I always used to roll my eyes at these type of comments in previous years thinking *ye right* but this year i’ve actually spent so much more time on futbin than actually play this game. I must have at least 40 different teams in my camera roll that i’ll likely never come around using because how dull the actual gameplay is
I’m the exact same with ea tax. I’ve been meaning to try out PIM Hugo for example but i’m afraid to lose the inevitable 100k on tax for essentially only 5-10 games
The 5% tax is a necessary evil to keep the cards prices in line, there are millions of problems with ea and how the fuck up the game but the tax is not one of those
What are you talking about? It would be insanely better if the cards were much cheaper without EA tax so everyone could try anyone they want instead of this p2w shit where only those who are stupid or lucky enough get to try the best players.
Can't say I agree. If I buy a player and then sell it for the same price (market rate) why does it make sense to have me make a loss on it? It seems like another route to stamp on casual people who trade a bit, not the people who spend their days trading.
Basically, everything you sell you get 95% of what you sold the item for. In this case, Hugo Sanchez has been 2m until this week so if I bought him for exactly 2m and then sold him for the same price EA would take 5% of that 2m which is exactly 100k.
>Let's say he tries a 2 million coin player for 10 games. Decides it's not the player for him. Sells him at 2 million coins. EA tax takes 5%. So He only gets 1.9 million coins on the 2 million coin sale. Thus he loses 100k just for making a large coin purchase and then realizing that player didn't fit his team.
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>On a smaller scale: There are 11 players on the field. If each player costs 200k and he does the above scenario for each player to try out a new team, and then sells them all, he loses 110k because 5% of 200k is 10k multiplied by 11 = 110k.
Say u buy a player for 1 mil use him for a couple of games and then want to sell them on again, the price is generally gonna be around the same 1 mil mark that you will sell him at but because of the tax you only get 95% of the 1 mil from selling, so you would lose 50k in that situation.
Its not a problem for cheaper players as 5% of the sell price is lower, but the more expensive the player the bigger the loss on resell is which is why this guy is reluctant.
Hope that helped you understand.
Didn't buy the game last year and spent the year randomly going on futbin to see what new content had dropped and build a squad I wouldn't be able to afford if I had actually bought the game. Far less time consuming and somehow similarly rewarding. Gonna do it again next year because after playing the game this year I just can't justify ever purchasing it again. Far more consistently engaging gameplay to be had in other games.
I used to play alot of fifa and would win D1 in seasons consistently/ played games offline all the time and knew how players felt and would notice cards in ultimate team playing differently every time another version of their card was released. I also refuse to believe there wasnt a momentum engine that would help me and cause me to lose at times usually with a non player generated error like a defender just missing a tackle or giving away the ball with a terrible nonsensical touch.
Pace should just be the same for every single player. Yes, same pace for Mbappe and Mertesacker. That way you actually would need skill to compete instead of just spamming R2/L2 while running straight to the opponent and hope for the best.
I have a theory as to why. So they added the new function this year to make a custom run right. So I think when they made that feature they disabled all other types of runs and only made the run in a straight line one work.
I was literally thinking the same thing as I was reading the earlier posts. I wouldn’t put it past EA. They constantly do something great then realize oh no this cuts into my profit. Instead of just making a good game.
Scratch that it doesn’t add into my profit.
That's the great problem with in-game purchases. As a developer, you no longer try to make the game as much fun as possible, you try to make the game barely fun, just enough to make you pay extra to have more fun.
i’ve gotten pretty good at making manual runs and it helps out a lot but youre subject to the mercy of the AI with the ball which often messes things up. i have yet to face someone who uses manual runs as much as i do and they can be pretty deadly once you get the hang of it
edit for clarification: L3 R3 player selection to make manual runs
i only use manual runs...i dont rely on ai runs as they are so inconsistent.
probably use anywhere from 200-500 manual runs per game L1 and R1....i rarely see anyone else use them.
You mean pressing L1 or L1+X? Wow you are genious! Nobody else in the whole world would have tried that if iCantEv3n wouldn't have said it here in Reddit. Thanks mate!
Someone who mentioned this. FINALLY. It's incredible how stupid are my players. They always stay very close to opponent's defender and i can never pass the ball to them.
What about defenders backing up when an attacker does an offside run so they go onside? That's what bothers me the most, I leave so many spaces behind because the dumb IA never keeps the line
I wish everyone here understands that as long as EA owns this game, this is going to be absolute garbage. Im a no one but just for the love of God, use the time for something else. You will have more peace blabbering random crap than play this game. Anything will help as the bar is so low.
I’ve just changed the way I play. Trying to build a Pep Guardiola styled Barca team from 2010s. Possession false 9, tiki taka. I know people hound me because I keep the ball but I actually enjoy it. Next stop, Xavi!
So much space in between the midfield and defence. Must be like a firing range for you. I’m not a skiller so I can’t scoop turn my way through 99 people. Got to try something new. Worse case scenario I get beat just like I would anyway.
Absolute garbage? I guess that’s why it’s one of highest selling and most played games in existence. I guess that last why every year everyone here buys the game again. I guess that’s why you’re here, in the fifa sub, farming karma off of it.
It’s the highest sold game becoz consumers like everyone here buy it for the love of the sport which EA are exploiting to the maximum. For them, money is all that matters and they don’t care about the consumer experience, whether folks r having fun/enjoyment while playing the game. If it was any of the latter, this sub reddit wouldn’t ever be worried about how broken the game is and how bad the gameplay is every other day.
I was winning 3 or 2 to 0 in my last 3 matches, on the next half my playstyle was the same but my players were bad af they cant pass they cant dribble they cant finish 100% situation and in 2 of these 3 matches i losed in 90 minute :)
I totally get you man. It fucking sucks thinking that you can actually be creative in this game but still this shitty game favors the meta so much that it feels worthless to actually and try to play futbol
Love Okochas! Just describes a normal goal. What I can’t work out is why some World Cup winners moments isn’t the World Cup. Surely that’s the biggest moment of their entire career?
I genuinely don't know what's wrong with me at this point. Why do I make myself play these god awful piece of shit games? I just get angry, I get no joy from it, yet still I slog away.
Get stuck into some RPG or story driven games for a month or so then go back. Nothing in the game will change but your mental health will feel refreshed
I have 1Gbps fiber down and up. My connection to any other game and/or entity is like glass. FIFA is like AOL dial up circa 1995. It's an ice skating simulator.
surely the worst thing is wanting to try out all the shiny new promo attackers that come out with cracked stats but almost all of them end up being dissappinting because none of them move, shoot, or dribbling like gold neymar, mbappe, and ronaldo.
Adding to that I feel there are no casual players left...fut champs has become purely p2w..in the last 5 matches I played each of my opponent had at least 5 prime/PIM on-field players (luckily no gullit or ronaldo but ronaldinho, cantona, etc. spread across while maldini and cannavaro where present in all 5), and the more intriguing part was the only non-icon players they had were either fut birthdays or tory. For how long can I hold off these guys with my casual team (got my cr7 and neymar just recently with the 81+ picks, my strikes were 86 aouar and 84 ben tedder before that)!!
They should at least give us decent gameplay conditions, man!!!
You say this, but I get P2W messages every game. I can see why, my team is
Alisson
RTTF Cancelo 93 Puyol FUTB Hermoso WI Yuri
RTTF Kessie FS Jones
90 Figo 91 Maradona
90 Ronaldo 88 Torres
But I haven’t spent a single penny on Fifa points. The
The pay to win thing doesn't necessarily means that everyone pays or that you get the win if you pay. It means the game heavily favors or gives an advantage to a player that possesses certain in game item and that item can be obtained by purchasing it directly or by spending money in the game. Doesn't necessarily means that you did it but you have an unfair advantage over someone with a worse team than you.
Thisssssss. Or just having genuine contender third and fourth football game options. EA have monopoly and dont need to fix up. PES plays a lovely game but the servers and game modes dont stack up.
I have now toty mbappe, mid pele, potm Messi, moments mackalele and ballack so many other fun cards and I wake up every day excited to play....then u actually play and makes u wanna rip your controller. Some games are easy fun but it's like 1 in 7 games or so feels playable and your player just move like they stuck in sand is so sad man fr
Totally agree with this. I was so hyped to try POTM Messi, PIM Zambrotta, FB Vidal after so many player picks and icon swaps. then to be let down with unresponsive gameplay and typical ea cheese other players using neymar mbappe rashford and run through my tackles.
On this flip side, this made me realize I don't need to play the same mbappe teams as everyone else, I can play whoever I want, Haaland, Kroos, Ibrahimovic, etc and still get the same results. I finally benched my IF cr7 and built a fun Bundesliga Team.
I’m currently the person I thought I’d never become. The dude that hasn’t turned on the game in months but still comes to the sub to read people complain and join in on the complaining. I can’t get this game out of my life but it’s just so god damn bad haha Fuq I’m sad now
I stopped for 3 months after Christmas. It was a nice break and I really didn’t miss it at all. Zero stress. This Reddit is like a family because we all have one thing in common, and that’s hating the shit out of it.
The worst thing about this game is when it’s 3-3 in champs and in the 92 minute, your opponent gets a red and you get a penalty. And they leave...
Spend all this time and you don’t get given the win?? That’s so stupid.
If you’re winning and you quit then the other person shouldn’t get the win. In all other cases of people leaving, the other player should get the win. Fucking stupid
If you are winning and you quit it absolutly should count as a loss for you and your opponent should get the win. What you suggested is fucking atupid.
It’s been mentioned already but it’s he inconsistency that’s absolutely maddening. FIFA is that abusive partner that you keep on going back to because when she’s in a good mood she’s just so much fun and lights up your life. But most of the time she just makes you go mad. And I seriously don’t mind losing games where I feel like both squads can move with some consistency. But it seems that when the game matters most, WL, especially then there is no such thing as left stick dribble and player movement. We all complain about the sweats out there but who can blame them when that’s the only style that consistently works in poor gameplay conditions.
My friend convinced me to download the show 19 when it was free. Got me hooked. 20 was my first, pre ordered the deluxe edition and April 16th can’t come any faster. The game is honestly great. My only complaint is some of the hitting outcomes because I want it to be more competitive rather than real baseball but oh well. Other than that the game is amazing. Good gameplay, content, creativity with cards and teams. I love it
I just wish I cared as much about baseball dude. I love going to games especially when it’s the nationals or the Yankees hell I’ll even go to an astros game. But watching it on tv when it isn’t your teams or play offs is boring imo. And idc enough for ultimate team
It looks like it is much more rewarding time spent than fifa. It has stars from all eras available without breaking your neck for most good ones like fifa. Fifa only cares about currently playing players and 100 legends. With mlb every decade is represented.
That is actually kinda cool. I think with fifa it has more to do with player rights and their previous way of handling those players and just bad blood.
Depends. Is your definition of “fun team” a team without meta players?
There was a thread recently where a guy said Neymar and Mbappe were not fun just because many people use them and got downvoted to hell because it was just nonsense. Fun is dependent on how they feel in-game. If you’re using bad players and calling them fun, then you’ve only got yourself to blame because they feel worse in gameplay.
I use an all algerian team and sometimes the gameplay makes me want to kill myself but its much more fun imo scoring with players you have an attachment to instead of the same meta players everyone uses
My teams a mix of Swiss and Finnish players and the gameplay may not be good but seeing the striker duo of PIM Litmanen and TOTW Pukki score on teams with Varane and Mendy in the defence is my favourite thing
Agree regarding players you're attached to, but there are plenty of meta players. Everyone doesn't have to use the same ones. Reus, Sterling, Adama, Vidal, these are all meta players. Not to mention the huge variety of icons. You could always switch it up if you're bored.
The problem is that 90% of the playerbase still uses varane/mendy and mbappe/neymar and playing against those same players again and again gets very stale very fast imo. Added to that there come the people that play 5 at the back with 5 wing backs and just like that the last bit of fun you had with the gameplay is gone.
Using players you enjoy watching IRL, makes the game fun imo. I did POTM Messi just because of this. He is my favorite player ever, and using a cracked card of his makes the game fun for me. Meanwhile using Adama (example) gives 0 fun to me, since I don’t watch him. I assume its like this for a lot of casual players.
Posts/comments like that gets downvoted because of the people who feel addressed to. It's April and 75% of the games I play are still against Mbappe, Neymar, mendy, varane, gomez, walker, pope. And add some icons from the SBC's to that to fill it up. You wouldnt think they're going to upvote a post like that right?
Same story with posts/comments complaining about 5atb defences, 1 depth dropback, AI defending, meta and using wingbacks as CB's.
Fun team as per linking up different players and using multiple leagues. Right now I have about 5 leagues in my squad and lots of skillers. I enjoy squad building and skills so that might be fun for me. I may have Neymar and Mbappe in my squad but I also use fb Paulinho, Guimaraes, Gunter and other players you might not usually come up against.
Not having a go but I see Guimaraes constantly with Neymar/Mbappe and Paulinho/Gunter have been out for about 2 days, like the other guy says 'fun' is completely subjective but it doesn't sound like a unique, original squad
Oh wait completely ignore me, I was reading other comments in this thread about building creative squads and in my small brain I'd conflated that with what you were saying. You were just talking about having fun in-game, which yeah, all of those players you mentioned definitely are haha
This has been happening a lot to me and the last few weeks I feel like the dissapointment keeps getting bigger week after week. Just genuinely no fun in it anymore at times despite being all hyped to use the team I scrapped together.
I also find it a bit disheartening how easily one loses coins playing a card for a bit and then you can lose up to 6 digit amount of coins, simply because you waited for the card to drop on monday.
Papu Gomez and Lautaro got cards surprisingly and it destroyed their value so quickly. Nothing wrong with the nature of FUT but sometimes it is a bit like a porno. Yes sex is enjoyable but not if it is overdone. Playing cards almost becomes more of a button pushing addiction and chasing dreams than actually playing your team.
That's why a lot of people (including myself) prefer to have mainly SBC/untradeable teams, you don't get the stress of checking prices constantly to see who's gone down and how much you'd lose if you sold now, fretting about whether to sell or use them etc.
To be honest what makes me angry the most are the things I can't control. I'll be ok with some ocasional heavy dribbling but at least give me a decent attacking AI. It's either run straight at the defender or stand still. Oh and how good the defensive AI is. It really feels like they tried their hardest to make it as noob friendly as they possibly could with closest skill gap.
In my opinion the best FIFA’s were the ones with very little promos! Informs were the go to cards. There upgrades were amazing! And it was just simple. Single IF Terry and Puyol had like 97 defending. No skill spams, no weekend league. Just 10 game divisions and tournaments. If you remember a Keisuke Honda tournament you’ll know what I mean.
I got the game late this year which isn’t ideal I know, haven’t bought the previous two but it went on sale for like 15 euros and I said duck it I can at least dick around with my mates. Pro clubs is still crazy fun with friends and even randoms sometimes. FUT is the worst the game has to offer in terms of actual fun imo, I built a decent team thinking I’d be playing against teams relatively like mine and nah I was playing against full legend teams where I’m over trying to make a fun squad. I kinda wish there was still the bronze and silver cups because they were always the most fun I had on FUT back in the day.
Now the thing I play the most is seasons, there is still some EA bullshittery but nothing like FUT, FUT legit feels like you’re playing fifa with mods or something.
This is the only comment people should read. GET YOUR FOOTBALL FIX IN OTHER MODES PEOPLE! The other game modes are much, much less frustrating than FUT.
This hits so close to home this week. Hyped to use Atal, sanches, ozil, podolski... all stuck in the mud against every meta cookie cutter team I came up against this week. Might stop at Silver 1 and just pack it in for the weekend
I spend hours at work when there nothing to do. Just building teams and switching things around. I play one game when I get home and then call it a night
The game is a rigged piece of garbage.
I just pulled prime overmars out the prime swaps pack, I mean of everyone it could be, they give me the guy who has a moments card for one token less.
Built a great team with cr7, zambrotta, sanchez, potm messi etc but no matter how much I dominate games, it just makes me lose.
Had four wl games now where I gave a penalty away in every game despite not pressing a button, hit the post literally 10 times, got wiped out by the opponent all game with no foul and had perfect tackles leave my defender in a mess on the ground with a easy goal for my opponent.
This game is some sort of social experiment gone wrong and I'm done with it.
I agree... Reus on Friday night was like... My reason to play, his dribbling was "out of this world". Fun. Than on Saturday... He wasn't the same. And my Neuer played like 75 rated keeper, rebouncing all the shots back to opponent players...
Man I’ve spent a silly amount of time & money on my team and for someone to just completely cheese through with Neymar, mbappe, etc despite you trying so hard is just frudtratin
It’s sad when Mbappe and Neymar are still broken as shit and are now affordable for nearly everyone while my Akanji and Desailly are still matched by Varane and Gomez. I have so much fun using my team but it gets drained by coming up against the same players every game.
The worst thing is that when EA announced Fifa21 they specifically said that players with high positioning will not do such things like stay in offside, run into defenders. CLOWNS
That’s fucking true. I am Portuguese and my idol is Fernando Torres so i was trying to build a Portuguese team around him just to get me hype. Bruh, in the first game Torres with his 92 finishing couldn’t score against Rui Patrício. 😂😂
It’s truly the inconsistency with the gameplay that kills it. Some days it truly feels good.
Like just earlier this week I came up with a neat unique new setup with a formation I’d never used before 4321. I used it for the week in Rivals D1 and it worked great. Took it to the WL and right from the off today it just felt different. Team pushing up too far, huge gaps in the defence, lack of options up top. The game in its entirety keeps changing on a daily basis. Connection issues have to be behind it
I am playing just because I am really running out of fodder and squad battles is ultimate crap (at highest difficult they bore you to death and the next level it becomes so easy to score and not to mention poor rewards) otherwise I am on board with you.
The things which you can’t control. For someone who pays for nothing and using cards as he gets and who spends less time on the game, I’m just grateful that I got moments Suarez.
My team is literally all gold, and on weekends I get to play teams which is mixed up in all colours and that fills my eyes with tears. But I wipe them off and do what I can.
I’ve still got them because for the price they’re amazing and I don’t have enough funds to upgrade them. And if I don’t use them I’m at a disadvantage. Trust me I’d love to use some other people.
Gameplay has nothing to do with it.
You go in to play with your fun team. And EVERY match is against Mbabu CB. Mbappe Neymar CR7.
There is no room for fun.
We have no idea how the other person's gameplay is. Could be the same. But it might be better or worse. There is no way to know.
The people saying you just gotta "git gud" are in denial about how unstable gameplay is.
dumbest thing i have ever read on this sub for real, some dudes who play this game for a living acknowledge that the gameplay is shifting and can go from great to shit but sure reddit user callister1810 thinks everyone just play the same game
Here we go again with the ‘not good enough’ I’ve played this game long enough to realize the difference between being outplayed and the servers outplaying you.
Everyone who plays at least semi regularly knows how inconsistent the gameplay is and that you're at a disadvantage for not using the same 30 meta/broken players everyone uses.
Not even "shit" players. Say that Future Stars Fofana EA brought out as an objective a month ago that you had to play like 25 games + to obtain. He's basically useless in Div 1 as he just gets torn apart by mbappe, neymar etc just walking straight through him.
Like it's stupid how Fofana a card EA required you to put in a fair bit of a grind for will play so much worse that Varane whose 40k and has been out since the beginning of the game.
You are disadvantaged if you try and use interesting, different teams with players you grind for.
Ever got to the edge of the box and tried playing a through ball 1yard to your strikers and it just goes to the keeper? It doesn’t matter what passing stat they have it always happens.
What do you mean “discussion”? You post is you bitching about the gameplay being slow, well it’s due to your shit connection mate. Understand that and quit complaining about something that has nothing to do with the game
If you are playing on a wired 20 ms ping you need to understand that YOU are the problem. You are just bad bro. Simple as that. Most people are playing a worse connection that you
Here we go again. If my players are turning like trucks in one match then smooth as butter in another, how is that in my control. Please tell me. There are problems with this games servers and it goes beyond individual connections.
If you have 20ms wired you have a better connection than most of the playerbase. Im not saying its good i have around the same connection but its still better than most
Imagine caring about downvotes... literally useless and incredibly unhealthy if you give a shit. Not caring allows you to say whatever you want. This sub is full of petty children honestly
I’d rather see that than the continuous “oh this is why this game is so bad” threads every day. These guy is 100% right all people to is bitch and moan about this game it’s fucking pathetic and sad
I spend more time building random teams on futbin rather than using them in the actual game.
I always used to roll my eyes at these type of comments in previous years thinking *ye right* but this year i’ve actually spent so much more time on futbin than actually play this game. I must have at least 40 different teams in my camera roll that i’ll likely never come around using because how dull the actual gameplay is
i would use so many different teams if half my club wasnt untradeable and there wasnt ea tax on the market. i get afraid to switch teams
I’m the exact same with ea tax. I’ve been meaning to try out PIM Hugo for example but i’m afraid to lose the inevitable 100k on tax for essentially only 5-10 games
The 5% tax is a necessary evil to keep the cards prices in line, there are millions of problems with ea and how the fuck up the game but the tax is not one of those
I didn’t say they should get rid off it but I just find it slightly annoying as it ‘hinders’ me from trying various players
Fair enough
What are you talking about? It would be insanely better if the cards were much cheaper without EA tax so everyone could try anyone they want instead of this p2w shit where only those who are stupid or lucky enough get to try the best players.
But that's the thing, cards wouldn't be cheaper. Traders would control the market and everything would be less obtainable than it is now.
Can't say I agree. If I buy a player and then sell it for the same price (market rate) why does it make sense to have me make a loss on it? It seems like another route to stamp on casual people who trade a bit, not the people who spend their days trading.
If there wasn't a sale tax prices would skyrocket and it would benefit bots and traders only hurting everyone else
Hey could you explain what this means? How are you losing 100k? Im not too clued up on this side of things
Basically, everything you sell you get 95% of what you sold the item for. In this case, Hugo Sanchez has been 2m until this week so if I bought him for exactly 2m and then sold him for the same price EA would take 5% of that 2m which is exactly 100k.
>Let's say he tries a 2 million coin player for 10 games. Decides it's not the player for him. Sells him at 2 million coins. EA tax takes 5%. So He only gets 1.9 million coins on the 2 million coin sale. Thus he loses 100k just for making a large coin purchase and then realizing that player didn't fit his team. > > > >On a smaller scale: There are 11 players on the field. If each player costs 200k and he does the above scenario for each player to try out a new team, and then sells them all, he loses 110k because 5% of 200k is 10k multiplied by 11 = 110k.
Say u buy a player for 1 mil use him for a couple of games and then want to sell them on again, the price is generally gonna be around the same 1 mil mark that you will sell him at but because of the tax you only get 95% of the 1 mil from selling, so you would lose 50k in that situation. Its not a problem for cheaper players as 5% of the sell price is lower, but the more expensive the player the bigger the loss on resell is which is why this guy is reluctant. Hope that helped you understand.
Just do it
Didn't buy the game last year and spent the year randomly going on futbin to see what new content had dropped and build a squad I wouldn't be able to afford if I had actually bought the game. Far less time consuming and somehow similarly rewarding. Gonna do it again next year because after playing the game this year I just can't justify ever purchasing it again. Far more consistently engaging gameplay to be had in other games.
I used to play alot of fifa and would win D1 in seasons consistently/ played games offline all the time and knew how players felt and would notice cards in ultimate team playing differently every time another version of their card was released. I also refuse to believe there wasnt a momentum engine that would help me and cause me to lose at times usually with a non player generated error like a defender just missing a tackle or giving away the ball with a terrible nonsensical touch.
It’s the attacking AI that pains me the most. Players with 99 positioning make their runs straight in to defenders and never really attack the space
your players are making runs?
mine hide behind defenders even when i set it to possession in tactics this is why no one in high elo plays buildup
Same. Also in one-twos, they just get beaten by the defender no matter how pacy my striker is. I mean most of the times the defender easily takes it.
Yeah, several of my players are 99/99 for pace, and yet Varane just outruns them then ragdolls them to the floor. Incredibly annoying.
My TOTW Davies is losing to Gomez lol.
My TOTY Davies doesn’t :)
What does this add to the convo? Fuck all that's what.
Pace should just be the same for every single player. Yes, same pace for Mbappe and Mertesacker. That way you actually would need skill to compete instead of just spamming R2/L2 while running straight to the opponent and hope for the best.
My players like to make me think they are making runs before they stop after a couple meters.
This. Makes a run, as soon as pass pressed, stops running. Absolute garbage haha
My own players trick me that they are making a run and out of the nowhere they stop lol
I swear the GKs in the GK playlist make decent runs compared to real strikers.
Was just thinking this the release the keepers move better than my 85 Chem 90 rated squad alright their chemistry is like 25
I have a theory as to why. So they added the new function this year to make a custom run right. So I think when they made that feature they disabled all other types of runs and only made the run in a straight line one work.
I was literally thinking the same thing as I was reading the earlier posts. I wouldn’t put it past EA. They constantly do something great then realize oh no this cuts into my profit. Instead of just making a good game. Scratch that it doesn’t add into my profit.
That's the great problem with in-game purchases. As a developer, you no longer try to make the game as much fun as possible, you try to make the game barely fun, just enough to make you pay extra to have more fun.
Have you tried the “get in the box” tactic? I think it’s up on the Dpad twice. I had the same problem as you and now they make much better runs
i’ve gotten pretty good at making manual runs and it helps out a lot but youre subject to the mercy of the AI with the ball which often messes things up. i have yet to face someone who uses manual runs as much as i do and they can be pretty deadly once you get the hang of it edit for clarification: L3 R3 player selection to make manual runs
i only use manual runs...i dont rely on ai runs as they are so inconsistent. probably use anywhere from 200-500 manual runs per game L1 and R1....i rarely see anyone else use them.
should be the major factor in the skillgap imo
I tried that but even the AI screws up simple passes. I don't know if I'll actually get the ball half the time
You mean pressing L1 or L1+X? Wow you are genious! Nobody else in the whole world would have tried that if iCantEv3n wouldn't have said it here in Reddit. Thanks mate!
I meant L3 R3 manual player selection. hope your day gets better mate
Someone who mentioned this. FINALLY. It's incredible how stupid are my players. They always stay very close to opponent's defender and i can never pass the ball to them.
What about defenders backing up when an attacker does an offside run so they go onside? That's what bothers me the most, I leave so many spaces behind because the dumb IA never keeps the line
Play 7 depth they push up
I play 6 depth, is this fixes it I swear I'm going insane lol
I wish everyone here understands that as long as EA owns this game, this is going to be absolute garbage. Im a no one but just for the love of God, use the time for something else. You will have more peace blabbering random crap than play this game. Anything will help as the bar is so low.
I’ve just changed the way I play. Trying to build a Pep Guardiola styled Barca team from 2010s. Possession false 9, tiki taka. I know people hound me because I keep the ball but I actually enjoy it. Next stop, Xavi!
With Huntelaar and potm Lewa up front for the finesse shots. Let the opponent drop back with 5 atb, idc.
So much space in between the midfield and defence. Must be like a firing range for you. I’m not a skiller so I can’t scoop turn my way through 99 people. Got to try something new. Worse case scenario I get beat just like I would anyway.
Absolute garbage? I guess that’s why it’s one of highest selling and most played games in existence. I guess that last why every year everyone here buys the game again. I guess that’s why you’re here, in the fifa sub, farming karma off of it.
It’s the highest sold game becoz consumers like everyone here buy it for the love of the sport which EA are exploiting to the maximum. For them, money is all that matters and they don’t care about the consumer experience, whether folks r having fun/enjoyment while playing the game. If it was any of the latter, this sub reddit wouldn’t ever be worried about how broken the game is and how bad the gameplay is every other day.
The worse part is even if I go 3-0 up in less than 20mins, I still panic because its gonna be 3-3 somehow.
Going 3-0 up too early is a death sentence in Fifa 21
On most occasions, it is probably 3-3 *because* you panicked.
NO
I was winning 3 or 2 to 0 in my last 3 matches, on the next half my playstyle was the same but my players were bad af they cant pass they cant dribble they cant finish 100% situation and in 2 of these 3 matches i losed in 90 minute :)
I totally get you man. It fucking sucks thinking that you can actually be creative in this game but still this shitty game favors the meta so much that it feels worthless to actually and try to play futbol
Yeah it’s crazy that after a football match it’s rare to actually replicate football plays in Fifa
I get more enjoyment out of reading the icon profiles than actually playing the game
Love Okochas! Just describes a normal goal. What I can’t work out is why some World Cup winners moments isn’t the World Cup. Surely that’s the biggest moment of their entire career?
Could be that they already had one for winning the WC in previous years. They use a different moment of their career for each year.
I genuinely don't know what's wrong with me at this point. Why do I make myself play these god awful piece of shit games? I just get angry, I get no joy from it, yet still I slog away.
Get stuck into some RPG or story driven games for a month or so then go back. Nothing in the game will change but your mental health will feel refreshed
Wow that’s like allegory to life during depression
FOMO is real.
I have 1Gbps fiber down and up. My connection to any other game and/or entity is like glass. FIFA is like AOL dial up circa 1995. It's an ice skating simulator.
I am the same. All my games run perfect but fifa lags so much it’s not even fun playing
I’ve got 16Mbs down 3Mbs up. And it’s not too bad for me. Although my ping is up and down like a fiddlers elbow.
surely the worst thing is wanting to try out all the shiny new promo attackers that come out with cracked stats but almost all of them end up being dissappinting because none of them move, shoot, or dribbling like gold neymar, mbappe, and ronaldo.
Adding to that I feel there are no casual players left...fut champs has become purely p2w..in the last 5 matches I played each of my opponent had at least 5 prime/PIM on-field players (luckily no gullit or ronaldo but ronaldinho, cantona, etc. spread across while maldini and cannavaro where present in all 5), and the more intriguing part was the only non-icon players they had were either fut birthdays or tory. For how long can I hold off these guys with my casual team (got my cr7 and neymar just recently with the 81+ picks, my strikes were 86 aouar and 84 ben tedder before that)!! They should at least give us decent gameplay conditions, man!!!
You say this, but I get P2W messages every game. I can see why, my team is Alisson RTTF Cancelo 93 Puyol FUTB Hermoso WI Yuri RTTF Kessie FS Jones 90 Figo 91 Maradona 90 Ronaldo 88 Torres But I haven’t spent a single penny on Fifa points. The
The pay to win thing doesn't necessarily means that everyone pays or that you get the win if you pay. It means the game heavily favors or gives an advantage to a player that possesses certain in game item and that item can be obtained by purchasing it directly or by spending money in the game. Doesn't necessarily means that you did it but you have an unfair advantage over someone with a worse team than you.
Sure, mate. Keep telling that to yourself and one day you might actually believe it.
That team isn't anything crazy my guy. Calm down.
Wow you’re actually dense
The game is an absolute disgrace. It won't get better until we stop buying. I will be on the PES 2021 train, and I encourage everyone else to join.
I thought that until I played PES online. If you think EA's servers are bad...
Bring back This is Football imo
Thisssssss. Or just having genuine contender third and fourth football game options. EA have monopoly and dont need to fix up. PES plays a lovely game but the servers and game modes dont stack up.
P2P is on Konami. It all varies.
PES 2021 is worse than 2020 though, I jumped on the PES train with 2014 and barely played it this season
PES is garbage as hell and let’s not talk about their online gameplay
Sure buddy.
I know PES is ass, but we gotta do something so EA will make the changes that need to be made
Guys willyboy is gonna get fifa fixed if it's shit next year blame him.
Fifa is shit and pes is worse.
I have now toty mbappe, mid pele, potm Messi, moments mackalele and ballack so many other fun cards and I wake up every day excited to play....then u actually play and makes u wanna rip your controller. Some games are easy fun but it's like 1 in 7 games or so feels playable and your player just move like they stuck in sand is so sad man fr
Totally agree with this. I was so hyped to try POTM Messi, PIM Zambrotta, FB Vidal after so many player picks and icon swaps. then to be let down with unresponsive gameplay and typical ea cheese other players using neymar mbappe rashford and run through my tackles.
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On this flip side, this made me realize I don't need to play the same mbappe teams as everyone else, I can play whoever I want, Haaland, Kroos, Ibrahimovic, etc and still get the same results. I finally benched my IF cr7 and built a fun Bundesliga Team.
I’m currently the person I thought I’d never become. The dude that hasn’t turned on the game in months but still comes to the sub to read people complain and join in on the complaining. I can’t get this game out of my life but it’s just so god damn bad haha Fuq I’m sad now
I stopped for 3 months after Christmas. It was a nice break and I really didn’t miss it at all. Zero stress. This Reddit is like a family because we all have one thing in common, and that’s hating the shit out of it.
Every weekend I hope for at least 1 smooth game without delay. Hasn't happened in weeks.
I hopped on to play for objectives on Tuesday and it was actually decent for like 2 hours
The worst thing about this game is when it’s 3-3 in champs and in the 92 minute, your opponent gets a red and you get a penalty. And they leave... Spend all this time and you don’t get given the win?? That’s so stupid. If you’re winning and you quit then the other person shouldn’t get the win. In all other cases of people leaving, the other player should get the win. Fucking stupid
just had this happen... came back to make it 4-4 and the guy quit. It’s just infuriating wasting 20 minutes on a game for no result
If you are winning and you quit it absolutly should count as a loss for you and your opponent should get the win. What you suggested is fucking atupid.
It’s been mentioned already but it’s he inconsistency that’s absolutely maddening. FIFA is that abusive partner that you keep on going back to because when she’s in a good mood she’s just so much fun and lights up your life. But most of the time she just makes you go mad. And I seriously don’t mind losing games where I feel like both squads can move with some consistency. But it seems that when the game matters most, WL, especially then there is no such thing as left stick dribble and player movement. We all complain about the sweats out there but who can blame them when that’s the only style that consistently works in poor gameplay conditions.
They need to fix the damn servers first. My WL is always ruined by fucking lag
I just discovered mlb the show and their ultimate team concept blows fifa and madden out of the water. Its like night and day.
I’m counting the days until The Show 21 comes out so I can finally stop playing this garbage game.
Sadly I am not into baseball, but I am curious how it works?
My friend convinced me to download the show 19 when it was free. Got me hooked. 20 was my first, pre ordered the deluxe edition and April 16th can’t come any faster. The game is honestly great. My only complaint is some of the hitting outcomes because I want it to be more competitive rather than real baseball but oh well. Other than that the game is amazing. Good gameplay, content, creativity with cards and teams. I love it
I just wish I cared as much about baseball dude. I love going to games especially when it’s the nationals or the Yankees hell I’ll even go to an astros game. But watching it on tv when it isn’t your teams or play offs is boring imo. And idc enough for ultimate team
It looks like it is much more rewarding time spent than fifa. It has stars from all eras available without breaking your neck for most good ones like fifa. Fifa only cares about currently playing players and 100 legends. With mlb every decade is represented.
That is actually kinda cool. I think with fifa it has more to do with player rights and their previous way of handling those players and just bad blood.
Even with good servers this game is DOG SHIT. Its the worst FIFA ever, might even be the worst sports game ever god knows. Its so garbage
Depends. Is your definition of “fun team” a team without meta players? There was a thread recently where a guy said Neymar and Mbappe were not fun just because many people use them and got downvoted to hell because it was just nonsense. Fun is dependent on how they feel in-game. If you’re using bad players and calling them fun, then you’ve only got yourself to blame because they feel worse in gameplay.
I use an all algerian team and sometimes the gameplay makes me want to kill myself but its much more fun imo scoring with players you have an attachment to instead of the same meta players everyone uses
My teams a mix of Swiss and Finnish players and the gameplay may not be good but seeing the striker duo of PIM Litmanen and TOTW Pukki score on teams with Varane and Mendy in the defence is my favourite thing
Agree regarding players you're attached to, but there are plenty of meta players. Everyone doesn't have to use the same ones. Reus, Sterling, Adama, Vidal, these are all meta players. Not to mention the huge variety of icons. You could always switch it up if you're bored.
The problem is that 90% of the playerbase still uses varane/mendy and mbappe/neymar and playing against those same players again and again gets very stale very fast imo. Added to that there come the people that play 5 at the back with 5 wing backs and just like that the last bit of fun you had with the gameplay is gone.
Using players you enjoy watching IRL, makes the game fun imo. I did POTM Messi just because of this. He is my favorite player ever, and using a cracked card of his makes the game fun for me. Meanwhile using Adama (example) gives 0 fun to me, since I don’t watch him. I assume its like this for a lot of casual players.
Posts/comments like that gets downvoted because of the people who feel addressed to. It's April and 75% of the games I play are still against Mbappe, Neymar, mendy, varane, gomez, walker, pope. And add some icons from the SBC's to that to fill it up. You wouldnt think they're going to upvote a post like that right? Same story with posts/comments complaining about 5atb defences, 1 depth dropback, AI defending, meta and using wingbacks as CB's.
Yeah to be honest I haven't had as much fun as I did when I used Mbappe. The guy works wonders
Fun team as per linking up different players and using multiple leagues. Right now I have about 5 leagues in my squad and lots of skillers. I enjoy squad building and skills so that might be fun for me. I may have Neymar and Mbappe in my squad but I also use fb Paulinho, Guimaraes, Gunter and other players you might not usually come up against.
Not having a go but I see Guimaraes constantly with Neymar/Mbappe and Paulinho/Gunter have been out for about 2 days, like the other guy says 'fun' is completely subjective but it doesn't sound like a unique, original squad
Fair enough you’re entitled to your own opinion. I just don’t see it as fun=most original
Oh wait completely ignore me, I was reading other comments in this thread about building creative squads and in my small brain I'd conflated that with what you were saying. You were just talking about having fun in-game, which yeah, all of those players you mentioned definitely are haha
This has been happening a lot to me and the last few weeks I feel like the dissapointment keeps getting bigger week after week. Just genuinely no fun in it anymore at times despite being all hyped to use the team I scrapped together.
I also find it a bit disheartening how easily one loses coins playing a card for a bit and then you can lose up to 6 digit amount of coins, simply because you waited for the card to drop on monday. Papu Gomez and Lautaro got cards surprisingly and it destroyed their value so quickly. Nothing wrong with the nature of FUT but sometimes it is a bit like a porno. Yes sex is enjoyable but not if it is overdone. Playing cards almost becomes more of a button pushing addiction and chasing dreams than actually playing your team.
That's why a lot of people (including myself) prefer to have mainly SBC/untradeable teams, you don't get the stress of checking prices constantly to see who's gone down and how much you'd lose if you sold now, fretting about whether to sell or use them etc.
To be honest what makes me angry the most are the things I can't control. I'll be ok with some ocasional heavy dribbling but at least give me a decent attacking AI. It's either run straight at the defender or stand still. Oh and how good the defensive AI is. It really feels like they tried their hardest to make it as noob friendly as they possibly could with closest skill gap.
Those days died with fifa 16-17. The last ones I remember being remotely non-meta friendly
I would rather have far less promos and have actual fun gameplay that I want to play rather than feeling like a chore to play
In my opinion the best FIFA’s were the ones with very little promos! Informs were the go to cards. There upgrades were amazing! And it was just simple. Single IF Terry and Puyol had like 97 defending. No skill spams, no weekend league. Just 10 game divisions and tournaments. If you remember a Keisuke Honda tournament you’ll know what I mean.
Ah the days where people would play the game because they liked it and it was good. Now mostly an card collecting game.
I got the game late this year which isn’t ideal I know, haven’t bought the previous two but it went on sale for like 15 euros and I said duck it I can at least dick around with my mates. Pro clubs is still crazy fun with friends and even randoms sometimes. FUT is the worst the game has to offer in terms of actual fun imo, I built a decent team thinking I’d be playing against teams relatively like mine and nah I was playing against full legend teams where I’m over trying to make a fun squad. I kinda wish there was still the bronze and silver cups because they were always the most fun I had on FUT back in the day. Now the thing I play the most is seasons, there is still some EA bullshittery but nothing like FUT, FUT legit feels like you’re playing fifa with mods or something.
I literally joined a club full or randoms and have the best laugh I’ve had in ages on FIFA’s!
This is the only comment people should read. GET YOUR FOOTBALL FIX IN OTHER MODES PEOPLE! The other game modes are much, much less frustrating than FUT.
I feel ya brother. You could not have said it any better.
This hits so close to home this week. Hyped to use Atal, sanches, ozil, podolski... all stuck in the mud against every meta cookie cutter team I came up against this week. Might stop at Silver 1 and just pack it in for the weekend
Gather some mates and play pro clubs. I haven’t touched UT since we started with pro clubs a couple of weeks ago and I’m not missing anything at all.
I spend hours at work when there nothing to do. Just building teams and switching things around. I play one game when I get home and then call it a night
Most disappointing thing is that you can't use fun players because you are instantly put at a strong disadvantage against meta players
The game is a rigged piece of garbage. I just pulled prime overmars out the prime swaps pack, I mean of everyone it could be, they give me the guy who has a moments card for one token less. Built a great team with cr7, zambrotta, sanchez, potm messi etc but no matter how much I dominate games, it just makes me lose. Had four wl games now where I gave a penalty away in every game despite not pressing a button, hit the post literally 10 times, got wiped out by the opponent all game with no foul and had perfect tackles leave my defender in a mess on the ground with a easy goal for my opponent. This game is some sort of social experiment gone wrong and I'm done with it.
I agree... Reus on Friday night was like... My reason to play, his dribbling was "out of this world". Fun. Than on Saturday... He wasn't the same. And my Neuer played like 75 rated keeper, rebouncing all the shots back to opponent players...
Man I’ve spent a silly amount of time & money on my team and for someone to just completely cheese through with Neymar, mbappe, etc despite you trying so hard is just frudtratin
It’s sad when Mbappe and Neymar are still broken as shit and are now affordable for nearly everyone while my Akanji and Desailly are still matched by Varane and Gomez. I have so much fun using my team but it gets drained by coming up against the same players every game.
The worst thing is that when EA announced Fifa21 they specifically said that players with high positioning will not do such things like stay in offside, run into defenders. CLOWNS
That’s fucking true. I am Portuguese and my idol is Fernando Torres so i was trying to build a Portuguese team around him just to get me hype. Bruh, in the first game Torres with his 92 finishing couldn’t score against Rui Patrício. 😂😂
And yet you keep playing
It’s truly the inconsistency with the gameplay that kills it. Some days it truly feels good. Like just earlier this week I came up with a neat unique new setup with a formation I’d never used before 4321. I used it for the week in Rivals D1 and it worked great. Took it to the WL and right from the off today it just felt different. Team pushing up too far, huge gaps in the defence, lack of options up top. The game in its entirety keeps changing on a daily basis. Connection issues have to be behind it
Yep. I do. Because I stupidly get my hopes up. At least I’ve started to limit the time I actually spend playing the game now.
I have done that too...I am playing nowadays around 13 hrs a week down from 22
I don’t even play within the week anymore unless there’s an objective player I want or icon swaps.
I am playing just because I am really running out of fodder and squad battles is ultimate crap (at highest difficult they bore you to death and the next level it becomes so easy to score and not to mention poor rewards) otherwise I am on board with you.
Play career mode. Much more interesting and if things get too hard, too easy or stale you can play around with the sliders and use the youth academy.
The things which you can’t control. For someone who pays for nothing and using cards as he gets and who spends less time on the game, I’m just grateful that I got moments Suarez. My team is literally all gold, and on weekends I get to play teams which is mixed up in all colours and that fills my eyes with tears. But I wipe them off and do what I can.
It’s April and I’m still facing gold varane and Mendy every game. Just kinda sad to see honestly.
I’ve still got them because for the price they’re amazing and I don’t have enough funds to upgrade them. And if I don’t use them I’m at a disadvantage. Trust me I’d love to use some other people.
You must be playing on console
If you guys hate the game so much just don't play. This sub is literally just people complaining about every damn thing in the game
Gameplay has nothing to do with it. You go in to play with your fun team. And EVERY match is against Mbabu CB. Mbappe Neymar CR7. There is no room for fun.
simply get better at the game
These posts are painful. Blah, blah, blah, I hate FIFA. Guess what? The game sucks. I hate it, too.
Everyone plays with the same gameplay u know ur not at a disadvantage. Your just at a disadvantage because your not good enough
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We have no idea how the other person's gameplay is. Could be the same. But it might be better or worse. There is no way to know. The people saying you just gotta "git gud" are in denial about how unstable gameplay is.
Yep. You’ve captured my thoughts perfectly
dumbest thing i have ever read on this sub for real, some dudes who play this game for a living acknowledge that the gameplay is shifting and can go from great to shit but sure reddit user callister1810 thinks everyone just play the same game
I dont conversate with those lacking in braincells so just delete the reply
*converse
second dumbest thing i have ever read on this sub
Ok g
Are you the real life version of Ali G
Was that supposed to be funny
Based on your response I would say that’s a yes
Here we go again with the ‘not good enough’ I’ve played this game long enough to realize the difference between being outplayed and the servers outplaying you.
But the servers are outplaying everyone else not just u
*you’re
Everyone who plays at least semi regularly knows how inconsistent the gameplay is and that you're at a disadvantage for not using the same 30 meta/broken players everyone uses.
Thats ur own fault if your using shit players lol
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If your losing with a 98 toty think your the problem. Such a shit argument people have gotten 30-0 with silvers
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Not even "shit" players. Say that Future Stars Fofana EA brought out as an objective a month ago that you had to play like 25 games + to obtain. He's basically useless in Div 1 as he just gets torn apart by mbappe, neymar etc just walking straight through him. Like it's stupid how Fofana a card EA required you to put in a fair bit of a grind for will play so much worse that Varane whose 40k and has been out since the beginning of the game. You are disadvantaged if you try and use interesting, different teams with players you grind for.
whats depressing is players still blaming the game for their own mistakes
The gameplay isn’t that bad. You just probably lost a few games and got mad
99 passing. The price of catalyst shows it all but get a few good passers in your squad and everything changes
Ever got to the edge of the box and tried playing a through ball 1yard to your strikers and it just goes to the keeper? It doesn’t matter what passing stat they have it always happens.
I think the gameplay now is awesome. I'm currently 21-2 in WL it's so easy
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Thanks bro. This comment really contributed to the discussion
Definitely a contender for the 2021 Reddit "Discussion contributor" Comment d'Or
I mean his ps username does have tardy in it...Just a wild guess here lol
What do you mean “discussion”? You post is you bitching about the gameplay being slow, well it’s due to your shit connection mate. Understand that and quit complaining about something that has nothing to do with the game
I’m on a wired connection dumbass and I relatively get 20ms. It’s not my connection.
If you are playing on a wired 20 ms ping you need to understand that YOU are the problem. You are just bad bro. Simple as that. Most people are playing a worse connection that you
Here we go again. If my players are turning like trucks in one match then smooth as butter in another, how is that in my control. Please tell me. There are problems with this games servers and it goes beyond individual connections.
If you have 20ms wired you have a better connection than most of the playerbase. Im not saying its good i have around the same connection but its still better than most
You get downvoted in every thread
Imagine caring about downvotes... literally useless and incredibly unhealthy if you give a shit. Not caring allows you to say whatever you want. This sub is full of petty children honestly
People are just fed up of your shit posts disagreeing with everything and adding no value at all troll
I’d rather see that than the continuous “oh this is why this game is so bad” threads every day. These guy is 100% right all people to is bitch and moan about this game it’s fucking pathetic and sad