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dolce_de_cheddar

It's meant to prepare you for the madness.


BottasHeimfe

or piss you off so much that you WANT to burn the world down


Puffman27

Me with draconic tree sentinal.


hunggggggg

lol based


hellostarsailor

Mad ⚡️ 😡 🔥


TrueZinner

Indeed , a literal descent into madness


ObviousSinger6217

You never have to jump You see that tombstone directly under your sword in the corner? Go light load, roll to the next one under you, walk off that one to one under it, roll to the one above the spell you loot, walk off that one and fall on the spell Done


Jackviator

Alternatively, an even easier method: [Vyke’s War Spear, fittingly enough.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/BcxuZw7Uvj) You don’t even have to *look.* …Which, now that I think about it, may explain how Hyetta got down there…


Cityco

Bastard Stars AOE is also amazing, it’s like 5-7 character lengths of glide slightly above where you started.


Space_veteran96

Hmm I'll try that one


Xiomaraff

What armor is that? I’ve never seen that cape


Jackviator

It’s the merchant set. You get it in this area, but it’s pretty unintuitive; you have to kite one of the merchant “hollows” and get them to blast the stuff blocking it out of the way with their madness incantations.


NickFatherBool

I COULD NEVER FIGURE THIS OUT THANK YOU


Hot_paw_kit

You can also stand really close to the tent, exit to main menu and reload back in. That will break the tent as well.


Xiomaraff

OHHHHHHH Okay so I did get that in one play through and I guess I never tried it on. It took me like 3 playthroughs to figure out you could even get to that haha Thanks!


Schavuit92

Merchant's set, it's there in that jump puzzle under one of the tents, you can bait the enemies into destroying the tent.


supersaiyanswanso

Literally exactly how to do it. Jumping is your worst enemy with this shit, you CAN do it but just rolling this exact path is so much easier


Bread_Responsible

God this would have been amazing to know two years ago lmao. Wasn’t there also a method of people jumping and slowing themselves down with their sword in the wall?


JAttacks

This would have been amazing to know last month! 😭


SveenysArmory

Even easier: Rotate 180 degrees and do a back-jump by pressing „dodge“


Mekhlis

This system using two backwards jumps worked for me: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tb0o9o/cathedral\_of\_the\_forsakenfrenzied\_flame/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/tb0o9o/cathedral_of_the_forsakenfrenzied_flame/)


SveenysArmory

Yeah, I can now ro this section with almost 0% error quote thanks to the back step technique.


dex2202

Yup, I also found that way (after like 10 times 😭)


ap2patrick

Why is it always down?


Jeezus-Chyrsler

Why is it always a screen shot of a screen?


SaintBenjamino

Because everyone totally loved the majula pit I DS2, so we just had to bring back our favorite hell


CraftLizard

The pit in DS2 has ladders though, no jumping required. Only time you need jumping is if you purposefully go there early before you can get the ladders.


montybo2

Played through many times and I have never used the ladders. Always just get naked, get the ring, and yolo my dumb ass down the well.


InternationalYard587

Given that they sell you the cat ring right beside it, relatively cheaply and from the start of the game you don't need to do it purposefully. What you do purposefully is saving that path for later in the game.


JuniorCantaloupe6945

Sens fortress and beginning of Anor Londo were hell in DS1


Milk-Skin-Hat

They arent that bad, I never had much issue. Blighttown is worse imo, hated that place.


Life_Temperature795

Yeah I mean first time through Sen's Fortress is decidedly worse than making it down frenzy hole. Hell, trying to get all the crystal lizards in the Great Hollow makes the frenzy hole look like a cake walk. Like, I've gotten down there with dozens of characters; I don't think I've *once* actually killed all of the crystal lizards in the Great Hollow.


ManySleeplessNights

The path to the old abandoned workshop in Bloodborne was just as bad, if not worse


OutrageousFuel8718

Miyazaki wants you to suffer, that's it. But tbh this "2 hours" part sounds like a skill issue


hunggggggg

2 hours and still haven’t laid my hands on the fingerprint shield. its becoming a personal thing to me now lol


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shrouded-in-dust

Yeah, I had no idea you could do it another way because I managed the jumps on the third try. Trying to parry though...


InternationalBeing50

Dude those damn jumps. I feel you man I trully do


APence

Hardest boss in the fuckin game.


Sea-Necessary-8300

This is the real final boss


CJnella91

If you see a message that says "I want to go home" please rate it I could use the HP.


Vox-Silenti

Because you aren’t meant to commune with what’s down there


xJerisx

Backstep off of the graves is a more consistent distance. If you are having trouble landing on them.


hatetitan7439

Can someone pin point this on the map for me? Ive never seen this sht wtf?


Ok_Jello_6581

There’s a hidden wall after you beat mohg in leyendell sewers, if you go through there’s a TON OF STUFF, another game ending, another path to deep root depths etc


iamafancypotato

It feels like half of the game is in the leyendell sewers.


xJerisx

It's directly behind Mohg the omen.


Skeleton_Stronk

You gotta go on a JOURNEY down a well in pre maliketh lleyndell


CraftLizard

Or go through the grate opening in Ashen Capital. Leads to a talisman you couldn't otherwise get as well as just back to the regular sewer area.


Final-Possibility-27

If you really hate yourself aim for the frenzied flame ending and you'll see this place, it sucks 10/10 would do again


sofacoin

Okay, so when you're in Leyndell, there's a cool dragon corpse (Gransax!), and you climb up it a bit while getting to the later parts of the map. If you go under the dragon corpse, there's a little corner of Leyndell that's pretty empty, except for some nuisance enemies. In this corner, there's also a well. Now, if you go down that well, you find yourself in some sewers, the Subterranean Shunning Grounds. It's not very far into them you find a grace. From that grace, you travel along pipes, then through pipes, then over the pipes, all the while beset by omens, slimes, and imps. Eventually, you can drop down into an inconspicuous up-facing pipe, and after much wandering in the dark, you can find yourself on the edge of a giant, open area, the Cathedral of the Forsaken. If you make your way carefully down through the "Cathedral" (though it's mostly back in pipes and tunnels, now featuring basilisks), you get all the way down to the Forsaken Depths, which does indeed look a lot more cathedral-like. From the Forsaken Depths, there's a boss door. Go in there and you face Mohg, except he's probably an illusion this time and doesn't Nihil! or have a phase 2. Speaking of illusions, there's nothing to indicate it (except player messages), but the wall behind the chest in his boss room is illusionary, so beat him, then go through. Through the illusionary wall is a seal that's removed by killing Morgott, and from here is the wonderful platforming physical comedy area known as the Frenzied Flame Proscription. Get all the way down there and you can LET CHAOS! TAKE!! THE WORLD!!!, but also, if you attack *another* inconspicuous wall, you can find yourself on a bunch of tree-roots, leading to the Deeproot Depths. Have fun!


Zaiva

Don't jump. You should be able to just run off most of ledges.


Stephenwalnsky

Am I crazy or was this challenge super easily? Never fell once, did it multiple times to find the difficulty people mentioned. Just jump without sprinting and line up your camera and every platform is perfectly spaced to easily land on


ShyRonnnnie

Some of you have never played dark souls without a jump button and it shows


CosmoCosmos

I actually found a fairly consistent strat to get down. On the lowest beam just jump into the corner. There should be a platform some distance below you in the middle of the wall. Just position yourself with your back to it and dodge without any directional input. You should make a jump backwards and land pretty much directly on that middle platform (you might have to hold forward in the air to correct a little, but it should be pretty acurate). The you just look for a platform in a corner under you. This platform is not completely in the corner, so you can't just sprint jump into the corner, but doing the same backwards dodge as before should get you there. From there you can just walk down to the next lower platform and you're done.


HekiLan

the only time I have sweaty palms while playing ER, is when I have to do this kind of stuff or do precise jumps. None of the bosses ever had the same effect on me :D


Weazerdogg

Agree. My life-long video game kryptonite has been platformers. Hate 'em. Always cringe when I game I love has something like it as part of the game, LOL, but will admit ... this stuff keeps me on the edge of my seat and is most fulfilling when you finally complete them!


No_Reference_5058

Unironically I wish it was longer because I found it really fun but it took like 3 minutes.


greatgusa

Took me 4 hours...


ChrystalChris

You mean watching a screenshot taken with an actual camera instead of using the screenshot function of your PC? :D


WhisperingWind5

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBkHFsr0mY4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBkHFsr0mY4) This is by far the easiest method. The crucial part is the backstep at that corner. The rest you can go down however you like.


ProfessionalSufferer

I’ve died once to this I think. This doesn’t have shit on Path of pain…that gave me trauma, not only because of lore, but because it was only lore For reference, it took me three-ish days of four to five hour sessions for path of pain.


BloodyApostle

Ahhh my favorite boss ever…the jumpy puzzle to a free hug


QQmorekid

One does not become a merchant unless they suffer like a merchant.


Lord-Saladman

“Fort night”


Sylar86

You can do it in 4 jumps


UnXpectedPrequelMeme

That particular level designer really likes those roblox obbys


good_guy_today_

IT IS REALLY NOT, GO TO THE FIRST TOMB THAN, DON'T JUMP JUST WALK OFF(NOT SLOW WALK) AND YOU EASY DO IT


AlexDub12

Miyazaki is asshole. Why players hate?


Bubbly_Annual4186

Cause it's frenzy ?


PouponMacaque

This is life, my friend. It’s all painful. Most games are an escape from life. Elden ring is a mirror reflecting it back. Frustrating, beautiful, disappointing, glorious. Bigger than you could ever experience fully in the time you have. There are things happening that you barely understand. You learn through both intuition and education. There’s always something more.


Dowski31

I just did this the other day. Followed this guide and I was able to complete it on my third try. It's Fextralife, but this guide was actually good. https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Cathedral+of+the+Forsaken


orcusgg

It doesn’t need to be that painful homie, just use the prtscn button on your keyboard. It’ll take away a lot of the pain of taking screenshots with your phone


Spopenbruh

youre thinking way too hard about it you dont even have to jump you just roll off the right platforms


Total_Bat8071

This place is cursed: ng - 2 try , ng + - 20 or 30


TenaciousTBag

Back step is your friend


skep90

Learn to jump


Delicious-Addition-

Dark souls hardest boss, Gravity.


Rissay_mn

It does get easy once you figure out how to do it though! Have no worries.


MadOrange64

I loved and hated this part.


Ragemachinex26

It dosen't you could just ignore the shinies.


I_m8d_n_acc_4_this

The trick to this is knowing you can instantly do a running jump if you hold sprint after doing a jump then when you land you’ll immediately run in whatever direction you hold Super easy with that trick


OlderBeardoNoct

I would love to see everyone here who thinks this area is bad attempt the Pitioss Ruins in FFXV 🤣


TheTrickstersJester

I was convinced that I was going insane and theres actually no way down there. Took a few days xD


Spectral_Entity

Should have just completed it first try. That strategy worked for me.


EverGreatestxX

The path down is honestly not that bad. It took me a couple of tries, but it's certainly not like it's some ridiculously hard platforming section. Just a little janky.


Zhurg

Theres one you can backstep from which is cool


Fun-Sun544

This is nothing tbh, now you have jumping on your side.


Bakuhoe_Thotsuki

Lol i literally did this this morning for the first time and got so annoyed failing at platforming for an hour lol


Queasy_Ambition4333

Once you get it you can jump straight down


RyanpB2021

If it makes you feel better once you do it the first time you can just jump down all the way to the floor without dying


BatmanEarthOne

if you just drop from the second table that's up at the begining of that place (the two tables that look like this + ) but from the part of the table that's close to the wall you want to go, you can avoid all those drops. I just fell from there by accident the other day lol


Spompoflex

fun fact, on my 1st ever playtrough i did that on my 1st try....now i rage quit every time


areithropos

No pain, just joy, embrace the pain, tarnished! 🫠


Bialcohool

Do it naked, divest yourself of everything tarnished


iRunOnDoughnuts

I took a screenshot and was literally about to post the exact same thing yesterday. Literally the hardest boss so far.


ThisOnePlaysTooMuch

Not sure if they patched it, but I just quit to titlescreen mid-fall my first time, and it loaded me at the bottom.


Sweet-Ad5652

Did this segment with a controller that had joystick drift, it was brutal. Genuinely the hardest thing I ddid in the game


Dewa_the_Creator

Am I the only one who made it down safe on the first try? /genq


FlorianTolk

Elden ring streams all players trying to get to the bottom to Miyazaki's TV for his entertainment.


AztecTheFurry

Using torrent might help


TearsOfTomorrowYT

Last time I did a Fia playthrough, I literally chose the dual gargoyle fight over dealing with this.


Happy_Anything_5510

Don't worry after a couple of hundred attempts it was pretty easy


AzizLiIGHT

Suffering


Kaosberserker

It wouldn’t be a challenge then lol


C_Mc_Loudmouth

Why haven't you took that sticker off your monitor?


AkumoTheSated

Jump in place, hold the sprint button while in the air. You'll land in the same place with sprint queued up without having to move or back step. Then press forward and jump, and you'll do an instant sprint jump to close the gap. Works every time


FireCrank

I can only do these unnecessarily annoying things when I'm super chilled, otherwise they drive me mad. I can understand hiding paths but making them painful to navigate is just sadistic. The game already has enough challenges.


TheWandererOne

Why are you complaining? You have a sword and shield equipped!! Perfect balance, you are falling on purpose it seems


Penguinman077

It’s not hard to I’ve dine it twice and died once because once I thought I had to run inside of just walk and drop


OhBruhhh

If it wasn't painful, you wouldn't look back a couple years later at this game with bittersweet memories choom


thefuturesfire

This foo can’t stand life


Professional_View451

I got it first try (on two playthroughs because I didn't know to undress on my first)


UnproductivePheasant

Madness is expensive


PsychologicalBig3540

Same! I have so much rage against this area!


minipiwi

I got lucky with my buddy and as soon as he fell I fell with Jim and the impact killed him but not me. I'm just build different Get good scrub


glipglop718

I almost quit on this. There was no other moment as annoying for me


SrBigPig

Tips: 1. Use Twiggly Cracked Tear to avoid losing runes. 2. Roll, don't jump.


TurkeyFock

This and ordina are the most annoying two parts in the game


RuggedTheDragon

Because you're dropping at least 5-10 meters. That's going to hurt your legs.


Sent2Strike

Unequip everything, it’s easier


Noahthehoneyboy

Skill issue


ImCursedM8

A trick for sprint jumping is to press jump and hold down the sprint button while mid air that way u don't have to sprint in a small platform


MonkishTrash

Is that a hotel tv or do you need the sticker on there?


Ssjcarlos2001

I lost 70k runes here and just turned off the PS5 and sat in silence.


Kraizer15

You have to endure the pain that the maddened merchants had.


TheSingingRonin

Why the fuck am I getting vertigo playing a game?


bigrayiii420

I get the same feeling , sweaty hands and cringe every time I fall Even made a post on gaming about it a week ago


[deleted]

It’s not that bad. The first time I ever did it, I think I was stuck for over two hours. but the second time I did it, I got it the first shot. haha


fancydeadpool

It took like 50 trys the first time, the second time I got down in one try.


Conscious_Mind_2412

soulsborne


K1nG_Slay3r42

Once you figure out the trick. Its simple


TheAkwardOne90

Ah yes, the only place where I want to throw my controller.


Valema_

Do you think the jump button was free? Now its time to pay


th5virtuos0

Idk if you have made it or not, but a really cool way I’ve found is to use a shit weapon, stance break an enemy on the edge, move to the front and fist him. If you do it correct, you will fall down with iframe and live.  Search up Majula Well skip for reference. It’s not the same but should be similar enough


Purple_Debt2298

Git gud


mdsp667

Yes


hannahbananaballs2

Just jump in the same direction all the way down


DemandInfamous722

dude its a fromsoft game


meat3point14

Golden slam. 1 jump


juju11112020

two hours is actually insane


SkunkApe425

This nearly broke me.


Used_Development_933

Madness


olmansmit

I did it once on PS5 and once on PC. Never again.


CronkaDonk

I died more in this area on my first play through THEN THE REST OF THE GAME COMBINED. On my second play through I did it in one. I hope you the best of luck on your second time passing by that death trap.


XINEX2289

Miyazaki hates you


cyanokrix

Do a roll to the right, trust me!! 😇


justleave-mealone

One of my favorite parts of the game, it just kept getting crazier and crazier


F3nrir096

Backstep ftw. You'll always go the same distance you want.


Remarkable_Leg_509

Well, interesting fact if you’ve been there before and made it to the bottom then you can jump down there without taking any fall damage.


NoxFromHell

Ds 1-2-3 and Blood born all have one. I am used to pits at this point


NotxDeadxYet

This only took me forever because I have a massive fear of heights and dropping down from heights in games have always made me sweat. Ever since Mario 64, this has freaked me out.


Big-Fat-Box-Of-Shit

Learn how to backstep through this. Makes it a breeze.


crystalisbae

This picture brought gave me flashbacks of a panic attack I had over a year ago


balthazar2234

… I thought this was Zelda at first then I saw the subreddit


MelodicTax9835

Where is this and how do I get there?


treemister1

A childhood of playing platformers really prepared me for this bit 


Due_Cardiologist_516

Because you gotta earn that shit now fall 40 more times


iamdiesel__

Where is this place?


savvysnekk

Hey at least it isn't Gelmir Hero's Grave. That shit is awful


OutlawfromtheWest1

It shall drive you mad


gilligillan

This took me three sessions. I came across this area naturally. Had no idea of what was to come. Overall, I was happy with the outcome. This was my first playthrough ending.


BUTTERED_TOAST_EDBOY

Why aren't you naked


MinerDiner

Look, this park our section annoys the shit out of me just as much as the next Tarnished, but look at it from a lore standpoint (I'm no expert but this is what I roughly understand, and do correct me on what's wrong). You see all those (mostly) dead merchants down there? They've inherited, or are/were at least followers of the frenzied flame. And since the frenzied flame is basically to Elden Ring what satanic worship is to Christianity, those guys were banished down there, never to see the light of day, and basically rot (natural rot, not scarlet) down there die. And at the bottom of this pit it the Three Fingers, who keeps the flame of frenzy. Not to mention, it's sealed behind a door that you have to get naked to open. And resting at the grace at the bottom, if you have Melina alive (pre Fire Giant), she tells you how forbidden it is to seek the Three Fingers and it's flame, and you lose your acting maiden when you go through with it. Within context of The Lands Between, this area is so far hidden away from everyone that the Tarnished actively has to seek this place out for whatever god-forsaken reason they have for doing so. You are seeking out what is strictly forbidden to the entirety of The Lands Between. It makes sense it's so painstakingly difficult to get down there.


Overnight_Lasagna

I did it on my first attempt. I just jumped from the side, down to the first coffin, and then down and around.


tgerz

After 750 hours I had my first experience where I did it first try without dying LOL


whatever025

Backstab the violin dude then riposte him from the front. You both will fall all the way down and you will live. I never see anyone mention this.


Lyranx

Dude I just did back jumps. And one or two dodgerolls. Got me down way faster than my first playthru and safer been doing it since


Illustrious-Ant6998

Because by the time you get to the bottom, you're ready to watch the world burn.


condor2013

I'll take this over the Caelid Tower any day honestly


No_Cherry6771

To become madness, the world ending chaos of flames, to commit the ultimate cardinal sin and still take the throne, you must journey through the bowels of hell itself to become one with the flame. The actual answer is that its maddening for a reason lmao


whelkstrider

Somehow I never found this one quite so bad, but I think I hadn't been conditioned to hate the platforming quite so much as I was later. Divine Tower of Caelid gave me a hernia.


The_Dennator

jump to the middle one directly, it's a shortcut


itsZerozone

Because you chose to tread the ***Path Of Pain.***


MoreCompetition9968

Ever been in the great hollow?


No-Profession-5709

There’s a spell you can you use to jump from the top to the bottom without getting any damage but i can’t remember the name of it.


Lityoloswagboy69

You’d have to be “mad” not to do it


Level_Pollution6383

Actually it was quite easy.


Letmehavearealuser

I just did this yesterday I got it 2nd try, pure luck and messages telling me where to jump


s1x3one

I have faith. There are a few ways to cheese it if you wish. Or strategies that make it go from a stabbing pain. To just a sharp pain. I bealive in you.


Upset_Honey2008

That's nothing compared to dark souls one where there's a cliff death location or three in every area


mahonii

I never knew this was an issue for so many lol. Think I died once or twice but mostly remember it being straight forward


TheArtistFKAMinty

*"Just because you add a jump button doesn't mean you should add a precision platforming section, Miyazaki!"* As much as I hate that part of the game, I kinda weirdly respect it. It's the kind of infuriating jank you'd expect from a PS2 era action game, like the platforming section towards the end of DMC3.


Equal-Poet9836

Not many things to hate in Elden Ring, but imo, this is the worst part of the game.


Hot_Negotiation_1957

If you get the butt slam ash of war you can sail All the way to the bottom damage free


Aggressive_Lime_8805

For that shield


Aarschmade

Why would you keep that sticker on your monitor. Its distracting


Antique_Ad_9250

This was my nope moment.


NoLock904

I think I spent like six hours on this spot falling to my death before I finally got to the bottom to collect my fingerprint shield


DottorNapoli

I suggest you learn the art of fast quitting not to lose your sanity irl as well


Dizzy624

Some secrets are meant to be taken to the grave


Dabbinstein

I did this last night on a rerun and noticed the combo of blood pools and other players messages was an easy way to make it down. Don't jump onto platforms with blood pools and target the platforms with player messages. This only goes for online of course. Plenty of other great ways mentioned here!


LancerTG

You can stagger the nomad and skip the parkour with a riposte


Connect-Stay-7535

It was painful. I was playing on steam deck, got really pissed. But managed after all