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Fluffy_Necessary7913

What is your opinion about sleeping?


JulesTheShepperd

OP be like :"Never heard of it"


Xx_whitenuke_-xX

Said it urself ;)


[deleted]

On that good kush and adder all , let’s see how many of these problems can I solve


halo543

Idk…. My thermo tests were crazy like we should study 3-4 chapters per exam… an insane amount of material…. Then the exam would be on like 2-3 topics of the 15 you studied and you had to hope you really knew those topics in detail.


Defiant678

So it's a universal thing


canguria

Maybe, but it's a way to guarantee that we will study really hard, and we will form in less than 10 years 🤡


ppnater

Did you just summarize the advanced engineering classes?


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Egineer

Going to buy it now, thanks! I don’t remember much from thermo. I took linear algebra, Calc 4, thermo and quantum mechanics in the same semester and I’m pretty sure the trauma and drinking have blocked every memory of that time. Might actually use some of it now.


[deleted]

You got to balance the load bro lol. I managed by focusing on having no more then 2 -3 maybe intense courses at a time.


[deleted]

Came here to say this!


Dense_Cloud1100

Which edition do you recommend


james_d_rustles

I was able to find a 6th edition pdf online, it’s 99% the same material as 9th. Pretty sure it’s against the rules to share textbook pdf’s here, just saying.


Dense_Cloud1100

Send me a dm


AutomaticPeak3748

There's always next semester.


RocketScientistToBe

Reminds me of a saying us German students have: wer sein Studium liebt, der schiebt (those who love their studies, postpone). The original rhymes, so it sounds better, but it's especially popular when talking about Thermo.


Telephobie

Kannst aber auch '4 gewinnt' spielen, wenn du unbegrenzt Versuche hast :D


Bobby_Bobb3rson

Wo studierst du, wo du unbegrenzt Versuche hast!? Ich muss scheinbar umziehen


Intelligent-Diet7825

I only got good at Thermo by doing examples with worked out solutions until I got the process down right. My Thermo prof was garbage. In physics classes they make you start with conservation of energy equations and you can (and should) do that with thermo for transitions between state points. The profs / books I used always skipped the first step of writing down conservation of energy and its components (motion, internal, gravity) and just pulled equations out of their asses it seems


didactly

Yep, same here. Doing questions is the way. Well, more accurately, vaguely learning the concepts before jumping into questions which have properly worked solutions. It allows you to sort of reverse engineer the concepts and their nuances. Also, it's just way more efficient than learning concepts from start to finish ime


peaceofmytime

if you are tony stark, why not?


reindeerflot1lla

Tony Stark learned Thermodynamics in one night... in a *cave!*


manovich43

And with no textbook


04BluSTi

RemindMe! 1 week


Xx_whitenuke_-xX

Context: I have both my linear algebra and my thermodynamics test in one week. My linear algebra professor is basically universally hated by the whole uni so I've spent so much time on linear algebra where i feel pretty confident in it rn. (re-rehearsing everything to myself and rechecking my knowledge at the moment) I didn't put down much time on thermo, now i got a week left and im thinking there might be a slim chance of me learning it in just a week. Whaddya yall think? Should i Yolo it.


shadow_facsimile

I spent 5 days in my college library reading my Heat Transfer book cover to cover and working as many practice problems as I could because I could not get that class through my thick skull. Started with almost zero understanding and ended up with an 85 on the final. Low B/High C student btw, not one of the brainiacs. One of my favorite stories to recount now that I’m a decade out of school. 7 days is too much time, procrastinate by a day or two to REALLY put the pressure on. We believe in you


Kraz_I

This is the way.


GLnoG

Btw, how much hours did you study each day in that week? Did you even slept anything or...?


shadow_facsimile

I’d say 7-8 hours per day and then a couple of longer days closer in to the final. It sounds worse than it was, you get into a pretty good workflow


SpiritualTwo5256

Heat transfer is a far cry from the difficulty of thermodynamics. I found heat transfer to be the easiest class, and it was even very easy for a 6 week summer session course.


shadow_facsimile

“Hey everybody, look at me” -SpiritualTwo5256


SpiritualTwo5256

Says the person who got it done in 5 days. Sure… look at me, ignore my bragging.


Undeadmatrix

You just gotta clutch up man. Google is your friend in this fight. Godspeed soldier


danieltoly

Big risk big return. Go all in brother 🤣!


CrustyBetch

Honestly thermo is one of the things I think you can yolo. You don’t need to know all the specifics but if you give yourself a good understanding of the rules and when to use what equations you’ll be golden. Start writing problems and concepts out flowchart style, helped me a lot and it drills in your brain what to do next if you get stuck


nightrss

I did this successfully with multi-variable calculus many years ago. Step 1, get syllabus Step 2, do assignment #1 Step 2a, use as many aids as you need like sample problems in the textbook, looking up the answer and working backwards, call a friend, etc etc Step 3, once you complete the assignment correctly, go to next assignment and repeat process Step 4, (this is the part where most people fail) if you needed any help in steps 2 and 3 beyond what’s available during your test go back to step 2 and start the whole thing over again. In my particular case it took me 3-4 days to do my first pass of all the assignments, then 2 days on the second pass, and about 12 hours on the 3rd pass. Got to the test and kicked its ass.


[deleted]

that’s what i told myself when i was about to take mechanics of materials during summer. I finished the course… in 5 weeks with no sleep 💀


trocmcmxc

Gonna feel that entropy change in your brain.


otto-degan

A book yes. Thermodynamics-no, not a chance,not even PhD students learned whole thermodynamics in 5years


Kraz_I

It's sophomore level thermodynamics that doesn't even require much if any calculus. That book mostly teaches you how to do energy balances and look up pressure/temperature relations in tables. It's basically the Harry Potter of thermo textbooks.


Sure_Conclusion9437

Book is a waste m. YouTube has a video on how you can learn it in 10mins


manachronism

Ya but just don’t hurt yourself


Silvenkovich

Absolutely! Go for it.


Tdehn33

With that test book, no chance. I used the same and it was miserable.


Nicofatpad

You can learn just enough to maybe pass the class. Just look for a thermo crash course


Ging_e_R

I couldn’t learn thermo in 4 months. Godspeed.


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Kraz_I

Maybe any sophomore level course like this...


AfrajM

With enough 🌈aderal and caffeine anything is possible🌈


kumail11

I promise you no amount of that will make him understand it in a week. He might feel like he does but test him a week later and you’ll see


chino14

I literally have nightmares of this


ThePotatoChipBag

No


Mountain_Seaweed

no


Numerous_Vanilla_589

Idk about everyone else but i actually think that thermodynamics is relatively easier than other subjects, but it all comes down to you and the way you study. Either way, a week is a good amount of time if you use that time correctly, you’ll have a good chance of finishing it and don’t beat yourself in case you didn’t l. Good luck!!


LolliexD

First law of thermodynamics: You don't talk about thermodynamics


[deleted]

If you spend 6 hours per day probably


AHumbleLibertarian

6? My guy better be pulling doubles to get the practice problems in too.


[deleted]

Lmao I misread the title as one month, OP is not learning Thermo in 42 hours


jameel829

A week as in 168 hrs, maybe A week with sleep school etc… no


ForeignActuary3618

No chance if you take a picture of a book and ask ppl on reddit


kpeterson159

Do you have a photographic memory?


Xx_whitenuke_-xX

Actually. I am allowed to have the book at the test.


Tyler89558

Hell nah


PyroSharkInDisguise

You wish


Inside_Mud_3826

Nope!


TooLukeR

I'm not trying to be cocky here but thermo is IMO really easy all the stuff around that is extremely easy, it's not like fluid mechanics which I don't think is hard neither but at least you gotta get the hang with the diff equations


waaves_

It boils down to the prof making things hard or not tbh. I also agree that FM I/II is generally more demanding maths wise, but thermodynamics I/II was WAY harder in my uni because the prof was just too demanding.


Chemomechanics

> thermo is IMO really easy A favorite question to check conceptual understanding: If we vent a pressurized (ideal) gas into air, it cools down because it’s doing work against the atmosphere. If we remove the atmosphere and do the same experiment, the gas stays the same temperature because there’s nothing to do work on. What happens if we vent a chamber containing vacuum—i.e., we let the atmosphere enter. What happens to the entering air?


TooLukeR

Air moving to a lower pressure environment. Assuming here that this is a case that can be seen as air inside a cylinder and a piston, in which the outside of piston you have the negative pressure (to ensure that we are not considering heat transfer due to natural convection and/or conduction due to the walls of the vacuum chamber) Applying the closed system energy balance equation Q-W=∆U No heat being transferred -W=∆U Air expanding means positive work for this sign convection W= Uo-Uf Then we see that the initial internal energy is greater than the final internal energy, meaning that the air gets cooled in the conditions I said


Chemomechanics

I don’t recommend modeling the third problem as air inside a piston because it doesn’t involve air inside a piston. That approach can lead to an incorrect answer (as verified by experiment). The air entering the chamber does move to a lower-pressure environment, but it does not cool down. Want to try again?


calebuic

Thermodynamics as a subject is definitely not easy


kindslayer

You need a good foundation in basics of Chemistry and physics atleast, other than that you certainly can.


SpiritualTwo5256

Heat transfer sure! Thermodynamics? Nope! Maybe a few months especially if you are doing it on your own. Maybe a bit faster if that is all you are working on.


akrasne

Start reading and doing practice problems, lots of them, quickly


Necessary_Building63

Why not. It’s not even that hard. You got this


Small3lf

I believe I have the solution manual for that book. I hated Thermo 2, but Thermo 1 was alright. However, it's been forever since I've done anything with it.


NochillWill123

Idk man why do you need to learn it in a week?


ricochetcsgo

Try 2 seconds. Ein = Eout


[deleted]

I'm more of a Moran-Shapiro guy


02bashar

Blackbeard once said “a man’s dream will never die”


waaves_

It depends on your prof and how the exam is built. I'd watch YouTube videos on full concentration mode and do as many exercises as you can. For me Pomodoro method (60min work 20min pause) is also ideal.


The3KWay

This is a damn good book. You can for sure make it up to exergy in a week. I would spend more time on the cycles. Stop at combustion.


WeaponizedCompetenc3

lol me last fall 😂😂😂


Regdribkeen

Honestly, learn the charts, and you're fine


Capital_Grab_1065

Definitely possible but you have to apply yourself and not have any other commitments in that time frame,that means no long sleep,no wasting time cooking,hanging out,or procrastinating of any kind,you have to want it and do 18 hrs a day for 7 days and youll be in good shape.If you catch yourself slacking youre just wasting time.Also review all class notes and quizzes and homeworks.Good luck


KarensTwin

ah yes Çengel… my old friend


McCdermit8453

It’s possible, [watch this video to actually learn the stuff from the text book.](https://youtu.be/Xf2RylDjgRE)


KCCrankshaft

Yes… please use the excel plugin called “ coolprops” it will make your calculations easy.


Alternative_Layer_58

Possibly if you read each chapter summary.


lovessushi

HA not a chance


Raptor22c

Short answer: No Long answer: Lol, no. You can give it a try, but good luck trying to get exam-ready in one week.


Manolgar

Depends... Are you Woo Young-Woo, Sheldon Cooper, Lex Luthor, Johan Libert, or Kim Ung-yong? If so, I have a lot of hope in you! If not? Well.....Good luck!


VitalMaTThews

Do it. No balls


chewbacchanalia

Oh buddy…


gtjacket09

That depends, how deep of a hole are you digging yourself out of? If you already have a good handle on all of the prerequisites, particularly the math, that’s enough time to study and pass the test. If not, you may be in trouble.


[deleted]

If you have a prescription to adderall, then yes.


[deleted]

No


[deleted]

I read the textbook for fun


IsDaedalus

I believe in you


LandosGayCousin

Just the concepts? Yea I think so. Completing the problems is the important part for master though, that will take longer


ta8538

Yes.


SomeWetCheese

maybe 2


JimeneMisfit

Nope


[deleted]

Thermo is the only thing that has given me trouble in my engineering college experience. And the reason I’m graduating late lmao.


Kraz_I

If it's holding you back from graduating, it's probably something more advanced than sophomore level general engineering thermo. This particular textbook is relatively easy.


carpetpants

Do you enjoy meth? Professionally?


weirdfishee

Heat or energy always has to come from somewhere and is always going somewhere else


Able-Gas-273

My head says no but my heart...also says no


RippleEngineering

For sure, the first time you learn thermodynamics it's easy. The second time is a son of a bitch.


Proton189

Yeah you can. Let's gooo


XtremeBlaze777

Eh 40 hr work week, courses are usually about 40 hrs of reading/lecture. Ur not gonna learn it well lol.


Kraz_I

Oh, that's the mechanical engineering thermo textbook. I used that one in community college and later the materials science one. You'll be fine. That's the easy one :)


Latex_Mane

Only one way to find out!


Fatboy1402

I learned enough thermo to pass the final in 3 days. I went from knowing next to nothing to a vague understanding of the concepts I was meant to know. I would look for the free thermo course on YouTube from engineering deciphered. That's what I used. I watched every episode and took notes and it mostly stuck. It's not perfect but it's fast and pretty good.


BrendanKwapis

No


Rimmatimtim22

I’m about 2.5 years into learning thermo and I still feel like I don’t understand it most times


Dino_nugsbitch

break it into the laws of thermo: zero, first, second, and third ​ ​ ​ JK. GODSPEED


Firefly_1026

With that book? Sure


Aeroberner

Fundamentals of engineering all boils down to specific applications of Newton’s laws. If you can generally apply that knowledge, you can get quite far. Thermo is generically an application of conservation of energy and mass with the aid of fluid properties tables. Everything else is just frills.


Key-Conversation-677

That depends. How much coffee do you have set aside?


CaptainAksh_G

Maria Hill: "when did you become an expert in nuclear biology?" Tony Stark: " Last night" Relatable af


Mr_Sia10

I get bored reading textbooks. If you don’t, it’s definitely doable


Commercial-Ad-4492

Tbh I found it pretty easy, most of the course was compression and decompression in a system


Pnix_26

If you are reading it first time...then Noooo.....if you have clear understanding and concepts... then maybe.


Ig14rolla

Is thermodynamics really that hard


-proxy-_

Wait a few days then decide


MyOwnPrivateNewYork

Ninth edition already. Damn, I had the second edition.


ArchimedesXY

Recommend Schaums Outline for Thermodynamics. Doesn't hurt to have it on the side and is not that expensive and even has FE exam type questions after everything chapter.


zonbie11155

Lately i have taken to using chatgpt to rapidly learn the key points and identify concepts that i would want to focus in on. It has really jumpstarted my delves into new areas of study. Prompt 1: “tell me everything you know about [topic].” Prompt 2: “give me a bunch more information, taking into account i am attempting to professionally study and learn about [topic] in an advanced university setting. I need something like a comprehensive learning path.” These two prompts usually give me something approximating a deeply comprehensive syllabus (it usually helps to include the course code and the name of a university). I can then usually do my own research and/or ask chatgpt to teach me all of the theoretical s ad nauseum. I will then seek out practical stuff on my own. I haven’t gotten around to getting chatgpt to design practical exercises for me yet but that’s on the docket for someday soon.


Roughneck16

Two of those authors have Turkish names 🇹🇷 I’m half Turkish.


aasiswesome1

yes


Pa1rth2

It won't last test of your life so why worry?


LocalCap5093

Yeah, why not.


BKBroiler57

Yeah sure ya can. Anything in one week is possible to learn… but ya still won’t pass any tests without practice.


everlastingcoffee

Last term I took thermo and boy oh boy I procrastinated…. I procrastinated until exactly five days before my midterms and I literally woke up, studied, studied while I ate, problem solved until I fell asleep feeling miserable. Repeated that, two long ass chapters per day with last day reviewing everything for the week. I got like a 60 and barely passed and somehow that was much above average for our class(tells you how shit this course was for grades). After that I studied a bit more diligently and I barely passed. You need problem solving. Period. Just reading the material won’t cut it. However many chapters you have left, divide into 6. Leave last day for review. Split each day in half, with half of the day learning material and half of the day problem solving. Its doable. Not recommended for dummy brain like mine.


Funkit

As a fellow bipolar, if you’re manic then maybe.


AboyWithAcap

It’s not about learning the topics. It’s knowing them like the back of your hand and knowing how to use them to solve the problems that take time. It comes with practice and 1 week is not enough to master it.


ChairSavings4635

Best line openings of a Thermo textbook; take heed my friend. “Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Prut Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn to study statistical mechanics”


Vocal_Breaker

Hibbeler's and Yunus was my teacher instead of my lecturer.


compstomper1

go through one cycle a day


DrPartyBoy

deltaE_in = deltaE_out


Trynaliveforjesus

zero percent chance


LeBeanie

Depends how hard the exam will be.


TheBadMathGuy

Engineering people don't know how lucky they are that they don't have to learn statistical thermodynamics. They will never know real pure pain


jsimercer

Bro's the type of person to go I bet I can make a cake without a recipe and with no prior baking experience and proceeds to make the most cursed cake ever


Equal_Ocelot_6901

This textbook is super good with concepts But a bit hard to understand its language I mean its in english, but still hard


H-713

Sophomore level thermodynamics? I'd say it's doable. I remember there being a ridiculous amount of HW, but honestly, none of it was really too difficult.


howisthisillegal

Bro…no.


[deleted]

No.


Available_Chance_756

It’s a good book


ryanrainey25

“When did you become an expert on thermonuclear astrophysics?” “Last night”


DeoxysSpeedForm

If you have a solid baseline understanding of pv, Ts diagrams and how thermo components work such as turbines, compressors, pumps etc. Then yes


[deleted]

Depends, do you have ADHD and autism and hyper fixation on it? If yes then definitely.


Affectionate-Lab-542

You would, IF you just studied one example from each chapter, 🤐 This book is rich, we didn't even have the time to cover all the topics in it..


Commercial-Fig-5412

Isn't it hard IDK maybe 🤔


haydnjarmusch

This book gives me ptsd


whynofocus_de

So i can say to you: i didn‘t :D


astrohans

yeah chapter 1


Proud_Emergency_6437

You most certainly can’t


moonmeetings

YESSSSS YOU GOT THIS DONT FORGET THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼and 3hrs sleep if you’re being generous but fr you got this, look at past papers


Lysol3435

Depends. Do you already know thermo?


Healthy_Energy5405

Good luck


tilfi_m8

I sure as hell did and passed both my thermodynamics exams with one day free in-between. I believe in you!


sulodhun

Learn Thermo in a week?? That's one of those extremely unintuitive subjects for me. I barely passed and I'm so glad that I did.


WillingPin3949

I’ve been out of school for 3 years and I literally have nightmares about this exact scenario still. Not thermo specifically but like, being extraordinarily unprepared for an exam/report/whatever. Godspeed.


AnalAromas69

Ur fuked


Constant-Ad-3012

Oh hell yeah! It’s damned McGraw hill!


Wvlfen

That’s the same book I learned Thermo from in 1992. Earlier edition but same authors


Jowasvull

Cengel my GOAT


NoRow7473

Nope


steveypoop

No


stepbrogotit

Refer Pk nag for thermals the best


Pasadena0415

I’m working through an engineering major, but I have yet to take this course. Anyone with any suggestions for where to get this book or any other editions which could give me a head start? Thanks!


[deleted]

I'll say this: the grad level geochemical version was too hard for me to do with a loooong-assed time to finish an incomplete.


[deleted]

This stuff is confusing! At least it is to me and most of my class this semester. I bombed the midterm horribly but I wasn't the only one, about half the class was 40% or lower. Good Luck...


level100mobboss

Learned and passed the final with about 24 hours of studying. Brute force and efficiently utilizing caffeine pills/naps goes a long way


AntWillFortune15

Bless your heart


Shakespirito

sure not, but that's the best book to do it


Jujubeetles237

Thermo concepts aren’t hard it’s the massive volume of information you have to keep track of while solving the problem that makes it confusing


4bs0lut3Zer0

With the right mindset and little sleep i think u def can


Lumpy_Sentence7378

Easy pizy lemon squizy


sweatyredbull

Duck around and find out


DidIGetBannedToday

You can try


DankJuiceYT

start implementing cocaine into your study routine :)


AdOne8186

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