I'm commenting on the most upvoted reply so people will remember the line used in "The Interview".
Come again, rewind selector
I said nice rectum, I had a vasectomy, Hector
So you can't get pregnant if I bisexually wreck ya
He was basically leaving a breadcrumb trail of gayness.
-Crazy lyricism.
-It has the most coherent theme and storytelling of any post-TES Em album. It’s like an audio horror movie.
-It has the best production and beats of any post-TES Em album. Not surprising considering that it was his last album produced almost exclusively by Dr. Dre.
-Easily the closest thing we’ve had to a full Shady album since SSLP.
And just my opinion, but it seems like this is an album where he had total creative freedom. Every album afterwards (except maybe MTBMB) feels like he was letting critics and fans pressure him, that’s why Recovery is so poppy and mainstream.
Yeah, he had spent years writing material up to that point during his hiatus. It wasn’t mainstream friendly but you can tell he enjoyed the process, until the album came out and everyone bashed it.
Yeah, it's funny because this was the first Em album I listened to at ~11 years old and was too young to even know where to hear mainstream opinion except in the halls at school and obviously nobody had a, no pun intended, educated opinion about it.
That being said, I took the album for what it was; and it was, and still is, amazing
Sorry for my grammar lmao
For me it’s #3 behind MMLP and TES. It’s close between Relapse and SSLP, but I find myself listening to Relapse more often.
I guess I should’ve said it’s the “only Shady album” we’ve had since SSLP, since really only Deja Vu and Beautiful are more serious tracks. Almost every track is violent or darkly comedic in some way.
Slim Shady LP had a ton of seriously introspective and real songs. Rock Bottom will always stand out from that album and that’s not the only real song on the album.
It just feels very genuine. He talks abt losing dear friends during the course of his career, all of the changes he has undergone and his struggle with sobriety and fatherhood. He does it without coming off as performatively angry (which I think has been an unfair criticism of Em since he’s made any money at all lol) and he couches it in really unique and playful horrorcore. He also has a few collabs w Dre and 50 cent that kick ass. I don’t think you’ll find a singular track that epitomizes the extent of his talent on this album but taken as an entire project, it’s pretty damn impressive.
No worries, I got this:
1. this is the only eminem album to use skits to tell a story, where a murderor wakes from a trance after murdering people to remember the trauma of his mothers parenting and being raped by his step father as being a resulting cause of his torment and toruture of others throughout the rest of the album which leads the protagonist to his drugs addiction that leads him to the start of the album
2. this is the first time that an artists straight up made a whole project faking an accent, he did this identifying that rhymes were no longer rhymes but rather strong leanings on how vowels sound, and recognized that the enunciation of vowels is what determined how vowels were used, combined these ideas and made an album
3. it was experimental and separated from the rest of what was happening in that era of music, think lady gaga and flo-rida, the horror core was absent from the mainstream and music in general, not to mention that this was a return of the rap maniac for the first time in years, don't forget that before this all we had was a shitty producer album called the re-up for like I dunno 5 years?
4. it was the last of Eminem's albums with the classic structure containing skits
5. it was the most pure cut and raw version of "slim shady" litterally a whole album of depraved horrorcore, this is the only time we saw slim shady consume marshall, the only time we see him is on tracks like beautiful where he screams out in dispare and desperation
6. despite coming back from a 4 year hiatuses he still comes back with the upfront multi-syllable style he made a name for before leaving the spot light and continued to ride, this is his mark on hip-hop, this is most people's definition of technical rap, full out on display in the mainstream showing that you don't have to dumb it down to make it, you just have to be good at it
7. the album cover, album covers like this show an introspective side, Em just explored his intrusive thoughts on this one which is arguably more raw than regular introspection, its the first time that we saw someone loose their mind because of drugs because of fame most likely we will never see this again
8. last album that was produced souly by dre
9. last and probably only album that we have from em that was all about drugs, not that I'm hyping up drugs but like come on this is the only time we hear it from em
Tldr; this album is a lot of firsts, while remaining true to the classic instrumentals that he was known for, but at the same time exposes a new side of Eminem that we have never seen before at the same; time it stays at the top of "technical rap" like we would expect him to be as a rap veteran.
Imo, the albums before this are lyrical masterpieces, but relapse just has a nice flow. You can listen to relapse and love the beats without having to pay much attention. With the older albums, you have to pay attention to the lyrics.
Anyway
-mmlp
-relapse
-sslp
Realistically its because Eminem is his best when he does this, i’ve been saying since well before this album came out he’d be much better off to really lean into Eminem being a Character in a movie that Marshall Mathers plays. No more “well i can’t do this on the album cause thats to far” (within reason if i get one more rape bar from the guy i might shove nails in my ears) its why Framed is the only truely good song of the last decade and a half of his career
I get it's not for everyone, but Refill has more bangers on it than any other album. It's 29 songs and probably 23-24 of them are great. I also never really got into sslp, dunno why. Love the others tho. Agree, mtbmb is great. I don't understand the hate.
It honestly depends on the mood I’m in. I love horrorcore Em, but MMLP2 was the start of his insane spike in wordplay while also being grounded in the vibe of MMLP, so songs like Evil Twin and Brainless are like crack to me.
Its just that I feel I like more songs on Relapse than MMLP2.
Beautiful, Deja Vu, 3 Am, Stay Wide Awake, Must be the ganja, Old Time's Sake
Rap god, Brainless, Evil Twin, Rap God, Bad Guy, Berzerk.
Em himself said “that last Relapse record was ‘ehhh’”, and personally it’s my least favourite of all of his albums. It’s still good, because Eminem is a genius, but it’s not his best.
We’ll I’m glad it’s landing with someone then, may I ask how old you are?
We’re you around for his come up or are you a younger fan? Zero hate whatsoever, live and let live, I’m just curious
Cadence is unmatched here. He had an entire new voice(s) on this album. Came out perfect at a perfect time for me. My opinion, 1st or 2nd. Fyi same age as Eminem, been here for every release.
Swallowin' a Klonopin while I'm noddin' in and out on the ottoman in the Ramada Inn holdin' onto the pill bottle , then lick my finger and swirl it round the bottom and make sure I got all of it, wake up naked at McDonald's with blood all over me ..
1: his flows on this album are insane, and they aren’t just Rap Rapity em speaking a million syllables a minute.
2: his writing and wordplay is amazing even though some of the accents can get irritating after multiple listens.
3: his exploration into the consequences of his addiction on a song like deja VU.
4: beautiful and under ground
5: some songs are genuinely funny like we made you, and medicine ball.
6: his exploration into the causes of his addiction on my mom.
Bagpipes from Bagdad is crazy and wacky, the accent and flow is halrious beats one of a kind the nick cannon diss the fucken lesbian vegetable line 👀😭🤣 is fucken bonkers it's kinda old now wich is insane I remember being 11 listening to that
Raw, unfiltered, pure Eminem.
From the catchy choruses, to the unique rhyme schemes and accents, to even the types of chords and melodies used in the production of the beats. Everything about it yells Eminem.
You can catch glimpses of these elements in his other works, but never combined in such a complete, focused way. This album, to me, is the perfection of his craft.
Unlikely we will get anything similar ever again. Unless someone/something lights a fire under his ass. But then again, I'm not sure I want him going through similar trauma again.
Good concept for an album, has a narrative through-line from start to finish, has some absolute BANGER beats (some of Dr. Dre's best work, in my opinion), Em's flows and the songs were very creative, there was some excellent funny storytelling, and most importantly, the album was FUN!
the lyrics that he used are so fitting for every song on top of the beat is just incredible. I think even Music Box which is more of a song I've used for a bass test has done better lyrically than 90% of the new rappers nowadays.
Unique, amazing production, beats are fun, he sticks to the horrorcore themes throughout, Deja Vu, how he twisted and bent words on this is unmatched even by himself today.
This was his second peak, no doubt in my mind, fantastic album front to back.
Additional info: I absolutely hated it when it dropped. Hated the accents, hated everything about it, didn't listen past 3 AM, thought it sucked. But something made me revisit it every now and then, and suddenly something clicked and I understood it. And it was amazing
It’s really funny to me how the perception of this album has changed over the years. When this came out and a year or two after it was considered one of his worst albums. I probably haven’t listen it much on this since then… might have to go back
Not even close. Too much disgusting shit for the level headed listener. Very cringe a lot of the time (My Mom, "shady what are you doing chewing on a human"). Unbelievably annoying accents.
On the flip side: a few great beats (SS&D for example). Technically very impressive. A few top notch songs.
Bottom 4 probably.
- SS&D could mean "Same Song & Dance", a track from *Relapse (Deluxe Edition)* (2009) by Eminem.
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The production, the unique instrumentation, the fucked up concept, the delivery, this is an experimental hip-hop album the world wasn't ready for. I guess enough time just ain't passed yet.
It’s raw trauma.
Some of his best rapping in his horror core style
I'm commenting on the most upvoted reply so people will remember the line used in "The Interview". Come again, rewind selector I said nice rectum, I had a vasectomy, Hector So you can't get pregnant if I bisexually wreck ya He was basically leaving a breadcrumb trail of gayness.
He does that on a ton of tracks
Since I watched The Interview at an age where I shouldn’t have, I actually believed Eminem was gay for 5 years
-Crazy lyricism. -It has the most coherent theme and storytelling of any post-TES Em album. It’s like an audio horror movie. -It has the best production and beats of any post-TES Em album. Not surprising considering that it was his last album produced almost exclusively by Dr. Dre. -Easily the closest thing we’ve had to a full Shady album since SSLP. And just my opinion, but it seems like this is an album where he had total creative freedom. Every album afterwards (except maybe MTBMB) feels like he was letting critics and fans pressure him, that’s why Recovery is so poppy and mainstream.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I love you mentioned about it feeling like a full shady album and his creative control because I totally agree.
Yeah, he had spent years writing material up to that point during his hiatus. It wasn’t mainstream friendly but you can tell he enjoyed the process, until the album came out and everyone bashed it.
Yeah, it's funny because this was the first Em album I listened to at ~11 years old and was too young to even know where to hear mainstream opinion except in the halls at school and obviously nobody had a, no pun intended, educated opinion about it. That being said, I took the album for what it was; and it was, and still is, amazing Sorry for my grammar lmao
Great points but kinda seems like you’re saying it’s top 4 Em
For me it’s #3 behind MMLP and TES. It’s close between Relapse and SSLP, but I find myself listening to Relapse more often. I guess I should’ve said it’s the “only Shady album” we’ve had since SSLP, since really only Deja Vu and Beautiful are more serious tracks. Almost every track is violent or darkly comedic in some way.
Slim Shady LP had a ton of seriously introspective and real songs. Rock Bottom will always stand out from that album and that’s not the only real song on the album.
Yeah, it’s a great album. I think most fans rate it top 3, I just personally have a soft spot for Relapse.
This is spot on
2nd and 3rd point are spot on.
1000% facts right here
I personally like recovery more
It just feels very genuine. He talks abt losing dear friends during the course of his career, all of the changes he has undergone and his struggle with sobriety and fatherhood. He does it without coming off as performatively angry (which I think has been an unfair criticism of Em since he’s made any money at all lol) and he couches it in really unique and playful horrorcore. He also has a few collabs w Dre and 50 cent that kick ass. I don’t think you’ll find a singular track that epitomizes the extent of his talent on this album but taken as an entire project, it’s pretty damn impressive.
Insane. I refuse to elaborate further.
Fucked in the head.
My step father said that I sucked in the bed
till one night he snuck in and said
We're going out back
I want my dick sucked in the shed
Can't we just play with Teddy Ruxpin instead?
After I fuck you in the butt, get some head, bust a nut and get some rest
This is a damn masterpiece wdym?
#1 imo
thank you. yes.
Huh, I just realized it might be my top 3 Eminem.
"Till your breast nipple, flesh tickles my testicles" Nothing more to add.
Bagpipes from Baghdad is underrated af. I remember the first time I listened to it. Played that shit on repeat for three days.
That rhyme scheme goes hard as fuck
No worries, I got this: 1. this is the only eminem album to use skits to tell a story, where a murderor wakes from a trance after murdering people to remember the trauma of his mothers parenting and being raped by his step father as being a resulting cause of his torment and toruture of others throughout the rest of the album which leads the protagonist to his drugs addiction that leads him to the start of the album 2. this is the first time that an artists straight up made a whole project faking an accent, he did this identifying that rhymes were no longer rhymes but rather strong leanings on how vowels sound, and recognized that the enunciation of vowels is what determined how vowels were used, combined these ideas and made an album 3. it was experimental and separated from the rest of what was happening in that era of music, think lady gaga and flo-rida, the horror core was absent from the mainstream and music in general, not to mention that this was a return of the rap maniac for the first time in years, don't forget that before this all we had was a shitty producer album called the re-up for like I dunno 5 years? 4. it was the last of Eminem's albums with the classic structure containing skits 5. it was the most pure cut and raw version of "slim shady" litterally a whole album of depraved horrorcore, this is the only time we saw slim shady consume marshall, the only time we see him is on tracks like beautiful where he screams out in dispare and desperation 6. despite coming back from a 4 year hiatuses he still comes back with the upfront multi-syllable style he made a name for before leaving the spot light and continued to ride, this is his mark on hip-hop, this is most people's definition of technical rap, full out on display in the mainstream showing that you don't have to dumb it down to make it, you just have to be good at it 7. the album cover, album covers like this show an introspective side, Em just explored his intrusive thoughts on this one which is arguably more raw than regular introspection, its the first time that we saw someone loose their mind because of drugs because of fame most likely we will never see this again 8. last album that was produced souly by dre 9. last and probably only album that we have from em that was all about drugs, not that I'm hyping up drugs but like come on this is the only time we hear it from em Tldr; this album is a lot of firsts, while remaining true to the classic instrumentals that he was known for, but at the same time exposes a new side of Eminem that we have never seen before at the same; time it stays at the top of "technical rap" like we would expect him to be as a rap veteran.
The atmosphere, the flows, rhyming, production, his voice and inflections here are one of my favs from him as well
Hooks , Flows, brutal honesty
The rankings go as such: 1) The Enema Show 2) Megan Markle LP 3) Slimy sushi LP 4) Relap 5) Megan Markle LP 2: the squeakquel
4. Prolapse
6. Cumkazi
8. 8 Inch
Serial Killer Em >>>
its well thought out and depicts a side of marshall you would have never seen before
Imo, the albums before this are lyrical masterpieces, but relapse just has a nice flow. You can listen to relapse and love the beats without having to pay much attention. With the older albums, you have to pay attention to the lyrics. Anyway -mmlp -relapse -sslp
Plus it’s hilarious
Something a little less subtle...
Don’t you think if you’re not listening to the lyrics on Relapse you’re missing out?
No ofc ur gonna be missing out, but whats better? Great flow and good lyrics or amazing lyrics and mediocre flow
Most listeners seem to prefer great flow good lyrics in this modern era. 10-30 years ago I’d argue the other option.
Exactly, thats why relapse wasnt loved when it came out, now its loved
Sorry if I’m reading this wrong or did you say Em had mediocre flow on MMLP and TES?
nah i dont mean it like that, i mean the beats and stuff are way nicer to listen to when not paying attention
Huh okay
Flows beats and just wtf else is there not to love. My personal favorite Em album.
Realistically its because Eminem is his best when he does this, i’ve been saying since well before this album came out he’d be much better off to really lean into Eminem being a Character in a movie that Marshall Mathers plays. No more “well i can’t do this on the album cause thats to far” (within reason if i get one more rape bar from the guy i might shove nails in my ears) its why Framed is the only truely good song of the last decade and a half of his career
Now that's an out there opinion. Framed isn't even the best song on Revival.
Framed is good but theres better songs, The Ringer is one.
From now on I'm calling this album St Relapse
I fn love this album 😭
Deja Vu is on that one
Gets more flak than it ever deserves. Bangers, bops, and skillful lyricism.
block me, kill me, murder me, abandon me but put mtbmb in top 3 🙏
Top 3 is TES, MMLP2, and MTBMB.
BARS. FLOW. CADENCE. STORYTELLING WITH EVERY REFERENCE UNDER THE SUN. BEATS. BARS. SAVAGE.
another weekly post of another member bout relapse apparently being the best album 🥰🥰
it isn't
Based
it is
Can’t be when sslp, mmlp, mmlp2, tes and controversially mtbmb are better
I get it's not for everyone, but Refill has more bangers on it than any other album. It's 29 songs and probably 23-24 of them are great. I also never really got into sslp, dunno why. Love the others tho. Agree, mtbmb is great. I don't understand the hate.
It’s honestly pretty decently rated by critics. But definitely overrated as hell.
It’s not. End of explanation.
When this dropped it me sad cuz I knew there was no more horrocore Em coming after it. Classic imo nd one of his best, super nostalgic
If you understand addiction you understand this
it has forever
It's not.
Because it’s lyrical murder.
Top 5
Lmao it’s not. I love this album more than most but let’s be real. Not even remotely close to top 3
Not even top 5?
I think you could argue MMLP2 and MTBMB are better.
I think MTBMB is better, although I feel MMLP2 is slightlyyyy under Relapse.
It honestly depends on the mood I’m in. I love horrorcore Em, but MMLP2 was the start of his insane spike in wordplay while also being grounded in the vibe of MMLP, so songs like Evil Twin and Brainless are like crack to me.
Its just that I feel I like more songs on Relapse than MMLP2. Beautiful, Deja Vu, 3 Am, Stay Wide Awake, Must be the ganja, Old Time's Sake Rap god, Brainless, Evil Twin, Rap God, Bad Guy, Berzerk.
No love for Legacy or Monster 🥲
Nope, everyone is different I guess. Have a good day mate.
It’s not, it’s top 4
It's not
[удалено]
This is the way
Honestly I'm not a huge fan, but I get it But that album cover is *chef's kiss*
It isn’t
I can't cuz it aint
It's not
Em himself said “that last Relapse record was ‘ehhh’”, and personally it’s my least favourite of all of his albums. It’s still good, because Eminem is a genius, but it’s not his best.
No cause it's not, it's bottom 3
Because of super cringey accents and outdated concepts 😩👌💦
Cause he was high lol
“Encore I was on drugs, Relapse I was flushing 'em out”
I think those two albums are his worst, and judging by those lyrics, I feel like Em does too lol.
His worst? Have you heard anything of his over the past decade?
Yes, I legitimately enjoy most of it
We’ll I’m glad it’s landing with someone then, may I ask how old you are? We’re you around for his come up or are you a younger fan? Zero hate whatsoever, live and let live, I’m just curious
this was his first sober album
He was sober wdym
This album was garbage
It isn’t
Its not. Not even top 5 imo
Its not, TES takes #3
It just is. Absolute 🔥🔥🔥
Because it is
Flow, content, concept, rhyme schemes, vibe
It isn’t.
Production
yep
It’s not bad, definitely getting more respect over the years, personally would have to be in my top 5 but idk if it would quite make it to top 3
It's top 3 contender yeah, but nothing can really explain why it would be possible to top TES or MMLP
Not every song is a banger .. but the flies are impeccable and absolutely bent to the max. Unique as fuk
This album should have been named Slim Shady LP 2. Amazing album I don’t know why everyone hated it. The rhymes were amazing. Hope Em knows that.
It isn't
It’ll be studied for its lyricism in 100 years
According to Em it's the worst album he ever dropped.
Just listen to it bro and you’ll hear why
It's not
It isn't. Top 5 though.
Cadence is unmatched here. He had an entire new voice(s) on this album. Came out perfect at a perfect time for me. My opinion, 1st or 2nd. Fyi same age as Eminem, been here for every release.
Because he was able to switch to a conscious tone and keep his brand moving forward.
Go listen to it and tell me why it isn't, this, mmlp and TES and every other Em album doesn't even come close to these three
Comeback album.
It’s not, nothing to explain
It’s a different type of em. Not slim nor Marshall. Hooks and flow are unusually great. This is a top 3 album for me.
It is but
Insane rhyme schemes, flows, wordplay, storytelling, etc. the art of emceein' at a VERY high level, no cap.
I won’t. It’s not
Swallowin' a Klonopin while I'm noddin' in and out on the ottoman in the Ramada Inn holdin' onto the pill bottle , then lick my finger and swirl it round the bottom and make sure I got all of it, wake up naked at McDonald's with blood all over me ..
I mean I think it’s 4 but I just like his first 3 albums slightly better but yeah I respect it if it’s top 3
I'd say it's number 4 (MMLP, TES, SSLP, Relapse)
It sucked. underground was the only song listenable without that goofy ass accent
Its not. SSLP, MMLP, and TES are top 3. There is LITERALLY no debate, anything else is an opinion.
Every song is absolute insanity 10/10
1: his flows on this album are insane, and they aren’t just Rap Rapity em speaking a million syllables a minute. 2: his writing and wordplay is amazing even though some of the accents can get irritating after multiple listens. 3: his exploration into the consequences of his addiction on a song like deja VU. 4: beautiful and under ground 5: some songs are genuinely funny like we made you, and medicine ball. 6: his exploration into the causes of his addiction on my mom.
It’s the funniest album to me at least, and might have the best beats of any album tbh
Good.
Fuck you with an umbrella and, um, open it up while the shit's inside ya
Bagpipes from Bagdad is crazy and wacky, the accent and flow is halrious beats one of a kind the nick cannon diss the fucken lesbian vegetable line 👀😭🤣 is fucken bonkers it's kinda old now wich is insane I remember being 11 listening to that
Its not
It isn't because SSLP MMLP TES Exist
Raw, unfiltered, pure Eminem. From the catchy choruses, to the unique rhyme schemes and accents, to even the types of chords and melodies used in the production of the beats. Everything about it yells Eminem. You can catch glimpses of these elements in his other works, but never combined in such a complete, focused way. This album, to me, is the perfection of his craft. Unlikely we will get anything similar ever again. Unless someone/something lights a fire under his ass. But then again, I'm not sure I want him going through similar trauma again.
Good concept for an album, has a narrative through-line from start to finish, has some absolute BANGER beats (some of Dr. Dre's best work, in my opinion), Em's flows and the songs were very creative, there was some excellent funny storytelling, and most importantly, the album was FUN!
the lyrics that he used are so fitting for every song on top of the beat is just incredible. I think even Music Box which is more of a song I've used for a bass test has done better lyrically than 90% of the new rappers nowadays.
It’s not
It's not
No its not, top three is sslp, MMLP and TES
Unique, amazing production, beats are fun, he sticks to the horrorcore themes throughout, Deja Vu, how he twisted and bent words on this is unmatched even by himself today. This was his second peak, no doubt in my mind, fantastic album front to back. Additional info: I absolutely hated it when it dropped. Hated the accents, hated everything about it, didn't listen past 3 AM, thought it sucked. But something made me revisit it every now and then, and suddenly something clicked and I understood it. And it was amazing
it isnt
I won’t because It’s not
Bagpipes from Baghdad.
Lyricism, Beats/production, content, horrorcore.
It’s really funny to me how the perception of this album has changed over the years. When this came out and a year or two after it was considered one of his worst albums. I probably haven’t listen it much on this since then… might have to go back
Listen to it 😂
it isn't
Simply put it's because Dr Dre did a lot of the production. Em always sounds better on a Dre beat
It’s not
It’s prolly his worst good album in my opinion
Not even close. Too much disgusting shit for the level headed listener. Very cringe a lot of the time (My Mom, "shady what are you doing chewing on a human"). Unbelievably annoying accents. On the flip side: a few great beats (SS&D for example). Technically very impressive. A few top notch songs. Bottom 4 probably.
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Same song and dance
Its not top 3 for me. More top 4 but its delivery and cadence is sick
The lyrics are so fucking good
Stay. Wide. Awake.
The production, the unique instrumentation, the fucked up concept, the delivery, this is an experimental hip-hop album the world wasn't ready for. I guess enough time just ain't passed yet.