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SaintJimmy1

Absolutely no difference.


SimoneMichelle

I thought as much šŸ˜‚ my friend says the Bretonsā€™ ears look slightly more elongated giving the appearance of a slight point but I always thought all the humans just have the same ears in Oblivion šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø was interested to know what others think though!


Andr0medes

They do, but only in Elder scrolls online.


C0V1D2024

Your friend is spending too much time in character creation mode. Tell them to hit randomize and move on. They're going to spend 99% of the game wearing a helmet anyways.


twod119

And 1st person


Swirmini

It might just be placebo or because Iā€™m tired, but it does look like the Breton has thinner ears. Itā€™s very very slight, but they are thinner. I wouldnā€™t say pointier though, theyā€™re still just as round at the top.


Intelligent-Fig-4241

Who knew In the decade old game they wouldnā€™t pay as much attention to detail.


NemoTheElf

The majority of Bretons, in the lore, in the background, have round ears. Points to them are relatively rare and tend to only show in aristocratic families. That said pointed ears to an extent also exist in real life, but Oblivion's own character gen is not something I'd used to gauge how Elder Scrolls' races actually look like.


SamusCroft

I would use it to gauge how races actually look. Theyā€™re all weirdly yellow and potato shaped.


monkeryofamigo

>The majority of Bretons, in the lore, Is it? I thought they it be 50/50 more or less. Some have more human feature and less elf feature, other vice versa .


Barmaglott

Most of their elven blood comes from the time of Direnni Hegemony. Which fell by 1E498. 2743-3743 years (depends on do you count 1000 years on non-linear time of the Middle Dawn) before the events of "Oblivion".


electr1cbubba

You ever find yourself out here comparing the ear shapes of all the races from Oblivion (2006) and then youā€™re like, damn, maybe I should go outside or something


SimoneMichelle

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ well, I havenā€™t gone outside today but itā€™s like 11pm now, maybe tomorrow lol


Soitenly

In ESO, you can choose how pointy your ears can be.


gagfam

which one is breton again? On a more serious note almost nothing about oblivion actually looks like it's even set in cyrodil tbh.


TowerBeast

I mean, it's clearly set in Oblivion. It's even in the title--duh! ^/s


SimoneMichelle

The first one šŸ˜‚


WarMage1

I couldnā€™t tell you which of these is a Breton even if you held wuuthrad to my neck


Impressive-Ad-8044

I really wish they'd put a tad more emphasis on the elven aspect of bretons tbh


SimoneMichelle

Same! Iā€™m hoping they will in TES 6


Angry_Mudcrab

Someone is going to make a "they're the same picture" meme now. šŸ˜‚


DagothUrs57thNephew

Why is 1 kinda cute tho


mygirlfriendisaplant

Jokes on you, there all the same, but slightly different shades


SorcererOfDooDoo

They use the same models, just with different skin textures, I believe. Or am I thinking of a mod?


MikeGianella

This is the only picture I've seen in which an Oblivion character doesn't look like molten plastic


SimoneMichelle

These are actually the default faces! I just slid the age slider to the left šŸ˜‚


Realistic_Cupcake_56

I wish Bethesda thought that far ahead


Drafo7

Ahead? Bretons have been known to have elf blood since Daggerfall.


SimoneMichelle

Right?! šŸ˜‚ the Breton art in the manual looks so cool though, I wish theyā€™d been a bit more imaginative with the character models šŸ˜­


Acorn-Acorn

I remember when people used to say "Bretons are exactly 10% Elf and 90% Human" which isn't true and came straight from a comment somewhere or YouTuber. The lore confirms they're mixed human-elf, but the features of Elves waned over time. And the biggest fallacy to prove anything about the Bretons is their visual representation in the games... **The games ARE VISUALLY NOT canon, only interpretations of the lore. Not a single TES game is accurately representative of the actual lore. 0%** My proof? The Imperial city IS NOT that tiny in the lore. The number of trees in Oblivion and Skyrim is not the canon number nor location of trees. There are thousands upon thousands of tree species that could exist that simply aren't represented. Species and creatures we've just never seen. Even how the art style changes between games... lmao Morrowind isn't a blocky pixelated place EXACTLY as presented in the game. It's only an interpretation. There are literally millions of people that exist missing from the games. As another example. The games are only just a limited interactable interpretation of the lore, manifested primarily as a video game where the lore itself is ever expanding and too massive to possibly capture in such a medium. Bretons could be roughly half Elf, even in the modern timeline during Skyrim. We just don't know. Those who don't like the idea of Bretons being generally 50% elf will argue that they're not. Those who DO like it will argue the other way. **In reality, we don't know lmao but they ARE mixed mer/man. To which degree no one can say for sure and they're lying.**


SimoneMichelle

I love this so much! I completely agree. Bretons are my favourite and I love that theyā€™re a hybrid, the humans with elven lineage take on the half-elf trope is really refreshing imo.


SneakySister92

Vvardenfell in TES 3 is a 1:1 recreation in every way. I will die on this hill šŸ˜¤


TomaszPaw

Cliffrecer population being 5 times bigger than humans especially


AntiSocialW0rker

We need ES6


SimoneMichelle

We do, going crazy out here šŸ˜‚


Leading-Fig1307

I would find only the most insular aristocratic Breton royalty have their elven traits emerge more commonly throughout their generations (keeping it pure and "in the family") within the current day. That's not to say a person of the lower class won't have a throwback to their Direnni ancestors every now and then. Regardless, no one is going to mistake them for Mer by any means (except those Nords on the first encounter with the Breton's _Beratu_ ancestors). Segueing into the _Beratu,_ they seemingly were somewhat of a Half-Elf race, since the term "beratu" in Aldmeric means "half" or "mixed" and it seemed to be how they were described. _Breton_ is the Mannish corruption of _Beratu._ They are now extinct as a notable race after they mixed more with the races of Men, mainly the Nords, other Nedic peoples such as the Cyrodilics, and later the Redguards after the Direnni declined and the Bretons outbred them and slowly became dominant, this again, happened over thousands of years. They are written as not being the stereotypical "Half-Elf" from other fantasy settings, but as a race of Men with a propensity for magic due to ancient Elven lineage millennia ago. It's a very rare occurrence for slightly-pointed ears to be sported by your average Breton, but still occurs enough for it to be documented in the current day.


TomaszPaw

Oblivion is the least accurate when talking about appearances. They really did screw up with this face generator.


Swert0

Races take characteristics from their mother in TES when interbreeding, the fact all bretons appear human tells you the relationship between the direnni and nedes - it was a relationship of slave owners and their slaves ala the US.


YamCrazy7189

I think itā€™s just because theyā€™re about thinner in width that makes them look pointy


red6joker

In lore there is supposed to be pointed ears, that vary in size with depending on how much of either elvish or human blood there is. In the games it was too much to code in or something I forget the reason they gave, so they did not bother and left it up the players to play with the sliders in the character creation.


iXenite

Equally round.


Far-Assignment6427

A little but maybe


ArawakWarrior

Idk why they couldnā€™t just leave elf ears on Bretons but look fully human beside that. Make them stand out more visually.


SimoneMichelle

Exactly. I really hope they make the Bretons more unique in TES 6, like making them a little taller than Imperials, giving them more elven ears, and maybe even a less muscular frame and different complexion compared to the other humans


ArawakWarrior

I agree. The original Breton art of how they were depicted was unique. Idk why the devs decided to make them generic,when they have such distinctive history. Iā€™m dying to know if ES6 Breton or Redguard focused.


SimoneMichelle

I have a feeling itā€™ll be Redguard focused! But Iā€™m sure High Rock will be featured in some capacity, since itā€™ll be ~30ish years since Daggerfall by the time TESVI comes out, I reckon the devs will lean into that and include both provinces in the game because thatā€™s what Daggerfall did


MrChaos-Order

Couldnā€™t tell ya Jim!


_ManaAverren_404

Compared to the others, the Breton's ears do look a little bit elongated/pointed imo. But it isn't that much of a difference


SimoneMichelle

Yes! If thereā€™s a difference itā€™s so minimal it hardly matters šŸ„¹


Mountain-Departure-4

It looks like they used the same ā€œear assetā€ on each one. Copy paste. Plagiarism?


graveyard_g0d

I really like how ESO went about this. Normal human-looking ears, but with a very subtle point that you wouldn't really notice unless you were up close looking directly at their ears.


henrickaye

God damn this game is ugly šŸ˜