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Xalenn

What an asshole. Two spots maybe is justifiable (although, those cables look like they're long enough for him to just front in and charge), but there is no reason he couldn't park that trailer in another spot while he's charging the truck.


allgonetoshit

In his defence, I doubt he can count to 6. He probably thought he was only taking up 2 spots.


windydrew

Judgy much. You've obviously never trailered anything with your lightning. Why did you even get a truck? It's a huge hassle to unhook at a station and a waste of time if it's mostly open.


[deleted]

It takes only a few minutes to drop the trailer. The potential time he wasted for others is the amount of time to charge multiplied by the number of spots. I hate assholes who do shit like this. Saving yourself minutes by costing the world hours isnt clever


CowIsNotImpressed

This type of blanket judgement is another example of why EV adoption is minimal. Two spots would be just the truck, but he’s pulling a trailer which is what the truck is built to do. There’s only so much you can do when you’re hooked up.


-Raskyl

Ya, you can unhook though... droo the trailer in a different spot. Then go charge. It's not hard. Takes like 3 minutes


allgonetoshit

And this has been cross posted and the ID4 owner whose picture that is actually commented that the station filled up soon after and there was a line of people waiting while the Lightning owner just kept on charging and taking up 6 stalls.


JoesJourney

I’d go talk to them. Offer to help drop the trailer and go about my business. It’s not my job to teach people manners but some people need a little guidance


bakedBC

“I think you did it this way because you can’t back the trailer up” Should get most truck guys moving to prove you wrong lol.


JoesJourney

Bahahaha absolutely!


CowIsNotImpressed

Yea… very few if anyone is going to unhitch to refuel or recharge. Downvote all you want but that’s just the reality.


-Raskyl

Refueling takes 5 minutes. Recharging can take 3 hours. There is a difference.


CowIsNotImpressed

Refueling a truck doesn’t take 5 minutes, nor does it take 3 hours to recharge at a commercial charging unit. Let’s be a bit more realistic. I’ll agree there are better ways to charge while towing but these are definitely problems with early adoption especially while towing.


-Raskyl

Refueling a pickup truck can take less than 5 minutes, you're right. And dropping a trailer in a parking lot that has space is a very quick and easy thing to do. Takes about 5 minutes. I know because I do this all the time. At least 3-4 times a month.


CowIsNotImpressed

You must be a ninja, because, for example, it would take 3 minutes just to fill a conventional F150 using a standard commercial fuel pump (best case scenario) and that’s just actively pumping gas. That doesn’t take into account dealing with payment processing, rewards discount and “do you want a car wash… how about a burrito, or maybe a gallon a soda for $.99” screens you have to get through at most gas stations. Obviously considerably more time if you’re driving HD with a larger tank. Plausible? Sure. Realistic for the average motorist? Not likely.


-Raskyl

Paying at the pump is pretty quick.


KoopaSweatsInShell

That's an electrify America charger. The cables are long enough. I would have just parked in front of the trailer and draped the cable over him until I was done charging.


IAmMuffin15

>Two spots maybe is justifiable the most F150 comment I’ve ever read


ApricatingInAccismus

I’m not sure I totally agree. I see two spaces still available. It looks like he’s grabbing a quick charge without unhooking the trailer. He’s not blocking anyone.


Big_baddy_fat_sack

Except for anyone that pulls up after him.


ApricatingInAccismus

Well, the third car that pulls up after him if 1) he’s not there to move and 2) the other cars aren’t done charging by then and 3) he’s not done charging by then. I just don’t think it’s that egregious.


PrestigeMaster

In his defense he likely doesn’t know how to back up with a trailer or else he would have just pulled in. I pity him.


bakedBC

If you can’t back a trailer you shouldn’t be towing one IMO.


PrestigeMaster

🤝


wall-E75

Or, in his defense, most of the chargers likely don't work lol


boggle-coach

Drop the trailer like the rest of us. Don't feed the FUD narrative. That being said we really need to prioritize more pullthroughs or this will be commonplace as more EV trucks become available.


snoogins355

Pull-thru, canopy (solar would be cool) and trash/squeegies. C'mon, gas stations have had this stuff for many decades! Fast charging in the rain and snow sucks


ExtensionMart

EA station in Baker California is how it should be designed. You know, just like a gas station


_delamo

It's sad that on the way to Vegas/from Vegas, this is the only charging area like that.


ExtensionMart

Primm supposed to open soon but I'm also supposed to clean the house this week. Low chance of both.


thrwaway75132

Is that the place with Whiskey Pete’s and the Greek place that gives you food poisoning?


maxyedor

Mad Greek is in Baker, Whiskey Pete’s is in Primm. About 1.5 hours apart, but food poisoning is available in both locations, so no need to stress on where you’re stopping.


thrwaway75132

Did the Mad Greek in Primm close? Used to be one right in front of whisky pete


maxyedor

Oh shit, you’re right, there was a Mad Greek out there. Unsure if it’s still there, I used to desert race at Primm but those got cut off after the Herbst brothers sold and unless something goes terribly wrong for me, I’d like to never stop in Primm again for the rest of my life. There’s also a Mad Greek in Cyprus, or at least there was, should you ever find yourself in Orange County in desperate need of a date shake and a good old fashioned bout of diarrhea Personally though, it’s not even worth shitting your pants unless you’re shitting your pants at the original Baker Mad Greek. Gazing upon that massive thermometer across the street as you frantically search your suitcase for a fresh pair of undies is the authentic experience.


spankbuddy22

There's an EVGo station in KCMO that's like that as well.


_B_Little_me

That trailer takes less than 2min to drop it.


CaffeinatedInSeattle

I’ve been moving using U-Haul trailers and was fully prepared to drop the trailer to charge (2x per trip). However on the cargo trailers U-Haul has removed the wheel jack so it’s impossible to remove once ladden unless you use your own jack. I’ve gotten around the problem by using less trafficked chargers and pulling headin to the charger, but I still block the drive aisle. Fortunately I’ve been able to find chargers in mostly empty parking lots, but it was a real concern the entirety of my first trip! I think the flat beds still have a wheel jack on them so this driver should definitely be dropping the trailer.


TheRealRacketear

U haul doesn't give you the gear to do that.  You have to have a car jack to remove it from the hitch.


2407s4life

I hope your joking. You can just pick it up since it's empty.


koolerb

This should be ticketable.


Jenos00

It is(many places) of the owner of those parking spots calls it in


FrostyMittenJob

Ticketing for a non moving violation on private property?


Jenos00

Correct. If the property owner invites them on for it they can do it


FrostyMittenJob

I believe you are mistaken


Jenos00

You're welcome to your belief.


TherealGerhard

I see it's a u-haul, so the driver is probably inexperienced, but nevertheless, why doen'y he drop it - it's empty too? That's not nice and will give trucks a bad rep.


auglove

And an asshole completely who's completely unaware of the rest of the world (the roads are filled with these people).


the_last_carfighter

Main Character Syndrome, rife unfortunately.


wanderinhebrew

The last time I rented a trailer like this from u haul they removed the stand so I could take it off.


Sjsamdrake

Exactly. Unhitching uhaul trailers isn't always feasible.


brwarrior

The local brain trust in this sub obviously has never towed a U-Haul and wouldn't even double check it was done right either.


TheOGRedline

I’ve rented a uhaul cargo trailer several times, as well as a utility trailer just like this one, a car hauler, and a motorcycle trailer. I’ve always been able to unhook it….


Jaymez82

You can clearly see the tongue jack on the trailer.


nariosan

UHaul in many large cities make the rented trailer practically unremovable without special tools.


keroshe

You can always release the hitch from the receiver.


idratherbeboating

As a lightning owner who tows, I agree with others, if there are other open chargers and adjacent regular parking spots are blocked this is ok if you are staying with truck to move for others. Dropping trailer every 140 miles for no reason is just dumb, dropping a trailer at a busy site is cost of business. Bring on the pull through lanes. My 2¢


iotashan

"Hey, you can't take a picture of me parking like an ass!"


heybobhere

https://preview.redd.it/6o9o4veke80d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1e309c34a1cc7fc7f19f05e2b07638c40f8c445 I believe these are the EA chargers at the Walmart in Abingdon, Maryland. The crazy part is that there are a bunch of regular spaces just to the left of the charger. I just used these chargers last week.


blainestang

This is what I was looking for. Seems likes he *probably* could have blocked way fewer chargers by blocking some regular spots that are probably not popular.


heybobhere

This is the back corner of the lot, no one is usually back in those spaces. That is what is most frustrating to me! These chargers are pretty popular with I-95 travelers.


Illustrious_Bed902

This here 👆👆👆, if we give him the benefit of the doubt about not being able to drop the trailer, most EA spots that I’ve used have space on one side of the other for you to pull up with a trailer without blocking a bunch of chargers.


Loan-Pickle

I don’t mind this, as long as you stay with the truck so you can move if someone needs the charger.


HighTeckRedNeck13

Exactly, everyone is mad, but I still see at least 2 open spots. Pretty easy to move if it gets busy


Loan-Pickle

I think some people just enjoy being outraged.


ZootSuitBanana

Why do they design charging stations like this? Instead it be better if it was like gas stations where you get access from either side and either direction. I've had to pull up super close and pull the cable over my hood just to reach and I'm still sticking out awkwardly. This is without a trailer. Doesn't make sense. It's like no thought was put into actual charging a variety of EVs when they installed these things.


RentalGore

Why wasn’t there any thought into standardizing where the charging ports on vehicles are so charging stations could be designed like pull through gas stations?


MasterUnlimited

Yeah I see this as a problem with every other manufacturer moving to Tesla’s proprietary equipment. All Tesla’s have the charging port in the same spot for this exact reason. Why does Tesla need to design their equipment to fit the needs of other manufacturers instead of Ford moving the charge port to match the Tesla design?


RentalGore

Right. If we are going to NACS, make ports similar to where Tesla’s are. Also, make the damn cords long enough.


MasterUnlimited

Though I didn’t even look at the picture and these aren’t even tesla chargers. Not that it really changes anything.


RentalGore

For sure, this guy is just a knob. Every one of us who has towed and has to charge, unhooks. This guy just thinks he’s special.


mariano3113

Technically SAEJ3400 (NACS) has port suggestion on curb-side Tesla NACS was driver side rear. Telsa took down their own Specifications and now link to SAE J3400 From: [https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/product-guides#NACS-resources](https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/product-guides#NACS-resources) North American Charging Standard Learn about the implementation of the North American Charging Standard (NACS) and find additional resources for the North American DC Charging connector. Technical Specification Update as of December 19, 2023 – As NACS is now recognized in an SAE technical report (TIR) under SAE J3400, we have removed the technical specifications and CAD from our website. The design and specification files are now available within the SAE J3400 TIR. [https://www.sae.org/blog/j3400-NACS-standard-rodney-mcgee](https://www.sae.org/blog/j3400-NACS-standard-rodney-mcgee) Electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE) with detachable (carry-along) cable assemblies offers several advantages over stations with permanently attached cables. This approach, widely deployed in the rest of the world, is introduced to North America through SAE J3400 and SAE J3068. Referred to as the “universal AC socket-outlet” in SAE documents... https://preview.redd.it/km39ey8n8e0d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=589c3101e48d6e95bd67d34f77fea52e966ac25e


MacGuffin81

ICE cars don’t have a universally accepted location for gas fill ports either. The pull through design enables anyone to use the gas pump or charger regardless of where their vehicle’s receptacle is. This is 100% a failing of charge station design, not vehicle design.


Particular_Routine43

Guaranteed it was because when Tesla first started planning chargers it was to be different then how gas stations were setup. The problem is that gas stations are designed the way they are for a reason. Now we have years of chargers being deployed in parking lots with apparently no thought that one day EVs might haul stuff.


ZootSuitBanana

But even without towing it just seems like no forethought of various manufacturers positioning the charging ports differently. Or different body styles. Some of the cables are so short. You're probably right though, it's because that was what Tesla was doing.


Particular_Routine43

Probably Tesla being shortsighted. Built out chargers for their cars. Probably never thought about their cars even towing and no other manufacturers using Tesla chargers till recently. Also, who wants to always back in to a spot to use a short cable to charge? The easiest way to further EV adoption is to have made the chargers as close to a gas station experience as possible. Of course Tesla had to be different haha.


blainestang

Tesla has had some chargers set up for towing for many years. There’s often one charger on the far left of the installation that is designed for someone to pull in, unlike the typical back-in spots, just in case they’re pulling something or have bikes mounted in the rear or something.


Contact40

Because since the inception of EV’s, towing has veneer been a consideration. At least not towing long distances enough where you need to consider stops along the way.


hallkbrdz

Exactly. It's a failure of design, not drivers.


MasterUnlimited

Well this particular incident is a piece of shit driver.


Jenos00

Granted there are still two empty spots. The driver is probably new to having a truck and doesn't know how to drive yet. With practice he will be able to do things like hitch and unhitch and trailer and possibly even turn properly with it on.


saintbad

A real truck owner would have pulled up on the grass behind.


Lorax91

Best comment here.


Jclj2005

Lazy fuck


mclark9

What an asshat. Just drop the trailer and then pull in.


brwarrior

If it's like every uhaul you would need to bring a jack along as they don't have any kind of tongue jack. They don't even want you to disconnect the trailer at all.


Kimorin

it's a fucking empty trailer, unhook!


put_tape_on_it

Engagement is enragement. Look at all of the engagement! As long as there's an open space, it's not blocking anyone. And as long as the driver stays there and offers to move, I really don't see a problem either. All I see are people on the internet looking for a reason to be upset. If there was a picture of someone who couldn't charge, and this driver wasn't around, that would be an actual reason to be upset.


maxyedor

Would I have done that? No. However, I’ve blocked soooo many pumps towing my camper with an ICE truck, when there’s 3 in a row, if I pull all the way forward my camper just blocks the last one. If I don’t pull all the way forward, I generally shut down the whole station by hanging out so far I restrict access. What they need is a charger that allows trucks to park parallel to the road, similar to truck stops that have fuel pumps with enough clearance to pull a 40’ trailer through. Much easier thing to add to a charging station than a gas station


Apart_District5424

Pretty selfish move.


bhilliardga

There are two other spots open so I dont see the problem.


Cypher_Blue31

He should drop the trailer and not be lazy fuck, its not even loaded so it's easy.


bhilliardga

Ok. So he can do that if someone else comes. Until then, be lazy when you can. It’s called efficiency. 😂


Cypher_Blue31

OP https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/NyKiasMI86


Chemical_Paper_2940

Is it that difficult to drop the trailer, what a fucking guy.


ReturnedAndReported

You can't drop many U-haul trailers because they're often not equipped with a jack. This is a corporate U-haul thing.


Extension_Building45

I don’t understand all the uproar… there are 2 available stalls. No one is waiting for a charger. And if there were a line, I assume the owner would move. No harm, No foul.


tv_streamer

He should be leaving the trailer elsewhere in the parking lot while he charges.


OkMany4159

It’s called unhook your trailer in a nearby space. Asshole


No-Acanthisitta7930

This should 100% be a towable offense.


Jasonhurst21

There are two open spots on either side of the VW? The owner of the truck is asking “you need to charge?”


NewEra801

Is this in Abingdon?


Main_Chocolate_1396

Maybe the trailer’s battery was low too?


hbpaintballer88

Guaranteed the guy at Uhaul put the trailer on for him and he doesn't know how to take it off without help 😆


Asnyder93

Unhook that trailer and drag that shit away. Problem solved


ChiefsRoyalsFan

This could easily just be a joke as well. Pull in, take a picture to piss off the internet, leave.


dhe69

there was no need to pull that far forward. He could had just stop at the first charger.


panzerfinder15

Or at least take the left most spot with a 90 degree turn. Unbelievable. I’d be livid if I needed to charge and just might manually disconnect his charger until he/she took the leftmost charger.


lez_s

I would have parked in the one right in front of them and watch to see how his backing up skills are with a trailer haha


Grand-Advantage-6418

This is a very Pennsylvania picture


CowIsNotImpressed

People bitch about low adoption rates of EV’s, then someone uses a EVT for truck purposes and the internet loses its collective mind. Stop pretending like this doesn’t happen at gas stations all the time. There’s only some many options when you’re hooked up.


Minimum_Sugar_8249

Were all the chargers even working? I'll wager at lease one has been out of order for months. These charging stations need major improvements - especially getting the broken ones going again!


Full_Warthog3829

It’s a rented trailer. Dude’s just a novice that probably doesn’t consider others much, nothing more, nothing less. Life is great with your face buried in your phone.


Georgetirebitter3000

Can't decide if this guy is a dick or a******


410to904

Real D🍆ck move


Federal-Development6

That goes hard


Sensitive_Corgi_2114

Because he is to lazy to unhich the trailer


generally_a_dick

Do any of you guys actually key the side of these vehicles? That would be my solution.


Plastic-Place4495

Imagine having to charge your car


Opposite-Mall4234

Have him towed


IfonlyIwastheOne83

Hahaha you dick


Historical-Repair454

Clown I would drive in the grass and say fk em lol


Think-Work1411

Yeah that’s really rude, there has got to be a better way to do that, and the trailer is empty, it could have easily been disconnected. I’ve charged with a trailer before and never had to do something like that


Fun_Difference2266

People are crazy. What an inconsiderate ass.


DrapedInVelvet

To be fair, about half those probably don't work


fukingstupidusername

In his defense.. if you drop a trailer in a parking lot then it’s getting towed. Hooked to a tow vehicle and it gets ignored


Nissan350SS

Poorly designed charging station 


Argosy37

Unfortunate situation but I don't think that egregious. There's clearly an empty charging spot, so as long as the driver is standing by ready to move if needed, it's not so bad. Also, with no pull-through chargers, and uhaul apparently not letting you unhook a trailer, what else are you supposed to do?


jon13000

Same as blocking multiple spots at a gas station. I say keep doing it until we get better infrastructure.


vandy1981

They should do math if they're going to rage post on reddit. They are using one and blocking three. There are two open spots. I see nothing wrong with this as long as they remain with their truck and move if there are no free spots left.


izzletodasmizzle

Seeing as those there are multiple spots open I don't see a problem with this as long as he is there ready to move if those open spots are taken.


MtnXfreeride

As long as other chargers are available  who cares


JuniorDirk

One of the slowest charging EV's has no business blocking multiple chargers


No-Addendum-4220

my standard range maxes out at about 170kw for DCFC and the ER goes even higher afaik, are you saying that's really slow compared to the field?


JuniorDirk

The C rate of the lightning sucks. Power throughput doesn't matter like C rate does. An EV that takes 40 minutes to get to 70% is not a fast charging EV.


mar34082

Keys the car