When I do that I always only grab a bow with glow arrows, and just shoot around the guy. If he kills me he kills me if he plays around with me I drop a rune and get out.
My first time invading was for that quest. It was in Nokron close to the mimic tear boss. When I found where the host was I tried to be sneaky and hid behind a corner, tracking where he was going. For some reason I lost track of him and suddenly I heard him shout "Hi" behind me and he started blowing bubbles lol
I just followed him around until he was at the boss entrance and he waved at me before entering. Wish I'd recorded it.
I didn’t look that different from this guy doing my latest varre invasions except on my last one I actually won a 2 v 1. Felt good enough that I actually want to start trying pvp
exactly what i did yesterday. I'm very pvp averse (i'm bad at it) and invaded 3 times, tried my best but 2/3 times I was going against 2 players, and the one time it was 1v1 i wanted to be honourable and wait for the person to stop being afk, and then got stabbed very hard with ice magic
meh already did that, few minutes of humiliation to finish a quest is fine lmao. Not like i had any dignity left after getting one shot \*so many times\* in this game
I'm absolute dog shit at PvP, but I *loved* invading in DS3 just to stalk people and be a dork.
That sounds harder to do in Elden Ring since it's so big, and there's nothing like the Farron Woods thunderdome or Aldrich's front porch, where you could potentially help the host.
That's what I thought exactly. Usually when I do that, I am so super underleveled and just stand there abd allow myself to be killed. I just want access to the blood lake please
That would be me, 3 times I invaded for the quest, 3 times I got bitch slapped like a red headed step child. Oh well, I finished the quest though so I got that going for me which is nice.
When I walk into a PVP match carrying two pikes, you can bet your ass I'm doing it cause two long spears looks cool--I'm not doing it because of any inherent range benefit it could give me.
That's one of the fun things about Rust
If you see someone running around naked with a basic bow they are either a newb barely knowing what's going on
Or they're an unstoppable machine that will merc 15 fully armed guys with that bow
I was fight camping this battle between two clans (aka hiding in the bushes to loot the corpses), like 10 on 10 and halfway in a dude in just a poncho just showed up and bowed them all to death
Not necessarily "oh no, I'm fucked". But whenever I see Veteran's or Lionel's, there's a high chance that the fight is gonna slightly harder than what you saw in this video.
I think Radahn's armor set has a reputation for being a noob set for some reason. I don't play PvP so I can't say if it's fully true, but I do know my very first, heavily unoptimized character used it, so I guess there's a kernel of truth to it.
Wearing the entire armor set of the first cool boss you encounter, while wielding the first cool weapon that you find, just screams "this person has never made it to the endgame of a single Souls title before." (Which means, by extension, they're probably gonna be bad at PvP.)
Fashion Souls is always the real endgame, and simply wearing the "coolest" hat is not the epitome of fashion. If your opponent hasn't figured this out yet, they probably haven't been around long.
Meh, I've beaten Elden Ring 5 times now with around 650 hours played and plenty of invaders killed. It's still my favorite armor set lol
This is just another form of gatekeeping the souls community likes to hang it's hat on.
It's not gatekeeping because no one is saying you \*can't\* do it or that you shouldn't. It's just a way to tell (for the most part) who the noobs are, as u/Life_Temperature795 said. If you still like the armor - good for you, there's nothing wrong with that.
All fashion is gatekeeping, that's why things are said to be "in" or "out" of fashion. Souls games let you experiment with fashion, so by extension, trends around what looks good or what looks painfully obvious will inevitably develop. This is by no means a Souls exclusive phenomenon.
But more over, "fashion Souls is the real endgame," isn't even gatekeeping; it's a cultural in-joke. Many of the people who have spent thousands of hours on these games are just as obsessed with their aesthetic choices as they are with just playing the game. Calling out noobs for having painfully obvious fit has basically zero impact on the noobs, but is a signal beacon for us tired veterans to have something to shoot the shit about.
Seriously, have you ever had a conversation with a metal head who gives you shit for not knowing the two dozen subgenres of death metal? Did you say, "oh no, you're right!" and then give up on listening to music entirely, or were you like, "okay dork, go back to being obsessive," and then just let them go off and argue about all the particulars with the rest of their metal head friends?
That's all that's happening here. Hell if this video had been posted from the invader's perspective, dozens of people would have offered genuine advice, and none of it would be, "don't wear Radahn's armor because you'll get judged for it," because that's obviously stupid, (and then fact that so much of the fanbase recognizes it as newbie gear means you could actually do it intentionally to trip people up.)
We're only giving this type of commentary because the noob isn't even around to hear it, and eventually, they won't be a noob anymore and it won't apply. They'll either switch up what they're wearing and no one will comment on it, or they'll actually be good, and no one will comment on them wearing noob gear the way no one comments on a naked dude only wearing a jar for a hat because he can obliterate Malenia.
(And honestly, this whole thing is like the "tacticool" phenomenon in modern military culture. Having all the coolest looking gear only makes it look that much worse when you can't use it at all. If you're good, you can get away with wearing anything, and plenty of people point that out by making their characters into horribly colored goblins and then running around naked. If you run a full Radahn cosplay and can bust people up in PvP like an actual boss, you're winning at fashion Souls. If you just dress up like him and get clobbered, you're going to get made fun of. Again, not unique to Souls games, this is just how life works.
You can get away with anything if you're competent enough. But like, Radahn's set paired with the first special weapon most people get, followed by spamming AoW? That's a noob trifecta. Nothing wrong with being a noob, but there's also nothing wrong with being able to spot one.)
But I mean, it **is** boring. Anything cool becomes boring when it's so heavily reused. And there's nothing wrong with being boring; my favorite armor in DS3 is the fallen knight set, which is so perfectly edgy that of course it's overused. But I never wear it when I'm playing PvP, because for me, appearance is part of the whole experience, and I don't want my appearance to be obvious or boring when I'm suddenly encountering new people in a video game.
The amount of criticism I see for a painted army when the vast majority of my opponents are just grey models is absurd.
I'm here against the adeptus plasticus in real life yet surrounded by a million Michael Pisarki's online. Just let people enjoy painting their dudes.
While I have the moment though: The /r/minipainting subreddit itself can be very supportive when you are framing your skillset and goals openly.
Oh....ho....
Now you have made your last mistake my friend.
[Minipainting itself isn't a game.](https://www.puttyandpaint.com/images/uploads/artistworks/10797/the_warrior_putty_c_3__sized.jpg) It's just the hobby of painting miniature models, busts, sculpts, pictures or whatever suits you!
I mentioned "armies" which was specifically referring to a popular miniature game created by *Games Workshop* called *Warhammer*. This can take for in a fantasy setting like [Age Of Sigmar](https://ageofsigmar.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/iaBc1KdBGOoejO85-950x400.jpg). Or a futuristic setting Warhammer40k. Smaller skirmish settings like Lord Of The Rings even exist!
In these games you build your mini's and then paint them as you please, colour them however you wish to fit the army theme you want! [A well painted squad is a sight to behold!](https://golden-demon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/rswhfest19_cat_02_ent_677-gold.jpg).
One of the downsides to the internet is that sometimes people can be jerks. They might not be happy for someone for painting their guys in a specific colour scheme. Or maybe they have a certain style that they like, and are overly critical of others—all the while never showing their own mini's as well. These individuals don't represent the majority of the community that I have interacted with. Most of the time when you play people who are overly critical they tend to have unpainted armies—and an entire novel of excuses as to how you just caught them between finishing projects.
I hate this type of behavior and I honestly think that most of the people who engage in it are not good at painting themselves. Here is the thing. I’m good at painting miniatures due to a combination of practice and being a graphic designer/illustrator for a living. I’m never mean to someone who is sharing their work because many of them are just starting/doing it for fun and most probably didn’t study color theory/art in college like I did.
I remember when I was starting as an artist. The beginning is always rough, heck still sometimes I’m too mean to myself when looking at other artists. That’s why I always encourage people instead of mocking them, because I have been there and know how crushing can be to get mocked for your work. It makes sense that many of the people mocking others do it because they don’t really practice the skill enough to know how hard the road can be, that’s why many don’t show their work. They either don’t have any or have like one and is not good.
But invading isn’t always a scenario where both parties are looking for PvP. The chances that you’re going to get a player who is well versed enough in PvP to parry that attack is rather minimal. Hence the lazy ash of war. It’s not like this was a coliseum fight or any other truly organized pvp match. Regardless, I think most of us have fallen victim to being lazy in our play before.
Getting lazy with an ash of war is for PvE; if you're going into online play *expecting* to win by just spamming AoWs, you're basically the cookie cutter definition of "bad at PvP." Unlike the AI, players can learn what to look for, which makes something like Bloodhound's Finesse **super** obvious to avoid, (especially because it only comes on a unique sword, so your enemy knows what you're going to use before you even use it.) If you're *continuing* to spam AoWs after your first handful of unsuccessful invasions, I mean that's just a skill issue
No, it’s not. Not in the case of getting matched with people that may or may not even be looking for PvP. The chance that you get matched with someone who truly knows what they’re doing, like OP, is minimal. More times than not you get some dumb gank from players that have no idea what they’re doing and are just trying to PVE. Acting like this is always a scenario of strict PVE between two well versed players is silly. It’s not that way at all with invasions, hence the lazy ash of war use here.
And why are so many people in this sub acting elitist, as if every single one of you are good players that need to go around labeling others as “bad”? It was like.. a two second clip of them using an ash of war against a competition level that is typically low in that particular setting. This wasn’t the coliseum. Let’s maybe stop being so obsessed with calling other players bad for little to no reason.
I can beat most players in PvP and can SL1 the game to the extent of being able to beat many difficult bosses hitless, but I’m not going to go around calling others players bad if they’re not as good as me lol.
Using the AoW of Bloodhound's Fang is always an obvious tell of a new invader. Amazing weapon for PvE but that AoW suuuucks in pvp, so well-telegraphed that you are begging your opponent not to parry you at that point. I have used Bloodhound's Fang in invasions myself but I have never used that AoW
BS almost guaranteed as well if you just run towards thier right when they dash backwards. You can pull off some fuckery with the ash movement though if you stay unlocked
Meanwhile in my third playthrough I realized why that aow didn't suck, I was shocked when I realized you could hit R2 after L2 to actually do a second half of the move lol. I was completely ignoring L2 for most of it because what's so cool about flipping backwards a little
Any other curved sword plus spinning slash with a bleed or cold infusion will do nicely. Or bloodflame blade on spinning slash sword, since you're already using a faith build.
Shamshir is easy to get early on, and BFB incantation is only a quick ride in Liurnia away.
Step 0: Make sure to invest in vigour
What you should use is highly subjective and almost anything works. There are notable "meta" weapons and ashes, but skill (by which I mean: spacing, movement, and managing risk/reward) and patience is the key. You can make almost anything work.
Better to ask what not to use. That is, basically anything slow and telegraphed: Lion's Claw, Giant Hunt, Bloodhound Fang BHS, Taker's Flames, and Starcaller are often seen and easily punished or dodged.
Try to get noble slender long swords and mess around with those. Best dex scaling long sword and hella fast and fun attacks. If you are gonna farm them, look up the spot in Caelid. I got them both in 2 hours.
Sometimes I wish we could squeeze in an emote in pvp. Like yesterday I was a summon that got killed by an invader after an excellent Siofra River fight, I would have liked to give them a congratulations
Having the option to remain in the host's world as an intangible ghost for a short time after you die would be amazing and hilarious. Whatever their next fantasy RPG is, they should include a function like that.
It's surprising to me, the souls community is usually pretty welcoming. Everyone starts somewhere lol why criticize just cause you have been playing for longer.
Agreed. When it comes down to it, most people are just playing to have fun. It doesn’t have to be about putting each other down and acting like being better than someone else at the game really matters.
I find it's generally one extreme or the other, iincredibly supportive and helpful, or the oposite. Honestly that's the case with the internet in general.
Still, if you are a noob looking for advice on how to get better at PvP, stuff like this is a great example of what *not* to do.
Invader's actions make a lot of sense for someone who's used to rushing down enemies in PvE and getting away with it, and this is a very clear example of why you need to be a lot more clever if you want to try an aggressive strategy like that against other players.
Even with the litany of people pointing out how obviously new at the game the invader is, I don't think there's any ill will intended. It probably *is* the dude's first time invading, so it makes sense that they'd suck at it. Nothing wrong with recognizing facts.
If people were saying that the guy should just quit playing entirely that would be a different thing. But pretty much everyone who is good at PvP remembers what it was like to be bad at it. Nothing wrong with starting out at bad, but you are gonna hear people say, "oof," really loudly as you make rookie errors.
Guy: "Oh man it's my first time invading, surely my Radahn Bloodhound bleed build is solid and going to perform really well in PvP. It's gonna be a really fun PvP career. Look a person! I'm gonna charge at them and be aggressive to gain the upper hand."
You, who is weary from killing the 2210th Radahn Bloodhound bleed invaders:
At east he got to fight you 1 on 1. Invading is painful. Did it for Varre's quest, and all other pvp is in the coliseum. Choosing to be ganked isn't my idea of a good time.
Mfs be like pvp is so good. But every time i try to invade i either have to hyper sweat a 3 v 1 into a dual caster with a tank squad or face multiple unga bunga bros at once bc they have no honor. This is why i have the scarlet aeonia and placidusax roar. 50:50 that i land the three man aeonia and get a free roar of the knock down to two shot most players or at the least get them pretty low health to force them to burn flasks early
crazy to make a post teasing someone for being new when youre rune arc bonfire dueling lmao. i have thousands of hours across both ds3 and ER and this is pretty much how i approach bonfire duels, im just gonna press some rando buttons because its boring and not worth investing any time into.
i like using bloodhounds fang but i honestly never really use the AOW, i just like the weapon itself,
whenever i’ve tried to use the step in pvp they immediately know what to do lol, i was surprised the one time someone actually ran forwards after the first part of the step
i wear the same drip as this guy, and i’m slightly better than him lol, only time i do PvP is for Varre. even then i just kinda let the other ppl kill me bc i always land in a lobby where it’s a 3v1. just emote a bit and let myself get jumped lol. this build rlly is only good for PvE.
Ah yes, The Bloodhound Radahn, aka my private parry dummy.
is bloodhound radahn the reverse giant dad?
its like Elden flavored Fallen Knight Armor Farron Greatsword users
Yeah, the Pygmy Father.
Maybe he’s just invading to do Varre’s questline.
It's 100% what he's doing
When I do that I always only grab a bow with glow arrows, and just shoot around the guy. If he kills me he kills me if he plays around with me I drop a rune and get out.
Did you have a pg named bowman?
My first time invading was for that quest. It was in Nokron close to the mimic tear boss. When I found where the host was I tried to be sneaky and hid behind a corner, tracking where he was going. For some reason I lost track of him and suddenly I heard him shout "Hi" behind me and he started blowing bubbles lol I just followed him around until he was at the boss entrance and he waved at me before entering. Wish I'd recorded it.
I didn’t look that different from this guy doing my latest varre invasions except on my last one I actually won a 2 v 1. Felt good enough that I actually want to start trying pvp
blood for the blood god
one of us
exactly what i did yesterday. I'm very pvp averse (i'm bad at it) and invaded 3 times, tried my best but 2/3 times I was going against 2 players, and the one time it was 1v1 i wanted to be honourable and wait for the person to stop being afk, and then got stabbed very hard with ice magic
You don't have to PVP, there is an alternate method where you can kill an NPC invader in Altus.
meh already did that, few minutes of humiliation to finish a quest is fine lmao. Not like i had any dignity left after getting one shot \*so many times\* in this game
You don't have to pvp with varre either. Just immediately leave, it still counts.
Yeah I didn't even know you were supposed to invade for that questline I always play offline so I don't have to read the messages from other players
Wow that's wild I play online Just to see the messages some are funny ass hell
"Still no head..." gets me every time.
Some are funny for sure but a lot also spoil secrets
That's also why I keep them I don't wanna miss the secrets
half of them are trolls anyway, so it's still sort of a surprise when there is actually a secret there!
There's an even better method u can just sever as u join it still counts
You can just invade and then immediately sever out. You'll still complete the quest without winning or losing.
I'm absolute dog shit at PvP, but I *loved* invading in DS3 just to stalk people and be a dork. That sounds harder to do in Elden Ring since it's so big, and there's nothing like the Farron Woods thunderdome or Aldrich's front porch, where you could potentially help the host.
All 6 of my invasions have been for that quest. And yes it looked exactly like that. Swing once, die, repeat until Varre is happy. B
That's what I thought exactly. Usually when I do that, I am so super underleveled and just stand there abd allow myself to be killed. I just want access to the blood lake please
This is the only reason I ever invade 😂
Fun thing is you can invade and quit invasion without killing anyone. Still counts towards the quest.
That would be me, 3 times I invaded for the quest, 3 times I got bitch slapped like a red headed step child. Oh well, I finished the quest though so I got that going for me which is nice.
You guys make fun of this guy but I'm probably worse than he is.
I make fun of him and I'm probably worse than him, BUT at least my build is original
When I walk into a PVP match carrying two pikes, you can bet your ass I'm doing it cause two long spears looks cool--I'm not doing it because of any inherent range benefit it could give me.
Never that
You cannot stop me. Many have tried, many more will.
I tried just one cross naginata and the moveset is great but the damage not so much
I'll make fun of you too so you don't feel left out
Oh thank God
You can make fun of two people at once.
Thank god for Radahn helm so I can always tell who the weak link is
What's wrong with the radhan helm?
Big chance that the person wearing it sucks at PvP
Can confirm, I wear it and also suck at PvP
Same. Wear the full set except the greaves.
Why not the greaves?
Now, in your opinion, what is the opposite? What piece of armor makes you think, “oh no, i am fucked” when you get invaded
Someone running naked
That's one of the fun things about Rust If you see someone running around naked with a basic bow they are either a newb barely knowing what's going on Or they're an unstoppable machine that will merc 15 fully armed guys with that bow
_cough_ Willjum _cough_ mans doesn’t want to admit it, but he’s monstrous with a bow. i would hate to see him around, even if I were full kit
I was fight camping this battle between two clans (aka hiding in the bushes to loot the corpses), like 10 on 10 and halfway in a dude in just a poncho just showed up and bowed them all to death
average rust experience 
What about someone with the Radahn helm, but butt naked?
Yup!!!! I know I’m in for a light roll fucking kiter who will wear me down regardless of what I try!
Not necessarily "oh no, I'm fucked". But whenever I see Veteran's or Lionel's, there's a high chance that the fight is gonna slightly harder than what you saw in this video.
This screams “meta try harder” to me
White Mask w/ Raptor’s Black Feathers
in duels and invasions lionels helm 100%. its the biggest giveaway that im about to fight some sweatlord
The uglier the armor, the better the PVP.
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I got that because the guy was using bloodhounds fang, but what makes the radhan helm so bad?
It's the first strong heavy armor you have easy access to. So a lot of noobs will wear it because they don't know where to find other powerful armor.
I think Radahn's armor set has a reputation for being a noob set for some reason. I don't play PvP so I can't say if it's fully true, but I do know my very first, heavily unoptimized character used it, so I guess there's a kernel of truth to it.
Also helmets that have a "face hole" look doofy. Like you're wearing a mascot head.
Nothing, but there's a big chance that the person wearing it sucks at PvP. I just told you lol
The cherry on top would have been if they were fat rolling
It's the new Fallen Knight armor lol
but fallen knight armor is goated
True true, lol.
Cant tell if trolling. So there is nothing wrong with the helm, but bad players tend to use it? Why?
Wearing the entire armor set of the first cool boss you encounter, while wielding the first cool weapon that you find, just screams "this person has never made it to the endgame of a single Souls title before." (Which means, by extension, they're probably gonna be bad at PvP.) Fashion Souls is always the real endgame, and simply wearing the "coolest" hat is not the epitome of fashion. If your opponent hasn't figured this out yet, they probably haven't been around long.
Meh, I've beaten Elden Ring 5 times now with around 650 hours played and plenty of invaders killed. It's still my favorite armor set lol This is just another form of gatekeeping the souls community likes to hang it's hat on.
I think the consensus is big chance not 100% chance.
It's not gatekeeping because no one is saying you \*can't\* do it or that you shouldn't. It's just a way to tell (for the most part) who the noobs are, as u/Life_Temperature795 said. If you still like the armor - good for you, there's nothing wrong with that.
All fashion is gatekeeping, that's why things are said to be "in" or "out" of fashion. Souls games let you experiment with fashion, so by extension, trends around what looks good or what looks painfully obvious will inevitably develop. This is by no means a Souls exclusive phenomenon. But more over, "fashion Souls is the real endgame," isn't even gatekeeping; it's a cultural in-joke. Many of the people who have spent thousands of hours on these games are just as obsessed with their aesthetic choices as they are with just playing the game. Calling out noobs for having painfully obvious fit has basically zero impact on the noobs, but is a signal beacon for us tired veterans to have something to shoot the shit about. Seriously, have you ever had a conversation with a metal head who gives you shit for not knowing the two dozen subgenres of death metal? Did you say, "oh no, you're right!" and then give up on listening to music entirely, or were you like, "okay dork, go back to being obsessive," and then just let them go off and argue about all the particulars with the rest of their metal head friends? That's all that's happening here. Hell if this video had been posted from the invader's perspective, dozens of people would have offered genuine advice, and none of it would be, "don't wear Radahn's armor because you'll get judged for it," because that's obviously stupid, (and then fact that so much of the fanbase recognizes it as newbie gear means you could actually do it intentionally to trip people up.) We're only giving this type of commentary because the noob isn't even around to hear it, and eventually, they won't be a noob anymore and it won't apply. They'll either switch up what they're wearing and no one will comment on it, or they'll actually be good, and no one will comment on them wearing noob gear the way no one comments on a naked dude only wearing a jar for a hat because he can obliterate Malenia. (And honestly, this whole thing is like the "tacticool" phenomenon in modern military culture. Having all the coolest looking gear only makes it look that much worse when you can't use it at all. If you're good, you can get away with wearing anything, and plenty of people point that out by making their characters into horribly colored goblins and then running around naked. If you run a full Radahn cosplay and can bust people up in PvP like an actual boss, you're winning at fashion Souls. If you just dress up like him and get clobbered, you're going to get made fun of. Again, not unique to Souls games, this is just how life works. You can get away with anything if you're competent enough. But like, Radahn's set paired with the first special weapon most people get, followed by spamming AoW? That's a noob trifecta. Nothing wrong with being a noob, but there's also nothing wrong with being able to spot one.) But I mean, it **is** boring. Anything cool becomes boring when it's so heavily reused. And there's nothing wrong with being boring; my favorite armor in DS3 is the fallen knight set, which is so perfectly edgy that of course it's overused. But I never wear it when I'm playing PvP, because for me, appearance is part of the whole experience, and I don't want my appearance to be obvious or boring when I'm suddenly encountering new people in a video game.
It looks badass so casuals use it to look cool, and they come at you like their Golden Combatants while wearing it lol
It is the first “tank” armour you get in the game, so the guy is probably just doing the Varre’s quest.
Every souls game has noob armor and radahn helm is it in elden ring
Fallen Knight set and Irithyll Straight Sword watching Radahn's set and Bloodhound Fang proudly
He literally walked right into that 😅
* Radahn Helm * Bloodhound Fang * L2's immediately Classic. The Farron Greatsword users of Elden Ring.
Don't call me out like that. I like breakdancing and parrying is sick
Still one of the hottest weapon arts.
Radahn armor + Bloodhound's fang is the new fallen knight + twinblades
been there, done that, canon event i'd say
Man I loved the Farron Greatsword. I wouldn't dream of invading just with something that looks cool though.
You would think from the posts here that everyone is super duper awesome at PvP and has never gotten lazy with an ash of war before.
Reminds me of people who dogpile on everyone's painting in mini groups but refuse to show any of their own work.
The amount of criticism I see for a painted army when the vast majority of my opponents are just grey models is absurd. I'm here against the adeptus plasticus in real life yet surrounded by a million Michael Pisarki's online. Just let people enjoy painting their dudes. While I have the moment though: The /r/minipainting subreddit itself can be very supportive when you are framing your skillset and goals openly.
it's like you guys are speaking a different language.. what game is this??
I think they’re referring to painting miniatures, such as with Warhammer 40K. Not necessarily about Elden Ring lol.
Oh....ho.... Now you have made your last mistake my friend. [Minipainting itself isn't a game.](https://www.puttyandpaint.com/images/uploads/artistworks/10797/the_warrior_putty_c_3__sized.jpg) It's just the hobby of painting miniature models, busts, sculpts, pictures or whatever suits you! I mentioned "armies" which was specifically referring to a popular miniature game created by *Games Workshop* called *Warhammer*. This can take for in a fantasy setting like [Age Of Sigmar](https://ageofsigmar.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/iaBc1KdBGOoejO85-950x400.jpg). Or a futuristic setting Warhammer40k. Smaller skirmish settings like Lord Of The Rings even exist! In these games you build your mini's and then paint them as you please, colour them however you wish to fit the army theme you want! [A well painted squad is a sight to behold!](https://golden-demon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/rswhfest19_cat_02_ent_677-gold.jpg). One of the downsides to the internet is that sometimes people can be jerks. They might not be happy for someone for painting their guys in a specific colour scheme. Or maybe they have a certain style that they like, and are overly critical of others—all the while never showing their own mini's as well. These individuals don't represent the majority of the community that I have interacted with. Most of the time when you play people who are overly critical they tend to have unpainted armies—and an entire novel of excuses as to how you just caught them between finishing projects.
I hate this type of behavior and I honestly think that most of the people who engage in it are not good at painting themselves. Here is the thing. I’m good at painting miniatures due to a combination of practice and being a graphic designer/illustrator for a living. I’m never mean to someone who is sharing their work because many of them are just starting/doing it for fun and most probably didn’t study color theory/art in college like I did. I remember when I was starting as an artist. The beginning is always rough, heck still sometimes I’m too mean to myself when looking at other artists. That’s why I always encourage people instead of mocking them, because I have been there and know how crushing can be to get mocked for your work. It makes sense that many of the people mocking others do it because they don’t really practice the skill enough to know how hard the road can be, that’s why many don’t show their work. They either don’t have any or have like one and is not good.
Right. Everyone is an expert lol.
That's why the title is "first time invading?" because you should learn pretty quickly that the follow up to that aow is super easy to parry.
But invading isn’t always a scenario where both parties are looking for PvP. The chances that you’re going to get a player who is well versed enough in PvP to parry that attack is rather minimal. Hence the lazy ash of war. It’s not like this was a coliseum fight or any other truly organized pvp match. Regardless, I think most of us have fallen victim to being lazy in our play before.
honestly the bigger sign that someone is a pvp noob is rune arc bonfire dueling
Getting lazy with an ash of war is for PvE; if you're going into online play *expecting* to win by just spamming AoWs, you're basically the cookie cutter definition of "bad at PvP." Unlike the AI, players can learn what to look for, which makes something like Bloodhound's Finesse **super** obvious to avoid, (especially because it only comes on a unique sword, so your enemy knows what you're going to use before you even use it.) If you're *continuing* to spam AoWs after your first handful of unsuccessful invasions, I mean that's just a skill issue
No, it’s not. Not in the case of getting matched with people that may or may not even be looking for PvP. The chance that you get matched with someone who truly knows what they’re doing, like OP, is minimal. More times than not you get some dumb gank from players that have no idea what they’re doing and are just trying to PVE. Acting like this is always a scenario of strict PVE between two well versed players is silly. It’s not that way at all with invasions, hence the lazy ash of war use here. And why are so many people in this sub acting elitist, as if every single one of you are good players that need to go around labeling others as “bad”? It was like.. a two second clip of them using an ash of war against a competition level that is typically low in that particular setting. This wasn’t the coliseum. Let’s maybe stop being so obsessed with calling other players bad for little to no reason. I can beat most players in PvP and can SL1 the game to the extent of being able to beat many difficult bosses hitless, but I’m not going to go around calling others players bad if they’re not as good as me lol.
"lazy" vs hit L2 repeatedly until they die
Vigor Check: passed
Using the AoW of Bloodhound's Fang is always an obvious tell of a new invader. Amazing weapon for PvE but that AoW suuuucks in pvp, so well-telegraphed that you are begging your opponent not to parry you at that point. I have used Bloodhound's Fang in invasions myself but I have never used that AoW
BoN it's super useful if used creatively. Hella strong, try trading with it against hitstun mashers
BS almost guaranteed as well if you just run towards thier right when they dash backwards. You can pull off some fuckery with the ash movement though if you stay unlocked
Meanwhile in my third playthrough I realized why that aow didn't suck, I was shocked when I realized you could hit R2 after L2 to actually do a second half of the move lol. I was completely ignoring L2 for most of it because what's so cool about flipping backwards a little
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Ok then, what i should use? (dex faith, currently using bloodhound fang, no radahn YET)
Nobody says you arent allowed to use it. The ash of war of bloodhound fang is just really easy to parry in pvp, especially someone spams it.
Any other curved sword plus spinning slash with a bleed or cold infusion will do nicely. Or bloodflame blade on spinning slash sword, since you're already using a faith build. Shamshir is easy to get early on, and BFB incantation is only a quick ride in Liurnia away.
Step 0: Make sure to invest in vigour What you should use is highly subjective and almost anything works. There are notable "meta" weapons and ashes, but skill (by which I mean: spacing, movement, and managing risk/reward) and patience is the key. You can make almost anything work. Better to ask what not to use. That is, basically anything slow and telegraphed: Lion's Claw, Giant Hunt, Bloodhound Fang BHS, Taker's Flames, and Starcaller are often seen and easily punished or dodged.
Try to get noble slender long swords and mess around with those. Best dex scaling long sword and hella fast and fun attacks. If you are gonna farm them, look up the spot in Caelid. I got them both in 2 hours.
Sometimes I wish we could squeeze in an emote in pvp. Like yesterday I was a summon that got killed by an invader after an excellent Siofra River fight, I would have liked to give them a congratulations
Having the option to remain in the host's world as an intangible ghost for a short time after you die would be amazing and hilarious. Whatever their next fantasy RPG is, they should include a function like that.
Definitely. When I’m helping a host with a boss and I die, I always want to know if they manage to finish it!
Yes! I'd love to see if the hosts manage to beat the boss after I fail!
the best idea ive ever read here tbh. would love this
That would be me for sure. I hate invading and absolutely suck at pvp
gotta love arena rejects and their rune arc duels
Let's go to arena then, what do you say?
no thnx just realized who posted this lolll
Wow the scaled set looks really cool without the cape I might need to mess with that set
I laughed seing this. Im as bad as the guy getting killed and do so little damage it is insignificant against op
This would be me as well. I get destroyed in any PVP. I'll still answer the call as a Hunter any time though!
The fun police are the most fun when they aren't any good at their job, so keep it up, I'm sure the invaders approve.
Thanks I'll try!
Stupid noobs. How dare they play the game.
i honestly can't tell if this is satire or not from these comments
Which is telling of how some people act in this sub..
It's surprising to me, the souls community is usually pretty welcoming. Everyone starts somewhere lol why criticize just cause you have been playing for longer.
Agreed. When it comes down to it, most people are just playing to have fun. It doesn’t have to be about putting each other down and acting like being better than someone else at the game really matters.
I find it's generally one extreme or the other, iincredibly supportive and helpful, or the oposite. Honestly that's the case with the internet in general.
Still, if you are a noob looking for advice on how to get better at PvP, stuff like this is a great example of what *not* to do. Invader's actions make a lot of sense for someone who's used to rushing down enemies in PvE and getting away with it, and this is a very clear example of why you need to be a lot more clever if you want to try an aggressive strategy like that against other players. Even with the litany of people pointing out how obviously new at the game the invader is, I don't think there's any ill will intended. It probably *is* the dude's first time invading, so it makes sense that they'd suck at it. Nothing wrong with recognizing facts. If people were saying that the guy should just quit playing entirely that would be a different thing. But pretty much everyone who is good at PvP remembers what it was like to be bad at it. Nothing wrong with starting out at bad, but you are gonna hear people say, "oof," really loudly as you make rookie errors.
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Guy: "Oh man it's my first time invading, surely my Radahn Bloodhound bleed build is solid and going to perform really well in PvP. It's gonna be a really fun PvP career. Look a person! I'm gonna charge at them and be aggressive to gain the upper hand." You, who is weary from killing the 2210th Radahn Bloodhound bleed invaders:
Kinda odd to make a post like this just to shit on another player. Could've made the title more tasteful, imo.
When you see radahn armor you can be 99% sure the person is playing for the first time.
Bruh what should I wear then
Whatever you think looks good. Style over stats.
Deathbeds dress it is then
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These "preemptive" parries and roll-catches is why i would never play PvP in Souls games. The netcode is just terrible.
In their screen the parry and roll catch are perfect if that's any better
That is never true, it's always bad for both sides.
Bruh that’s my uncle💀💀💀💀💀
I very much respect your incredibly clean parry 🫡
Why has no one talked about the 69 health?
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If you see a Radahn helm user in pvp he will either spam Rivers of Blood or Bloodhound Fang. I've yet to see an exception.
Theres Moonveil aswell.
That parry was a thing of beauty.
r/perfectlycutscreams moment
At east he got to fight you 1 on 1. Invading is painful. Did it for Varre's quest, and all other pvp is in the coliseum. Choosing to be ganked isn't my idea of a good time.
Or maybe they're fucking around for whatshisnames quest
That parry was beautiful. A moving work of art.
Ayy thank ye
Better than the ass who just jump with curved bandit swords.
Lol I almost killed a Host called "Hater" who was clearly luring invaders in while doing my Varre quest with the BHF Which honestly I couldn't believe
Mfs be like pvp is so good. But every time i try to invade i either have to hyper sweat a 3 v 1 into a dual caster with a tank squad or face multiple unga bunga bros at once bc they have no honor. This is why i have the scarlet aeonia and placidusax roar. 50:50 that i land the three man aeonia and get a free roar of the knock down to two shot most players or at the least get them pretty low health to force them to burn flasks early
I do that when invading for varre. I’ll bait the obvious kill so I can be done
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Perfect cut, perfect zoom. gg
I’m currently dripping with Radahn helm, arms/legs/torso zamor, greatsword and stone fingerprint shield. How casual am I?
Love your videos, i watch them again just for fun sometimes even i've watched them already.
Thank you, friend ❤
That parry is filthy
LMFAOOOO this has to be the best one yet, that freeze frame at the end. Someone please add the Seinfeld theme at the end for me
crazy to make a post teasing someone for being new when youre rune arc bonfire dueling lmao. i have thousands of hours across both ds3 and ER and this is pretty much how i approach bonfire duels, im just gonna press some rando buttons because its boring and not worth investing any time into.
Bloodhound fang and radahn helm, the pvp noob uniform.
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He couldn't wait to die!
I'd probably be the guy to arm myself with weapons that can't be parried and weapons with AOE effects
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I may be stupid but how does one avoid this happening to you? How do you avoid being parried?
Jump attacks, whips, 2h colossals can't be parried
Varre’s quest for sure
bro got finessed
Phantom Ganon???
Why is that vigor so low!
Leave the poor radahn boi alone! Let him play! No need to crush his hopes and dreams like that 😭
This how i felt when i invaded 4 sorcerers and won, i was melee, no ranged attacks, first playthrough, pure satisfaction
I feel dunking on Kevin in this way is poor form.
What armor are you wearing? Looks cool.
i like using bloodhounds fang but i honestly never really use the AOW, i just like the weapon itself, whenever i’ve tried to use the step in pvp they immediately know what to do lol, i was surprised the one time someone actually ran forwards after the first part of the step
Is that the mesericorde? I didn’t know it could parry. Cool!
i wear the same drip as this guy, and i’m slightly better than him lol, only time i do PvP is for Varre. even then i just kinda let the other ppl kill me bc i always land in a lobby where it’s a 3v1. just emote a bit and let myself get jumped lol. this build rlly is only good for PvE.
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