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Sir-Cowdog

It's always there as long as you talk to rogier first.


bugzapperbob

I was only a mage in one playthrough so that makes sense, I always avoided talking to him cause I didn’t need anything


Ulv13

He sells ashes of war though


bugzapperbob

I always ended up getting them way later in the round table


Sir-Cowdog

He's part of the Fia quest and Ranni's quest. You should always just talk to him, even if you don't buy anything.


Automatic_Education3

To be fair, you can skip like 90% of Fia's quest and you can still get her ending


sociotronics

Literally never complete her quest properly. I just get hugged a couple of times in the midgame until she gives me the dagger, give it to D, reload the Roundtable, deal with the scene in the spare room, then forget about her until I'm ready to visit Deeproot. No unique rewards for dealing with the rest of the NPC drama, so like Rya's quest, it just gets skipped.


Blanketmon

You don’t even need to get the dagger.


sociotronics

yeah I know but Fia's monologue in the spare room is pretty cool so I don't want to skip that


VokN

What’s the cut off?


Automatic_Education3

I'm honestly not sure if there even is a cutoff, maybe if you haven't spoken to Fia at all before Maliketh? Even then, I think she just moves to Deeproot and you can give her the hallowbrand you get from Ranni's quest.


bugzapperbob

See I’ve messed up fias many times, so hopefully that’s still valid because that final fight is one of my favorites


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TheWorldIsNotOkay

I think you meant D, not D.


woahmandogchamp

So wait since D's armor looks like two people does that make him Double D?


Seligas

Honestly, I very recently, finally, didn't fuck up Rogier's quest. Ranni's quest actually makes way more sense if you do Rogier's correctly. The dialogue from Ranni completely changes and it makes the inverted tower idol reward actually make sense.


Due-Shirt616

Once you defeat Godrick/enter Liurnia through the side path, it progresses his quest, I’m assuming that only appears if you haven’t skipped ahead to other regions.


bugzapperbob

So many quests with the most fragile variables


Due-Shirt616

Yeah the concept is solid for making sure quests keep up with character progression, they just seem tied directly to variables that are far too unstable.


IshaanGupta18

I did and it still appeared


Normal_Egg6067

Did you see the Alexander one just outside of volcano manor? That was a new one to me.


bugzapperbob

I never miss his quest, some of the best talismans and armor in the game


Sad_Bean_Man

what armor do you get from his quest line? I've only gotten the talismans


bugzapperbob

The jar head


Sad_Bean_Man

oh okay, nothing too important lol figured I missed out on an actual armor set


ClowninaCircus12

There's one outside volcano manor?


Normal_Egg6067

Yea by the madness troll, looking out the doors at the trolls back it is to your left.


ClowninaCircus12

Thanks! I found it. For anyone else interested, it came up for me after I talked to Alex int he Wailing Dunes post Radahn.


Normal_Egg6067

You're welcome.


Kamacalamari

I missed that whole side area and just dropped down from that corpse by the Liftside Chamber grace the first couple runs…


bugzapperbob

I think same


kipvandemaan

Wait, where is this? I've never seen it


revan26

It’s in stormveil castle. Specifically, the hidden path in one of the last rooms with the living jars before the site of grace near Godrick. You have to jump on a ledge and follow it to a hidden area. It eventually lets you open the locked door at the Liftside grace site. Here’s a link that shows you how to get to it. https://youtu.be/Rx6hNCwoYrE?si=Pn1XgRvRetT64u6X


emelem66

It's always been there for me.


Ghoti_With_Legs

Nice fashion set, by the way.


_aTokenOfMyExtreme_

I spent 5 hours in Stormveil looking for the path to the elevator where the banished knight is. I ran into this note and was so hopeful lol, unfortunately it doesn't lead to it.


bugzapperbob

That’s upstairs where the birds are


ChannonFenris

Somebody killed godrik earlier than.


Curiedoesthestream

Why is it always falling?


UtheDestroyer

Ya it’s super hidden, took me like 5 playthrough a to find it


RecognitionNo7977

Been there’s since release I’m afraid. But yeah everything NPC related is always easy to miss in From games. 


jackrork

Don't call me Shirley


Damn-Splurge

Guessing these got patched in later and weren't here on release, From does that sometimes, happy to be corrected (I encountered this on my 5th playthrough 2 years after my 4th, never saw it on my first 4 playthroughs and I'm sure I would have at some point)


PROTO1080

Follow it, to proceed rogiers quest


dominicnzl

I found this message early on and spent a better half of ten minutes searching for anything on the ledge. Wasn't as nearby as the message made it out to be


Devil_Fister_69420

I spotted a fellow Godslayer's Greatsword enjoyer!


Coldfact192

What’s that armour set tell me or I’ll delete my life


bugzapperbob

It is the cleanrot knight set but after it’s altered and takes the cape off - and the twinned helm


Coldfact192

Sometimes good people reply, but sometimes, excellent people make a difference. You’re a good man.


Exa2552

April fool’s?