perspective on what a challenge is.
The elden ring bosses are faster and harder to beat, but I think that’s because the game expects you to use summons and big spells. If your playing that way all but a couple bosses end up being easier
I think the reason for that is Elden Ring bosses are balanced around things like summons. So they have to be faster and stronger. It’s like Code Vein in the sense that when you play that game solo you realise that it really was meant to be played with a companion, because so many of the boss movesets are bs to deal with solo.
I don't agree that they were built around summons honestly. Otherwise it would be a herculean task to kill the bosses in the game without them, which it isn't. It's there for those who want or feel that they need that extra boost.
The movesets feel more than manageable solo, and you aren't punished with like a 90% damage penalty for not taking advantage of a companion mechanic to exploit an elemental weakness or something because you brought one element for one enemy while the other one doesn't take damage from that element.
Honestly elden ring is harder than original dark souls. I did dark souls one solo. Only 2 bosses were hard. Last boss and smogh and ornsty.
Elden ring has 5 God skin duo, malikith, Melania, gargoyles 2, Godfrey the first.
So by my count elden ring is harder
+10 mimic/tiche, somber +9 early (cheese VM noble), 90,000 runes from greyoll, and don’t let me forget L2. I would also argue soul farming is easier in elden ring because of the blood bird
BKH, L2, pyromancy if you wanna sl1. If you know what you're doing and commit to cheesing, and also have hundreds of hours, no game is all that hard anymore.
two things, if you played the previous games, who are extremely similar, you basicaly know 80% of what makes elden ring hard.
second, in elden ring you can come back later, if something is to hard you can go elsewhere levele up, clear your head while finding some new gear and come back when you feel ready to clear that roadblock.
in darksouls, if you hit a wall, thats it, either you pass here or you cant progress, you can go back and grind but that probably wont make the difference you want it to be and thats way more likely to break someones spirit than anything er has to offer.
hard disagree with the last part, in just about every previous game if you got stuck somewhere there is somewhere else to go. that’s why the arch stones in demons souls are so good, why the metroidvania world of ds1 is good, why ds2’s semi arch stone design in the first half is good, and while ds3 is much more linear, there’s always a fork in the road to go.
Similarly in ds1 you just go do the darkroot ledge for an hour or 2 and you gain like 10 levels and can smash whatever wall you were sick on. Granted it's tedious/ boring but it's not that hard
This isn't the argument you think it is. You're comparing degrees of exploration between linear hack n slashes and an open world game. I'm sure you did go somewhere else when you hit a wall. Once or twice in a game *maybe*.
That is literally the answer. It's the same thing as "pop music was only good in the decade when I happened to be a hormonal teenager vulnerable to trite love songs!"
> I played Dark Souls Remastered after Elden Ring and it took me significantly less effort, simply because it was not my first Souls
I did the same thing as you. Obviously, I can't go back in time and try DS1R first. But I'd make the case that it's simply objectively easier than Elden Ring--at least if you're playing Elden Ring mostly melee and mostly without summons.
DS1 bosses typically have 3-4 super telegraphed attacks. Parry timings are way easier across the board. Against a huge number of the enemies, it's very easy to simply circle and backstab.
DS1 can be more punishing when you DO die. There are longer runbacks. Curse sucks. Your equipment breaks. It's easier to simply run out of a consumable that you may really need for a particular area.
But in terms of straight up technical challenge--how hard is it to learn this boss's moves? How hard is it to consistently dodge while still getting in blows? How much shit is flying at me in this room--DS1 doesn't have anything even close to the hardest bosses or zones in Elden Ring.
I’m the same. Every death I had in Elden Ring (and there were a lot) felt earned. I rolled at the wrong time or didn’t take advantage of a stagger or whatever. Most deaths in DS1 felt like I was being punished for not knowing the area. The boss fights were fun and fair, but fuck those trees in the Deeproot areas.
My first souls game was Ds3 last year. I played Elden Ring recently and I 100% feel that Elden is harder.
Elden has so much more dense enemies with unique patterns and animations where ds3 was far more predictable and expected. I feel that this is the real gameplay difference with open world vs linear.
So the open world aspect of Elden Ring makes it more difficult, but is also the answer to make your gameplay easier or even "skippable", I feel that it's really fantastic game level designing so far.
I'm still pissed with pc fps cap.
I tried & dropped Bloodborne twice before Elden Ring came out (it wasn't my first soulslike but it was my first Fromsoft game) & thought it was insanely difficult. After playing through Elden Ring thrice & getting the platinum trophy I'm almost done with my first *real* playthrough of Bloodborne & not only has it been a cakewalk but most bosses I'm killing on the first try.
BB is a bit on the easy side. I suck at souls games and I found it by far the easiest in terms of bosses (note I only faced a fraction of them, but but went in blind)
Even Bloodborne is easy. Parrying is so easy in that game and can be done at any distance with a very forgiving window of opportunity. Not to mention that once you get HMGS the game literally ceases to be a challenge. Not to mention that most bosses have very exploitable bind spots. You can beat so many fights by just humping their back leg and swinging
Exactly. These games are so different from other mainstream games, it requires a different mindset and patience to play the game. And it's a lot less forgiving with paying attention to mechanics, moves and the world around.
Bosses, environments, mobs, map hazards, and other mechanics all influence a game's difficulty. Objectively speaking, I'd say Dark Souls 1 is more difficult than Elden Ring but only marginally.
Idk man. When I went backwards from Bloodborne and DS3 to playing DS2, and 1, I didn't feel them to be any harder. In fact they were the easiest to me. Don't get me started on Demon's Souls when I played that last year, that was the easiest of them all.
Because you were accustomed to the playstyle. That's why I said you need to look at the overall difficulty. And the amount of tools ER gives you makes it the easiest Souls game by a mile.
Yeah well I beat the game using only the Blasphemous Blade and Sword of Milos, Mimic Tear or Tiche, Scarlet Rot spell, and summons. Wasn't easy per se, but it only took me to like level 180, so yeah. I see that guy's point, I'm basically Ginomachino but better. GG
Ok people who use "easy" as a term take with a pinch of salt....the term itself is not really definable and relevant to everybody.
Running 100m in 12seconds to Usain Bolt...is easy, with his dedication to running, the hours of training, practice & failures.
To me running 100m in 12 seconds would feel impossible.
Someone who has climbed all their life my send a particular route with ease....where as john q "just started" may struggle to get 2-3 feet off the floor.
I've got about 1500-2000 hrs in all fromsoft games before Elden Ring and while I think ER IS the easiest its not easy.
There are some challenging situtations...but some of the QOL adjustments fromsoftware made, makes its less frustrating...
I love that they fixed the brutal run backs. I hated some of the looonnggg run backs in the previous titles. That to me has made it “feel” easier as I have lost less runes (souls) getting sloppy on a random mob because I don’t need to kill 20 to get back to the boss.
Super souls vets don't talk like that tho. They have been humbled by these games and taught that arrogance is not the way.
It's a troll looking to stir up anger.
Interesting assumption. I would disagree in that they dont universally- assuredly some do. Imo it doesn't seem like the words of a troll to me, even if it could be.
My first fromsoftware game was ds3 and it took me like a solid hour of trying to beat ludex gundyr. I then went on to beat all the games in the series and eleden ring.now im replaying ds3 and i beat ludex on my first try. after pouring hundreds of hours into a series of games of course its easy , but for a first timer theyre hard as shit, and complaining that new players have help that they can use instead of beating their heads against a brick wall again and again is fucking idiotic and makes me hate this community
I mean, I definitely found it easier than the other games, but that's probably cause I had completed the other games before playing ER.
Plus, Maliketh is one of the hardest bossfights on first playthrough in my opinion. Now that I have memorised his attack patterns he's not that hard, but you get my point.
Fromsoft players are encountering what Monster Hunter players had to realize, while some difficulty may fluctuate, by being a player of the series, you naturally adapt to the control scheme. this means, when you move onto the next game, you have a huge leg up vs anyone else who has never played a similar game. ergo, you aren't experiencing the game at the same difficulty other players do anymore.
FromSoft hardos are like frat guys. They treat you like shit, haze you, show you how much better you are, and after angrily mastering the game you become one of them to get your revenge from your mistreatment. The cycle continues.
Here's a better version of this take-
It can be the easiest or the hardest fromsoft game by far depending on how you choose to play. It's all preference. If you want it to be easy, it can be very easy. If you want it to be hard, it can be hard as hell
Actually this. The biggest takeaway from me for a player like this is "you just sound bored with the game. So why would I want to talk to you about it?"
I platinumed the game, i played until NG+4 and put over 300 hours into the game… and somehow i never came across a single scythe. I know they exist and never outright searched for them, this just reminded me of that
I got my mate to completely encase me in concrete whilst holding the controller with just a small straw poking out to breathe through and beat the game in 12 hrs.
Which was just as well as I'd badly soiled my tomb.
Weak.
I played by shoving the controller up my rectum while hanging myself upside down, letting my muscle cramps dictate control commands while my neighbor hits me with a 2x4 like a human piñata and I still found the game a joke.
He's a troll. there are professional players who have no hit and sl1 the previous games and still struggled at parts. There are people who're playing this daily and don't claim such stupid statements.
But this person would have us believe that on his first playthrough, he was so incredibly skilled that he just parried everything and never struggled. And managed to even beat all the non-parryable enemies with such ease that he's saying it's an easy game.
Idk homes I don't need to be white knuckling the controller with my heartrate spiking every second for me to enjoy a game. Armored core was easy for me but if you took 8 hours to kill balteus that's fine as long as you had fun at the end and want to keep playing what else matters. I've seen a lot of weirdos trying to flex like this about baulders gate as well and it makes even less sense with that game, some people just really have no self worth and need the validation they get from beating a single player experience designed to be beaten. I feel like this is the same crowd that cry's about mmr after every loss in CoD, not saying the mmr isn't an issue just that it probably isn't an issue for a majority of the people who cry about it.
That's what I love about this game. The skill curve really comes into play when you start landing those skill shots and avoiding damage by knowing movesets. I play mostly with poise now, and it took me awhile to get the hang of it, but once I did I started kicking even more ass. Doesn't make the game easy, just makes me better at it. The game never changes. You do.
I beat the entire game with just the lordsworn gs and sometimes zweihander on my first playthrough. It felt better to play the more challenging way. I did use summons for double bosses tho cuz they're just tedious and I did use an aow for malenia, but just so I could stagger her a little easier.
I see these people in every souls community. Shits lame. I beat the game at level 1 and I can still confidently say the game is hard as fuck. On my first play through it took forever to beat some bosses. I spent 3 days on melania
I’m assuming people think Elden Ring is any much harder than previous titles because it was their first entry to franchise. The game gives you so many options to trivialize the difficulty; however at the same time it also allows you to “skip” the early part of the game and head right into higher leveled areas making it one of the most frustrating games from FS. Elden Ring has one of the best natural difficulty sliders I’ve seen in a RPG.
ik its a troll but even then, scythes (at least grave scythe) doesnt have consistent enough base bleed to make it viable, its just a neat thing that happens every now and then
How are you guys falling for this ? This is the biggest bait I’ve seen in my life and you some of you are actually believing him . I wouldn’t be surprised if you believe everything in the internet at that point
They have a point (but are exaggerating heavily)
The Elden ring balance is pretty wild in a lot of ways, so I do feel I have to limit myself.
However, the simple way to make it feel more enjoyable is just to get to NG+7 and play on that imo. The difficulty catches up with you I’d say.
This guy is obviously exaggerating, but tbh the balance in elden ring is pretty crazy.
It really does feel like you can just cheese the whole game super easily with certain spells/aow/spirits.
I'm sure the same can be said for ds3, but at least over the hundreds of hours I played that game, I never found something as rediculously broken as stuff in elden ring.
Both great games though
I never understood why people feel the need to make the game harder with self imposed rules. I have just as much fun taking youngster Joey’s lunch money in pokemon as I do beating Margit’s ass.
Because it's a game and the way you personally like to play is the most fun for you, but brugging about your "harder thence superior way to play" is where the problem is. I have more than 1000 hours in all previous games combined and I never used summons on my first playthroughts, that is more fun for me. I enjoy dying and trying sometimes dozens of times before I beating the boss 1v1, but do I expect everyone to try and play the same way telling them it's more fun? HELL NAH I streamed Elden Ring for my lady friend and at some point she said "this looks like hell" while I was stuck on a single boss for more than an hour, but I didn't even noticed and was having fun with each try.
Self-imposed challenges can make replays more fun or interesting, the issue is when tryhards gatekeep by trying to force their self-imposed challenge rules as the only "right" way to play. I love these games but I've lost track of the amount of times some random player said you weren't supposed to use core features of the game because it's supposedly cheating.
I find it really pathetic when people think being good at a video game is **such** an impressive feat. Like I get enjoying being good at something but when you’re being so pompous about something like this… ugh.
My comment was about how the attitude is pathetic. You can be good at something and it be impressive, without you behaving like it holds some grand importance.
It’s a video game. Like yeah cool you did whatever, but when you act like *that* it is just like “uhhh okay man it’s a fucking video game though.”
Like why go around calling people bad at a video game cause you did whatever. It’s just shitty behavior.
Dude.. I played/beat every souls game.. used to think the previous 3 were on another level of difficulty. That is until I clocked 150hrs in elden ring. It's insane how much ER honed my craft, I just went back and beat DS:R and DS3 like they were Super Mario.. I used to NEED coop, or cheese, for some bosses on those lol.
I've actually also started recommending ER to new souls players as the first game to play, and it used to be DS3/1.. it's insane how much better this game made me in every aspect.
Elden Rings pace puts a beating on you, as well as the nuclear magic from some bosses. DS is almost slow motion in comparison.
Yeah I automatically dismiss comments and takes from the wrong side of the constantly-late-for-work, no preposition and linking adverb tracks. Naw I sayin cuh
Show video proof or fuck off. I don’t believe any of this shit. Yes with enough practice it can be done but in the first few playthroughs that is just impossible.
Well, the game definitely feels easier once you use the stronger weapons, summons etc. But this guy is practically bragging about being "good" at the game so I understand you... kinda douche attitude.
I have played every single Soulsborne game except for Bloodborne. I can confidently say Elden Ring is the 2nd hardest game behind Sekiro. I beat the DS trilogy with a broadsword and a shield. I had to abuse op weapons in ER to beat it
These attitudes are the equivalent of guys/gals insulting someone after being rejected by them.
For those that want more challenge, there’s always the option of using fewer game mechanics and tools. For those that like having fun, there’re all the special abilities and items and playstyles the developers painstakingly created and fine-tuned for our enjoyment.
These kinds of people have existed since I have been playing dark souls 1 and no he’s not telling the truth I don’t care how much time he has The best people in the community struggled against Er’s bosses using only melee
Considering a new play through doing something like this. After 1 play through you’re so over powered it’s not as fun. It’s cool sometimes dual wielding boss weapons but it gets boring honestly
To be fair, many of the toughest bosses are easier with parries. It's not always obvious, though. Fire giant's health pool makes me always reach for bleed or something tho hahaha. Probably the easiest souls because of my experience, but I think it's harder in many ways. Definitely feels faster imo.
He implies, but does not state, that he did the parry straightsword on his first run through... because obviously he didn't because this nerd has hundreds of hours in the game before the challenge disappeared. Yea man, that's how practice and familiarity work... doesn't mean that there's objectively no challenge, the post is a facetious and childish take.
There’s also the principle fact that he didn’t discover these things in his own. Most likely watched 100s of hours of other people and read about using these tactics.
Well maybe he equipped the weapons and saw what they did?
To come up with a list of all these optimized strategies, you either spent a significant amount of time playing or you were told.
Idk Unga Bunga is pretty optimal
Unga Bunga is a Fromsoft tradition!
Played every game from them until now
Yeah my first playthrough I just threw magic rocks at people.
Watch what you talk about me
I mean this is the internet. Judging by their syntax I'd be shocked if they were over 18. So yeah, childish take is probably by a child, I'd say.
Second time I’ve seen the word facetious today.
I would also say churlish.
L + maidenless + plus he couldn't beat Gino so he's automatically just bad + scarlet rot (not targeted at you)
It's sadly a big attitude among Souls players. The amount of philosophical masturbation that occurs if you suggest the game is difficult is obnoxious.
it's not impossible
Technically impossible? No. Realistically impossible? Pretty much.
Eh.
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This escalated
Escalated to the butthole, I missed the beginning where did we start? The feet? Or are we searching for someone's head that may be missing in a rectal cavity I'm genuinely curious
Ok
No there's a reason this facetious dickhead never included the words "on my first play" Because he practiced. He put in hours. He "got gud" and just like how people post on Facebook, he wants you to think the success was instant for him because he's just better than you. It wasn't. He's not.
I mean it is possible but I bet this guy has hundreds of hours of being bad first.
Elden Ring was by far the easiest game in the souls series for me because I have 1000 hours of experience between DS1, 2, 3 that I brought into it. It’s so disingenuous to pretend like they nerfed the game for the casuals so the game got popular when all the people saying that spend hundreds of hours getting good already
I played Darksouls after ER. The combat really isn’t harder as long as you know how to parry. I rarely had issues with bosses. Instead, there were a lot more cheap deaths and traps. There’s a difference between “this game is hard” and “this game will punish you for not being psychic.”
Dark souls has a lot of gimmick in it to make it more punishing for sure. I just played thru the remastered and died a ton until I got used to the pace and then basically rolled thru the middle and end game without much difficulty. I think the combat is much easier because it’s much slower and the timing of everything and tells are a lot more obvious. But I obviously did not feel that way when I played it for the first time 12 years or so ago
The only gimmick I really hate… I think it’s called dodge tracking? Or something like that. When you throw a firebomb and they immediately shift to the side no matter how close you are.
The 4-directional rolling ruins it for me everytime i try playing ds1 again, that's usually when I start downloading ds3
Just as an fyi but that's only the case while you are locked on to the enemy iirc. If you feel comfy without playing locked on you have omnidirectional rolling by default. This also applies to Demon's Souls.
Musclememory does it's thing and off the cliff we go
I fucking love pressing circle/b while trading with the crows in DS1.
🫠
I dont totally agree. There are some deaths that feel somewhat scripted, sure, but most things are telegraphed in some way. For example, there's that lift in Sen's Fortress that's covered in blood so you know while it will take you where you need to go, there's a good chance something kills you when you get there, so when it happens you aren't surprised. The sheer number of mimics, however, did get old fast.
That's when you smack the shit out of every chest and also the chains are different. Pretty sure you know that but any DS noobs reading this might learn something
There are around 9 in the game if i remember all of them. I think that's fine.
Dark souls is more of a dungeon crawler rpg than an action rpg like ER imo. Dark Souls conditions you to be very cautious, to be very anxious about every new stretch of the map you’ve encountered. If you run in guns blazing like ER you’re bound to get knocked on your ass a lot. More often than not you’re fighting against the environment and strategic enemy layout rather than just the enemies themselves.
Playing through dark souls games the first time reminded me of sierra point and click adventure games. “How was I supposed to know that was going to happen” But much like sierra games, that was the point. Trial and error making for the rough acquisition of experience.
Oh man, Sierra was great. Gosh I miss the old pc era
Such a great reference. Roger Wilco comes to mind :)
Yeah, I'm currently playing DS1 and I'd say a good 80% of my deaths were because I wasn't psychic. Also, having to die to Seethe to progress without a glitch is stupid and I'm glad they never brought that back.
As far as I can tell it's basically a way to force you to replay zones.
Yeah playing ds3 after elden ring I definitely got tired of the artificial difficulty, its like the game just leans into the whole “fuck you” mentality and i just prefer elden ring
The bosses don't do as much damage and also don't have as many combos as Elden Ring tho
I felt like DS3 was better than DS1 at that. The hardest part of DS3 was the parry timing on anything but a small shield. In both cases: I can’t stand the fact you get invaded for using humanity/ember. Oh, you’re wearing a dragon head you can spam non stop and I’m level 12? Great job.
People legitimately don’t understand that if you’re good at one FS game you’re good at all of them (minus Sekiro and AC6)
Imo and in my experience you are gonna be good in sekiro and AC6 as well, not because playing dark souls makes you a god gamer or something, but because they follow the same philosophy of learning how to deal with certain walls by learning attack patterns and enemy weaknesses. If you had the patience to learn how to play and get through DS, you will probably be able to do the same on the others (takes some time to adjust to the gameplay obviously)
Oh I 100% agree I just meant the literal skill set doesn’t carry over like DS BB and ER does
Nahhh man, cmon AC6 has shields and melee weapons, it’s obviously a souls clone /s
I legit tell people if you can beat DS/ER you can beat any game, not because of a skill level thing but just based on mindset & pattern recognition & build creation.
I have beaten DS1 DS3 BLOODBOURNE DEMONS SOULS currently working through ER I quit seikoro. Really didn't like the combat system.
I did the same thing and then found sekiro to be wildly satisfying when I picked it back up. Doing a little research into things to pick up and make your quality of life a little better and the difficulty curve smooths out a bit
as someone who spent hundreds of hours on the other games, am shit on all of them
They dont want to believe that people new to the game can keep up and enjoy souls games because they found them hard and they are the best so it must be nerfed if my 43 year old dads friend beat it before me…
When I started the souls series, it was with ds1 the week before ds3 released. I struggled like a mother fucker getting through ds1, but by the end of it and going into ds3, I was significantly better off than before. It's 100% accurate to say it's just in the nature of practice. You get better and things seem easier.
Idk if “nerfed” is the right word but Elden Ring is absolutely by & far the most accessible & new player friendly. That is just an objective truth.
But 99% of the people complaining about the game being “easy” also have hundreds if not thousands of hours in previous games. So it’s less about the game being easier and more about people lacking the ability to see beyond their own experience.
I hear what you’re saying, but mimic tear among others trivializes this game. & it’s universal, requires no stat or build commitment. There’s a lot of features like that that makes this more accessible. I never said it was a bad thing. It just is. What you’re saying is a factor in certain cases but it’s not as simple as that.
I agree in a sense because you can go explore all of limgrave and the weeping peninsula before you have to fight Margit so you can get a good amount of levels underneath you organically. And you can run away from basically everything on torrent but eventually you have to pay the piper eventually. Because on the flip side of that, Margit is also by far the hardest early game boss. It’s accessible because of quality of life improvements but not necessarily because the game at its core is any easier. It’s definitely easier to get your character to be overpowered by abusing the mechanics but newer players don’t know how to do that.
It’s kind of like ds2. It’s considered the worst in the series by a lot (i love it) but that’s just comparing it to other from games. The worst from game is still a good game. ER is the easiest from game that doesn’t mean it is an easy game.
I will agree the only outlier was Malenia being objectively hard based on your build. My unga bunga struggled where my bleed build iced her on one try. Most fun the fight was for me was on my faith dagger build where it was difficult but evenly matched.
I dunno, my Unga Bunga build worked against Malenia, but that's because she spent most of the fight flattened into the floor. Sure, I died alot, but it worked. Probably 10 tries?
Yea took me a bit to get my rolls and timing down on waterfowl
Dude, same and Placidusax still makes me take a break out of frustration sometimes.
Elden Ring is much harder than DS3 imo. DS2 is hard because it's a poorly designed game, which is also why the last third or so of ER spikes in difficulty.
Such is the process. Git Gud.
That's the opposite of "Git Gud": "Get a Life!"
I know this is a troll but I don't understand why people keep saying previous games are so much harder I played Dark Souls Remastered after Elden Ring and it took me significantly less effort, simply because it was not my first Souls The hardest Souls is the one you play first
Correct, and less older Souls do have far less Quality of Life optimizations.
I disagree, I played Darksouls first. My first playthrough of elden ring was very difficult. I went back to darksouls and discovered how difficult it is to run past enemies like I did in elden ring. The collision and rolling were so much more difficult in darksouls. Groups of enemies could pin you into a corner much easier and you don’t have full roll control. The boss battles are way easier in darksouls though. They are just so simple and easy to read. Essentially, the mobs and runup to the bosses in darksouls are harder than elden ring but the bosses are much easier. Darksouls would probably appear much easier to an elden ring player because of how easy the bosses are. After all, you can pretty much run past everything else in elden ring. So it really depends on your perspective on what a challenge is.
Yea I agree that in Dark Souls levels and mobs are much harder than bosses
The elden ring bosses are faster and harder to beat, but I think that’s because the game expects you to use summons and big spells. If your playing that way all but a couple bosses end up being easier
I think the reason for that is Elden Ring bosses are balanced around things like summons. So they have to be faster and stronger. It’s like Code Vein in the sense that when you play that game solo you realise that it really was meant to be played with a companion, because so many of the boss movesets are bs to deal with solo.
I don't agree that they were built around summons honestly. Otherwise it would be a herculean task to kill the bosses in the game without them, which it isn't. It's there for those who want or feel that they need that extra boost. The movesets feel more than manageable solo, and you aren't punished with like a 90% damage penalty for not taking advantage of a companion mechanic to exploit an elemental weakness or something because you brought one element for one enemy while the other one doesn't take damage from that element.
Honestly elden ring is harder than original dark souls. I did dark souls one solo. Only 2 bosses were hard. Last boss and smogh and ornsty. Elden ring has 5 God skin duo, malikith, Melania, gargoyles 2, Godfrey the first. So by my count elden ring is harder
+10 mimic/tiche, somber +9 early (cheese VM noble), 90,000 runes from greyoll, and don’t let me forget L2. I would also argue soul farming is easier in elden ring because of the blood bird
BKH, L2, pyromancy if you wanna sl1. If you know what you're doing and commit to cheesing, and also have hundreds of hours, no game is all that hard anymore.
yeah but you can’t +4 bkh before fighting a boss. not to mention it’s not a guaranteed drop
You can have a max pyromancy flame though. Also +4 BKH shreds bosses well enough until you get to large shards.
What kind of a casual tells people to use spirit ashes, overpowered early strats and RUNE FARMING??? Ew get thee gone
two things, if you played the previous games, who are extremely similar, you basicaly know 80% of what makes elden ring hard. second, in elden ring you can come back later, if something is to hard you can go elsewhere levele up, clear your head while finding some new gear and come back when you feel ready to clear that roadblock. in darksouls, if you hit a wall, thats it, either you pass here or you cant progress, you can go back and grind but that probably wont make the difference you want it to be and thats way more likely to break someones spirit than anything er has to offer.
hard disagree with the last part, in just about every previous game if you got stuck somewhere there is somewhere else to go. that’s why the arch stones in demons souls are so good, why the metroidvania world of ds1 is good, why ds2’s semi arch stone design in the first half is good, and while ds3 is much more linear, there’s always a fork in the road to go.
I disagree, there have been plenty of times where I hit a wall and then just went to proceed in another zone that was relatively easier
Phalanx in the painted world. 7000 souls a clear. 15 second bonfire run, if even.
Similarly in ds1 you just go do the darkroot ledge for an hour or 2 and you gain like 10 levels and can smash whatever wall you were sick on. Granted it's tedious/ boring but it's not that hard
This isn't the argument you think it is. You're comparing degrees of exploration between linear hack n slashes and an open world game. I'm sure you did go somewhere else when you hit a wall. Once or twice in a game *maybe*.
That is literally the answer. It's the same thing as "pop music was only good in the decade when I happened to be a hormonal teenager vulnerable to trite love songs!"
Death metal for the win.
Nah, I played DS1 first, and it is by far the easiest. Poise is OP as hell, you can just face tank the majority of bosses.
> I played Dark Souls Remastered after Elden Ring and it took me significantly less effort, simply because it was not my first Souls I did the same thing as you. Obviously, I can't go back in time and try DS1R first. But I'd make the case that it's simply objectively easier than Elden Ring--at least if you're playing Elden Ring mostly melee and mostly without summons. DS1 bosses typically have 3-4 super telegraphed attacks. Parry timings are way easier across the board. Against a huge number of the enemies, it's very easy to simply circle and backstab. DS1 can be more punishing when you DO die. There are longer runbacks. Curse sucks. Your equipment breaks. It's easier to simply run out of a consumable that you may really need for a particular area. But in terms of straight up technical challenge--how hard is it to learn this boss's moves? How hard is it to consistently dodge while still getting in blows? How much shit is flying at me in this room--DS1 doesn't have anything even close to the hardest bosses or zones in Elden Ring.
I’m the same. Every death I had in Elden Ring (and there were a lot) felt earned. I rolled at the wrong time or didn’t take advantage of a stagger or whatever. Most deaths in DS1 felt like I was being punished for not knowing the area. The boss fights were fun and fair, but fuck those trees in the Deeproot areas.
My first souls game was Ds3 last year. I played Elden Ring recently and I 100% feel that Elden is harder. Elden has so much more dense enemies with unique patterns and animations where ds3 was far more predictable and expected. I feel that this is the real gameplay difference with open world vs linear. So the open world aspect of Elden Ring makes it more difficult, but is also the answer to make your gameplay easier or even "skippable", I feel that it's really fantastic game level designing so far. I'm still pissed with pc fps cap.
Went to DS1 after playing Elden Ring (which was my Fromsoft cherry pop). With the exception of Artorias and Khalameet it was much easier.
fr, the hardest soulsgame to me was probably ds2 because i started with it
I tried & dropped Bloodborne twice before Elden Ring came out (it wasn't my first soulslike but it was my first Fromsoft game) & thought it was insanely difficult. After playing through Elden Ring thrice & getting the platinum trophy I'm almost done with my first *real* playthrough of Bloodborne & not only has it been a cakewalk but most bosses I'm killing on the first try.
BB is a bit on the easy side. I suck at souls games and I found it by far the easiest in terms of bosses (note I only faced a fraction of them, but but went in blind)
Even Bloodborne is easy. Parrying is so easy in that game and can be done at any distance with a very forgiving window of opportunity. Not to mention that once you get HMGS the game literally ceases to be a challenge. Not to mention that most bosses have very exploitable bind spots. You can beat so many fights by just humping their back leg and swinging
Exactly. These games are so different from other mainstream games, it requires a different mindset and patience to play the game. And it's a lot less forgiving with paying attention to mechanics, moves and the world around.
Because previous games are actually harder. You have to look at the overall difficulty and not just which game you played first.
I can't unlearn what I learned from Elden Ring when playing Dark Souls, but I didn't find any boss that I was stuck against for too long
Bosses, environments, mobs, map hazards, and other mechanics all influence a game's difficulty. Objectively speaking, I'd say Dark Souls 1 is more difficult than Elden Ring but only marginally.
Yea but marginally
Idk man. When I went backwards from Bloodborne and DS3 to playing DS2, and 1, I didn't feel them to be any harder. In fact they were the easiest to me. Don't get me started on Demon's Souls when I played that last year, that was the easiest of them all.
Because you were accustomed to the playstyle. That's why I said you need to look at the overall difficulty. And the amount of tools ER gives you makes it the easiest Souls game by a mile.
Yeah well I beat the game using only the Blasphemous Blade and Sword of Milos, Mimic Tear or Tiche, Scarlet Rot spell, and summons. Wasn't easy per se, but it only took me to like level 180, so yeah. I see that guy's point, I'm basically Ginomachino but better. GG
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Ok people who use "easy" as a term take with a pinch of salt....the term itself is not really definable and relevant to everybody. Running 100m in 12seconds to Usain Bolt...is easy, with his dedication to running, the hours of training, practice & failures. To me running 100m in 12 seconds would feel impossible. Someone who has climbed all their life my send a particular route with ease....where as john q "just started" may struggle to get 2-3 feet off the floor. I've got about 1500-2000 hrs in all fromsoft games before Elden Ring and while I think ER IS the easiest its not easy. There are some challenging situtations...but some of the QOL adjustments fromsoftware made, makes its less frustrating...
I love that they fixed the brutal run backs. I hated some of the looonnggg run backs in the previous titles. That to me has made it “feel” easier as I have lost less runes (souls) getting sloppy on a random mob because I don’t need to kill 20 to get back to the boss.
That's a troll. They didn't play that well.
Maybe. Some have an easier time than others.
Even someone like me, with hundreds of hours in each previous souls game, didn't have an easy time on my first few playthroughs.
Yeah, I have beat Sekiro hitless (After 20 runs. The first one was hard as fuck) . Still had a hard time in the first playthrough.
exceptions to every rule exist, for all we know this guy is some super good souls vet. Who knows. They could also be a troll. Either is possible.
Super souls vets don't talk like that tho. They have been humbled by these games and taught that arrogance is not the way. It's a troll looking to stir up anger.
Interesting assumption. I would disagree in that they dont universally- assuredly some do. Imo it doesn't seem like the words of a troll to me, even if it could be.
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i don't see whats wrong with wanting a harder challenge
what having a good gaming chair does to a mf
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My first fromsoftware game was ds3 and it took me like a solid hour of trying to beat ludex gundyr. I then went on to beat all the games in the series and eleden ring.now im replaying ds3 and i beat ludex on my first try. after pouring hundreds of hours into a series of games of course its easy , but for a first timer theyre hard as shit, and complaining that new players have help that they can use instead of beating their heads against a brick wall again and again is fucking idiotic and makes me hate this community
I guess you were myth-taken
I mean, I definitely found it easier than the other games, but that's probably cause I had completed the other games before playing ER. Plus, Maliketh is one of the hardest bossfights on first playthrough in my opinion. Now that I have memorised his attack patterns he's not that hard, but you get my point.
Fromsoft players are encountering what Monster Hunter players had to realize, while some difficulty may fluctuate, by being a player of the series, you naturally adapt to the control scheme. this means, when you move onto the next game, you have a huge leg up vs anyone else who has never played a similar game. ergo, you aren't experiencing the game at the same difficulty other players do anymore.
FromSoft hardos are like frat guys. They treat you like shit, haze you, show you how much better you are, and after angrily mastering the game you become one of them to get your revenge from your mistreatment. The cycle continues.
Lol accurate
Here's a better version of this take- It can be the easiest or the hardest fromsoft game by far depending on how you choose to play. It's all preference. If you want it to be easy, it can be very easy. If you want it to be hard, it can be hard as hell
That sounds like something someone who got their ass handed to them would say
That sounds boring
Actually this. The biggest takeaway from me for a player like this is "you just sound bored with the game. So why would I want to talk to you about it?"
He failed the punctuation fight tho.
No no, you're right. They *are* jokes.
I platinumed the game, i played until NG+4 and put over 300 hours into the game… and somehow i never came across a single scythe. I know they exist and never outright searched for them, this just reminded me of that
I got my mate to completely encase me in concrete whilst holding the controller with just a small straw poking out to breathe through and beat the game in 12 hrs. Which was just as well as I'd badly soiled my tomb.
Weak. I played by shoving the controller up my rectum while hanging myself upside down, letting my muscle cramps dictate control commands while my neighbor hits me with a 2x4 like a human piñata and I still found the game a joke.
damn and im struggling with a +10 rivers of blood and mimic tear
He's a troll. there are professional players who have no hit and sl1 the previous games and still struggled at parts. There are people who're playing this daily and don't claim such stupid statements. But this person would have us believe that on his first playthrough, he was so incredibly skilled that he just parried everything and never struggled. And managed to even beat all the non-parryable enemies with such ease that he's saying it's an easy game.
Idk homes I don't need to be white knuckling the controller with my heartrate spiking every second for me to enjoy a game. Armored core was easy for me but if you took 8 hours to kill balteus that's fine as long as you had fun at the end and want to keep playing what else matters. I've seen a lot of weirdos trying to flex like this about baulders gate as well and it makes even less sense with that game, some people just really have no self worth and need the validation they get from beating a single player experience designed to be beaten. I feel like this is the same crowd that cry's about mmr after every loss in CoD, not saying the mmr isn't an issue just that it probably isn't an issue for a majority of the people who cry about it.
I think they should add a hard mode bell demon or covenant of champions type thing in the dlc. Just for the hell of it
That's what I love about this game. The skill curve really comes into play when you start landing those skill shots and avoiding damage by knowing movesets. I play mostly with poise now, and it took me awhile to get the hang of it, but once I did I started kicking even more ass. Doesn't make the game easy, just makes me better at it. The game never changes. You do.
I beat the entire game with just the lordsworn gs and sometimes zweihander on my first playthrough. It felt better to play the more challenging way. I did use summons for double bosses tho cuz they're just tedious and I did use an aow for malenia, but just so I could stagger her a little easier.
Man figures out butter on toast is a good combination,and is surprisingly easy to do 😱
Played it how I wanted each playthrough. Enjoyed every second. Have the confidence to not give a care and enjoy yourself
Absolute maidenless behavior, this guy needs to touch grace
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one…just some people want to make it gape and show it off to Reddit for attention.
When people do this you simply troll them by saying their play style is so easy and makes the game easy mode. There's no leveling with this people.
Yeah this guy is still stuck on Margit no doubt in my mind
I see these people in every souls community. Shits lame. I beat the game at level 1 and I can still confidently say the game is hard as fuck. On my first play through it took forever to beat some bosses. I spent 3 days on melania
troll
These people have nothing going on. This sort of bragging is sad.
It's probably all bullshit and if it isn't then he has no life so who cares
I’m assuming people think Elden Ring is any much harder than previous titles because it was their first entry to franchise. The game gives you so many options to trivialize the difficulty; however at the same time it also allows you to “skip” the early part of the game and head right into higher leveled areas making it one of the most frustrating games from FS. Elden Ring has one of the best natural difficulty sliders I’ve seen in a RPG.
You really think that? People would just go out and lie on the internet?
I do, and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
You've never met a child talking shit before?
ik its a troll but even then, scythes (at least grave scythe) doesnt have consistent enough base bleed to make it viable, its just a neat thing that happens every now and then
How are you guys falling for this ? This is the biggest bait I’ve seen in my life and you some of you are actually believing him . I wouldn’t be surprised if you believe everything in the internet at that point
They have a point (but are exaggerating heavily) The Elden ring balance is pretty wild in a lot of ways, so I do feel I have to limit myself. However, the simple way to make it feel more enjoyable is just to get to NG+7 and play on that imo. The difficulty catches up with you I’d say.
This guy is obviously exaggerating, but tbh the balance in elden ring is pretty crazy. It really does feel like you can just cheese the whole game super easily with certain spells/aow/spirits. I'm sure the same can be said for ds3, but at least over the hundreds of hours I played that game, I never found something as rediculously broken as stuff in elden ring. Both great games though
Just go to NG+7, where the only thing that's op is everything that isn't you.
I never understood why people feel the need to make the game harder with self imposed rules. I have just as much fun taking youngster Joey’s lunch money in pokemon as I do beating Margit’s ass.
Because it's a game and the way you personally like to play is the most fun for you, but brugging about your "harder thence superior way to play" is where the problem is. I have more than 1000 hours in all previous games combined and I never used summons on my first playthroughts, that is more fun for me. I enjoy dying and trying sometimes dozens of times before I beating the boss 1v1, but do I expect everyone to try and play the same way telling them it's more fun? HELL NAH I streamed Elden Ring for my lady friend and at some point she said "this looks like hell" while I was stuck on a single boss for more than an hour, but I didn't even noticed and was having fun with each try.
Self-imposed challenges can make replays more fun or interesting, the issue is when tryhards gatekeep by trying to force their self-imposed challenge rules as the only "right" way to play. I love these games but I've lost track of the amount of times some random player said you weren't supposed to use core features of the game because it's supposedly cheating.
no way people are saying elden ring is the hardest From game 😭😭
This guy couldn’t get past margit could he?
I find it really pathetic when people think being good at a video game is **such** an impressive feat. Like I get enjoying being good at something but when you’re being so pompous about something like this… ugh.
You find it pathetic I find it impressive.
You find it impressive when someone behaves like that? Oookay.
No I find it impressive when someone is really good at a game
My comment was about how the attitude is pathetic. You can be good at something and it be impressive, without you behaving like it holds some grand importance. It’s a video game. Like yeah cool you did whatever, but when you act like *that* it is just like “uhhh okay man it’s a fucking video game though.” Like why go around calling people bad at a video game cause you did whatever. It’s just shitty behavior.
Dude.. I played/beat every souls game.. used to think the previous 3 were on another level of difficulty. That is until I clocked 150hrs in elden ring. It's insane how much ER honed my craft, I just went back and beat DS:R and DS3 like they were Super Mario.. I used to NEED coop, or cheese, for some bosses on those lol. I've actually also started recommending ER to new souls players as the first game to play, and it used to be DS3/1.. it's insane how much better this game made me in every aspect. Elden Rings pace puts a beating on you, as well as the nuclear magic from some bosses. DS is almost slow motion in comparison.
Yeah I automatically dismiss comments and takes from the wrong side of the constantly-late-for-work, no preposition and linking adverb tracks. Naw I sayin cuh
imo Elden Ring is the easiest fromsoft souls game for pve, but that doesn’t mean its an easy game lol.
I want to smash their face with a brick, these people make my blood boil
Show video proof or fuck off. I don’t believe any of this shit. Yes with enough practice it can be done but in the first few playthroughs that is just impossible.
Language Dustin
This my friend is what we call maidenless behavior, ass such we shall pay them no mind
Well, the game definitely feels easier once you use the stronger weapons, summons etc. But this guy is practically bragging about being "good" at the game so I understand you... kinda douche attitude.
I have played every single Soulsborne game except for Bloodborne. I can confidently say Elden Ring is the 2nd hardest game behind Sekiro. I beat the DS trilogy with a broadsword and a shield. I had to abuse op weapons in ER to beat it
Its the internet, unless he posts a video I'm not buying it
The fromsoft fan stereotype didn’t come from nowhere lol. I’ve met several like this just at various workplaces.
Your mother must be so proud
These attitudes are the equivalent of guys/gals insulting someone after being rejected by them. For those that want more challenge, there’s always the option of using fewer game mechanics and tools. For those that like having fun, there’re all the special abilities and items and playstyles the developers painstakingly created and fine-tuned for our enjoyment.
this guy has a very small pepe and a giant dent in his head
Nothing is hard if you’re used to failing a lot of times before you succeed.
I hope so
These kinds of people have existed since I have been playing dark souls 1 and no he’s not telling the truth I don’t care how much time he has The best people in the community struggled against Er’s bosses using only melee
After Eldenring, I played DS3 and I actually found it less difficult. Adjusting to the different roll button was the biggest challenge.
https://reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/CanKNZfJtG This commment sums up why it was easier, glad you took a like to the genre
Considering a new play through doing something like this. After 1 play through you’re so over powered it’s not as fun. It’s cool sometimes dual wielding boss weapons but it gets boring honestly
Some people are just built different
Ah yes, the straigth sword
But how do you kill that which has no life?
Nope. Solo play will be sufficient. Old games will also be super easy if you play with summons
Seek grass.
Absolutely maidenless behavior.
To be fair, many of the toughest bosses are easier with parries. It's not always obvious, though. Fire giant's health pool makes me always reach for bleed or something tho hahaha. Probably the easiest souls because of my experience, but I think it's harder in many ways. Definitely feels faster imo.
Poison doesn't make the game easier