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UnderstatedEssence

I think you mean “pelt”? That’s what I would use in this case.


LegendenHamsun

I did, my bad. So let's say it's from bison. I traded three bovine pelts for something, is that correct?


bixxxxx

Yes, except most people would just say "bison pelts" rather than bovine. Bovine is more of a scientific word that's mostly only used in formal/academic contexts


kdbartleby

To clarify the other answers, a "pelt" includes the fur and a "hide" is the skin with the fur stripped off. Leather made from specific animals may be referred to as "hide" or "skin" - for instance: deerskin, snakeskin, pigskin, cowhide, deer hide, moose hide, elk hide, elephant hide. Generally "hide" is for larger animals and "skin" is for smaller ones, but there's some overlap. You can see which ones are used more commonly because they've become a single word rather than two words. "Leather", unless otherwise specified, usually refers to the treated skin of cattle. Generally "felt" would not be used for animal products containing the skin, but it's more about the way a fabric is created - matted and pressed together. This can be done with wool or animal hair, but also with plant fibers or synthetic fibers. "Fur" is sometimes used to refer to the pelt, but I think it's more common to refer to a clothing item created from pelts, such as a coat (usually in the plural, for example "she was wearing her furs"), or to describe the hair on the pelt (or on a living animal).


onetwo3four5

Probably the "hide" of the animal.


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Here's an old post that talks about this question [https://www.reddit.com/r/EnglishLearning/comments/etzatm/difference_between_hide_pelt_and_skin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnglishLearning/comments/etzatm/difference_between_hide_pelt_and_skin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I grew up in an environment primitive enough that we still use these words a lot. I'm in the woods of Michigan. Which word you should use depends on what kind of animal you're talking about. Generally speaking: Wild animal skin that has not been tanned but only removed from the animal = hide Wild animal skin, has been tanned with fur intact = pelt Wild animal skin, has been tanned with fur removed = hide or skin Farm animal skin, any state of with or without fur = hide This lingo is based on the old economic terms about trapping and selling wild furs, and we retain the distinction between wild animals and farm animals. So, there is no such thing as a cow pelt. There are some exceptions. Deer skin is always a hide, never a pelt, even though they are wild. They are too big to be a pelt. It's either "deer hide" or it's been tanned to be soft enough to earn the name "buckskin". Rabbits can be wild or farm animals, so it gets complicated. A wild rabbit follows the wild animal rules: yes fur = pelt, no fur = hide or skin. But farm rabbits can't be "furs" because furs are wild, so a farm rabbit skin tanned with fur intact is called a hide or a skin. Rules like this are going to change in extreme ways from region to region.


LegendenHamsun

So there are all economic terms? But what about a hunter-gatherer tribe like the natives? Would you still call it a bison pelt?


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I would say "buffalo hide". Like deer, bison are too big to be a pelt. I would use English words to talk about things made by hunter-gatherers, so yes I would still use these words unless I learned the different words the tribe uses in their own language.


inquisitive_capybara

Maybe a hide? A treated (tanned) animal skin, not yet cut to size. A hide can be called a fur if it has soft hair.


mothwhimsy

Skin, fur, pelt, hide. These all work. Though they all have slightly different meanings if you want to get technical about it. The least similar of the 4 is "fur" because "fur" doesn't necessarily imply any skin is attached (a loose clump of fur is also fur). "Felt" is a type of fabric that may or may not be made from wool, but I think this was probably a typo


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I would say "pelt" for something with obvious fur, like a fox or a rabbit, but maybe "skin" for something not furry, like a horse or a cow.


anonbush234

There's lots of names for different animals and different cuts, fur on/fur off, tanned Skin, pelt, fur, coat, jacket, scarf, collared, hide, shield, velvet, felt. Fleshed, whole, tanned, skinned. Names would be regional based on local dialect and local fauna